Dottzgaming wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

It's pretty clear procs are overperforming in BG's.
Viper is on nearly every stam build in under a week with 0 skillful counterplay available.

How many years has this community been forced to self regulate?
Instead of relying on ZOS to fix broken, imbalanced mechanics and sets, we've become so accustomed to holding ourselves back from things that are "meta" or "cheese" - LIKE proc sets, LIKE heavy armor, LIKE whatever class is best at the time. The problem with a community self regulating is that only half the community is willing to do this. And as time goes on, more people get frustrated - more people jump to the dark side. Eventually, the entire experience is completely diluted and theorycrafting anything outside this meta is worthless. Build homogenization. Boring PVP with lack of counterplay.

We should not have to self regulate this time.
It's time we look to ZOS to fix what is clearly broken and overperforming instead of trying to force ourselves away from sets that are imbalanced, and yet somehow optimal.

This proc meta is only in its baby stages and viper is already on nearly every death recap of every person I talk to.
It's time ZOS gets in front of this impending meta and fix it before it breaks the integrity of BGs, and ruins their promising growth.

Love this so much.

The proc sets are EXTREMELY frustrating to play against. It's so hard to theorycraft and come up with unique builds because your are neutering yourself by NOT playing with proc sets. You have less damage, less sustain, less everything. Proc sets give people TONS of free damage for literally just freaking showing up. No skill. No thinking. Just free damage. It's like a participation trophy. You showed up? FANTASTIC! HERE IS FREE DAMAGE!

This is honestly so poisonous to the battlegrounds and the no cp meta. the reason, now more than ever, that this needs to be fixed now rather than later is because you just had alot of new and returning players come back to the game. How wonderful do you think theyre going to feel walking into a bg getting 2 shot because two gear sets procced at the same time on an ability?

And after seeing this enoth times if they are unfortunately here for PvP. They will all bash this game and go back to the PvP they was doing before coming here. Also the amount of damage and how often Proc Sets deal their damage for NO COST. Is just silly.

Sadly we'll have to wait at least 3 to 6 months minimal before ZOS decides to balance Proc Sets for Non CP. Not even going to get into Poisons and Non CP.

Vermintide wrote: »

Guys. Guys. I've got an idea. And it doesn't involve changing any procs, it doesn't involve nerfing anyone's build to the ground.

We just disable costumes in PVP.

Hear me out. Most people invested in an MMO care about their looks to a certain degree. They know they look like a hobo wearing their crazy amalgamation of "BiS" gear and FOTM monster sets, so they throw on the TG costume, or some polymorph. They get to look good and have crazy gear!

Well not any more. You can either look cool and do a bit less damage, or you can be OP and look like hot garbage- But the important part is, other players will be able to tell exactly what you are using simply by looking at you. Then they can either just avoid engaging you, or call in the zerg for some love and cherishing.

Well? I mean it might seem ineffective at first but the more you think about it the more it might be genius.

Sure if you can convince ZOS to refund me my Hundreds of USDs I've spent on my wardrobe, because of the fact the mix match unmorphable gear set looks fugly as all hell. Then we can talk. I'll be waiting. However I will not be holding my breath.

But I have to admit nice attempt at derailing this subject. However you could've used more effort.

ezeepeezee wrote: »

Just wanna leave a comment here, another one of many people tired of this proc set thing. I was very much looking forward to BG's, I've been playing this game a long time and I'm here for the PVP. I haven't been in BG's but a handful of times since they came out. They are truly awful.

Videos of your's truely FearlessOne. Stooping low, to the level of the other bads, for the first time in ESO. I've tried to reason with that which can not be reasoned with. I've hit a brick wall like many of you guys.

So I decided if ZOS is just going to let these proc set be this OP. Then a change of mindset and strategy is in order. I've decided to throw all of my gaming morals and values to the curb, and raise the good ole Jolly Rogers. Screw Morality if the gods of this universe is not going to enforce fair play for all. Then I might as well become my most hated enemy and prey on the flock. In a full fledge potato mode engaged status.


The first look at my set up. Not much special just your standard Procblade build.

https://youtu.be/L1qntVXB_DI

Here is my first try at this brain dead playstyle.

https://youtu.be/wtwSDDzKnHY

More videos to follow. These gear sets should not be this powerful it is very bad for PvP.

As of now these gear sets are so strong that it's pretty much either zerg or conform or just stop crying and die or just stop playing this game altogether. The Procalypse is here guys, resistance is very very futile. Conform and join the darkside.

out51d3r wrote: »

nCats wrote: »

I still think the utmost issue is cheeseballcalypse. An organised group all wearing the worst possible combos (and that is not necessarily procsets) is where things really go to the next level of wrong. And it is the community who is doing these cheeseballs, don't forget, and they like it.

I assure you, there are many people who are doing it, but don't like it. I wouldn't touch a proc set with a 10 foot pole if they weren't substantially better than all the alternatives. Unfortunately, they are.

TBH, I find alot of the stuff that's at the top tier at the moment to be pretty dumb. I'll still use it though, because it's top tier.

I'm on the exact same thought pattern as this guy here. I mean honestly the proc situation is even worst then I could have ever imagine. Here again I'll show you all better then I can tell yall. I also left comments in the video of my 2nd time out with a Stamina ProcBlade.

https://youtu.be/wzts-wD8dKg

Simply put what you all see this is very very bad in any game. Curb stomping players that's been playing their characters and builds for months even years, with this dumb maybe 2 hours of actually combat experience on this build. The other 3 to 4 hours of just grinding with a resto staff for vigor. This is completely sad.

However at this point this build and gear is just sooooo powerful. It's like purposely trying to box a Pro Boxer as a Noob with a rocket launcher. The noob will win that fight. Proc sets and Stamina Nightblades just needs a big hit with the nerf bat. But until then I'll just stop playing my other classes I was playing. And have my gear just kill everyone. And this is me as a complete noob with this build barely any experience with it.

I'm going to start naming my next videos of my play on this sad build. "GodBlade engaged" Because it's pretty much close if not completely GODMODE.

I see all of the L2P naysayer trolls have went back under their bridge tho. Guess now that their is proof that this is not a L2P issue. They can not say anything ah?

Kupoking wrote: »

The ZOS answer :

This week end's Golden seller items have Tremorscale and gold viper rings.

Seems proc sets are here to stay... and that ZOS are master trolls :P

BLAHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHAAA this news is just too much. Lol everybody better just jump on the Proc META. It's Proc or get Proc'ed in ESO. It's the new standard 100% backed by ZOS.