@ZOS_Wrobel nice fixes planned for Templars. Did you guys already had time to look into this 3rd templar-DPS-Bug: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/385501/bug-power-of-the-light-not-doing-any-damage-at-the-end#latest

and thx for your list of bugfixes included in next update, made me really happy

ZOS_Wrobel wrote: »

@cinbri
We can add abilities to the exception list for interrupt. For example the resurrect ability doesn’t get immunity since being able to stop it is a core part of our gameplay.

@casparian
We have a fix for the bug where Puncturing Sweeps doesn’t stack correctly with damage taken bonuses. We have identified a bug with Radiant Oppression where it’s damage bonus is being calculated additively with the execute damage instead of multiplicatively.

@bohnt
Defile is a buff category so players should only be able to have 1 Minor Defile and 1 Major defile at a time. Could you provide more information on the Defile Stacking issue?

@scipionumatia
Block cost will be reduced by 20% so it will be a buff for everyone who’s not using cost reduction jewelry.

@davidj8291
We’re working on making big group battles more tactical so players focus on spreading their positioning instead of moving as 1 large ball.

So, is the focus for game play being funneled into small groups? If so, will the grouping be changed from 24 man down to 12 or smaller?

Juhasow wrote: »

Gravord wrote: »

rush1776 wrote: »

Magicka dds should hit harder..

Why is that exactly? Is your magicka pool used for dodging and blocking? Do you have to stay in melee range all the time to do any real damage? Does stam dds have access to 2 stam steal as magicka users to mag steal? Can stam users cast absorbs higher than their health pool to ignore mechanics?

That comment is kinda mendacious.

Yes stamina characters using same resource to dodge roll and block and to deal dmg but magicka characters use the same resource to cast shields and do dmg so both side using both resources to defense. All stamina characters are using magicka abilities to utilize their builds most of the time to improve their survivality same as magicka characters using block/roll dodge.

Staying in melee range is not that big problem for stamina characters since in trials most of the fights is done uder boss and time when people need to split for few seconds can be used to refresh back bar bow rotation and even despite the fact sometimes they cant dmg from melee at the end their single target is still higher. In PvP beeing melee DD also isnt a problems since You have gap closers , LoS and many other ways to reduce distance between You and magicka enemie.

Minor magicka steal for magicka characters is compensation for the fact that all base costs of stamina abilities are lower then magicka abilities and also every stamina weapon tree have passive lowering it abilities costs so magicka characters need magicka steel to be on pair with stamina characters.

Currently in many group contents it's much easier to ignore mechanics when You come with more stam DD's that will melt bosses down because they have much higher single target DPS which will allow to bypass mechanics totally. Also shields currently in trials are in many situations weaker defensive then Deadly Cloak which is part of rotation and lowers incoming dmg so much that sometimes stamina character using it can take less dmg then fully shielded magicka character (good example is dual wield boss in vet AS) not mentioning magicka character needs to cast shields outside the rotation excatly when he takes the dmg which messes up rotation and resource managment when stamina character can just keep up Deadly Cloak as part of the rotation and dont care about anything else and sometimes only need to use Vigor.

Half of the gap closers is unreliable in pvp. Most ranged magicka classes have access to movement utylity aswell. Most ranged abilities hit on pair or better than melee skills (perma proccing frags with in build cc and no cast time, compare that to wreck blow, with its pitiful range and how easy is to mess up cast by little movement). Frags have dmg buff and cc in same morph, while wreck was split over two different morphs.
Dodge cost increased on spam, yet absorbs doesnt. Spamming easy defense for amount higher than magicka user health pool while also being fully protected from critical hits.
As for pve goes stam dds were unwelcome for over 2 years of game time, now they are finally usefull. Their slight overperforming comes mainly from well too high benefit from vMA bow (with Hail delivering dmg on pair of 3 next dots combined) add dual wield speed advantage in heavy attacks.

Drakkdjinn wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

Gravord wrote: »

rush1776 wrote: »

Magicka dds should hit harder..

Why is that exactly? Is your magicka pool used for dodging and blocking? Do you have to stay in melee range all the time to do any real damage? Does stam dds have access to 2 stam steal as magicka users to mag steal? Can stam users cast absorbs higher than their health pool to ignore mechanics?

That comment is kinda mendacious.

Yes stamina characters using same resource to dodge roll and block and to deal dmg but magicka characters use the same resource to cast shields and do dmg so both side using both resources to defense. All stamina characters are using magicka abilities to utilize their builds most of the time to improve their survivality same as magicka characters using block/roll dodge.

Staying in melee range is not that big problem for stamina characters since in trials most of the fights is done uder boss and time when people need to split for few seconds can be used to refresh back bar bow rotation and even despite the fact sometimes they cant dmg from melee at the end their single target is still higher. In PvP beeing melee DD also isnt a problems since You have gap closers , LoS and many other ways to reduce distance between You and magicka enemie.

Minor magicka steal for magicka characters is compensation for the fact that all base costs of stamina abilities are lower then magicka abilities and also every stamina weapon tree have passive lowering it abilities costs so magicka characters need magicka steel to be on pair with stamina characters.

Currently in many group contents it's much easier to ignore mechanics when You come with more stam DD's that will melt bosses down because they have much higher single target DPS which will allow to bypass mechanics totally. Also shields currently in trials are in many situations weaker defensive then Deadly Cloak which is part of rotation and lowers incoming dmg so much that sometimes stamina character using it can take less dmg then fully shielded magicka character (good example is dual wield boss in vet AS) not mentioning magicka character needs to cast shields outside the rotation excatly when he takes the dmg which messes up rotation and resource managment when stamina character can just keep up Deadly Cloak as part of the rotation and dont care about anything else and sometimes only need to use Vigor.

Lol no

What's wrong with it?

Juhasow wrote: »

Gravord wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

Gravord wrote: »

rush1776 wrote: »

Magicka dds should hit harder..

Why is that exactly? Is your magicka pool used for dodging and blocking? Do you have to stay in melee range all the time to do any real damage? Does stam dds have access to 2 stam steal as magicka users to mag steal? Can stam users cast absorbs higher than their health pool to ignore mechanics?

That comment is kinda mendacious.

Yes stamina characters using same resource to dodge roll and block and to deal dmg but magicka characters use the same resource to cast shields and do dmg so both side using both resources to defense. All stamina characters are using magicka abilities to utilize their builds most of the time to improve their survivality same as magicka characters using block/roll dodge.

Staying in melee range is not that big problem for stamina characters since in trials most of the fights is done uder boss and time when people need to split for few seconds can be used to refresh back bar bow rotation and even despite the fact sometimes they cant dmg from melee at the end their single target is still higher. In PvP beeing melee DD also isnt a problems since You have gap closers , LoS and many other ways to reduce distance between You and magicka enemie.

Minor magicka steal for magicka characters is compensation for the fact that all base costs of stamina abilities are lower then magicka abilities and also every stamina weapon tree have passive lowering it abilities costs so magicka characters need magicka steel to be on pair with stamina characters.

Currently in many group contents it's much easier to ignore mechanics when You come with more stam DD's that will melt bosses down because they have much higher single target DPS which will allow to bypass mechanics totally. Also shields currently in trials are in many situations weaker defensive then Deadly Cloak which is part of rotation and lowers incoming dmg so much that sometimes stamina character using it can take less dmg then fully shielded magicka character (good example is dual wield boss in vet AS) not mentioning magicka character needs to cast shields outside the rotation excatly when he takes the dmg which messes up rotation and resource managment when stamina character can just keep up Deadly Cloak as part of the rotation and dont care about anything else and sometimes only need to use Vigor.

Base roll dodge cost is lower then cost of Harness Magicka or healing ward also shields doesnt miss full dmg of skill and negative effects applied by it like CC's and debuffs but guess what roll dodge does it. They added dodge roll cost increase because that source of defense was overpowered like hell without it. Yes shields have 100% critical dmg reduction but cant crit and have 0 resistances. In PvP single shield is not higher then Your health in PvE as I previously mentioned despite the fact You can have 25k shield still in most situations deadly cloak is better defensive then shields. Dont belive ? Try it.

How exactly deadly cloak will protect from single target dmg? Absorbs does from every source, cloak only vs mindless aoe spammers.

Also please debate me more how vMA bow buffing Hail out of reason aint a problem here, please do...

simeion wrote: »

There are few ways to get groups to spread out. A few of these ideas are not bad others could be devasting to small group or single play, but let’s be realalistc here, Cyrodiil is supposed to be about large scale war.
1. Only let siege shield mitiagate siege
2. Speed siege up.(not rate of fire but speed of projectile.)
3. All siege causes minor defile
4. Bring back old proxy det(let it scale off targets hit, and scales down for how many is in your group.

Just a few thoughts.

God no. All of that causes only more zergblobs. We had that crap already in game some time ago, where zergs had specialized noobies deploying siege out of pocket in 1s to spam into enemy groups, even groups of 20+ were doing it vs 5-6 ppl because siege outperform their crap dps and require 0 player skills. Same goes for proxy, any attempt to solve blob issue by aoe is doomed by simple fact blobs will be always able to bring more of those aoes.

Juhasow wrote: »

Like I said earlier You can get pretty close DPS to those people get with vMA bow while You're wearing master bow so vMA bow is not the case of single target DPS adventage of stamina characters.

Yeah, almost 20% of total dmg coming from Hail yet you gonna keep instists its not vMA bow... that debate wont take us far.

@ZOS_Wrobel

When will there be a competitive match making system for battlegrounds?
A system where higher rank players will meet each other more often instead of getting matched up with newer/lower skill players is extremely important and is surely a must have since the release of morrowind

Solariken wrote: »

One idea that could be considered for getting people to spread out is a sort of inverse "AOE caps" which cause AOE abilities to scale like Proxy Det but in the opposite direction and based on allies in the area. So for example:

Eye of Flame
Create a cataclysmic storm above you that builds for 2 seconds and then lays waste to all enemies nearby, dealing X magic damage every 1 second for Y seconds. Damage is reduced by Z% for each ally in the area.

This philosophy could be applied to all AOE skills.

I have been thinking of an idea similar to this, but maybe a little more harsh. Whenever more than 1 AOE ability is within the same diameter of an allies AOE there is a chaotic feedback effect that reflects the damage back to the caster. So the more people are AOEing a given spot the more damage they will take from their own AOE. If 4 people are hitting the same spot they would all get hit 3 times by the pulse of their own AOE's. Either would most likely have to be a battle spirit addition as not to affect PVE. Your idea would be less punishing than mine.

Drakkdjinn wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

Gravord wrote: »

rush1776 wrote: »

Magicka dds should hit harder..

Why is that exactly? Is your magicka pool used for dodging and blocking? Do you have to stay in melee range all the time to do any real damage? Does stam dds have access to 2 stam steal as magicka users to mag steal? Can stam users cast absorbs higher than their health pool to ignore mechanics?

That comment is kinda mendacious.

Yes stamina characters using same resource to dodge roll and block and to deal dmg but magicka characters use the same resource to cast shields and do dmg so both side using both resources to defense. All stamina characters are using magicka abilities to utilize their builds most of the time to improve their survivality same as magicka characters using block/roll dodge.

Staying in melee range is not that big problem for stamina characters since in trials most of the fights is done uder boss and time when people need to split for few seconds can be used to refresh back bar bow rotation and even despite the fact sometimes they cant dmg from melee at the end their single target is still higher. In PvP beeing melee DD also isnt a problems since You have gap closers , LoS and many other ways to reduce distance between You and magicka enemie.

Minor magicka steal for magicka characters is compensation for the fact that all base costs of stamina abilities are lower then magicka abilities and also every stamina weapon tree have passive lowering it abilities costs so magicka characters need magicka steel to be on pair with stamina characters.

Currently in many group contents it's much easier to ignore mechanics when You come with more stam DD's that will melt bosses down because they have much higher single target DPS which will allow to bypass mechanics totally. Also shields currently in trials are in many situations weaker defensive then Deadly Cloak which is part of rotation and lowers incoming dmg so much that sometimes stamina character using it can take less dmg then fully shielded magicka character (good example is dual wield boss in vet AS) not mentioning magicka character needs to cast shields outside the rotation excatly when he takes the dmg which messes up rotation and resource managment when stamina character can just keep up Deadly Cloak as part of the rotation and dont care about anything else and sometimes only need to use Vigor.

Lol no

He is spot on, whats so funny?

Gravord wrote: »

@ZOS_Wrobel
Can we get finally option to queue to specific bg modes and will sigil be removed from deathmatch to make it more about player skills and tactics than mindless rush for double dmg easy win?

Yeah get that sigil out! If you want to keep sigil mechanics, have it always spawn on the losing team's relic altar.

People think because I dislike zergballs that I don’t think zergs should exist or large groups should exist which is incorrect. Cyrodiil like the DAOC rvr zones should cater to all forms of pvp. Certain forms of pvp shouldn’t automatically receive benefits either like with zergballs and the aoe cap. There has to be a balance. I personally think the large group cap should be lowered to 12 people as this would increase the amount of roaming groups and might potentially produce actual group vs group combat.

The spread is to high with 24 people.

@BohnT

I understand completely what you were saying.

So you are saying that because you have never found a counter to a dot defile build they should be nerfed. Your argument is we should have 31cp instead of 50cp at 42% ? Ok ... so where does that leave abilities skills passives potions dedicated healers monster set and regular sets that proc heals and buff them them 24/7 ? I see you can stack your heals buff them, proc them activate them, pop them when ever you like. I feel you may have 1 style of game play, and heavy reliant on. ( Old metas that do not work anymore. )

And you say and i qoute "

On most stam builds (not duel based) your vigor will tick between 1.8-3.4k with non-crits and crits. Reducing this by 70% and your healing goes down to 560-1020 there is no used dot in the game which doesn't apply enough damage to negate the healing of vigor. If you check combat parses most people have ~3-4k hps when they are fighting.

So your talking about most people, and their normal gameplay ? That is obviously not duel wield ? About thier vigor ticks with both debuffs on you ? Well thats simple change you build and gameplay. I only play sorc stam and mag day1 i have or had no problems adjusting to each patch update dlc in the 2 1/2 years i played in pvp and pve. The problem is that fact your healing is being negated by your normal gameplay in pvp not in pve. If the defile was nerfed every1 in thecgame would stay alive 24/7. Your also dying to this i pressume, and possibly known as a good player. Thus making you look bad in front of other players. That's also normal and should be ... thier is a counter to everything even my build you or anybody just hasn't found it yet. And i will most definitely not say it either.


Bye saying reduce it to 25% is insanity and the super healing is back. People can already outheal 3-4 oils being dropped on them why dont they align oils dam with cp or siege ? Before making an argument please look at the game as a whole and not how you or any popular person feels.

Heres the thing ... im a stam sorc dw and bow i have a build that is been reliable for 7 months in pvp after the fassalas nerf. I suggest to anybody that is runs a YouTube twitch build to step aside to that person if you see anybody running a DW and bow do not mess with just zerg them down do not attempt to 1v1 them.