The Invisible Postern Wall Glitch

Leeched · June 2018

Today when my group tried to defend Sej a whole EP guild abused this bug and just entered through the bugged postern wall - would be kinda nice if ZOS could finally acknowledge this issue...

Feanor · June 2018

I think that all of this broke when they changed the drawing calls for better performance. Some players have reported that this is attached to the drawing distance, and if you leave the boundary set for it and re-enter it, the Wall is drawn correctly again.

I sure hope they finally can fix this.

Darkmage1337 · June 2018

Still no acknowledgment or comment from the Devs... yet I reported several AD players for constantly abusing the postern door exploit on Shor earlier. I hope those players get a 3-day suspension. 3v9'd them for several hours, and yet they still need to crutch on abusing the exploit even though we were outnumbered 3 to 1, objective after objective.

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[edited for baiting]

frozywozy · June 2018

Just so you guys know, they are aware about it and there is a fix coming.

Feanor · June 2018

I hope this is it:

Fixed an issue that would occasionally cause the environment and buildings around you to temporarily vanish.

Xai_Zi · June 2018

It's adorable that some people think the people who abuse this bug are gonna get banned

Leeched · June 2018

Feanor wrote: »

I hope this is it:

Fixed an issue that would occasionally cause the environment and buildings around you to temporarily vanish.

Nope still not fixed (pic made today):

Agrippa_Invisus · June 2018

Rilis wrote: »

Feanor wrote: »

I hope this is it:

Fixed an issue that would occasionally cause the environment and buildings around you to temporarily vanish.

Nope still not fixed (pic made today):

This is quality codework and gamecrafting.

I'm impressed.

Kartalin · June 2018

I mean, I half expected it to be worse, i.e. door now missing too...

Slowbromance · June 2018

I created a forum account just to post here so maybe like, 1,001 players reporting this will garner attention. Please listen to us @ZOS_GinaBruno. There was no fix in the latest patch. You guys must be getting multiple reports of players abusing this bug, and the only interaction we've had with anyone from ZOS on this post so far was a mod deleting posts for naming and shaming. We just want to know when this will be fixed.

frozywozy · June 2018

Slowbromance wrote: »

I created a forum account just to post here so maybe like, 1,001 players reporting this will garner attention. Please listen to us @ZOS_GinaBruno. There was no fix in the latest patch. You guys must be getting multiple reports of players abusing this bug, and the only interaction we've had with anyone from ZOS on this post so far was a mod deleting posts for naming and shaming. We just want to know when this will be fixed.

Devs are already aware and working on a fix.

valeriiya · June 2018

frozywozy wrote: »

Slowbromance wrote: »

I created a forum account just to post here so maybe like, 1,001 players reporting this will garner attention. Please listen to us @ZOS_GinaBruno. There was no fix in the latest patch. You guys must be getting multiple reports of players abusing this bug, and the only interaction we've had with anyone from ZOS on this post so far was a mod deleting posts for naming and shaming. We just want to know when this will be fixed.

Devs are already aware and working on a fix.

They've been working on it for years and yet here we are

Slowbromance · June 2018

frozywozy wrote: »

Devs are already aware and working on a fix.

Did they acknowledge in another post?

frozywozy · June 2018

Slowbromance wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Devs are already aware and working on a fix.

Did they acknowledge in another post?

No I talk with them on a regular basis, trust me

frostz417 · June 2018

frozywozy wrote: »

Slowbromance wrote: »

I created a forum account just to post here so maybe like, 1,001 players reporting this will garner attention. Please listen to us @ZOS_GinaBruno. There was no fix in the latest patch. You guys must be getting multiple reports of players abusing this bug, and the only interaction we've had with anyone from ZOS on this post so far was a mod deleting posts for naming and shaming. We just want to know when this will be fixed.

Devs are already aware and working on a fix.

You guys on PC? Because I’ve also seen it happen on Xb1 I haven’t seen people take advantage of it however. I saw it while we were taking nickel, saw some walk through it but they all exited and sieged it properly

Slowbromance · June 2018

frostz417 wrote: »

You guys on PC? Because I’ve also seen it happen on Xb1 I haven’t seen people take advantage of it however. I saw it while we were taking nickel, saw some walk through it but they all exited and sieged it properly

Yah, we're PC NA.

Arthg · June 2018

I for one created a ticket on June 1st, with video evidence of the exploit on PC EU Sotha Sil.
I replied by mail after receiving the automatic response.
I also reported the players.

I have yet to hear from Customer Service (saying at least they're looking into it or something!).

[EDIT:] I have seen the exploit on several other occasions.

Talendear · June 2018

This is still happening, and people are losing these places because some people are not ignoring it. They see a hole, even with a door and just rush through. Whole raid just did it in Kyne. This is a major issue if anyone can walk up to an outpost and jump inside it when no one has taken that wall down. In case it helps, I only recall seeing it on the right side wall as you face into the outpost from the front door. I could be wrong, but that is the only side I recall seeing it on. Someone correct me if its been seen on the left side facing into the keep.

dtsharples · June 2018

Happens on both sides of Outposts for sure.
Was happening just last night on Vivec EU where a tonne of reds entered an 'intact' wall at Bleakers to flip a flag.

Anrose · June 2018

frozywozy wrote: »

Slowbromance wrote: »

I created a forum account just to post here so maybe like, 1,001 players reporting this will garner attention. Please listen to us @ZOS_GinaBruno. There was no fix in the latest patch. You guys must be getting multiple reports of players abusing this bug, and the only interaction we've had with anyone from ZOS on this post so far was a mod deleting posts for naming and shaming. We just want to know when this will be fixed.

Devs are already aware and working on a fix.

And I’ve got some beautiful oceanfront property in Craglorn that I’d love to sell you.

Delsskia · June 2018

I'd be willing to let the postern wall glitch stay in the game if I could weapon swap, have my skills go off when I actually press the buttons and it didn't take 15 minutes to get out of combat.

Delsskia · June 2018

Go Team !!!

frozywozy · June 2018

PetiteFire wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Slowbromance wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Devs are already aware and working on a fix.

Did they acknowledge in another post?

No I talk with them on a regular basis, trust me

I though that would be helpful to say that they are aware about it. Thanks for confirming that I should keep that information to myself next time. Have a good one!

Enkil · June 2018

This continues to be a problem and seems to occur more frequently at outposts. Hope we can get a fix soon.

dtsharples · June 2018

Still happening last night in Outposts, and in Fort postern walls.

olivesforge · June 2018

Sad to say, but I have full confidence in ZOS fixing this, however with hilarious unintended results.

Cyrodiil

The stonemasons of Cyrodiil have, in solidarity with their doormaker brethren, also gone on strike.
Players are no longer able to remain inside an Outpost or Keep.
Floors will be re-added in a future Patch.

Xai_Zi · June 2018

Since I haven't seen any dev say this is a bug, it must mean its intended. Dunno what the fuss is about.

EDIT: I'm sure I saw ol' Richie going through one of those intentional gaps while playing on his DC (because he totally plays on every faction) character last week.

Agrippa_Invisus · June 2018

I'd seriously like to see some sort of response to this. Even if it's just an 'aware of the problem' blurb. Just something to show that ZOS even knows about this.

DarthSylvus · June 2018

Happened again at Sej last night (PS4, NA)

Then again at Aleswell.

Then I screened 3 times on top of that.

We really need some help here, ZOS.

VaranisArano · June 2018

PC/NA Vivec, this morning.

EP was sieging Sejanus Outpost and as I ride up I see that the South postern wall is at 60%, but I can clearly see around the door through to the flags.

I lay down a ballista and help siege the postern wall down, because bypassing the need to siege down walls/doors to enter a keep is an exploit. (Nightblades ambushing into keeps or dragonknight leaping up walls are a similar exploit) Reference here:

Just a reminder that ZOS specifically addressed gap-closing into keeps as an exploit here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/278031/cyrodiil-cheating-exploiting-you/p1

I'll quote the relevant potion below:

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

[...]
To summarize, if you are using abilities such as gap closers to do things that are not within the realm of intended design and/or bypassing core game mechanics, such as entering keeps without downing doors and/or walls and getting under the environment (ground, water, etc.), you are exploiting. In short: don’t do it. If we catch you exploiting and/or cheating, even once, it is grounds for disciplinary action up to and including a permanent ban of your game account. If in doubt about whether or not certain actions or activity are considered exploiting, you are welcome to ask us here on the forums.

Thank you all for your cooperation in helping us keep ESO free of cheating and exploiting, and a fun, fair environment for all.

Unfortunately, about 5-10 of my fellow EP chose to exploit by rushing into the the Outpost. The wall was still above 15% when they started turning the flags, despite me yelling in chat not to exploit. (I checked that the front door was closed, but I also watched them walk in the poster before it was fully sieged down.)

One of them yelled back that it wasn't an exploit. As I pointed out above under the spoiler, yeah, ZOS requires us to siege down the walls. Bypassing the need to siege is an exploit.

I wanted to capture Sejanus, but not by cheating. ZOS, please fix this persistent bug ASAP.

In the meantime, have some honor and don't exploit.

Ticket # 180629-001327