Nerf necropotence?

lauykanson · April 2017

Right now the set gives you 7k extra magicka which is roughly 700 spell damage, and its 100% uptime as long as your pet is still alive, which also deals a lot of damage as well.

Maybe nerf the 5 piece bonus to extra 2k magicka to make other sets comparable?

Apherius · April 2017

lauykanson wrote: »

Right now the set gives you 7k extra magicka which is roughly 700 spell damage, and its 100% uptime as long as your pet is still alive, which also deals a lot of damage as well.

Maybe nerf the 5 piece bonus to extra 2k magicka to make other sets comparable?

1K magicka = 100 spell damage
2K magicka = 200 spell damage
well , if they nerf this to 2K magicka , julianos will be better . And why do you want to nerf this set ?! why is there nerf sorc thread and nerf sorc SET thread everywhere ? can you stop sometime to try to destruct the sorc gameplay ? right now for the first time , there is a diversity of build for PVE sorc , with pet and necropotence ,with pet and burning spell-weave , without pet and necropotence or burning spell-weave !

lauykanson · April 2017

Apherius wrote: »

lauykanson wrote: »

Right now the set gives you 7k extra magicka which is roughly 700 spell damage, and its 100% uptime as long as your pet is still alive, which also deals a lot of damage as well.

Maybe nerf the 5 piece bonus to extra 2k magicka to make other sets comparable?

1K magicka = 100 spell damage
2K magicka = 200 spell damage
well , if they nerf this to 2K magicka , julianos will be better . And why do you want to nerf this set ?!

i mean nerfing the 5 piece bonus from extra 4k to extra 2k, other bonus kept the same

AhPook_Is_Here · April 2017

The set is fine. Buff yourself instead.

Apherius · April 2017

lauykanson wrote: »

Apherius wrote: »

lauykanson wrote: »

Right now the set gives you 7k extra magicka which is roughly 700 spell damage, and its 100% uptime as long as your pet is still alive, which also deals a lot of damage as well.

Maybe nerf the 5 piece bonus to extra 2k magicka to make other sets comparable?

1K magicka = 100 spell damage
2K magicka = 200 spell damage
well , if they nerf this to 2K magicka , julianos will be better . And why do you want to nerf this set ?!

i mean nerfing the 5 piece bonus from extra 4k to extra 2k, other bonus kept the same

it's what i say , 4K = 400 spell damage , and julianos give 300 spell damage + crit / 1K magicka .
nerf this to 2K magicka = 200 spell damage is equal to the destruction of the set .

paulsimonps · April 2017

You know that would make it worse than this set right? Also necro adds 4k not 7k, it only adds 7k+ if you stack the right things with it. Its not the set itself that is super powerful but the ability to stack max magicka with percentage buffs like Bound Aegis and Inner light and racial passives. Nightblades can use Necropotence too but not to the same extent as a sorcerer cause they don't have Bound Aegis's 8% max magicka. Don't see a reason why you want to nerf it? And hell its a BoE item, its nice to have some BiS sets not be BoP.

Lore_lai · April 2017

paulsimonps wrote: »

Nightblades can use Necropotence too but not to the same extent as a sorcerer cause they don't have Bound Aegis's 8% max magicka. D

Nightblade has Magicka Flood though.
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OP - no. Stop.
You want this nerfed to 2k magicka while *still* keeping the requirement to have pet? Ridiculous.
Draugr Hulk gives more Stamina than that (what you ask for) on its 5pc with no requirement whatsoever.

illuminousflux · April 2017

yeah, please leave necropotence alone

wolfxspice · April 2017

didn't they already nerf this set once? i could swear i heard it gave 5k max magic on the pts that updated craglorn trials.

acw37162 · April 2017

The OP makes no case for a reason this set should be nerfed.

Minus 100 points.

idk · April 2017

@lauykanson

Your reasoning is heavily flawed. The 5 pc bonus only adds 4k magika whichs is approximately 400 spell damage equivalent.

The 2, 3 and 4 pc set bonus is pretty much irrelevant since every set has a set bonus for those slots whether it be magika, spell damage or spell crit.

Further demonstrating how flawed the reasoning is in the OP, a slot of spell damage in 2, 3 or 4 piece spots is significantly greater than the equivalent slot of magika necro provides.

The full picture needs to be considered when comparing gear bonuses.

Wrekkedd · April 2017

Jesus. These whinebags, if you're smart and or good at this game, you wouldn't be crying about @#$! Like this.

L2P

SodanTok · April 2017

Lets make this thread buff "Hunt Leader"... anyone? No one? Sad....

WalksonGraves · April 2017

sodantokb16_ESO wrote: »

Lets make this thread buff "Hunt Leader"... anyone? No one? Sad....

I'm with you, 3 sec IC and I'm using it.

getemshauna · April 2017

Game has actually no balance, mag sorcs are already pulling 75k+ on zhajhassa and 65k+ on rakkhat, it's irresponsible, twisting path doesn't scale with thaumaturge for over 2 years now, this game bases only on Magicka Sorcerer now, end-game pve has no point.

GilGalad · April 2017

Necropotence is only BIS on a Sorc build with pet, because the pets scales incredibly well with max magicka and is mostly your highest DPS skill. In every other build it (e.g. NBs with shades) it will be worse than sets like BSW or julianos because you miss so much spell dmg and therefore DPS on your weaves (light attacks scale with magicka + 40*spell dmg), while abilities hit for slightly less.
The other area where it works is with pets in PvP to get high shields, but pets can be countered easily. If you have trouble to play against NBs with necropotence I can't help you...

TL;DR: The set has its purpose and is BIS in some builds, but only when you are using abilies that only scale with magicka. It is far away from being overpowered.

Shadow_Viper_vX · April 2017

The item set is fine as is

No changed needed

Stop asking for nerfs

acw37162 · April 2017

sodantokb16_ESO wrote: »

Lets make this thread buff "Hunt Leader"... anyone? No one? Sad....

Let's not.

Not because I don't want the set buffed, because there should not be any reason to go back to VMA.

maxjapank · April 2017

I don't like to ask for nerfs, but I do wish this set was more accessible to all Magicka classes. Someone once suggested that the 5-p bonus be changed to 2500, but 4000 with a pet. Sounded like a great idea to me.

Also, when comparing raw spell power sets with raw resource, let's be realistic. You may be able to get more spell power from other sets, but you are giving up more sustain to do so. With cp scaling, Mage mundus, and +% magicka bonuses, Necropotence is an extremely powerful set.

Barbaran · April 2017

why nerf this set? stam has 2 sets just like it, arguably better.
hulking & bone pirate.
but you dont play magicka do you? so i guess since you cant utalize it, it should be nerfed.

Baconlad · April 2017

It needs nerfed a tad like 1-2k mag and removed pet requirement. Why do only sorcs get to use the set that gives best defense (buffed shields) and buffed offense?

idk · April 2017

Baconlad wrote: »

It needs nerfed a tad like 1-2k mag and removed pet requirement. Why do only sorcs get to use the set that gives best defense (buffed shields) and buffed offense?

@Baconlad Two classes can use it and soon to be a third.

GilGalad · April 2017

Baconlad wrote: »

It needs nerfed a tad like 1-2k mag and removed pet requirement. Why do only sorcs get to use the set that gives best defense (buffed shields) and buffed offense?

Why is there only one class that can use the best magicka DPS set really effectively in PVP (DK with BSW)?

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alexkdd99 · April 2017

gethemshauna wrote: »

ZOS doesnt care about balance in his own game, mag sorcs are already pulling 75k+ on zhajhassa and 65k+ on rakkhat, zos staff is irresponsible, twisting path doesn't scale with thaumaturge for over 2 years now, this game bases only on Magicka Sorcerer now, end-game pve has no point.

Yea that's why mag sorc has been repeatedly nerfed. Shield timers from 20 to 6. The stored ultimate being cut down to 500 from 1000, only affects mag sorcs. Those are 2 pretty big nerfs. Alot of things in the game have been broken for awhile.

But those who continue on adapt and overcome.

The only thing that has no point is this thread.

WuffyCerulei · April 2017

aLi3nZ · April 2017

Zos want sorcs to use pets and not waste an entire skill line. By making this set powerful, they have succeeded.i don't see this changing.

Dantaria · April 2017

alexkdd99 wrote: »

gethemshauna wrote: »

ZOS doesnt care about balance in his own game, mag sorcs are already pulling 75k+ on zhajhassa and 65k+ on rakkhat, zos staff is irresponsible, twisting path doesn't scale with thaumaturge for over 2 years now, this game bases only on Magicka Sorcerer now, end-game pve has no point.

Yea that's why mag sorc has been repeatedly nerfed. Shield timers from 20 to 6. The stored ultimate being cut down to 500 from 1000, only affects mag sorcs. Those are 2 pretty big nerfs. Alot of things in the game have been broken for awhile.

But those who continue on adapt and overcome.

The only thing that has no point is this thread.

Yeaaaaaah. MagSorc has been nerfed. Nerfed with Ancient Knowledge change, which gave us +8% dmg. Nerfed with Volatile Familiar and hp boost to pets. Yep. We're nerfed into the ground

It's not Necropotence, OP. It's Volatile Familiar + Daedric Prey + Necropotence with Necropotence... not being the main offender.

Volatile Familiar is something to look into, yes.

grim_tactics · April 2017

Why are so many people upset about pet builds?

I don't use them and have played against people who do and they're not an issue at all.

I mean - to me - pet builds are still funny and not anywhere near OP.

If someone wants to duel that has a pet build - it can get dicey - but if you know what to drop, they're still done.

Dantaria · April 2017

@grim_tactics, people are upset with pet builds because of PvE. PetSorc outdpses everything and not by a small margin. By very large margin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm9AHWRbUH0

52k dps single-target. Yep. Seems legit.

The only downside of this build shows in high-end vet trials: pets can be a huge nuisance. And players actually should watch them all the time.

But outside of truly difficult content? Outdps everything with no repercussions.

LadyLavina · April 2017

There are far too many threads calling for nerfs against sorc. Do people just get wrecked a few times and make a thread calling for (insert class/ability/set here)'s complete and utter destruction?

What's that you say? This isn't specifically against sorc? Please enlighten me about how a werewolf would do anything significant with this. It's about sorcs.