Hayhurst wrote: »

Light Attacks with One Hand and Shield, Dual Wield, Bow, Destruction Staff, and Restoration Staff weapons will deal more damage.
Light Attacks with Two Handed weapons will deal less damage.
Heavy Attacks with Destruction Staff and Restoration Staff weapons will deal more damage.
Heavy Attacks with Two Handed, One Hand and Shield, Dual Wield, and Bow weapons will deal less damage.

Direct nerf to both light and heavy attack damage for two handed?
That's not reinforcing the concept that Light Attacks are for dealing damage and Heavy Attacks are for restoring resources.

Typo?

I wonder if this is designed to bring 2h light attacks more in line with the other weapon types? ie...

1h LA = 1 DPS
2h LA = 2 DPS

Now

2h LA = 1DPS

Just a guess...I agree that there should be an even playing field for all LA / HA damge outputs.

Does anyone know if the Arms of Relequen set has a cooldown, or is it gated behind the % chance?

BlackStar300 wrote: »

So it looks like Maelstrom/Asylum/Master weapons aren't getting a buff. This is nice. I understand the frustration of those wanting these to be godly, but when 1% of this stuff is locked (even paid because some ppl don't have money for the carries) it really makes it nice to others able to use other means.

Least that is what I read from that bit about the weapons. We will see if ZOS caves in and buffs...them... -_-

Also, amen to that CP300 DLC dungeon cap. That SS info was great, but these are my 2 take away points from the whole notes!

It is not about being "godly" without a buff most of these weapons are WORSE than an additional 4 and 5 piece bonus. Which means these weapons which were hard to get are going in the bank for the time being.

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

usmcjdking wrote: »

Werewolf still in the dumpster.

May be not with Light/Heavy attack scaling!

The fact that WW fans are excited about increased LA dmg just reinforces the fact the class is weak. Unfortunately even with this "buff" the class has fundamental flaws and short comings.

Getting claws of anguish to work is nice but real investment needs to be made into WW and Vampire fun factor. Both are mostly relegated to a passive bonus.

Ectheliontnacil wrote: »

Why, why is magdk getting snare removal?!

Magdk a very strong pvp class gets several powerful buffs and now is the only magicka class to have acess to snare removal! What happened to the "protect your house approach to dk"?

And magblades, always one of the underdogs in pvp, are getting their spammable nerfed into uselessness (go force pulse now) and don't get snare removal even though they sorely need it!

@Ectheliontnacil MagDK was one of the worst classes for openworld, and has the worst class defense. Their defense, wings, is the worst in the game, and believe it or not, their tankiness was too. The passives worked out as less than minor protection. (technically 1.5%.more, but 5% of it is blocking only, which has is now unsustainable, and the other 4.5% is spell only) maim was the best tool, but melee and open to others. Igneous got crystal blasted, so it's worse on both overall, not worth using on mag at all. 6s+bigger shield now 4.5s and smaller.

The snare removal is useless, since it doesn't grant immunity. With a dot or AoE you will be snared straight away again. Mist is better. The heal changes do nothing for PVP (though I may try cinder storm, a small range AoE heal over time isn't worth running ow.) The shattering rocks change seems eh at face value. The sustain changes will be good definitely, free 250 regeneration isn't anything to turn down. But RNG is annoying, and useless against shield users, and other dunmer.

MagNB was one of the best classes openworld and the best mag class. Cloak, shade, high damage etc. The nerf to strife was undeserved though.

Minno wrote: »

Millz wrote: »

that new crafted set.... i already see problems with it, 4000 health every 2 seconds you dodge an attack? weow

that assumes the 4k health will stay 4k health in pvp. and also assumes that health can crit.

My assumption, it will only be a 2k heal in PVP but crit. And with critial dmg modifiers not impacting heals anymore, I see the 2 second cooldown about right for balance (along with the dodge roll cost increase mechanic).

Yeah this set is going to help stam builds get through vMA more easily for their first few tries. The heal will be garbage in PvP.

Goshua wrote: »

This in PvP..

If your character dies, you will not be cleared from a credit list, but logging out of the game will..

Crashing, which happens in large keep fights, will potentially be more hair pulling more aggravation
I hope this is only if someone clicks the log off button or is timed out.

Other than that I'm looking forward to it a lot.

Well since ZOS is going to fix all the crashes in Cyrodiil with this update, this will no longer be an issue.........BAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Okay now that the joke is over, I concur 100%! So many times I get the boot in the middle of a big keep fight.

@ZOS_GinaBruno Does the development team plan on adjusting racial passives with Summerset? Light and heavy attacks scaling with stamina removes any possible advantage Khajiit would have as higher damage/lower sustain DPS vis-a-vis Redguard's theoretical lower damage/higher sustain passive configuration.

I feel like khajiit are being coded out of the game, and there's no place for us anymore.

I fail to understand the changes to Sunderflame and Nightmothers Gaze. I do understand that from a balance standpoint the move away from unique buffs/de-buffs to a standardized system makes developer life easy...

However, these two sets added a layer of diversity and required optimization for trial groups. Simply put these two sets required a level of team cooperation you just remove with one fell swoop.

Further more, these two sets were really there to balance out the fact that medium armor gets no innate penetration like light armor gets.

All you did with this change is not force all stamina users in trials to want to run Two-Fang Snake, at least until you (ZoS) opt to remove its unique penetration buff as well.

Larsay wrote: »

I fail to understand the changes to Sunderflame and Nightmothers Gaze. I do understand that from a balance standpoint the move away from unique buffs/de-buffs to a standardized system makes developer life easy...

However, these two sets added a layer of diversity and required optimization for trial groups. Simply put these two sets required a level of team cooperation you just remove with one fell swoop.

Further more, these two sets were really there to balance out the fact that medium armor gets no innate penetration like light armor gets.

All you did with this change is not force all stamina users in trials to want to run Two-Fang Snake, at least until you (ZoS) opt to remove its unique penetration buff as well.

But medium armor gets way more Wpn Damage and more Crit.

By having one debuffer in the raid, apart from the tank, it allowed the other Stam DDs to hit the boss with full penetration despite wearing two damage sets. Thus putting stam DDs' DPS numbers far above what mag DDs could achieve.

Either having to sacrifice one damage set or having to hit with less penetration, the result is the same. Stam DPS will drop and fall more in line with Mag DPS.

Maulkin wrote: »

Larsay wrote: »

I fail to understand the changes to Sunderflame and Nightmothers Gaze. I do understand that from a balance standpoint the move away from unique buffs/de-buffs to a standardized system makes developer life easy...

However, these two sets added a layer of diversity and required optimization for trial groups. Simply put these two sets required a level of team cooperation you just remove with one fell swoop.

Further more, these two sets were really there to balance out the fact that medium armor gets no innate penetration like light armor gets.

All you did with this change is not force all stamina users in trials to want to run Two-Fang Snake, at least until you (ZoS) opt to remove its unique penetration buff as well.

But medium armor gets way more Wpn Damage and more Crit.

By having one debuffer in the raid, apart from the tank, it allowed the other Stam DDs to hit the boss with full penetration despite wearing two damage sets. Thus putting stam DDs' DPS numbers far above what mag DDs could achieve.

Either having to sacrifice one damage set or having to hit with less penetration, the result is the same. Stam DPS will drop and fall more in line with Mag DPS.

Wouldnt that make the return of the 8 mag dd meta?

Sunderflame completely removes the viability of a stamina templar in raids.

SupremeRissole wrote: »

Sunderflame completely removes the viability of a stamina templar in raids.

Nah, most raids will take one skill>5 piece set