Many here are still referring to Eclipse reflecting projectiles but it doesn't? It just proccs of direct damage the enemy does. Or did I miss something?

@Checkmath your idea for a growing heal (kinda like thorvokun's poison) but you only get the heal once per cast when you hit the growing ring of healing, is really cool/unique. I've never thought of something like that but it would be very fun to use, at the very least casually.

Sucks when classes get nerfed into squirtgun battles. The skillgap gets lowered and the game becomes not fun anymore. Ive seen if with Destiny 2 and tons of other games. Devs look for balance but nerfing everything makes it balanced but boring. You need to find middle ground.

Seraphayel wrote: »

I have high hopes for tomorrows news but I fear that we all will get sorely disappointed and there won't be substantial changes for classes...

I don't expect much for tomorrow, aside from a general SI news update.

We probably wouldnt see much info into classes until PTS is ready to drop (didnt Gina say this was next week?)

Seraphayel wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

I have high hopes for tomorrows news but I fear that we all will get sorely disappointed and there won't be substantial changes for classes...

I don't expect much for tomorrow, aside from a general SI news update.

We probably wouldnt see much info into classes until PTS is ready to drop (didnt Gina say this was next week?)

Well I think we will get most information tomorrow either by ZOS talking about upcoming changes or the streamers that visited them. Won't be as detailed as the PTS notes for sure but I think the most important things we'll get to know tomorrow.

That does make sense! Either way, I hope we get to see more info on jewel traits, BG maps, and the new skilline.

If a fix for jabs is not already in the PTS tomorrow I will be making additional threads

I can mostly only talk about Templars as tanks since that's normally what I play when we run the hardest content (my stamplars and healers don't get tested to that degree in easier content I use them for). So, these ideas might come off as selfish for targeting the Templar in the tank role, but figure I might as well focus on what I'm more familiar with and dream...

Templars make ok tanks, but feels like they should be stronger than they are at the role. Wardens seem to have taken the spot I always thought Templars should be in with the little tankiness they give up vs DK coming at the benefit of extra group heals and buffs.

I've seen mention of the lack of CC and chains, which is always rough for every non DK class. Using FG for Silver Leash chains was an interesting idea, though I really wish Undaunted skill line was used to offer 'dungeoning' support for... well support. Always would have preferred the web/spider ability to be a sub for chain pulling.

Stam regen while blocking. Some classes have this (DK - using Earthen heart, Warden - netch, NB - siphoning) and Sorc has Dark Deal which is very situational, but strong. Templars have nothing really for this unless you are talking about trash pulls combined with Repentance, but in a main boss fight that isn't so useful. So Personally I think the other morph of Rune Focus that does not offer magic return, should offer stam return. That way you can get a small amount of stam back for using a skill the way other classes can.

This thought isn't about Tanking specifically, just an ability that has always seemed meh: Healing Ritual has always been pretty lame. It should just be changed completely imo. Instead of making it a channel, perhaps making it more like a place-able AoE heal like Warden's blossom would make it useful. Definitely should be something along the lines of some sort of "ritual" use, like a place-able enchantment that can be activated.

Burst heal - Breath of Life is ok, even though expensive, for a burst heal; but obviously will go to whoever needs it. How about the Honor the Dead morph (I don't think this morph is used all that often anyhow) be turned into a self heal (scaling off of health even) - could even work differently, instead of just giving you a big heal in one second like Breath or Dragons Blood, it would be like a two-second HoT and on the first tick (since it doesn't have the extra small cast of healing going to someone) could make the Templar glow or sparkle or whatever and do a small AoE 1k heal for anyone within 2m (or smaller even) of them.

Sun Shield is an alright skill, but doesn't really seem to be as solid as a couple other class shields. I really like the idea of the explosion it sets off when you cast it also adding another effect for the caster. Doesn't even have to be Major Evasion, even Minor like what Wardens get with the morph of wings for the first couple seconds of the ability after activation. I also think maybe a 1 or 2 second longer duration is needed.

I'm sure DPS love having the options between magic and stam version of spears, but it would be nice to have a CC-lockdown version of spears. I understand how fun it is to knock people off of stuff in cyrodiil, but having a morph 'pin' your target to the ground like a singular Talons/Encase CC would be nice, and - for it being single target, it could be much cheaper to use than AoE CCs.

Obviously we'll have to see how things play out in the PTS, but at least on a first look, it doesn't seem that Summerset will go very far to fix magplar issues. Sun Shield, Toppling Charge, and Radial Sweep didn't get touched, and while some of the Psijic skills will definitely be useful (AOE snare/unblockable stun in particular), the class itself still seems stuck in 2016.

Also the Puncturing Sweeps heal nano-buff seems like ZOS is just trolling us at this point.

I'm sure the class will be better in SSI than it is now, but that's a pretty low bar to clear.

technohic wrote: »

Is RD absolute crap now? Was testing it on some mammoths and although it gives that big tick right at the end, the target doesnt actually have that much health and it seems like otherwise; I will kill the target just as fast without it

Idk but Kill Counter addon doesnt even register most of its kills

Cinbri wrote: »

From Alcast thread of closed testing:
https://alcasthq.com/eso-summerset-isles-changes-pre-pts/

Templar
Puncturing Strikes
Increased the damage done and healing received from this skill by 5%.
Solar Disturbance
Snare effect will go on for 4 seconds after leaving the AoE.
Dark Flare
Debuffs from this ability now apply even if the enemy dodges the attack.
Honor the Dead
Magicka returned from this skill is now completed after 4 seconds instead of 6 seconds.
Healing Ritual
This is now instant cast, cost was increased tremendously.
Enduring Rays Passive
This now increases the time of Sun Fire, Eclipse and Nova abilities by 2 seconds instead of 30%.

Omg.