Transmutation crystal, random vet dungeons and ESO+

anitajoneb17_ESO · September 2017

So, according to Gina, running random veteran dungeons via the grouping tool will be one of the main ways to get transmutation crystals :

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

As for the current drop rates (which are subject to change since we're on the PTS), you're guaranteed to receive Crystal(s) from the following sources:
Veteran Undaunted Pledge

Your first completed random Veteran dungeon through the Grouping Tool per day

Trial Weekly Quests

Leaderboards (AvA, Trials, Arenas, and Battlegrounds)

End of Campaign Rewards (both 7-day and 30-day)

Veteran Maelstrom Arena

Veteran Dragonstar Arena

Additionally, you also have a chance at obtaining Crystals from these sources:
Completing additional random Veteran dungeons through the Grouping Tool

Final bosses from Normal and Veteran dungeons

Rewards for the Worthy

In this case, you NEED to remove DLC dungeons from random daily.
It's NOT fair at all that paying customers (ESO+) will face the risk to land in a difficult dungeon that takes a lot of time to complete (speedrun achievement time for vICP is officially 45 minutes) while non-paying customers (non-subscribers) will be guaranteed an easy 10-minute-run in any of the base-game vet dungeons (for which the speedrun achievement time is officially 20 minutes).

Subscribers shouldn't be penalized now, should they ?

(EDIT : typo).

Apherius · September 2017

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

So, according to Gina, running random veteran dungeons via the grouping tool will be one of the main ways to get transmutation crystals :

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

As for the current drop rates (which are subject to change since we're on the PTS), you're guaranteed to receive Crystal(s) from the following sources:
Veteran Undaunted Pledge

Your first completed random Veteran dungeon through the Grouping Tool per day

Trial Weekly Quests

Leaderboards (AvA, Trials, Arenas, and Battlegrounds)

End of Campaign Rewards (both 7-day and 30-day)

Veteran Maelstrom Arena

Veteran Dragonstar Arena

Additionally, you also have a chance at obtaining Crystals from these sources:
Completing additional random Veteran dungeons through the Grouping Tool

Final bosses from Normal and Veteran dungeons

Rewards for the Worthy

In this case, you NEED to remove DLC dungeons from random daily.
It's NOT fair at all that paying customers (ESO+) will face the risk to land in a difficult dungeon that takes a lot of time to complete (speedrun achievement time for vICP is officially 45 minutes) while non-paying customers (non-subscribers) will be guaranteed an easy 10-minute-run in any of the base-game vet dungeons (for which the speedrun achievement time is officially 20 minutes).

Subscribers shouldn't be penalized now, should they ?

(EDIT : typo).

-_- , they should better increase the difficulty of the base game dungeon , like this all dungeon will deserve to be called "dungeons ". and nobody will be penalized.

grannas211 · September 2017

Apherius wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

So, according to Gina, running random veteran dungeons via the grouping tool will be one of the main ways to get transmutation crystals :

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

As for the current drop rates (which are subject to change since we're on the PTS), you're guaranteed to receive Crystal(s) from the following sources:
Veteran Undaunted Pledge

Your first completed random Veteran dungeon through the Grouping Tool per day

Trial Weekly Quests

Leaderboards (AvA, Trials, Arenas, and Battlegrounds)

End of Campaign Rewards (both 7-day and 30-day)

Veteran Maelstrom Arena

Veteran Dragonstar Arena

Additionally, you also have a chance at obtaining Crystals from these sources:
Completing additional random Veteran dungeons through the Grouping Tool

Final bosses from Normal and Veteran dungeons

Rewards for the Worthy

In this case, you NEED to remove DLC dungeons from random daily.
It's NOT fair at all that paying customers (ESO+) will face the risk to land in a difficult dungeon that takes a lot of time to complete (speedrun achievement time for vICP is officially 45 minutes) while non-paying customers (non-subscribers) will be guaranteed an easy 10-minute-run in any of the base-game vet dungeons (for which the speedrun achievement time is officially 20 minutes).

Subscribers shouldn't be penalized now, should they ?

(EDIT : typo).

-_- , they should better increase the difficulty of the base game dungeon , like this all dungeon will deserve to be called "dungeons ". and nobody will be penalized.

They're not going to make CoA1 as hard as shadows of the hist dungeons. This forum would take a break from nerf sorc threads and be in full melt down mode.

SaintSubwayy · September 2017

Agreed, the DLC Dungeons should aswell be removed from the normal Random Table.
Many ppl just get ESO plus and get pulled throuh them in normal and in vet they'd just get kicked for a 15min penalty and never get the chance to learn them (unless they have a guild or friends showing them the dungeons)

I'd support a system which checks how many ppl are already in the group and then decide to get DLC dungeons into the random draw or not.
If 3/4 or 4/4 are in the group already before it's formed by the Random dungeon search the DLC should be included, if you sing up with 2/4 or alone you wont get them at all.

Kneighbors · September 2017

Actually looking at it now it seems 40 gems isn't that bad... think 30 would make a lil more sense, but 40 is in reasonable limits

Fischblut · September 2017

while non-paying customers (non-subscribers) will be guaranteed an easy 10-minute-run in any of the base-game vet dungeons

Many of these "non-paying" customers have dlcs permanently unlocked via purchase in crown store, so we are punished more than you - by playing without craft bag and still having to deal with negative aspects of the game like getting dlc dungeon in random queue

Jamdarius · October 2017

I just join a group with min. 1 non ESO+ non DLC mate from guild, problem solved.
You can also take fresh/newbie player to join you, if he or she is below 45 lvl or below 160 CP you won't have to do harder dungeons well you won't be able to do vet dung this way but you will be able to run faster and easier dungs.

Beardimus · October 2017

That's GENIUS @Jamdarius !!!!!!

Jamdarius · October 2017

Beardimus wrote: »

That's GENIUS @Jamdarius !!!!!!

Thx, I will add it will also be more hrealthy to run with newer players because they will get help needed to enjoy the game and show them the way how to do a dungeon thus increasing the chance of having healthy and noobless community.

Subversus · October 2017

grannas211 wrote: »

Apherius wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

So, according to Gina, running random veteran dungeons via the grouping tool will be one of the main ways to get transmutation crystals :

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

As for the current drop rates (which are subject to change since we're on the PTS), you're guaranteed to receive Crystal(s) from the following sources:
Veteran Undaunted Pledge

Your first completed random Veteran dungeon through the Grouping Tool per day

Trial Weekly Quests

Leaderboards (AvA, Trials, Arenas, and Battlegrounds)

End of Campaign Rewards (both 7-day and 30-day)

Veteran Maelstrom Arena

Veteran Dragonstar Arena

Additionally, you also have a chance at obtaining Crystals from these sources:
Completing additional random Veteran dungeons through the Grouping Tool

Final bosses from Normal and Veteran dungeons

Rewards for the Worthy

In this case, you NEED to remove DLC dungeons from random daily.
It's NOT fair at all that paying customers (ESO+) will face the risk to land in a difficult dungeon that takes a lot of time to complete (speedrun achievement time for vICP is officially 45 minutes) while non-paying customers (non-subscribers) will be guaranteed an easy 10-minute-run in any of the base-game vet dungeons (for which the speedrun achievement time is officially 20 minutes).

Subscribers shouldn't be penalized now, should they ?

(EDIT : typo).

-_- , they should better increase the difficulty of the base game dungeon , like this all dungeon will deserve to be called "dungeons ". and nobody will be penalized.

They're not going to make CoA1 as hard as shadows of the hist dungeons. This forum would take a break from nerf sorc threads and be in full melt down mode.

Haha that's funny because city of ash is filled with lava and lava melts everything