No Love for our Warden Bear in the Horns of the Reach DLC :( : ( :(

vpy · July 2017

Let me first tell you this.

I was a bear hater and now I have grown to love my bear (class defining ability of warden).

But I really wish my bear (the only ultimate that occupies two slots in the game) would be better.

Let us say I have this boss and I am sniping on him.

After like 2-3 snipes I get the aggro eventhough my bear was asked ( :'( "command pet") to hit him first while I initiated my attack with LAs.

Is it too much to ask for a taunt for my bear ?

It does not even have to be constant taunt but a taunt on an internal cooldown of X seconds would suffice.

So TLDR

How many of us would want a taunt (with a internal cooldown of X seconds) on our bear ?

Kharnamatic · July 2017

Yup. All the Morrowind DLC did was make me miss my huntard and resub to WoW to play her. It's such ana amzing feeling to have a pet with a taunt and actually be able to pick what my pet looks like. Plus the fact that Vvardenfell had so little content and I blew through it all in two weeks.

[Edit to remove political reference]

leepalmer95 · July 2017

No love for half of the useless warden skills.

Like really 10% max hp heal and 2% a second wut.

Glamdring · July 2017

you should be really glad they didnt touch your dive skill, that *** is so much cheese a skill can ever be.

vpy · July 2017

Yes..I really want a taunt on my bear

Glamdring wrote: »

you should be really glad they didnt touch your dive skill, that *** is so much cheese a skill can ever be.

Honestly mate,

For a solo player (and not a PVP ***) I will be happy to get a hit on my dive skill if I get a taunt on my bear

akl77 · July 2017

Yes..I really want a taunt on my bear

Also, where's the promised buffs for mag warden?
25k dps by alcast on target skeleton compared to 40k a sorc can do, it's making magden a laughing joke.

Vercingetorix · July 2017

Yes..I really want a taunt on my bear

I'm having far more fun on my Necromancer in Diablo III. Having an army of pets to do the heavy lifting for you feels amazing.

ZoS dropped the ball with the Bear. It could've been the strongest pet in the game (since it's an ult), but ZoS once again proves it fails to do anything intelligent, even when pointed in the right direction by players....

Vercingetorix · July 2017

Yes..I really want a taunt on my bear

akl77 wrote: »

Also, where's the promised buffs for mag warden?
25k dps by alcast on target skeleton compared to 40k a sorc can do, it's making magden a laughing joke.

To be fair, that video of his is old and you shouldn't blindly believe one person. There are plenty of videos out there with people hitting 35-37K with magden and even clearing vMA flawlessly.

Tryxus · July 2017

I think it's unfair that the DK Talons now do Magic Damage while the Warden version still scales with HP

theher0not · July 2017

No. I am happy with the bear as it is without a taunt

I don't want taunt on it but I do want it to be buffed.

BigBragg · July 2017

No. I am happy with the bear as it is without a taunt

The bear is essentially a DoT, with an ulti execute. Why do people want it to be a tank as well? That would mess with tanks, if anyone actually took the bear into group content, and there is no reason for it in open world.

SanTii.92 · July 2017

Other

Bear don't really need a taunt, bur warden could use some buffs sure. Although that will be the day everyone jumps over the warden train and that would be a boring day.

Transairion · July 2017

Didn't all the taunts from combat pets (including Storm Antronach) get removed due to complaints from PvE groups about "stealing agro"?

None of them are able to taunt anymore as far as I know, but they can take agro from the player if their owner/summoner is the highest threat present. In group content that's almost never the case, but in solo play it's almost always active. Warden Bear can be improved sure but I don't think taunt is the path to take.

max_only · July 2017

Yes..I really want a taunt on my bear

As someone who made a baby warden: I wish that they added 3 little squares on top of the 5 we get for when the bear is active (attack, taunt, stop attacking) bound to keys 6,7,8. The problem is I guess console users ugh.

As a tank: I wouldn't mind if the bear got a taunt when the warden heavy attacked. That's right! I said it. Just don't heavy attack the boss when we are in a dungeon and you can have your taunting bear. Besides I feel like if I was a warden I'd run two more useful ultimates in a group dungeon.

PlagueSD · July 2017

Other

I just use the bear ultimate as a taunt. On elite boss mobs, I can send the bear in and use my Ultimate. I'll have a hard time pulling agro (I can if I go balls out on DPS) but for the most part, I can sit back, weave light attacks in between my snipes and cliff divers. Bear holds boss with no problems.

Anhedonie · July 2017

I dont play Warden at all..I dont care

Oh come on, you're better than this. Just use rend/ballista.
Unless you're a masochist, that is.

Sigtric · July 2017

Other

I don't know if a taunt is the right answer answer but I definitely would like to see the bear made into something useful. As it is now, it's nothing more than a novelty.

Megabear · July 2017

Yes..I really want a taunt on my bear

My bear is still hibernating, through summer.

SuperStarPL · July 2017

No. I am happy with the bear as it is without a taunt

NERF WARDEN

BigBragg · July 2017

No. I am happy with the bear as it is without a taunt

max_only wrote: »

Just don't heavy attack the boss when we are in a dungeon and you can have your taunting bear.

So what about resource management? Bosses are the time when you need that more than on trash mobs.

Nemesis7884 · July 2017

the pet system in gw2 is just sooooooooooo much better implemented..should have taken a close look at that one

Apherius · July 2017

No. I am happy with the bear as it is without a taunt

They have remove the " tanking " of our pets ( i'm sorcerer ). this would be an insult to allow the Bear to tank.

Alpheu5 · July 2017

I dont play Warden at all..I dont care

Apherius wrote: »

They have remove the " tanking " of our pets ( i'm sorcerer ). this would be an insult to allow the Bear to tank.

What do you mean? My Clannfear still holds agro. Can't vouch for the Twilight or Scamp.

ParaNostram · July 2017

No. I am happy with the bear as it is without a taunt

If your bear gets a taunt, you can't use it in dungeons.

max_only · July 2017

Yes..I really want a taunt on my bear

BigBragg wrote: »

max_only wrote: »

Just don't heavy attack the boss when we are in a dungeon and you can have your taunting bear.

So what about resource management? Bosses are the time when you need that more than on trash mobs.

Heavy attack an add.

Also I said that there are more useful ultimates a warden can/should slot during a dungeon than the bear ulti. Oh noes your light attack bear isn't helping us? What ever shall we do? Please. Bust out that cheap healing ult, a destro ult, a shooting star, lights champion, warhorn, pretty much anything else would be more useful during a boss attack. Which points to how the bear is a novelty not a useful tool.

I remember in vanilla wow a decade ago I built my hunter to specifically buff a bear pet so it had enough resist to tank in dungeons. That was fun. But we don't have the same controls here and we don't have the same skill trees where we can focus our build on our pets.

SanTii.92 · July 2017

Other

Anhedonie wrote: »

Oh come on, you're better than this. Just use rend/ballista.
Unless you're a masochist, that is.

Why do you have the warden avatar if you don't play them at all? Questions.

Tyrobag · July 2017

No. I am happy with the bear as it is without a taunt

I definitely don't want it to taunt, I want it to kill stuff!

Apherius · July 2017

No. I am happy with the bear as it is without a taunt

Alpheu5 wrote: »

Apherius wrote: »

They have remove the " tanking " of our pets ( i'm sorcerer ). this would be an insult to allow the Bear to tank.

What do you mean? My Clannfear still holds agro. Can't vouch for the Twilight or Scamp.

Quote from gina . MORROWIND UPDATE.

Hey guys, apologies for the delay. We got some answers tracked down for you and this is, actually, intended behavior. There were some changes for pets that went in back on the PTS, and unfortunately the patch notes for the changes were missed. Here are the things we changed and what is currently live:

[*]Removed passive healing from summoned pets.
[*]Increased a pet's damage reduction to radius attacks to 85% from 75%. This bonus applies to all attacks in Trials.
[*]Clannfear pets no longer taunt enemies in Trials.

Alpheu5 · July 2017

I dont play Warden at all..I dont care

Apherius wrote: »

Alpheu5 wrote: »

Apherius wrote: »

They have remove the " tanking " of our pets ( i'm sorcerer ). this would be an insult to allow the Bear to tank.

What do you mean? My Clannfear still holds agro. Can't vouch for the Twilight or Scamp.

Quote from gina . MORROWIND UPDATE.

Hey guys, apologies for the delay. We got some answers tracked down for you and this is, actually, intended behavior. There were some changes for pets that went in back on the PTS, and unfortunately the patch notes for the changes were missed. Here are the things we changed and what is currently live:
Removed passive healing from summoned pets.

Increased a pet's damage reduction to radius attacks to 85% from 75%. This bonus applies to all attacks in Trials.

Clannfear pets no longer taunt enemies in Trials.

That explains it. I'm not a trial person so there's no way I'd ever notice that.

max_only · July 2017

Yes..I really want a taunt on my bear

Apherius wrote: »

Alpheu5 wrote: »

Apherius wrote: »

They have remove the " tanking " of our pets ( i'm sorcerer ). this would be an insult to allow the Bear to tank.

What do you mean? My Clannfear still holds agro. Can't vouch for the Twilight or Scamp.

Quote from gina . MORROWIND UPDATE.

Hey guys, apologies for the delay. We got some answers tracked down for you and this is, actually, intended behavior. There were some changes for pets that went in back on the PTS, and unfortunately the patch notes for the changes were missed. Here are the things we changed and what is currently live:
Removed passive healing from summoned pets.

Increased a pet's damage reduction to radius attacks to 85% from 75%. This bonus applies to all attacks in Trials.

Clannfear pets no longer taunt enemies in Trials.

They went back on the passive healing nerf so this is a bit outdated.

Also, it says trials. Meaning they still allow clanfear to taunt everywhere else. No reason why that same rule and exception can't be applied to bears.

Heroeric1337 · July 2017

Yes..I really want a taunt on my bear

Although it would be nice in my opinion to have the bear taunt, I can understand why it doesn't as it could be annoying in group activities

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