Thannazzar wrote: »If you cant aford to gamble, dont. As long as the crate contents stay cosmetic or consumable and not pay to win any funding for the game is good.
Seen enough "lucky boxes" in my day to know better than to buy them.
I would gladly pay 1500 or 3000 or perhaps even 5000 crowns for something I want specifically instead of dumping 5 times that into crates that are statistically bad odds.
Waffennacht wrote: »Couldn't afford the elk, in or out of the crates, so it's the same for me either way really - though I suppose free crown crates gives me a shot.
LadyAstrum wrote: »I'd rather expensive, limited-time direct purchases over the (tweekable) RNG drop rates of crown crates. At least you know what you're getting, but hat's off to ZoS, they manage to entice those with loose wallets (and loose minds) to part with their cash.
I don't care for rare crate drops and if ZOS can make money this way, it affects me only in a good way like they can afford to put discounts on stuff I care about.
Actually, it effects you in a negative way because they release lower quality content and do less bug fixing because they realize they can make money through this kind of crap instead of releasing a quality stable product.
Good luck proving the causative link, even assuming that your description of the quality of the content and rate of bug fixing is accurate, which is in itself debatable.
Well, lets look. Orsinium was released, quality content with not SO many glitches, performance was better , there were no crown crates and there was less focus on the crown store. Lets fast forward. Vardenfell was released, performance has been dropping since after Orsinium release, which shortly after orsinium is when crown crates were released and more focus put on the store, an OBSURD amount of glitches, and its a new dev team. Its pretty obvious to anyone who has been playing since start and has played other mmos that went down this route.
Again, good luck proving the causative link. Your post is a combination of subjective opinion and speculation. My experience has been different to yours, I've noticed no reduction in performance or quality. Incidentally, I do not buy crown crates so am not approaching the subject from that particular bias unlike many whose opinion about the game post-crates is heavily influenced by their inherent dislike of them! As for other MMOs, I've played plenty of crap MMOs without lockboxes, and some decent ones with lockboxes, again the problem is proving a causative link where the influence of lockboxes on the rest of the game is concerned.
Anotherone773 wrote: »I notice a lot of people in this game complain about the price of COSMETIC items. Its ridiculous. Radiant Apex is there for a reason and that reason is to sell crown crates. It is why they are exclusive to crown crates. I see a lot of " I cant afford it but want it, therefore you should give it to me" and " I spent way more money than i can actually afford trying to get animated pixels and now i have severe buyer's remorse" in these threads.
They arent going to stop selling crown crates because chance crates are HUGE money makers in games. And their is a snowballs chance in hell that they will make radiant apex a gem item as its a major selling point of the crates and likely boosts sales significantly.
You are more likely to get all bugs fixed, flying mounts, Auction houses, open world pvp, trial group finder, spellcrafting, jewelry crafting, and buffs to every class you play all in the same 100% free DLC before they take away such a good revenue stream as crown crates and radiant apex mounts.
They are part of games income, that keeps the game going. They serve a purpose because players are too foolish not to play subscriber games anymore.
Though i understand, that people are jealous about flashy stuff in crates, im pretty sure that these things would never be here without the crates so i suggest you just stop being jealous and carry on.
I dont generally like these things at all, but this is the gaming you scrooges have created, live with it.
They are part of games income, that keeps the game going. They serve a purpose because players are too foolish not to play subscriber games anymore.
Though i understand, that people are jealous about flashy stuff in crates, im pretty sure that these things would never be here without the crates so i suggest you just stop being jealous and carry on.
I dont generally like these things at all, but this is the gaming you scrooges have created, live with it.
Funny, the game was doing just fine without crates.
It was, which is why it was one of the most financially successful mmos around. Crates are about pure greed, not about the bottom line. Its no coincidence that we got a new team, and then crates were released and quality dropped.DieAlteHexe wrote: »They are part of games income, that keeps the game going. They serve a purpose because players are too foolish not to play subscriber games anymore.
Though i understand, that people are jealous about flashy stuff in crates, im pretty sure that these things would never be here without the crates so i suggest you just stop being jealous and carry on.
I dont generally like these things at all, but this is the gaming you scrooges have created, live with it.
Funny, the game was doing just fine without crates.
I wonder if the beancounters and BoD share that opinion. I'd wager, not.
Bottom line, folks, bottom line.
It was, which is why it was one of the most financially successful mmos around. Crates are about pure greed, not about the bottom line. Its no coincidence that we got a new team, and then crates were released and quality dropped.DieAlteHexe wrote: »They are part of games income, that keeps the game going. They serve a purpose because players are too foolish not to play subscriber games anymore.
Though i understand, that people are jealous about flashy stuff in crates, im pretty sure that these things would never be here without the crates so i suggest you just stop being jealous and carry on.
I dont generally like these things at all, but this is the gaming you scrooges have created, live with it.
Funny, the game was doing just fine without crates.
I wonder if the beancounters and BoD share that opinion. I'd wager, not.
Bottom line, folks, bottom line.
vamp_emily wrote: »There is no reason for anyone to pay 300-600 dollars for a chance to get something. That is insane, it is clearly ripping people off.
Before crown crates I spent a lot of money, I would say I was one of the top purchasers. I was purchasing stuff on 3 accounts. Since crown crates were introduced my spending has dropped like 90%.
I get it they want to make money but really if you think about it people would spend more money if they put stuff in the crown store instead of scam boxes.
So all you players out there spending money on crown crates, spend some more. Spend all your money, i don't care but let me tell you something. It is stupid doing it. The stuff in the scam boxes are not worth it. Save that money and buy you something nice like a super computer or a RL lamborghini.
DieAlteHexe wrote: »They are part of games income, that keeps the game going. They serve a purpose because players are too foolish not to play subscriber games anymore.
Though i understand, that people are jealous about flashy stuff in crates, im pretty sure that these things would never be here without the crates so i suggest you just stop being jealous and carry on.
I dont generally like these things at all, but this is the gaming you scrooges have created, live with it.
Funny, the game was doing just fine without crates.
I wonder if the beancounters and BoD share that opinion. I'd wager, not.
Bottom line, folks, bottom line.
Anotherone773 wrote: »I notice a lot of people in this game complain about the price of COSMETIC items. Its ridiculous. Radiant Apex is there for a reason and that reason is to sell crown crates. It is why they are exclusive to crown crates. I see a lot of " I cant afford it but want it, therefore you should give it to me" and " I spent way more money than i can actually afford trying to get animated pixels and now i have severe buyer's remorse" in these threads.
They arent going to stop selling crown crates because chance crates are HUGE money makers in games. And their is a snowballs chance in hell that they will make radiant apex a gem item as its a major selling point of the crates and likely boosts sales significantly.
You are more likely to get all bugs fixed, flying mounts, Auction houses, open world pvp, trial group finder, spellcrafting, jewelry crafting, and buffs to every class you play all in the same 100% free DLC before they take away such a good revenue stream as crown crates and radiant apex mounts.
DieAlteHexe wrote: »It was, which is why it was one of the most financially successful mmos around. Crates are about pure greed, not about the bottom line. Its no coincidence that we got a new team, and then crates were released and quality dropped.DieAlteHexe wrote: »They are part of games income, that keeps the game going. They serve a purpose because players are too foolish not to play subscriber games anymore.
Though i understand, that people are jealous about flashy stuff in crates, im pretty sure that these things would never be here without the crates so i suggest you just stop being jealous and carry on.
I dont generally like these things at all, but this is the gaming you scrooges have created, live with it.
Funny, the game was doing just fine without crates.
I wonder if the beancounters and BoD share that opinion. I'd wager, not.
Bottom line, folks, bottom line.
Profit, yup. BoDs tend to really like seeing that, the more the merrier. Seems like the bandwagon is well and truly jumped on, pretty much across the genre.
Shadowasrial wrote: »Do you want the crown store to go back to where they used to showcase a larger amount of items and sell everything for a set amount of crowns? Would you be willing to pay 5000 crowns for an radiant apex mount instead of gambling your money and crowns to more than likely not getting the mount you want? I know I have personally spent over 60,000 crowns to get the cold fire atro wolf mount. Didn’t do much as get a single apex mount much less a radiant one. Thus I did not buy the new crown crates this time around. Should everything in crown crates go back to being for sale with crowns only? Let me know your thoughts. Only way to make a change is to get enough people to voice their opinions
I don’t want them gone, but I do want a better chance at getting good items and I’d like to see fewer trash items in the mix.
PetiteFire wrote: »I'm voting no because I know this is where ZOS' profit lies, I love this game and would hate for it to be shut down like various other MMOs that I have played.
Tons of other games have the same concept of items for real cash. I only buy what I feel like buying and can afford at the time. I don't go out of my way to buy crown crates - I literally buy the pack of 4 at most if there's something I want to get - and I barely buy anything from the crown store, again, unless it's something I really want.
If you don't want to purchase crown crates, don't. If you do, then go for it. As long as you can afford it and are not getting yourself into debt, what you choose to spend your money is just that - Your choice. It doesn't matter how much you scream 'it's a rip-off!!", people are ultimately going to do what they want with ther money.
Crown items are not a critical part of the gameplay. You can play this entire game for free without a single crown store purchase. So I don't understand why people are so angry. It's merely for vanity items.
DieAlteHexe wrote: »LadyAstrum wrote: »I'd rather expensive, limited-time direct purchases over the (tweekable) RNG drop rates of crown crates. At least you know what you're getting, but hat's off to ZoS, they manage to entice those with loose wallets (and loose minds) to part with their cash.
Y'know, there is no reason, other than pure cussedness, to call people who do enjoy a go with crates derisory names. Because you don't care for them, for whatever reason, does not make those who do buy them and enjoy them "loose minded" or "brain dead" or any of the other terms.
Really, it's fine to dislike/hate them, but it's not needed to be snarky at those who do.