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NB is now top dog and is op.

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Nuff said.
  • SpiderCultist
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    stamina or magicka?

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    "You are just another breed of domestic animal, grazing stupidly while higher beings plot your slaughter."
  • Waffennacht
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    Mag, and yes
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    Shepherd of Rot - Stamina Necromancer
  • SpiderCultist
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    Mag, and yes

    Magicka?
    I have dusted off my mNB many times (he's been my main these past 3 years) and have not seen anything special: I die as often as before and cannot kill as much as I'd like to. Running Maiden + Lich + Skoria atm.
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    Ashlander and Mephala worshipper.
    "You are just another breed of domestic animal, grazing stupidly while higher beings plot your slaughter."
  • olsborg
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    I guess its because some say Merciless Resolve (not relentless focus) is hitting too hard.
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  • Waffennacht
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    Mag, and yes

    Magicka?
    I have dusted off my mNB many times (he's been my main these past 3 years) and have not seen anything special: I die as often as before and cannot kill as much as I'd like to. Running Maiden + Lich + Skoria atm.

    D Clench/reach, Incap, will, skoria, swallow

    Insane healing

    Haven't seen anyone run that set up in like a year though (yours)

    It's usually like Riposte, Skoria and a DMG set
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  • ak_pvp
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    To bite or not to bite, that is the question?

    NB is one of the easiest to kill if you can avoid the initial burst. 2 squish.

    That said there are a few infuriating mechanics that have to be dealt with when fighting them. I.e. fear can't be broken straight away. Cloaking whilst in a root. (I know you are there, you know you are there.) and not NB exclusive, eternal hunt ignoring root immunity. And why don't ST dots tick in cloak?
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  • SpiderCultist
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    Mag, and yes

    Magicka?
    I have dusted off my mNB many times (he's been my main these past 3 years) and have not seen anything special: I die as often as before and cannot kill as much as I'd like to. Running Maiden + Lich + Skoria atm.

    D Clench/reach, Incap, will, skoria, swallow

    Insane healing

    Haven't seen anyone run that set up in like a year though (yours)

    It's usually like Riposte, Skoria and a DMG set

    I'd rather pick HA over Riposte anytime. And where's your sustain?
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    Ashlander and Mephala worshipper.
    "You are just another breed of domestic animal, grazing stupidly while higher beings plot your slaughter."
  • Waffennacht
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    Mag, and yes

    Magicka?
    I have dusted off my mNB many times (he's been my main these past 3 years) and have not seen anything special: I die as often as before and cannot kill as much as I'd like to. Running Maiden + Lich + Skoria atm.

    D Clench/reach, Incap, will, skoria, swallow

    Insane healing

    Haven't seen anyone run that set up in like a year though (yours)

    It's usually like Riposte, Skoria and a DMG set

    I'd rather pick HA over Riposte anytime. And where's your sustain?
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Trashs1 wrote: »
    trans+wizards+ skoria?? how do u do dmg with 2 defensive sets? @Lexxypwns

    Well, at any given time I've got path, cripple, and funnel DoTs ticking and you're getting hit with a light attack every second an an assassin's will every 6 or less seconds. I actually absolutely melt people with the pressure, if all my DoTs tick + light attack + skoria + will that's like 18k+ damage hitting you at once, without an ultimate.

    Furthermore, the tankiness means my offensive burst window is always open, I stop being offensive for long enough to refresh my buffs and cast 1 healing ward, but even then you're weaving and proc'ing the bow.

    Mageblade has so much pressure and burst when played properly that you don't even need skoria in this setup tbh.

    I always laugh at the mageblades stacking all damage because it's really not needed when you're staying aggressive and maintaining your pressure.

    I 1vX in this setup EZ and it's got the group support to carry pugs in a BG

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    Shepherd of Rot - Stamina Necromancer
  • Stoopid_Nwah
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    I have to agree, magnb is pretty strong when played well, but I just don't tend to run into many who know what they're doing lol. I'd say I find most magnbs in pvp are bombers or are running necro and shield stacking. I play both stam and mag in pvp and while stam definitely has the in and out burst style I enjoy, my magnb can take a beating in all light armour without shields just because of how insane their healing is. All in all though, I'd say top dog in cyro goes to stamdens.
    Xbox NA Stoopid Nwah
    EP-main, Dunmer NB that switches between mag and stam every other day
  • Waffennacht
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    I have to agree, magnb is pretty strong when played well, but I just don't tend to run into many who know what they're doing lol. I'd say I find most magnbs in pvp are bombers or are running necro and shield stacking. I play both stam and mag in pvp and while stam definitely has the in and out burst style I enjoy, my magnb can take a beating in all light armour without shields just because of how insane their healing is. All in all though, I'd say top dog in cyro goes to stamdens.

    On Xbox, haven't ran into anyone as good as @Lexxypwns I know they exist, just very rare
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  • thankyourat
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    I think magblade is 3rd best 1v1 behind magdk and stam warden. Overall though stam warden is definitely top dog in pvp.
    Mag, and yes

    Magicka?
    I have dusted off my mNB many times (he's been my main these past 3 years) and have not seen anything special: I die as often as before and cannot kill as much as I'd like to. Running Maiden + Lich + Skoria atm.

    D Clench/reach, Incap, will, skoria, swallow

    Insane healing

    Haven't seen anyone run that set up in like a year though (yours)

    It's usually like Riposte, Skoria and a DMG set

    I'd rather pick HA over Riposte anytime. And where's your sustain?

    That's plenty of sustain. I run a dark elf, riposte/maiden/skoria and even 1vX i early run out of magicka with drain, siphoning attacks and potions. 1v1 I'll never run out of magicka with this set up
  • Waffennacht
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    Honestly all classes can do very well if the player using it is good enough.

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    1100+ CP
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    Shepherd of Rot - Stamina Necromancer
  • Waffennacht
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    So can we officially state mag sorc is NOT OP?
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    Shepherd of Rot - Stamina Necromancer
  • Maryal
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    I am? Hmmm.... someone needs to pass this most important message on to all the other classes I play against in Cyrodiil ... because, as of last night, they were clueless.

  • Brutusmax1mus
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    So can we officially state mag sorc is NOT OP?

    They aren't op. But they are very easy to pick up and do great vs bad players.
  • Lexxypwns
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    Mag, and yes

    Magicka?
    I have dusted off my mNB many times (he's been my main these past 3 years) and have not seen anything special: I die as often as before and cannot kill as much as I'd like to. Running Maiden + Lich + Skoria atm.

    D Clench/reach, Incap, will, skoria, swallow

    Insane healing

    Haven't seen anyone run that set up in like a year though (yours)

    It's usually like Riposte, Skoria and a DMG set

    Trans >>>> Riposte imo.

    @HEBREWHAMMERRR is a better mageblade than me for sure. I think we run the exact same build though
    Edited by Lexxypwns on October 28, 2017 9:13PM
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  • Gilvoth
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    Nuff said.

    we nightblades die very very easy. and pull us out of stealth is also very easy.
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  • Waffennacht
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    Nuff said.

    we nightblades die very very easy. and pull us out of stealth is also very easy.

    I don't think most NBs use cloak anymore
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    1100+ CP
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  • idk
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    Mag, and yes

    Magicka?
    I have dusted off my mNB many times (he's been my main these past 3 years) and have not seen anything special: I die as often as before and cannot kill as much as I'd like to. Running Maiden + Lich + Skoria atm.

    I am assuming you are in PvP because those sets would be bad in PvE. War Mainden only affects magicka damage leaving WoE weaker and it is a hard hitting dot otherwise. Lich is all about regen, only one slot has anything contributing to damage.
    Really, idk
  • Speed_Kills
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    Nb, both mag and Stam are very strong (and have been for a few patches). I agree that they are top tier along with Stamdens in duels; however, they can be outplayed. I would say OP might be pushing it a bit, but they are strong against almost any spec 1v1.
    Some say speed kills, I hope to be proof of that.

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  • WillhelmBlack
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    xD

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  • Joy_Division
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    Mag, and yes

    Magicka?
    I have dusted off my mNB many times (he's been my main these past 3 years) and have not seen anything special: I die as often as before and cannot kill as much as I'd like to. Running Maiden + Lich + Skoria atm.

    If someone just dusts off a character occasionally, they will not be fully aware or experienced what it can and can't do, how changes have impacted gameplay from patch to patch, and reach its potential.
  • Izaki
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    Nuff said.

    we nightblades die very very easy. and pull us out of stealth is also very easy.

    I don't think most NBs use cloak anymore

    Only Stam NBs use Cloak nowadays, because they don't have the massive healing capabilities of a Magblade.
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  • Zer0oo
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    Wait are we over mag sorc is op?
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  • WillhelmBlack
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    Sixty5 wrote: »
    Dueled a stamblade today, ping spiked up to 999+ during the fight. Still won.

    Ran into a few in Cyrodil later on. They also died.

    Stam Sorc eats Nightblades for breakfast.

    And even Stamplar

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  • thankyourat
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    Izaki wrote: »
    Nuff said.

    we nightblades die very very easy. and pull us out of stealth is also very easy.

    I don't think most NBs use cloak anymore

    Only Stam NBs use Cloak nowadays, because they don't have the massive healing capabilities of a Magblade.

    I use cloak on my magblade to avoid CCs, get to line of sight, and to make sure i get my healing ward heal. I still need to use cloak because i don't run double defensive sets
  • Sixty5
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    Sixty5 wrote: »
    Dueled a stamblade today, ping spiked up to 999+ during the fight. Still won.

    Ran into a few in Cyrodil later on. They also died.

    Stam Sorc eats Nightblades for breakfast.

    And even Stamplar

    Should be called a snareplar tbh.
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