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Would You Like to See NMA Updated To Give Imperfected Maelstrom Weapons
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AbysmalGhul✭✭✭✭✭
✭AbysmalGhul wrote: »Many times, people just want to play the content and feel satisfied with their level of skill. But when you are in that in betwen right now.. what happens is that you end up just not playing the game at all because you end up being made to feel utterly incompetent by the more elite players, whom, no matter what will always steamroll content.
Competent players became competent players because they practiced and surround themselves with like minded people. People don't start off as great out of the box. You have to put in effort and then that effort will eventually pay off in the end.
In the end, obtaining great gear will do nothing for if you can't overcome challenges and learn the nuances the game has to offer
Stated like a true Elitist.
Sometimes that single piece of gear or weapon, can be enough to help out someone who isn't as good as others and just wants to continue to do what they used to do prior to all the damn nerfs that are brought about because the Elitist 1% keep burning through content and ignoring mechanics in the chase for more and more DPS.
When you are disabled and left out because there is a 2k-5k dps measurement that you just can't broach on your own because you can't play the same way everyone else does, then yes, a piece of gear does indeed help. Why else do we have to chase gear in this game if it doesn't matter what you wear?? If that were the case, Min-Maxing wouldn't exist.
But yeah, it sucks being disabled and forced into a play style that doesn't hurt a lot every time I play. A style that unfortunately means I can only use 3 attack skills reliably, the other 2 on each bar are for buffs or shields or long dots, bar swapping is slow and attack weaving doesn't exist and any rotation I do has to be simplistic.
I'd really like to see how the Elite do playing with physical limitations and getting as far as I've gotten on my own in a lot of things WITHOUT using macros to do most of the work for them!! I think a lot of you would give up on it. But I refuse to!!!
So take your elitist attitude and shove it where the sun don't shine!!
I'm far from being an elitist and my statement wasn't an attack on you in anyway. Simply put, practice makes perfect is what I was leaning towards. Good on you for trying to make it work through your disabilities. I personally know from experience how tough that can be.2 -
Lady_Sleepless✭✭✭✭✭YesIf they add the damage bonus back plus other buffs to the Perfected sets and give a minor buff to the normal weapons, then sure. Maybe make it certain on vet (like it is now) and a chance drop from normal.0 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭People are still saying Maelstrom weapons don't make a big difference?
Suuuuure...Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
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Skinzz✭✭✭✭✭NoHow are people still struggling with vMA?!?!? Higher CP cap made it super easy at this point..Anybody got a group? LFG, anybody? Hello?1 -
peacenote✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭YesI think it aligns with the way the game is going. Would be nice to see the perfect ones buffed a little.
Also, the thing about vMA it is SUCH a time commitment. I honestly would rather get imperfect weapons for my alts vs running vMA over and over. Especially now that we can change traits on our gear and upgrade our jewelry, which means we have options to mitigate the grind for a lot of the other drops.0 -
Apherius✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NoYes. There is no incentive to run NMA as it doesn't even prepare you for VMA
The incentive is XP.0 -
Mystrius_Archaion✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesWe need a reason to run this on normal instead of Vet. I don't hear of anybody running this on normal after learning to advance to vet because normal has nothing for it.
This needs to give a version of the weapons on normal mode, no matter how bad your run since you already spend more time when you lose repeatedly.0 -
XxCaLxX✭✭✭✭✭I personally don’t think that normal maelstrom should award any form of maelstrom weapon. I do like the idea someone else posted here though. Have the improved vMA weapon for flawless runs. Bring them back to how they used to be. VMA lightning staff with Max Magicka but this time there is three different types: max mag, spell crit or spell damage boosts. Same with any other weapon. Like bow with either Max Stam, weapon crit or weapon damage. This way there would be a stat for almost any build and there would be a reason to grind vMA for a lil while longer to get each type of each weapon.
Edit: TypoEdited by XxCaLxX on August 6, 2018 1:56AM0 -
GawdSB✭✭✭✭✭NoValera Progib wrote: »You got to be kidding... vMA is out for such a long time that it is just embarrassing to not be able to complete it...
There are trillion guides for every class on utube...
well, i may be a "noob", or one of them "git gud" players, but in no way i feel embarrassed because i am unable to complete the vMA. frankly, i find it (vMA) too time consuming and above all way too frustrating to be bothered trying. there is too much randomness (poison flowers spawning right at my feet all the time, especially when under i'm under the shield and that Argonian death-metal singer is having a laugh), too many one-shot mechanics, stuff like that takes all my pleasure from the game away. when you add the "i pressed the light attack and then i meant to either shield or heal yet the game decided to do a heavy attack for me and thus i died" bug (or whatever that is)... um, thank you but no, thank you. everything else in the game can be completed without the vMA weapons, i do not mean to push for any leaderboards, so the gear that i have is sufficient for me..
and yes, i know about all those guides on YT (managed to get to the last vMA stage thanks to one of them, can't complete it, too noob-is, i guess), and yes, there are people who run it naked and stuff, but kudos to them, i am still not embarrassed. have fun, people
That's the point though, it's supposed to be extremely hard. If you don't put in the work you don't deserve the reward...5 -
Hulda✭✭✭NoIf you can't beat vMA you won't have use for these weapons anyway. Watered down bow/staff would be almost the same as set bow/staff.6
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DocFrost72✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭YesWhat is confusing to me is the amount of people that think that it could only ever be people who have not finished, farmed, and gotten bored of vma that could want an imperfected system.
I get thinking nMA is too easy, not all the "git gud" lines.1 -
agegarton✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Loving all theses comments. "I have one, and I'm better than you, so you can't have one". The LTP Brigade out in full force, I see. Awesome.
I'd like to see the full VMA weapons for sale at the Golden Vendor, with a different weapon each week. We already have that with the Monster sets and gold rings and necks, so let's have Maelstrom weapons too.
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Mystrius_Archaion✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesLoving all theses comments. "I have one, and I'm better than you, so you can't have one". The LTP Brigade out in full force, I see. Awesome.
I'd like to see the full VMA weapons for sale at the Golden Vendor, with a different weapon each week. We already have that with the Monster sets and gold rings and necks, so let's have Maelstrom weapons too.
Hmm, good idea.2 -
Darkenarlol✭✭✭✭✭
✭Nowant to drive a car?
then go get a driver's license after learning HOW to drive a car
and nope noone gonna give you that driver's licence for *perfect piloting* of your child bicicle with added helping wheels
so... git good1 -
Darkenarlol✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoLoving all theses comments. "I have one, and I'm better than you, so you can't have one". The LTP Brigade out in full force, I see. Awesome.
I'd like to see the full VMA weapons for sale at the Golden Vendor, with a different weapon each week. We already have that with the Monster sets and gold rings and necks, so let's have Maelstrom weapons too.
the point is not in bragging that someone is better that someone else ( i hope so lol)
IMO the point is that asking for something without even trying to put some effort is soooo millenian
so gl in your wet dreams about vma weps at golden lol1 -
Dragonnord✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭NoIn normal difficulty only if they do it harder, because now it's not even a "Normal" mode, it's a "Mega-ultra-very-easy-everything-dies-with-a-light-attack" mode.
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NordSwordnBoard✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭NoI've seen so many times players think that getting this or that gear is going to increase their DPS. They get the gear, test, and then a week later they're on to something else because it didn't work. Not all sets play to my flavor of play either, there's always BiS and a few levels below that are fine for all content but score runs.
Too many people look at the gear instead of themselves. (I know I did in the past) These weapons are force multipliers, they only boost you significantly when your base output itself is also. Think about Minor Slayer results at 15k dps vs 35k dps. Think about adding 2k dps via a MA weapon to make a total of 19k dps for your build/rotation. Then think about adding 6k dps with a tighter rotation alone.
Engaging a turbo-boost that doubles speed while running an engine at 35% throttle is less than running 90% throttle with no turbo. The turbo exists to get you closer to 100% while you push the throttle as far up as you can.Fear is the Mindkiller1 -
LadyNalcarya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoLoving all theses comments. "I have one, and I'm better than you, so you can't have one". The LTP Brigade out in full force, I see. Awesome.
I'd like to see the full VMA weapons for sale at the Golden Vendor, with a different weapon each week. We already have that with the Monster sets and gold rings and necks, so let's have Maelstrom weapons too.
Nope, you CAN clear it and farm a set of vMA weps for all your chars.
Yes, yes, you can, because it was released years ago and it was designed for cp300 chars with Julianos/willpower or Hundings/agility.
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frostz417✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NoA level 20 can get through NMA. It would be a joke seeing a bunch of cp 10’s with vma weapons.1 -
DocFrost72✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭YesA level 20 can get through NMA. It would be a joke seeing a bunch of cp 10’s with vma weapons.
I have a level 46 asylum bow from the time I main tanked. I had everything you expect: crusher, pierce, warhorn... and my health never dropped below 90%.
Organized a run of nAA in my rp guild, several involved were under 50 let alone cp160. Got a fair bit of VO from it too.
Imagine: a VO necklace at level 25.2 -
karekiz✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭YesDarkenarlol wrote: »want to drive a car?
then go get a driver's license after learning HOW to drive a car
and nope noone gonna give you that driver's licence for *perfect piloting* of your child bicicle with added helping wheels
so... git good
Please don't compare real life to a video game. It only makes you look silly.
I mean if I die in real life its game over right? So shouldn't every character get deleted upon death? So...How many time have you deleted and rerolled because of your character dying in a dungeon/overland/PvP/whatever? WHOA C WUT I DID THERE?Edited by karekiz on August 6, 2018 4:00PM3 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoDocFrost72 wrote: »Reminds me of the v13 weapons that dropped from normal DSA ages and ages ago. I think, personally, it is a good design choice.
But this were no masterweapons, just weapons of the sets you got in DSA.
So the current weapons will be considered imperfect, make them drop in normal so that they are accessible to everyone. And then bring back the old stat bonuses in the form of perfected weapons that drop only from vet "HM" (sigil-free, no saves, and maybe even with an imposed time limit) and from leaderboards.
This makes your earlier suggestion clear. However, requiring leaderboard, or even leaderboard time, would be a step away from how you are suggesting perfected weapons drop. Though seemingly a major step since leaderboard is not required to get perfected weapons from trials, thought that is where most get theirs, but it is a different situation.0 -
code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesDocFrost72 wrote: »Reminds me of the v13 weapons that dropped from normal DSA ages and ages ago. I think, personally, it is a good design choice.
But this were no masterweapons, just weapons of the sets you got in DSA.
So the current weapons will be considered imperfect, make them drop in normal so that they are accessible to everyone. And then bring back the old stat bonuses in the form of perfected weapons that drop only from vet "HM" (sigil-free, no saves, and maybe even with an imposed time limit) and from leaderboards.
This makes your earlier suggestion clear. However, requiring leaderboard, or even leaderboard time, would be a step away from how you are suggesting perfected weapons drop. Though seemingly a major step since leaderboard is not required to get perfected weapons from trials, thought that is where most get theirs, but it is a different situation.
Hence the "maybe". Just throwing ideas at the wall on how to get close to a HM feeling for content that doesn't have HM in the traditional sense. Sigil-free and no-save are the two that I'll stand by. Other requirements, I'm not so sure about.Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
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agegarton✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭LadyNalcarya wrote: »Loving all theses comments. "I have one, and I'm better than you, so you can't have one". The LTP Brigade out in full force, I see. Awesome.
I'd like to see the full VMA weapons for sale at the Golden Vendor, with a different weapon each week. We already have that with the Monster sets and gold rings and necks, so let's have Maelstrom weapons too.
Nope, you CAN clear it and farm a set of vMA weps for all your chars. Yes, yes, you can, because it was released years ago and it was designed for cp300 chars with Julianos/willpower or Hundings/agility.
And I have. Way back.
But so what?0 -
BNOC✭✭✭✭✭NoNMA takes 15 minutes and you can almost stand still the entire time, can be naked and have no mundus/food etc.
Do not reward anything for that.
If a player can't complete VMA, then it's highly unlikely that they're in situations that require the weapons.vMSA - Magplar - Xbox EU - 15/11/16
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Apherius✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No
My low lvl char run Nma for Xp during double xp event with pots and full training gear, it give a nice ammount of xp ( including the xp from the Nma quest ).1
