Darkdex wrote: »

Well, bloodthirst is now useless, it is OVERNERFED, a 15% damage increase would be balanced from my perspective. Please reconsider this change @ZOS_GinaBruno

Well it outperformed other traits by a lot, so 10% is fairly in line. With three bloodthirsty you will now get 7.5% more damage overall, which is multiplicative with all other damage.

No other trait would offer you a flat 11.25% damage increase on three jewellery, using the 15% per item you suggested. All builds that were published until now used bloodthirsty because it outperformed the rest by a mile. Now it will be slightly ahead, but it is a tradeoff because resources have more utility.

Damn bloodthirsty down from 20 to 10%. Oh well it was over performing in pve content even though the trait comes from pvp. I don’t understand this for the trait coming from that?
Yet like morlag tong it provides more group utility in pve trail than in cyrodiil.
And what I’m reading this correctly they switch the traits.

Daus wrote: »

And like that, Bloodthirsty is useless. Oh well

Yeah why the heck would they have nerfed it already? I was on the fence about it at 20%; so at 10% it's essentially the jewelry trait equivalent of "invigorating".

Valkysas154 wrote: »

Jeezye wrote: »

Still no class balancing, I'm getting sick of this... Only two more weeks to go on the pts, I don't care about new content if the base content isn't updated! This will be the major update for half a year again and you don't put any effort into maintaining your base game...

It's been confirmed no balance changes for update 18

2ed post
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/411276/combat-changes-5-7-18/p1

WHAT you've got to be kidding me?!?! Well at least I do now know I'll just upgrade my op stamden and stamblade and have fun in PvP.

"We are, however, collecting all your class feedback and will work on improving class balance in future updates" my ***, this will happen in half a year EARLIEST.

Bone Pirate’s Tatters: Fixed an issue where the Max Stamina from this Item Set’s 5-piece bonus was not increasing your damage done with Stamina abilities.

Thank you.

The Bloodthirsty trait was overnerfed tho, 10% is pretty weak, 15% or even 12% would be alright.

GrumpyDuckling wrote: »

Where are the Maelstrom, Master, and Asylum weapon updates?

They're with the Class balance changes.

Doesn't toggle mean you have to slot it on both bars? Perhaps it would make more sense to make it a passive like the current bound armor, so you could have a healing bar and a damage bar.

ConnorWoods wrote: »

From testing that I did bloodthirsty is now going to equal Robust and Arcane over the whole fight which is nice rather than it being superior, so I think It’s still worth using, how is Arms of relequen not been nerfed?!? It does like 8k dps on a la rotation

the reason relequen didnt get nerfed IMO is probably because it was not working as intended with ticking more often than every 1 second im assuming they want to see how it does with it working properly before overreacting to it.

The Bloodthirsty jewelry trait now increases your damage done to low health enemies by 10% per jewelry piece, down from 20%.

Why, why, why!? It was the only jewelry trait (of the new ones) that were interesting to use in a PVE build. I would have liked a 15% and still be somewhat useful. As per the notes, they are additive or multiplicative?

I do appreciate the changes to the Imbue weapon skill refunding resources and disconnecting it with Overload.

I wasn't expecting any additional class changes (and I don;t know why others convinced themselves there would be any, regardless of what was posted) so I'm fine with that.

I am, however, disappointed there was no further reevaluation of the changes that were put in to this PTS cycle (i.e. the 4.0 patch notes). Strife, Rune Cage, and Deep Fissure all have had highly questionable changes made to them and I find it impossible to believe those changes were 1000% perfect and not in any need of further adjustment.

Arena weapons need a small buff to say the least. The worst case is the Asylum destro due to the new psijic super powers in place.

AEAltadoonPadhome wrote: »

Doesn't toggle mean you have to slot it on both bars? Perhaps it would make more sense to make it a passive like the current bound armor, so you could have a healing bar and a damage bar.

Every other toogle who are or were in the game were continuously needed, so you had to slot them on both bar. For mend wound, you don't want it alway active, sometimes you need it and sometimes not, so a toogle fit perfectly. For the second time of ESO's history, a toogle is welcome (the first is overload, who use the exact same base mechanism).
You don't want it as a passive. Having your light and heavy attack locked behind a cost and unable to target the enemy need to be an active choice. That's why a toogle is better than a passive effect such as old toogles are now.

Ectheliontnacil wrote: »

Guys, don't hate on devs for not balancing overperforming classes and sets.

They're frantically searching for new P2W mechanics to introduce with the next update, so they haven't got the time for trifles like fixing the game.

Yeah don't hate the Devs, they just have corporate breathing down their necks

NyassaV wrote: »

Ectheliontnacil wrote: »

Guys, don't hate on devs for not balancing overperforming classes and sets.

They're frantically searching for new P2W mechanics to introduce with the next update, so they haven't got the time for trifles like fixing the game.

Yeah don't hate the Devs, they just have corporate breathing down their necks

I typed so many times it's ZeniMax Media which is problem, but it's completely ignored. Just look at Board of Directors and see how ZOS seriously lacks manpower. People expect from understaffed company which is squeezed by their corporate overlord to do a lot of things. Simply impossible.

Still waiting on those class balance changes that you promised @ZOS_GinaBruno