@Someone or whoever can poke the one to fix the infinite loading screens in Cyrodiil

  • Koolio
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    After thinking about all the different load screen issues like when and where. I now have 1 answer for you guys at Zos.

    Go play Cyrodiil.

    For at least a few hours. Even if it's in a group of Zos developers.

    Really though go play Pvp in cyrodiil on every server. Maybe 2 hours a day. You will find so much information on why the population is so low. Where the load screens happen and why.
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  • Docmandu
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    IMHO at this point asking for this kind of information is just insulting.
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  • pzschrek
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    2) When teleporting between keeps or respawning at a keep *This is the main culprit because it is the most common loading screen

    ^Seconded
    Some anecdotal fixes:

    ^His list of these was on point. To that list I would add character interactions...sometimes (but not always) trade-request-spamming someone in a load screen can get them out of it.

    The bigger the group the worse it is.

    I echo Kartalin on the group vis checks. An immense amount of time and energy in any group I' m in goes into trying to avoid loadscreens and get situated in Vivec especially...I'd agree it's really nuts.

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  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    Cool, thanks for the info so far, all. We've passed all this along.
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  • pzschrek
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    @Kita recently made a pretty humorous video that's been making the PVP community rounds about the issue that actually shows a lot of what goes on really accurately, as well as how people feel about it:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdYnsVUEDhQ
    Edited by pzschrek on October 10, 2017 7:16PM
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  • Rohamad_Ali
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno

    I receive infinite loading screens most often in groups in Cyrodiil . PC NA . I am running a new ASUS ROG well above the recommendations posted to run the game . I am using the fastest internet my area provides and upgraded to resolve the issue but it did not . My ping stays around 120 and FPS around 55-60 and still get them . I had a networking friend come in and optimized my modem as he said it did not need replacing and was very fast .

    Through many recent tweaks I have gotten my laptop to run well above its capabilities and this still does not solve the infinite load screen issues . Other games are running so fast now it's incredible but ESO still shoots me into infinite load screens in PVP .

    This can happen when gap closing another player or repairing a castle wall . Most of the time it happens when fast traveling to a new castle . Sometimes just running on a mount to a fight a loading screen will appear and sometimes right in the middle of a fight no matter how big or small . If you need more specific info on my hardware feel free to ask or any other questions as this the number one reason I do not play eso often anymore . I'm happy to help .
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  • Xsorus
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    Its something to do with grouping, cause I get zero load screens in Cyrodiil
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  • Docmandu
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    Cool, thanks for the info so far, all. We've passed all this along.

    To the same people as Jessica passed it along to in July?! I hope not.
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  • Rastoric
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    I've been logged in Cyrodiil for an hour no issue solo. Then after going into & out of a delve for Blessings buff I'm stuck in a very long loading screen while porting from BB to PvP quest gate.
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  • Armatesz
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    Only two places I know of that give me infinite loading screens are cyrodiil and vvardenfell. Takes a fair bit of exploring and moving around from zone to zone to do this but is annoying. Nowadays I try to remember to reload ui every so often and it kinda helps. Xbox one to boot as well.
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  • Legedric
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    Xsorus wrote: »
    Its something to do with grouping, cause I get zero load screens in Cyrodiil

    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler

    I somewhat confirm this. Whenever I am running around solo in Cyrodiil I have no (or at least significantly less) infinite loading screens when teleporting through Cyrodiil compared to being grouped in PvP.
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  • Lieblingsjunge
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    Izanagi's list is pretty much what's happening.

    The main issue for loading screens seem to be people/things not rendering properly. Doing a "Regroup North base so we can make sure everyone sees each other". That usually prevents loading screens. But it takes time - because sometimes it requires multiple people running out of rendering distance multiple times.

    And it also seem to be related to Zones/Same map. If someone in North base is invisible, you can still port from South base to North base without a loading screen, as these seem to have different "maps".
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    To prevent the long loading screen back into Cyrodiil after you task manager the game 'cus you're stuck in one, having your character kicked from group seems to help with the infinite loading screens when logging back in. (But that requires out of game-communication and I know a lot of people don't play with that).
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  • ishilb14_ESO
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    Use task manager to kill your game instead of ALT+F4, way less likely to get kicked out of Cyro this way. A year or so ago ALT+F4 was the way to do it but ZOS introduced something into the game to detect that and basically log you out, thus kicking you from Cyro
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  • pzschrek
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    ^Yep, force close via task manager followed by immediate relog almost always keeps me in Cyro upon relog and is usually much faster than waiting for a loading screen. I have a good PC so the game loads rapidly. Essential for vivec.

    If I had to force crash and get dumped back at the back of a 30 minute queue, the ESO juice would definitely not be worth the squeeze.
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  • Docmandu
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    As I've stated many times already in this thread... this ALSO happens when solo in Cyrodiil.. as I'm never grouped up in Cyrodiil and I think it's pretty clear I get hit by this issue very VERY frequently (then again.. I spend most my time in Cyrodiil)
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  • Xsorus
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    Docmandu wrote: »
    As I've stated many times already in this thread... this ALSO happens when solo in Cyrodiil.. as I'm never grouped up in Cyrodiil and I think it's pretty clear I get hit by this issue very VERY frequently (then again.. I spend most my time in Cyrodiil)

    Could be a mod then, as like I said I've not had this issue in years....

    Everyone here post what Mods you're running

    We'll narrow it down from there.
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  • Docmandu
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    Great start of the weekend... sigh..
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  • Thunderclap
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    Yep today is so bad. 2nd time lose the connection to the server during a greater fight and now the 3rd endless loading to try come back in the game. Anf this stupid error message "Can't connect to the server, check your internet connection!" after character selection screen. I can write in this forum! Why I can't connect to this fu... mega server :/
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  • Lieblingsjunge
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    Yep today is so bad. 2nd time lose the connection to the server during a greater fight and now the 3rd endless loading to try come back in the game. Anf this stupid error message "Can't connect to the server, check your internet connection!" after character selection screen. I can write in this forum! Why I can't connect to this fu... mega server :/

    That might be because for the game you're still "Logged in" even tho you disconnected. I get this a few times when I crash and try to log back in - and I'm still online for my group ingame, but I'm logged off for me.
    Relogging once or twice usually fixes it. Or you can try what's being said: Go into settings and change View Distance to 0.
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  • Docmandu
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    The bug that keeps on giving... sigh... good thing they passed all that info to those teams... twice!
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  • Docmandu
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    And some more...
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  • Docmandu
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    GRATS ZOS!!! Made it 1 day without an infinite loading screen!!! W00t... alas.. your KILLER STREAK ends today... but it's a new record anyway.. 1 frackin whole day without an infinite loading screen!

    @ZOS_GinaBruno Thx Gina.. that info you and Jessica gave to that kick .ss team paid off!! after only 9+ months!

    /end sarcasm
    Edited by Docmandu on October 20, 2017 7:43PM
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  • Docmandu
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    As expected... nothing done about this issue in the lastest DLC. Frack they didn't even bother to give us new Cyrodiil loading screens, only the PvE loading screens got updated. *RUDE*
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  • Docmandu
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    And that's number 2 for this evening... fsck this. @ZOS_GinaBruno so how's that team doing that got all that info, TWICE?! Still on that 1 year sabbatical, I take it?! Or is it a bunch of juniors that never seen any real world code before?
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  • Docmandu
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    FFS!
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  • Thunderclap
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    No improvement. Port to a keep and losing the connection to the server. PC Eu vivec.
    And again 2 endless loading screens after relog and try come back in the game to cyro.
    Edited by Thunderclap on October 29, 2017 3:46PM
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  • Cernow
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    Have had a perma loading screen after pretty much every death in Cyrodiil today (Kyne EU and Sotha Sil EU). It just crushes the game experience because by the time you've killed the client and relogged into the game (a game with pathetically slow load times anyway) the battle you were in has long since moved on.

    It's truly horrible server performance. It's not my PC or connection, I don't get these problems with other games.

    The truly embarrassing thing about this for ZOS is this bug has been happening for years and they do nothing to fix it. That's shockingly poor.

    Do the devs even care about PvP anymore? The amount of crashes, lag, exploits and unregulated cheating seems to indicate they don't.

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  • Malic
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    Cernow wrote: »

    The truly embarrassing thing about this for ZOS is this bug has been happening for years and they do nothing to fix it. That's shockingly poor.

    And yet, per your own message you got hung up on this again today.

    So you want them to fix something you are going to continue to use anyway and they are "shockingly poor"?

    It says more about you, that after (your word) "years" you keep logging in and expecting a different result. ZOS is remarkably rich, contrary to your proclamation. To have users like you who YEAR after YEAR, month after month, week after week, day after day continue to consume a product they seemingly deem deficient.

    Of course they are the problem right? LOL
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  • Cernow
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    Malic wrote: »
    Cernow wrote: »

    The truly embarrassing thing about this for ZOS is this bug has been happening for years and they do nothing to fix it. That's shockingly poor.

    And yet, per your own message you got hung up on this again today.

    So you want them to fix something you are going to continue to use anyway and they are "shockingly poor"?

    It says more about you, that after (your word) "years" you keep logging in and expecting a different result. ZOS is remarkably rich, contrary to your proclamation. To have users like you who YEAR after YEAR, month after month, week after week, day after day continue to consume a product they seemingly deem deficient.

    Of course they are the problem right? LOL

    Before this weekend I hadn't PvP'd for over a month because of how poor server performance, class balance and exploiting had become. I thought I would give Cyro a try again to see if the CWC patch fixed anything. But it seems to have made all three of these things worse.

    I have ESO+ currently. But I haven't subbed continually since launch and I've stopped my subs several times for long periods when it wasn't proving enjoyable. At this point, I'll probably not renew ESO+ when it runs out unless a number of things get fixed, PvP foremost among them. So your point is?
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  • frozywozy
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno - See your faithful guide of the loading screens.

    If you don't have any idea how to fix the loading screens, a great idea would be to at least bring us new art work to look at.
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