@Exodium a heavy amount depends on the skill of the people you are fighting. I've easily taken on 3-4 bads
I'm not logged on right now so I don't know off the top how long minor maim last when it's placed from fear or shade
I don't have shade on my bar b/c I got use to not having it & im not going to waste resources fearing when they have cc immunity.
I do have a straight damage 2h/resto build but I'm not sure if I want to mention it. I will say I've pushed out imo what is the maximum amount of damage as possible for a 2h build & my assassin's will was critting on mobs for over 42k & im not even sure if all my buffs were up.
The problem with straight damage is there is some type of diminishing returns, where you won't be able to 1 shot people like stamina builds can; it's more like 2-3 shot at best.
Last I tested fear only applies the snare or the maim to targets that get CC’ed. It also has an RNG element to determine who to CC when multiple opponents are present and does not prioritize non-CC immune opponents. As a result the maim that it applies has low uptime in outnumbered scenarios. This is also why a sorc using streak is a much more efficient way to CC any number of opponents greater than 2.
Imo, Mass Hysteria is a rather poor skill right now and the other morph is outright superior given the way that NB is played. Even perma blockers have to drop block to deal with kiting, which even a melee NB does to some extent.
I've never actually seen the other morph being used. What's it look like? Is there an animation or is it a trap on the floor? I've literally never seen it or tried it lol
@Exodium a heavy amount depends on the skill of the people you are fighting. I've easily taken on 3-4 bads
I'm not logged on right now so I don't know off the top how long minor maim last when it's placed from fear or shade
I don't have shade on my bar b/c I got use to not having it & im not going to waste resources fearing when they have cc immunity.
I do have a straight damage 2h/resto build but I'm not sure if I want to mention it. I will say I've pushed out imo what is the maximum amount of damage as possible for a 2h build & my assassin's will was critting on mobs for over 42k & im not even sure if all my buffs were up.
The problem with straight damage is there is some type of diminishing returns, where you won't be able to 1 shot people like stamina builds can; it's more like 2-3 shot at best.
Last I tested fear only applies the snare or the maim to targets that get CC’ed. It also has an RNG element to determine who to CC when multiple opponents are present and does not prioritize non-CC immune opponents. As a result the maim that it applies has low uptime in outnumbered scenarios. This is also why a sorc using streak is a much more efficient way to CC any number of opponents greater than 2.
Imo, Mass Hysteria is a rather poor skill right now and the other morph is outright superior given the way that NB is played. Even perma blockers have to drop block to deal with kiting, which even a melee NB does to some extent.
I've never actually seen the other morph being used. What's it look like? Is there an animation or is it a trap on the floor? I've literally never seen it or tried it lol
I've duelled some players that were using the other morph of fear on my magblade during the past month or so, and I literally never got stunned by it. They might've not known how to use it though, so that's that hahaha.
I actually dropped riposte last night and went shackle/necro again, and yo be frank I haven't even felt the difference between riposte and no riposte now that shade is working. The main reason I was using riposte was due to shade not working turning me into a shieldstacking turtle, but now...
I'll swap to my sorc build later on, I feel like 18.4k stam would work wonders on magblade, especially with much easier nightblade sustain.
Also; how do you feel about impale? I have been running it and it throws up pretty numbers when it hits at 25% health or below but does doing 10-15k damage on a target who only has 5k left really worthwhile? I suppose maybe if they have healing ward popped but Im debating it. Such a small window for the execute.
How are you all liking the new Assassins Will? I had so much trouble with it yesterday. Light attack weaves generating the stacks feel way more clunky and while I am kiting around and cloaking, if I just started the buff, it seemed like it wanted to fall off if I wasn't getting hit or attacking.
Waffennacht wrote: »I still stand by my build.
War maiden, wizards riposte, 1 domi, 1 shadowrend (can easily swap for 2 grothdar or 1 pirate 1 chudan situationally)
2h/resto 5 light, 1, 1
Jewelry enchants: 1reduce cost, 1recovery, 1sp dmg
IMO if you need so many regen/reduc on u'r jewels, better go amberplasm instead of maiden and full spell damage jewels, more damage and it's even better for you'r full heal build ><
Amberplasm is not a good 1 bar set though.
I don't think I'll change much on my builds either though, shackle/necro/domi and riposte/shackle/vMA resto/domi are the ones I like the most atm so I'll stick with them.
I was talking about his build, he have 5 healing bonus (forward/path/sap/healing ward/light's champion)
maiden only increase damage and he seem to need regen with his jewels glyphs, so basically he have only 129+173 spell damage for his defensive skills
amberplasm give same stats but huge regen instead of damage, but he can change his 2 regen jewels for 2 spell damage glyph
so he would have 129+(173*3) spell damage for his offensive AND defensive skills
also more healing = less spam defensive skills, maybe he will be able to use kena or 1 max mag monster helm instead of shadowrend only with that change
I see only benefits for him to play this way, that's all
also amber in 1 bar can be used with willpower + 2(or 2*1) monster sets for the 5/1/1 bonus, similar to necro with shadow and better than maiden because you would be in 6/1/0
I agree that amberplasm is a good set and I know how it works, but the guy was running maiden/riposte and 2 monster sets. You can't replace anything in there with amber without either having it on one bar or dropping a monster set piece.
So basically if you wanna go 5/5/2 like the guy in question, amberplasm is a bad choice. Amberplasm is good for 5/2/3/1 or 5/5/1.
I’m testing amber+Lich with vma resto and 1 domi for no-CP
Aye that might be strong, amber is most definitely better than shackle in noCP imo. I'll probably go amber/riposte/domi/vMA resto for my noCP build as well. Or maybe lich instead of riposte if sustain is really that bad, I haven't played noCP in quite a while so I don't know hahaha.
Imo, even though technically Riposte gets better in no CP, it's less useful as the defense provided maybe over kill, especially when talking about a build as strong as mNB.
You'll probably have more success with Lich.
Riposte is only overkill 1v1 against bads
If you fight against 3+ bads or have at least 1 good player you're going against; it's well worth it.
How are you all liking the new Assassins Will? I had so much trouble with it yesterday. Light attack weaves generating the stacks feel way more clunky and while I am kiting around and cloaking, if I just started the buff, it seemed like it wanted to fall off if I wasn't getting hit or attacking.
Also; how do you feel about impale? I have been running it and it throws up pretty numbers when it hits at 25% health or below but does doing 10-15k damage on a target who only has 5k left really worthwhile? I suppose maybe if they have healing ward popped but Im debating it. Such a small window for the execute.
SpiderCultist wrote: »How are you all liking the new Assassins Will? I had so much trouble with it yesterday. Light attack weaves generating the stacks feel way more clunky and while I am kiting around and cloaking, if I just started the buff, it seemed like it wanted to fall off if I wasn't getting hit or attacking.
Also; how do you feel about impale? I have been running it and it throws up pretty numbers when it hits at 25% health or below but does doing 10-15k damage on a target who only has 5k left really worthwhile? I suppose maybe if they have healing ward popped but Im debating it. Such a small window for the execute.
You'll be weaving anyway and it gives 8% extra dmg plus a very hard hitting proc.
Impale is alright for battlegrounds.
SpiderCultist wrote: »How are you all liking the new Assassins Will? I had so much trouble with it yesterday. Light attack weaves generating the stacks feel way more clunky and while I am kiting around and cloaking, if I just started the buff, it seemed like it wanted to fall off if I wasn't getting hit or attacking.
Also; how do you feel about impale? I have been running it and it throws up pretty numbers when it hits at 25% health or below but does doing 10-15k damage on a target who only has 5k left really worthwhile? I suppose maybe if they have healing ward popped but Im debating it. Such a small window for the execute.
You'll be weaving anyway and it gives 8% extra dmg plus a very hard hitting proc.
Impale is alright for battlegrounds.
Yeah; I wouldn't consider taking Will off. Was just curious if others were having the issue or if it was just me.
Guys sersous question here.
After 8 scalecaller runs i found a caluurions destro, still no 1h or 2h sword.
My question now. Would this set also work on a range magblade?
If yes would u rather go caluurions front, lich back and 2 skoria or caluurions + amber/shackle and 1 domi?
Plz help
The only thing holding me back from using my magblade more is having to use pots all the time for the 20% damage. Hate it.
Yes thats true. Since im only playing no cp it coul be still strong. ill try itGuys sersous question here.
After 8 scalecaller runs i found a caluurions destro, still no 1h or 2h sword.
My question now. Would this set also work on a range magblade?
If yes would u rather go caluurions front, lich back and 2 skoria or caluurions + amber/shackle and 1 domi?
Plz help
Not as much but you can try it.
It will proc but it has a long travel which is easy to dodge. The point of melee is so they aren't able to dodge the proc
Caluurion+Spinner's & Kena+Domi gankblade
Caluurion+Spinner's & Kena+Domi gankblade
Is caluurion that good for ganking though? From what I've experiencing dueling absolute cancer both on the duel spot and in cyro, it has a telegraph that basically doesn't allow it to proc in an instakill combo.
I might be mistaken, but either way mag proc sets are extremely cancer.
Caluurion+Spinner's & Kena+Domi gankblade
Is caluurion that good for ganking though? From what I've experiencing dueling absolute cancer both on the duel spot and in cyro, it has a telegraph that basically doesn't allow it to proc in an instakill combo.
I might be mistaken, but either way mag proc sets are extremely cancer.
Cloak/Stealth->Lotus Fan(Proc triggers)+Concealed Weapon(Stun, Proc lands)->Assassin's Will
Don't even need an ultimate to burst most people :P
Caluurion+Spinner's & Kena+Domi gankblade
Is caluurion that good for ganking though? From what I've experiencing dueling absolute cancer both on the duel spot and in cyro, it has a telegraph that basically doesn't allow it to proc in an instakill combo.
I might be mistaken, but either way mag proc sets are extremely cancer.
Cloak/Stealth->Lotus Fan(Proc triggers)+Concealed Weapon(Stun, Proc lands)->Assassin's Will
Don't even need an ultimate to burst most people :P
Do you need to have an mlg <100 ping in order to pull off the leap > concealed stun? I never actually played any sort of melee nightblade builds (except for when I played meta heavy stamblade a while back).