ESO Class Representative Program

Thogard · March 2018

This isn’t for balance and wish-list items.

This is for bugs and pain points. Things like the Nightblade shade not working, or DK leap dmg ceasing to exist if target runs outside of leap range mid leap, or stamden having to place trees three or four times due to GCD lag on ground targets, or how shimmering shield interacts with force pulse, or the weird animation glitch when you petrify someone using blessed meridia, how FM doesn’t work on immov poisons, or any of the million weird little animation glitches with WW form or overload... It’s bugs and frustrations specific to classes and roles, not what’s OP and what needs buffs.

BohnT · March 2018

For Sorcs i nominate: @SchwarzerMagier and @MalcolM24 both are extraordinary good players and have been playing sorc for years but they are not biased when it comes to say that certain changes would be way too strong even if it helped them.

Cenom · March 2018

I advice for not taking PvP exclusive players for these positions, since they always have workarounds in PvP due to the vast majority of gear they have avaiable which can fix some deficits of the class; where in PvE there are no such things, if a class is dead in meta, they will remain dead, there are no workarounds, just hope for next year.

Nelson_Rebel · March 2018

I Would like to nominate myself for the DK representative

Not because I'm egotistical. But because I have mained DK for tanking and Dps for stam and magic since launch, I have even healed as one.

I play at competitive endgame levels for both PvE and PvP having accomplished nearly everything in the game as a dk for tanking and dps, I have attained emperor, spent countless hours dueling as one, and tweaking my build for dungeons and trials through every patch and nerf since launch

I know the DK, almost no one better. I know where the class performs well (1v1's) and that endgame PvE it has suffered massively (extensively) for 5 specific DK nerf patches in a row.

The class NEEDS a rework. Its archaic passives and design are inferior to every class right now

caeliusstarbreaker · March 2018

Lord_Zele wrote: »

I vote @caeliusstarbreaker For Stamplar.
and @Irylia for Magsorc.
EZ

Haha yea don’t vote me. I’ll just wind up saying nothing about my class and remind developers how incompetent they are in regards to the design and stability of their game. Class balance and discussion doesn’t mean a thing if you can tell use abilities at 2pm on a week day.

Integral1900 · March 2018

(Hides head in hands) they are going to choose a bunch of meta addicts aren’t they, the kind of ninjas that regard soloing vet dungeons as a fair bench mark....

Oh god please no............

Thogard · March 2018

Integral1900 wrote: »

(Hides head in hands) they are going to choose a bunch of meta addicts aren’t they, the kind of ninjas that regard soloing vet dungeons as a fair bench mark....

Oh god please no............

No.. they’re going to choose diplomatic people who understand that there are two or more sides to every issue. They are going to choose people who know that sometimes the best comment or response is no comment or response at all. And most of all, they’re going to choose people who won’t *** post or get baited into flame wars on the message boards...

This rules out like 95%+ of top tier PvE and PvP players lol

Ragnarock41 · March 2018

Thogard wrote: »

Integral1900 wrote: »

(Hides head in hands) they are going to choose a bunch of meta addicts aren’t they, the kind of ninjas that regard soloing vet dungeons as a fair bench mark....

Oh god please no............

No.. they’re going to choose diplomatic people who understand that there are two or more sides to every issue. They are going to choose people who know that sometimes the best comment or response is no comment or response at all. And most of all, they’re going to choose people who won’t *** post or get baited into flame wars on the message boards...

This rules out like 95%+ of top tier PvE and PvP players lol

exactly.

Tasear · March 2018

Hope it's not just a group of dps representatives

Avran_Sylt · March 2018

Tasear wrote: »

Hope it's not just a group of dps representatives

@Tasear

Even if they are, make sure to let them know about your concerns! A representative is not omniscient and aware of all faults or issues. They need to work with the community, and the community with them, in order to cover as broad a range as possible

ak_pvp · March 2018

Lets be real, its going to be via popular vote, so it'll go to streamers/popular people in the community.

cjhhickman39 · March 2018

One thing you should consider adding an extra voice,the brand new player.
Reason to invite one would be to understand how they see the game and to help make the mechanics of the game easier to pick up and quest lines less complicated

eso_lags · March 2018

Can we get something like this for the over all game? maybe like 5 pvp and 5 pve players to give you some insight on some issues that are plaguing this game?

Marabornwingrion · March 2018

Malamar1229 wrote: »

clv wrote: »

Malamar1229 wrote: »

Voxicity wrote: »

Malamar1229 wrote: »

Set an age limit.

Oh and obviously about half the names listed already I'm pretty sure have been banned at some point.

Quite honestly not keen about this community representation being in the hands of a bunch of 19 year olds.

Lord of the Flies online IMO.

#SorcLivesMatter is exactly the kind of thing I'd expect from a 19 year old's signature

Not really. I've got at least 17 years on that assumption. That is an old Sig from the dark brotherhood era when sorc was arguably at it's lowest point. Not at all indicative of maturity or age...don't be bitter. Millennials are well known for their "what are you going to do for me" attitude and the kids in this game have as much integrity as a Ford. No thank you,

attacking a playerbase for their assumed age is pretty indicative of maturity. literally zero reason to insert your anti-millenial agenda in here when it has nothing to do with the topic at hand?

Well it does. Don't miss the carpet next time. Quite clearly stated we don't want a bunch of 19 yr old representatives. It's also quite clear you don't PvP because there's an age group that brings toxicity to a new level...and I'll give you a guess at that age group.

Nope, YOU don't want them.
I have no problem with 19 year old representative if he knows the game and class he plays.

Marabornwingrion · March 2018

cjhhickman39 wrote: »

One thing you should consider adding an extra voice,the brand new player.
Reason to invite one would be to understand how they see the game and to help make the mechanics of the game easier to pick up and quest lines less complicated

Less complicated?
You know that 99% quests in this game are like: "Talk to X, go to Y, pick up 3 flowers, go back to X"?

Huyen · March 2018

If this is going to be like the in-game skill advisor, I have to disagree with the whole idea. The people who worked on the skill-advisor were the youtube guys (who got paid to make them vids) and are like 0.01% of the playerbase. If this idea goes through the community as a whole will be ignored for the sake of a few people. The Devs should have the best knowledge about the classes, and they should make these guides in the first place. To me this sounds like another budget-cut because Matt needs another car.

That being said: even if they are working with ZoS, every damn update brings so many changes to the meta and often the skills, it would make zero sense.

Edit for typos

aetherial_heavenn · March 2018

Thogard wrote: »

This isn’t for balance and wish-list items.

This is for bugs and pain points. Things like the Nightblade shade not working, or DK leap dmg ceasing to exist if target runs outside of leap range mid leap, or stamden having to place trees three or four times due to GCD lag on ground targets, or how shimmering shield interacts with force pulse, or the weird animation glitch when you petrify someone using blessed meridia, how FM doesn’t work on immov poisons, or any of the million weird little animation glitches with WW form or overload... It’s bugs and frustrations specific to classes and roles, not what’s OP and what needs buffs.

In addition to the main nominees mentioned earlier, someone with detailed bug knowledge or someone with willingness to collate such knowledge seems like a useful addition.

AdamBourke · March 2018

Can i nominate myself as someone whose pain point is that classes exist at all?

dodgehopper_ESO · March 2018

I'm glad they're doing something like this. My main concern is that every class gets the Tank-Healer-Damage Dealer (Stam/Mag) review. One of the ideas that have come into my own mind regarding this is that perhaps more morph choices could divert the player off more clearly in these directions. In some cases I do believe it would be nice if they added a couple of Stamina Morphs to the game. Among these Stamina Morphs I've been a proponent for:

Sorcerer: Bound Weapons: Instead of an aoe hard cast Crystal Frags, why not cause the Storc to pull out a Bound Axe/Sword/whatever and slam it down upon their enemy. This isn't necessary by any stretch but it certainly would be cool and match theme.

Nightblade: has plenty of stam morphs as far as I know.

DK: I would love to see a stamina whip.

Templar: Stamina charge, non-glitch charges overall, and non-competitive repentance.

Warden: Plenty Stam Morphs already.

I'd love to put in my 2 cents on the topic of Templars particularly when it comes to the theme of the class. I've played them as Tank, StamDD, MagDD, and Healers. I'm not going to say I'm the best by any stretch but I'm very familiar with the class and its abilities. My main concern is about the actual fun of it. I hate asking the devs to 'go back to the drawing board' on the Charge animation but I really do believe they should do so. I know that they've worked on this skill a number of times but it has had a lot of problems over the years and given its iconic look it really should be more functional. (Just watch the intro of Troy where Achilles fights the giant). I would love to see a Spear+Shield or Longspear/Polearm weapon be added to the game as it would also really add to the theme of this class. The theme of Templar is ripe for a lot of neat playstyles: Priest/Healer, Restoration/Destruction mage, Crusading Knight, Imperial Hoplite, and so on. I truly believe most classes need to take a hard look at the fun factor but Templar probably needs the most stringent look at this issue (and always has).

Pelican · March 2018

Gonna be interesting to see who gets chosen

nightstrike · March 2018

Huyen wrote: »

The people who worked on the skill-advisor were the youtube guys (who got paid to make them vids)

Is that really true?

monktoasty · March 2018

How is a couple people representing a whole class?

Just read the forums for pain points or Institute a survey in game for rewards for taking it.

Pain points are subjective..I don't know a lot so my pain points will be different. Like the pain of starting pvp.

cjhhickman39 · March 2018

Astrid_V comment is exactly why I suggested that a new player be asked to comment also , with one tamerial all areas open it is easier to lose you chain for factions mage and fighters guild from some of the more resent comments I’ve read from new players.
I started at console launch and staying on track was easy but with new players maybe not so much

Drdeath20 · March 2018

Im just a nobody who wants the game to be better but there are quite a few posters on the forum who take time to test problems, can identify the problems and articulate the problems and identity solutions.

With that being said im guessing this is the developers way of saying "you have a problem with this class, well go deal with the representative"

I doubt they are willing to take input from us and furthermore i believe they already identified 10 people they want to deal with these problems.

With that being said i hope fengrush is far away from this.

CavalryPK · March 2018

@Gilliamtherogue and @NightbladeMechanics

For magblades.

Any one wanna count how many times people recommended them ?

zParallaxz · March 2018

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Im just a nobody who wants the game to be better but there are quite a few posters on the forum who take time to test problems, can identify the problems and articulate the problems and identity solutions.

With that being said im guessing this is the developers way of saying "you have a problem with this class, well go deal with the representative"

I doubt they are willing to take input from us and furthermore i believe they already identified 10 people they want to deal with these problems.

With that being said i hope fengrush is far away from this.

What’s wrong with Fengrush? People like Fengrush and me leave due to the same reasons that are fixable but ignored

Thogard · March 2018

zParallaxz wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Im just a nobody who wants the game to be better but there are quite a few posters on the forum who take time to test problems, can identify the problems and articulate the problems and identity solutions.

With that being said im guessing this is the developers way of saying "you have a problem with this class, well go deal with the representative"

I doubt they are willing to take input from us and furthermore i believe they already identified 10 people they want to deal with these problems.

With that being said i hope fengrush is far away from this.

What’s wrong with Fengrush? People like Fengrush and me leave due to the same reasons that are fixable but ignored

Can’t answer that question without starting a MASSIVE forum battle with his devotees.

He seems like a nice enough guy though.

Cadbury · March 2018

zParallaxz wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Im just a nobody who wants the game to be better but there are quite a few posters on the forum who take time to test problems, can identify the problems and articulate the problems and identity solutions.

With that being said im guessing this is the developers way of saying "you have a problem with this class, well go deal with the representative"

I doubt they are willing to take input from us and furthermore i believe they already identified 10 people they want to deal with these problems.

With that being said i hope fengrush is far away from this.

What’s wrong with Fengrush? People like Fengrush and me leave due to the same reasons that are fixable but ignored

We don't speak of "The Incident" here...

Dredlord · March 2018

I nominate Cinbri for Templar rep as well

Knowledgeable, puts the time in to test things and fairly unbiased.

Dredlord · March 2018

zParallaxz wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Im just a nobody who wants the game to be better but there are quite a few posters on the forum who take time to test problems, can identify the problems and articulate the problems and identity solutions.

With that being said im guessing this is the developers way of saying "you have a problem with this class, well go deal with the representative"

I doubt they are willing to take input from us and furthermore i believe they already identified 10 people they want to deal with these problems.

With that being said i hope fengrush is far away from this.

What’s wrong with Fengrush? People like Fengrush and me leave due to the same reasons that are fixable but ignored

He is great at identifying problems but his solutions are terrible due to how biased he is...