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Do you want crown crates gone?

  • vyndral13preub18_ESO
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    Thannazzar wrote: »
    If you cant aford to gamble, dont. As long as the crate contents stay cosmetic or consumable and not pay to win any funding for the game is good.

    If any funding for the game is good, why does it have to stay cosmetic?
  • Shadowmaster
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    Aesthier wrote: »
    Seen enough "lucky boxes" in my day to know better than to buy them.

    I would gladly pay 1500 or 3000 or perhaps even 5000 crowns for something I want specifically instead of dumping 5 times that into crates that are statistically bad odds.

    right but from a business standpoint, why would I sell you something for $10 that you are willing to pay $600 for?
  • heaven13
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    Would be much happier if everything was available for direct purchase. If they want to keep the crates, they could definitely go about them in a different way.
    1. Get rid of radiant apex. Everything can be purchased with gems.
    2. Publish the odds.
    3. Allow exchange of everything, not just duplicates or consumables.
    4. Last, but probably best: put everything in the store for direct purchase but keep crates. People can buy for set price OR spend crowns for a crate and get a couple things that might end up being worth more than direct purchase.

    Would be best of both worlds and reach customers like me who refuse to spend their hard earned money on a chance. I'd even be okay with keeping radiant apex in crates only (provided they could be purchased with gems as in point 1)

    If they changed things to be as suggested in #4, I'd even be fine with dropping #3. If you can buy directly, no need really to exchange stuff you didn't want from crates since that was just an optional method to obtain, maybe for cheaper.
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  • MinarasLaure
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    Why?
    I've never bought one simply cause I'm not interested.
    Just ignore them if you don't want/like them.

    There is no real advantage in buying crates, cosmetics aside (maybe motifs?)
  • Ingenon
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    I think they should keep the crates, and continue to sell similar stuff in the crown store. If I just want a mount that looks different than the one they are giving away now at level 10, I could buy a different mount in the crown store, or I could buy some crates, and hope I get a different mount.

    I buy things I want with crowns, and I get free crates occasionally. Works for me.
  • _Salty_
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    Couldn't afford the elk, in or out of the crates, so it's the same for me either way really - though I suppose free crown crates gives me a shot.

    I didnt get the Elk the first time. I was away when it was available. I paid for 2 4packs of crates and I got enough gems to buy it. Luckily I ended up paying less for it than if I had bought it the first time. Its too bad you couldn't get it this time. Im sure it will hit the cycle again.

    Im not a fan of gamble crates but I dont understand all the complaining. The best rewards are supposed to be rare. Spending more doesn't mean you will get anything other than an empty bank account or hurt feelings.

    In today's society where every special snowflake gets a participant prize and entitlement is at scary proportions Im honestly not surprised at all the complaint posts.

    Maybe Im just a Salty Old bugger but the problem isnt that there are Crown crates, the problem is people purchase them with unrealistic expectations.

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  • Lord-Otto
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    I don't wanna spend money on junk I don't want, just to have a chance at getting desired stuff. I wanna buy exactly what I want with my hard-earned money. When's the last time you went to a restaurant for a burger and had to buy a menu with radishes, lettuce, spinach and broccoli to actually get the burger? It's a customer-hostile practice.

    The only saving grace were the gems. But just as ZOS broke their own business terms by excluding Morro from ESO+, calling it a "chapter", not DLC, they cheated their way out of guaranteed loot with "radiant" apex rewards.

    I will never be able to enjoy the Shadow Rider mount. Nor will 99% of players. ZOS are punishing 99% of their player base just to please the 1% whales. CROWN CRATES STRIP YOU OF AVAILABLE STUFF. Let that sink in.

    I fail to see how anyone could defend this. Crown crates are a scam. And worse, they are another example of ZOS simply breaking the business terms. ZOS are really lucky gaming companies get a free pass on this stuff, as they're still regarded making children toys. Any honest business would have their butt sued.
  • zyk
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    Is this IMVU/Second Life or is this an MMORPG? I know ZOS likes to call it an Online RPG now, but when it was in development and after it was launched, it was called an MMORPG. I certainly intended to play an MMORPG.

    In an MMORPG, the coolest items are obtained through adventuring. The status and tingling feeling of phat loot is the reward you receive for working with others to overcome the barriers they are locked behind.

    In ESO, those barriers are mostly cash and RNG.

    I continue to play ESO because of friends and because I'm invested in it, but those things remain less true each day. ZOS is far past the 'we need to make necessary compromises to our business model and the product we sold you to survive' and well into the 'we're going to use psychology and data mining to milk every cent out of you while we can get away with it' stage.
    Edited by zyk on March 18, 2018 5:40AM
  • LadyAstrum
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    I'd rather expensive, limited-time direct purchases over the (tweekable) RNG drop rates of crown crates. At least you know what you're getting, but hat's off to ZoS, they manage to entice those with loose wallets (and loose minds) to part with their cash.
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  • DieAlteHexe
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    LadyAstrum wrote: »
    I'd rather expensive, limited-time direct purchases over the (tweekable) RNG drop rates of crown crates. At least you know what you're getting, but hat's off to ZoS, they manage to entice those with loose wallets (and loose minds) to part with their cash.

    Y'know, there is no reason, other than pure cussedness, to call people who do enjoy a go with crates derisory names. Because you don't care for them, for whatever reason, does not make those who do buy them and enjoy them "loose minded" or "brain dead" or any of the other terms.

    Really, it's fine to dislike/hate them, but it's not needed to be snarky at those who do.

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  • Jade1986
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    Tandor wrote: »
    Jade1986 wrote: »
    Tandor wrote: »
    Jade1986 wrote: »
    Jura23 wrote: »
    I don't care for rare crate drops and if ZOS can make money this way, it affects me only in a good way like they can afford to put discounts on stuff I care about.

    Actually, it effects you in a negative way because they release lower quality content and do less bug fixing because they realize they can make money through this kind of crap instead of releasing a quality stable product.

    Good luck proving the causative link, even assuming that your description of the quality of the content and rate of bug fixing is accurate, which is in itself debatable.

    Well, lets look. Orsinium was released, quality content with not SO many glitches, performance was better , there were no crown crates and there was less focus on the crown store. Lets fast forward. Vardenfell was released, performance has been dropping since after Orsinium release, which shortly after orsinium is when crown crates were released and more focus put on the store, an OBSURD amount of glitches, and its a new dev team. Its pretty obvious to anyone who has been playing since start and has played other mmos that went down this route.

    Again, good luck proving the causative link. Your post is a combination of subjective opinion and speculation. My experience has been different to yours, I've noticed no reduction in performance or quality. Incidentally, I do not buy crown crates so am not approaching the subject from that particular bias unlike many whose opinion about the game post-crates is heavily influenced by their inherent dislike of them! As for other MMOs, I've played plenty of crap MMOs without lockboxes, and some decent ones with lockboxes, again the problem is proving a causative link where the influence of lockboxes on the rest of the game is concerned.

    Look anywhere u go, ask anywhere u go in game. Almost everyone is experiencing worse performance now a days and there are an overabundance of glitches. You can't prove anything cuz zos isn't gonna be public about it, but a quick search on the forums, Reddit, etc will give you an absurd amount of performance issue topics since shortly after orsinium. Its cool tho, I don't expect to change your mind, your mind is set. Fun thing about facts tho, they are true whether you change your mind or not.
  • Jade1986
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    I notice a lot of people in this game complain about the price of COSMETIC items. Its ridiculous. Radiant Apex is there for a reason and that reason is to sell crown crates. It is why they are exclusive to crown crates. I see a lot of " I cant afford it but want it, therefore you should give it to me" and " I spent way more money than i can actually afford trying to get animated pixels and now i have severe buyer's remorse" in these threads.


    They arent going to stop selling crown crates because chance crates are HUGE money makers in games. And their is a snowballs chance in hell that they will make radiant apex a gem item as its a major selling point of the crates and likely boosts sales significantly.

    You are more likely to get all bugs fixed, flying mounts, Auction houses, open world pvp, trial group finder, spellcrafting, jewelry crafting, and buffs to every class you play all in the same 100% free DLC before they take away such a good revenue stream as crown crates and radiant apex mounts.

    Heaven forbid people be outraged at being milked to rp in an mmoRPg.
  • Jade1986
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    Tapio75 wrote: »
    They are part of games income, that keeps the game going. They serve a purpose because players are too foolish not to play subscriber games anymore.

    Though i understand, that people are jealous about flashy stuff in crates, im pretty sure that these things would never be here without the crates so i suggest you just stop being jealous and carry on.

    I dont generally like these things at all, but this is the gaming you scrooges have created, live with it.

    Funny, the game was doing just fine without crates.
  • DieAlteHexe
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    Jade1986 wrote: »
    Tapio75 wrote: »
    They are part of games income, that keeps the game going. They serve a purpose because players are too foolish not to play subscriber games anymore.

    Though i understand, that people are jealous about flashy stuff in crates, im pretty sure that these things would never be here without the crates so i suggest you just stop being jealous and carry on.

    I dont generally like these things at all, but this is the gaming you scrooges have created, live with it.

    Funny, the game was doing just fine without crates.

    I wonder if the beancounters and BoD share that opinion. I'd wager, not.

    Bottom line, folks, bottom line.

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  • Jade1986
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    Jade1986 wrote: »
    Tapio75 wrote: »
    They are part of games income, that keeps the game going. They serve a purpose because players are too foolish not to play subscriber games anymore.

    Though i understand, that people are jealous about flashy stuff in crates, im pretty sure that these things would never be here without the crates so i suggest you just stop being jealous and carry on.

    I dont generally like these things at all, but this is the gaming you scrooges have created, live with it.

    Funny, the game was doing just fine without crates.

    I wonder if the beancounters and BoD share that opinion. I'd wager, not.

    Bottom line, folks, bottom line.
    It was, which is why it was one of the most financially successful mmos around. Crates are about pure greed, not about the bottom line. Its no coincidence that we got a new team, and then crates were released and quality dropped.
  • DieAlteHexe
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    Jade1986 wrote: »
    Jade1986 wrote: »
    Tapio75 wrote: »
    They are part of games income, that keeps the game going. They serve a purpose because players are too foolish not to play subscriber games anymore.

    Though i understand, that people are jealous about flashy stuff in crates, im pretty sure that these things would never be here without the crates so i suggest you just stop being jealous and carry on.

    I dont generally like these things at all, but this is the gaming you scrooges have created, live with it.

    Funny, the game was doing just fine without crates.

    I wonder if the beancounters and BoD share that opinion. I'd wager, not.

    Bottom line, folks, bottom line.
    It was, which is why it was one of the most financially successful mmos around. Crates are about pure greed, not about the bottom line. Its no coincidence that we got a new team, and then crates were released and quality dropped.

    Profit, yup. BoDs tend to really like seeing that, the more the merrier. Seems like the bandwagon is well and truly jumped on, pretty much across the genre.


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  • vamp_emily
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    There is no reason for anyone to pay 300-600 dollars for a chance to get something. That is insane, it is clearly ripping people off.

    Before crown crates I spent a lot of money, I would say I was one of the top purchasers. I was purchasing stuff on 3 accounts. Since crown crates were introduced my spending has dropped like 90%.

    I get it they want to make money but really if you think about it people would spend more money if they put stuff in the crown store instead of scam boxes.

    So all you players out there spending money on crown crates, spend some more. Spend all your money, i don't care but let me tell you something. It is stupid doing it. The stuff in the scam boxes are not worth it. Save that money and buy you something nice like a super computer or a RL lamborghini. :)



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  • DieAlteHexe
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    vamp_emily wrote: »
    There is no reason for anyone to pay 300-600 dollars for a chance to get something. That is insane, it is clearly ripping people off.

    Before crown crates I spent a lot of money, I would say I was one of the top purchasers. I was purchasing stuff on 3 accounts. Since crown crates were introduced my spending has dropped like 90%.

    I get it they want to make money but really if you think about it people would spend more money if they put stuff in the crown store instead of scam boxes.

    So all you players out there spending money on crown crates, spend some more. Spend all your money, i don't care but let me tell you something. It is stupid doing it. The stuff in the scam boxes are not worth it. Save that money and buy you something nice like a super computer or a RL lamborghini. :)


    Point made and taken but (I'm feeling feisty today), already have a good computer (suits me) and I wouldn't spend one cent on a fancy car. :p

    My point being some folk have different ideas of how it's "best" to spend their discretionary income. So, as long as they are paying their bills, I don't see an issue. The debate on how "addictive" crate buying? Still on the fence there with a "lean" toward doubting that there are enough addictive personality types to change the system. I could be totally wrong on that last. Just a gut feeling.

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  • Sleep
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    I don't care. i'm just no buying them
  • Elsonso
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    Jade1986 wrote: »
    Tapio75 wrote: »
    They are part of games income, that keeps the game going. They serve a purpose because players are too foolish not to play subscriber games anymore.

    Though i understand, that people are jealous about flashy stuff in crates, im pretty sure that these things would never be here without the crates so i suggest you just stop being jealous and carry on.

    I dont generally like these things at all, but this is the gaming you scrooges have created, live with it.

    Funny, the game was doing just fine without crates.

    I wonder if the beancounters and BoD share that opinion. I'd wager, not.

    Bottom line, folks, bottom line.

    This game has already generated hundreds of millions in revenue over the last four years. I believe that it is a successful game. I believe that it is not a failure.

    ZOS does need money though, and you are correct that the bean counters and executives might feel differently about the need for Crown Crates. Crown Crates are easy money with almost no investment. It is as close to printing money as they can get.

    I would seriously question the people running ZOS if they did not have a new project in production. ESO is a great game, but it is four years old now. It is a stable game, from a business expense perspective. It is time for them to be working on something new that will step in and join ESO. Or, replace ESO. It takes years to take these games from concept to announce. They need to be started on this. They should already be started on this.

    Maybe they are happy with ESO right now and in no hurry to move to the next project. I somehow doubt that, but even if that is the case now, that new project is coming.

    ZOS is not living month to month trying to keep ESO alive. Far from it. That new project is where I think the excess revenue from ESO is going. If they don't have the excess revenue to do this, then ESO is a failure.

    If people are buying Crown Crates to support ESO, they might want to think again. Will they get upset to find out they were funding another game?

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  • Saturn
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    I notice a lot of people in this game complain about the price of COSMETIC items. Its ridiculous. Radiant Apex is there for a reason and that reason is to sell crown crates. It is why they are exclusive to crown crates. I see a lot of " I cant afford it but want it, therefore you should give it to me" and " I spent way more money than i can actually afford trying to get animated pixels and now i have severe buyer's remorse" in these threads.


    They arent going to stop selling crown crates because chance crates are HUGE money makers in games. And their is a snowballs chance in hell that they will make radiant apex a gem item as its a major selling point of the crates and likely boosts sales significantly.

    You are more likely to get all bugs fixed, flying mounts, Auction houses, open world pvp, trial group finder, spellcrafting, jewelry crafting, and buffs to every class you play all in the same 100% free DLC before they take away such a good revenue stream as crown crates and radiant apex mounts.

    The thing is, most of the cool things you can get in this game come from the store, and the focus is on the crates especially, so while it isn't Pay-to-win, it is Pay-to-have-stuff, which, if you play an MMO for a long time, you wanna have stuff. Compare the stuff you can get from the store with the cosmetic rewards you get for actually playing the game and you'll see a big difference. Honestly I think even just having the store is a bad thing, but the crown crates definitely have to go. I don't care if they make them a lot of money, because it doesn't seem to me that all that money is being invested back into the game (deteriorating servers, lack of proper QA, etc.), so where is it going? Also, from a moral standpoint it's incredibly exploitive and preys on people with gambling addictions and OCDs.

    If they want to keep the crown crates in what they could do is make each item on their list purchaseable with crowns, so as to give players the ability to outright buy what they want or take the chance with the lottery system. BUT, even if they do that they need to label it as gambling, because that's what it is. And by not doing that they are lying to their customers, but again, this doesn't solely fall on ZOS, but rather those meant to enforce game ratings, such as ESRB and PEGI, but they refuse to label lootboxes as gambling.
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  • Jade1986
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    Jade1986 wrote: »
    Jade1986 wrote: »
    Tapio75 wrote: »
    They are part of games income, that keeps the game going. They serve a purpose because players are too foolish not to play subscriber games anymore.

    Though i understand, that people are jealous about flashy stuff in crates, im pretty sure that these things would never be here without the crates so i suggest you just stop being jealous and carry on.

    I dont generally like these things at all, but this is the gaming you scrooges have created, live with it.

    Funny, the game was doing just fine without crates.

    I wonder if the beancounters and BoD share that opinion. I'd wager, not.

    Bottom line, folks, bottom line.
    It was, which is why it was one of the most financially successful mmos around. Crates are about pure greed, not about the bottom line. Its no coincidence that we got a new team, and then crates were released and quality dropped.

    Profit, yup. BoDs tend to really like seeing that, the more the merrier. Seems like the bandwagon is well and truly jumped on, pretty much across the genre.

    I have to ask BoDs?
  • Hanokihs
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    If they get rid of it, they're going to replace it with something worse that's even less consumer-friendly. Plus, at least this way we get regular content that's moderately high-quality. Have you gone back and looked at some of the things that weren't in the crates or came before crates started? The art/aesthetics are typically terrible. There are dog pets in-game right now with no teeth, and most of the earlier three-in-a-set costumes were just copies of each other with minor alterations and palette swaps.

    On the other hand, I don't like having to gamble for things I want; I never have, and I never will, but I've accepted that it's what we're given. If there was a different way to keep these themed releases rolling without the chance factor, I'd be all over it in a minute. As it stands, what other system will make them the same amount of money? What alternative is there that'll make a greater number of people happy while still getting the whales to open up their wallets because they just don't care about the cost when there are cosmetics on the table that they want? Until someone answers that question, things won't change.

    Do we have to resort to an entire chapter of cosmetics-only DLC to achieve the same purpose? A giant pack for about $40-$60, where you get all the mounts/pets/motifs/house items in the theme as a single set? Would it have to be even more, maybe twice as expensive? Do we have to go back to a semi-subscription model and loyalty rewards? Who knows. We don't have the numbers, and they themselves haven't asked our opinions.
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  • Vulsahdaal
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    Do you want the crown store to go back to where they used to showcase a larger amount of items and sell everything for a set amount of crowns? Would you be willing to pay 5000 crowns for an radiant apex mount instead of gambling your money and crowns to more than likely not getting the mount you want? I know I have personally spent over 60,000 crowns to get the cold fire atro wolf mount. Didn’t do much as get a single apex mount much less a radiant one. Thus I did not buy the new crown crates this time around. Should everything in crown crates go back to being for sale with crowns only? Let me know your thoughts. Only way to make a change is to get enough people to voice their opinions

    5000 crowns for a radiant mount? Well, yes, who wouldnt want that? But somehow I dont think thats the way it would go. I will explain.
    I personally have no problem with the crates, and dont care one way or another if they stay or go.
    I admit, I dont agree with most anti-crate arguments. In fact, the only one I sort of understand is is the one that claims if the crates didnt exist we would be buying these items as a sure thing (not a gamble) in the crown store. But I see those who claim this as divided into two camps, whether they realize it or not.
    The one side, those who believe without crates they would be able to buy their Shadow Senche or whatever in the crown store for 50 usd, well I really dont know what to say to you, so Im just going to direct my next thoughts and ask a question to the more realistic camp.

    I understand what youre saying. Myself, Im not a gambler. I dont buy crates. Its not that I cant afford them, its just that when I pull money out of my wallet its only for a sure thing. I want to know ahead of time what I will be getting. I leave nothing to luck, because I know from experience that lady seems to greatly dislike me, and messes with me for fun.
    So yes, I would love to be able to purchase a radiant apex whatever straight up from the store and avoid the luck aspect of it. But at the same time, I wonder is this really fair? I could see them selling the pretty glowing red kitty for 70k crowns in the store, and of course, those who want it will buy it. Theyll be happy.
    But the ones who want it but cant afford it? Is it fair for them? The way it is now, everyone has fairly equal shot at the kitty no matter if they have only their free crates, or they purchase 1000 of them. You are asking to change the system from one based on luck to one based purely on money. Well, I know from my past experience with luck which way I would like it to be, but again I still wonder which is more fair for the majority?
    And for those in first camp who are now hyperventilating and outraged at the thought of 500 usd mounts in the store, I dont know an exact figure, but know this, its not going to be cheap (forget the 50 dollar mount ideas). ZOS loses its crates, the store prices on desirable items will increase severely, not just to make up for the loss of income, but to also maintain some exclusivity of the item. The fact that the item is out of reach for the common riff raff is going to be appealing to many big spenders, and they know this just as they know some players dont care about such things, they just know what they want and yes, they will pay those prices.
    Dont believe me? Look at the OP here as just one example. He spent 60k crowns trying to obtain a cold fire wolf. He didnt get it. Now at that time, if ZOS approached him and told him, spend 10k more crowns and we guarantee you will get your wolf mount, do you think he would have gone for it? I suspect he would.
    So, Im curious, is this really what those who are anti-crates are really asking for?


  • ktdotexe
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  • dsalter
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    agegarton wrote: »
    I don’t want them gone, but I do want a better chance at getting good items and I’d like to see fewer trash items in the mix.

    agreed, just remove the common tier and swap out consumables of dumb things like mimics, research, etc with reskinned critters.
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  • Jade1986
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    PetiteFire wrote: »
    I'm voting no because I know this is where ZOS' profit lies, I love this game and would hate for it to be shut down like various other MMOs that I have played.

    Tons of other games have the same concept of items for real cash. I only buy what I feel like buying and can afford at the time. I don't go out of my way to buy crown crates - I literally buy the pack of 4 at most if there's something I want to get - and I barely buy anything from the crown store, again, unless it's something I really want.

    If you don't want to purchase crown crates, don't. If you do, then go for it. As long as you can afford it and are not getting yourself into debt, what you choose to spend your money is just that - Your choice. It doesn't matter how much you scream 'it's a rip-off!!", people are ultimately going to do what they want with ther money.

    Crown items are not a critical part of the gameplay. You can play this entire game for free without a single crown store purchase. So I don't understand why people are so angry. It's merely for vanity items.

    mmoRPG. And most of the RP things are in the store, and the BEST RP stuff is in the crates. So it is sorta important. People seem to forget this is an RPG
  • Shanjijri
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    I'd like to choose what I buy. It's ok if they put old crown store items in it, like the sabre cats or the scholar personality, because we had the choice to get them before (unless you're a new player), but not really with items you can't get if you don't buy 34849 crates.

    I like the idea of the surprise, you don't know what you'll got, but not in that way.
  • LadyAstrum
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    LadyAstrum wrote: »
    I'd rather expensive, limited-time direct purchases over the (tweekable) RNG drop rates of crown crates. At least you know what you're getting, but hat's off to ZoS, they manage to entice those with loose wallets (and loose minds) to part with their cash.

    Y'know, there is no reason, other than pure cussedness, to call people who do enjoy a go with crates derisory names. Because you don't care for them, for whatever reason, does not make those who do buy them and enjoy them "loose minded" or "brain dead" or any of the other terms.

    Really, it's fine to dislike/hate them, but it's not needed to be snarky at those who do.

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  • ktdotexe
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    Edited by ktdotexe on July 11, 2019 4:46PM
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