Do you want crown crates gone?

WikileaksEU · March 2018

Yes

Yes , remove all the crown crates and introduce farm in game. Playing should reward , not buying crown crates.

Juju_beans · March 2018

No one is forced to buy crates. That is totally optional and not required to play the game.

vyndral13preub18_ESO · March 2018

Yes

Vimora wrote: »

As far as I'm concerned, Crown Crates are a perfect way to keep the game healthy. They seem to work well for ZOS as we haven't seen any p2w or much p4convenience in the game so far, which is... trust me, it's huge!

You can't point to a game with a better business model. You just can't.

Don't go full entitlement, because you will destroy this game.

I would rather see them sell equipment and level 50 characters and champion points. Because again, I would like to be able to flat out pay for things I want. Not randomly gamble for them.

DieAlteHexe · March 2018

No

vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

Vimora wrote: »

As far as I'm concerned, Crown Crates are a perfect way to keep the game healthy. They seem to work well for ZOS as we haven't seen any p2w or much p4convenience in the game so far, which is... trust me, it's huge!

You can't point to a game with a better business model. You just can't.

Don't go full entitlement, because you will destroy this game.

I would rather see them sell equipment and level 50 characters and champion points. Because again, I would like to be able to flat out pay for things I want. Not randomly gamble for them.

Here's the thing...they can do both. I think it would be a good idea to increase the stuff that can be bought with gold (and ease up on the "LIMITED TIME OFFER OMG OMG" stuff. Then those who want to spend gold, can. Those who want to try their luck with crates, can.

Shadowasrial · March 2018

Yes

At the very least we can try to convince them to have a crown price for all crown crates as well as gems at least then it’s less gambling and a bit more choice.

ParaNostram · March 2018

Yes

As long as it makes the publishers and shareholders money though it's not going away. Doesn't matter what the players or developers say, if the [redacted] with the money who call the shots want it here it stays. Only way to make it go away is to make it no longer profitable but let's face it, this player base has little self control it would seem when it comes to shiny nonsense.

Sabbathius · March 2018

Yes

Yes, I want them gone.

If you want to sell digital ponies, sell digital ponies. But leave gambling and addiction exploitation out of it.

Elvent · March 2018

Yes

I would rather change my vote to no vote at all but I guess there's no option to remove my vote.

I don't like crown crates but I understand why Zenimax does it, they rely on these crates, subscriptions and shop items for income to keep the game going and content coming. I have a feeling there's not enough subscribers alone to keep the game and development going.

I will never purchase crates but I guess I'm glad there's a lot of others that do, I would like to think all that extra income is going to game development. I love this game and have been around since the Beta, Zenimax has come a long way from how I remember it, so much improvement. I want the game to improve even more and become even better than it is now.

I try to show my support by subscribing and buying all the mounts, pets and costumes they add to the shop. I haven't purchased any crates as that's not something I support but as a subscriber I would love to see another way to get these items besides a lottery crate.

Aesthier · March 2018

Yes

Seen enough "lucky boxes" in my day to know better than to buy them.

I would gladly pay 1500 or 3000 or perhaps even 5000 crowns for something I want specifically instead of dumping 5 times that into crates that are statistically bad odds.

Tapio75 · March 2018

No

They are part of games income, that keeps the game going. They serve a purpose because players are too foolish not to play subscriber games anymore.

Though i understand, that people are jealous about flashy stuff in crates, im pretty sure that these things would never be here without the crates so i suggest you just stop being jealous and carry on.

I dont generally like these things at all, but this is the gaming you scrooges have created, live with it.

notyuu · March 2018

No

as much as I hate crown crates as a whole, I must simply state that if they were removed from the game then the alternate methods of making a similar level of money to the crates would be...well, scummy, think literal p2w or putting huge paywalls in (last mmo i played was a example of these, profit dropped so they introduced a setup where you had to pay to get a custom class, which was both paywall as *** and p2w to say the least of it...and i don't wanna see eso end up like that)

Nyladreas · March 2018

Yes

notyuu wrote: »

as much as I hate crown crates as a whole, I must simply state that if they were removed from the game then the alternate methods of making a similar level of money to the crates would be...well, scummy, think literal p2w or putting huge paywalls in (last mmo i played was a example of these, profit dropped so they introduced a setup where you had to pay to get a custom class, which was both paywall as *** and p2w to say the least of it...and i don't wanna see eso end up like that)

Try to think more outside the box. There are far far far simpler and better ways to keep profits flooding in while making the playerbase happier. Read my post and think real hard about it.

Thevampirenight · March 2018

At least they have another option means of getting the items. They should raise the crown gem rate. They are not as predatory as others that use the lootboxe system because you can in fact get what you want by saving up crown gems and trading in the garbage items. As for the price of the crates they should lower them to half the price 200 gems would be the best. They still would make money because people will in fact buy them. I do want to see them return items that were in previous crates or do a repeat of each crown crate cycle. The system isn't that bad compared to the ridiculous prices for housing and furniture.

The crown crate system should stay if they reduce the price for buying the crates and also another thing they need to do is make the limited time crown items seasonal instead of limited. So we can buy them without having to take a gamble. Say this and this house is a spring time purchase then the summer would have another rotation of possible buy able houses. Instead of this limited time then never to be seen again for a while crap that they seem to be fond of doing for some reason.

TheShadowScout · March 2018

Yes

Shadowasrial wrote: »

Do you want crown crates gone?

Yeah, duh!
But I'm not gonne hold my breath, because I also won't refrain from buying them to farm the gems I require to get the neat new hats or other stuff I want.
And as long as they make profit from it, I doubt they would change things.
...
But if they ever do, and throw out the gambling crates and make everything just plain crown store purchasable, I will be there to rejoice and spend crowns on stuff!

Thevampirenight · March 2018

Well I doubt they will get rid of the system unless they are forced too. If governments and states start going after games that have such a system in place.The fact Eso has the option of buying the items with crowngems from saving them up from crowncrates might be able to get them off the hook it might not.
They might not be effected by the laws much even if they are they might have to make considerations and work with the goverments or states or they might have to by law remove them all together if they really crack down on the practice. As some states and Germany might try and outright ban them altogether. They might have to remove the crowncrates from the Eu servers if they become strict on it and get rid of them otherwise they won't be removed since it makes them money.

Skua · March 2018

Yes

I don't really like them all that much as they are. The consumables are completely useless to me for the most part and it makes them less fun to open when it keeps giving you the same tattoo or emote repeatedly. I would enjoy crates that always felt like I got my money's worth out of them since getting a surprise can be fun.

Bbsample197 · March 2018

No opinion

whether you like it or not lootboxes are there to stay, i havent spent a dime on any lootboxes and never will. Its your problem if your an impulse buyer, its your problem if you spent waaay too much money on something that has a percentage factor, no one is to blame but you.

You can ignore the crown crates or be an irresponsible person and spent your entire lifesaving on thos damn crate i couldnt care any less. by the end of the day whether you got the item that you want, its a win for ZoS either way.

vyndral13preub18_ESO · March 2018

Yes

Skua wrote: »

I don't really like them all that much as they are. The consumables are completely useless to me for the most part and it makes them less fun to open when it keeps giving you the same tattoo or emote repeatedly. I would enjoy crates that always felt like I got my money's worth out of them since getting a surprise can be fun.

This is also part of my dislike for them. I don’t like gambling for them. I like it even less when like 98% of the stuff that comes out of them is close to junk. Oh boy more potions 1 gem.

Lylith · March 2018

Kendaric wrote: »

Yes, I want them gone or at least changed in a way that allows players to turn any unwanted items into gems, not just doubles and consumables.

^this^

WuffyCerulei · March 2018

No

These darn things are completely optional to buy. You guys DON'T HAVE TO BUY THEM.

drkfrontiers · March 2018

No

The Apex mounts cost 400 gems. For Xmas I bought myself 10000 crowns worth of crates. At the end of it I had nearly enough gems to buy 2x Apex mounts. Radiant would have been nice, but not getting it did not take about from all the nice things I did get.

vyndral13preub18_ESO · March 2018

Yes

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

These darn things are completely optional to buy. You guys DON'T HAVE TO BUY THEM.

But they do hide a large part of what I like about MMOs and rpgs in them. Which is why I think they should include weapons/armor sets and upgrade materials in them. Of course they would have to make them unqique sets since the crates hold unique cosmetics but I don’t see why that would be a problem. It is only fair. Why should only people who enjoy cosmetics have to pay for the game upkeep. Since that is what everyone claims these crates are for. And you wouldn’t have to buy them.

BlueViolet · March 2018

Yes

I hate crates. Primarily because everything special & creative goes into them. I said when they announced them that the focus of creating really wonderful items would be to put them all in crates, and they have.

No longer does the crown store seem to have anything decent in it. Just a few quickly made over costumes, or a badly reskinned unimaginative mount. The offerings in the store have become progressively poorer since crate introduction.

I always said I would never open crates, but this past event, I did, because I like the Scalecaller mounts.
I think they're the nicest mounts they have introduced so far. They don't flash or burn or sparkle, they just look awesome in a regular non flashy way.
I didn't get a mount but a zombie skin which is okay, but I would still prefer to have my choice of buying one or all of those mounts from the store without having to gamble for it.

I still refuse to pay for crates.

Elsonso · March 2018

Yes

I voted "yes" but that really isn't a realistic answer. They can't.

boombazookajd · March 2018

No

I'm more on the fence. First I thought no but there are some great alternative options in here, so yes. I'd like to see them removed in favor of just being able to buy the contents outright.

Thannazzar · March 2018

No

If you cant aford to gamble, dont. As long as the crate contents stay cosmetic or consumable and not pay to win any funding for the game is good.

DaveMoeDee · March 2018

No opinion

Horowonnoe wrote: »

I just wish crown crates got rid of the consumables and instead had more fun costumes and even house items. Things i would actually want and not just discard upon sight.

Seriously. It used to be in the first seasons, you would get like 3 costumes per crate or fun cosmetic items. Now its the freaking soul gems and useless potions. Like what am i even supposed to do with those? Its a ripoff. I have normal gems from game, like 4k of them in my bank.

WHY would i ever want a crown soul gem? Will it resurrect the entire raid upon a wipe? No? ok then, get that thing out of my sight : <

Obviously 3 costumes in a crate won't be the expected drop rate because they would make more money just selling one costume directly for 1000 crowns.

I don't buy cosmetic items because I have no interest in spending money to make my avatar look fancy, but I do enjoy the 3 free crates that they regularly do. So for me, crates have been a positive thing. On the other hand, I find them deplorable.

ThinkerOfThings · March 2018

Yes

While I am not a fan of the whole crown crate gambling tactic, if I was on the receiving end of the cash flow, I would likely feel differently.

Armatesz · March 2018

Yes

To be fairly honest,
Why I dislike the crown crate system is in its way, intentional or not it still preys upon people's minds that they have to take a chance to get so and so item and they have to pay money for it. Call it what you will but to me that is gambling... if anything that should and must put eso into the same category as said "gambling" department, with same responsibilities as such. As cool as some of the items are, I abhor at the idea of gambling sort of thing. I can understand the revenue sort of thing but at the same time I don't think we need to push to this sort of thing in our lives.

DaveMoeDee · March 2018

No opinion

Shadowmaster wrote: »

Shadowasrial wrote: »

To prove a point I just dropped 100 dollars into the game not 10 minutes ago. No radiant mounts. That’s 2 crown seasons over a 100 bucks each and no radiants. The loot table is too broken if you can spend that much and not get even a single radiant. Now yes it was my choice and I’m blessed to have the income to spend that much per season but it’s a bit extreme that you can spend that much for 2 seasons and not even get 1

In my guild chat there are several people who spent 2x 3x that and got none. And then there is one person who said they spent $50 and got all 3 radiant mounts. Most people bought $75-150 worth of crown crates and anecdotally it sounds like most of them got max 1 frost mount even.

Its literal, actual gambling which is fine but where I struggle is they do not publish the odds. I mean if you come to find out the radiant apex rewards are .0000000001% are you still gonna spend a few hundred on the crates?

Its a business and I get it, but it would be great to see the pretense that actual content is more important than quasi-mobile gambling.

This is why I get annoyed when people claim ZOS would make more money selling directly. ZOS is closely watching these numbers. They know very well how revenue with crowns compares to mount and costume sales back in the day.