Stop saying necro-potence
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LadyLavina✭✭✭✭✭
✭exeeter702 wrote: »Its pronounced as like incompetence
Say it with me please...
Neh-craw-poe-tense.
Seriously you people are driving me nutz. You know who you are.
I realize that until zos or an npc in game clarifies this, the matter is up for debate and this post is my opinion.
Fixed that for you OP.PC - NA @LadyLavina 1800+ CP PvP Tank and PvP Healer0 -
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✭PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
Alright. Who wants to start that thread?Dagoth_Rac wrote: »Someone make a thread called "potence". Leave it alone for a year, then we can all start posting in it again and necro potence.
I'd do it but the mighty thread locking powers of the mods would surely smite me.PC - NA @LadyLavina 1800+ CP PvP Tank and PvP Healer1 -
Churga_Hral✭✭✭As long as people stanch wounds instead of staunching them, I don't care how they say necropotence.1 -
MAEK✭✭✭✭Ghanima_Atreides wrote: »[nɛkrəpotəns]
(Sorry, languages major. Couldn't resist.
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Wait. Doesn't this say that it's pronounced necrepotence? Or is upside down e something entirely different?
(Note: I can't really read pronounciation writing, so I may be way off track.)0 -
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✭✭LadyLavina wrote: »exeeter702 wrote: »Its pronounced as like incompetence
Say it with me please...
Neh-craw-poe-tense.
Seriously you people are driving me nutz. You know who you are.
I realize that until zos or an npc in game clarifies this, the matter is up for debate and this post is my opinion.
Fixed that for you OP.
But until that time comes would it not be appropriate to apply standard English rules to the word even though its not technically a real word. I dont see how it would specifically disobey the same rules that apply to a word like omnipotence. And that is most def. not pronounced as two seperate words.Edited by exeeter702 on March 7, 2017 10:18PM0 -
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mesmerizedish✭✭✭✭✭Ghanima_Atreides wrote: »[nɛkrəpotəns]
(Sorry, languages major. Couldn't resist.)
Wait. Doesn't this say that it's pronounced necrepotence? Or is upside down e something entirely different?
(Note: I can't really read pronounciation writing, so I may be way off track.)
It's a schwa. It's a reduced vowel like the first syllable of "about."
But the problem with the pronunciation here is that there's no indication of stress, which is the whole point of the OP.
Bottom line though is that it's not a real world.2 -
tdannay_ESO✭✭In English, syllable emphasis is prescriptive rather than descriptive. There are no prescribed "rules" for this. In this case there are plenty of examples supporting the argument for either pronunciation, so either is acceptable until one becomes standard through regular usage. Here's how I think about it:
Necro-potence does a better job of conveying the actual meaning of the word, which strikes me as being the entire point of language. Ne-CRAW-potence mispronounces both of the roots of the word so it sounds like you're emphasizing "CROP" as if the word meant something about the potency of dead cornfields. I tend to favor the way that makes it easier/quicker for people to understand, and which respects the etymology of the word, so I prefer necro-potence.
On the other hand, Ne-CRAW-potence is consistent with its closest relative, omnipotence.
On the other other hand, there aren't many examples of words ending in "potence" with a two-syllable prefix, so it's too limited of a sample size to call it a rule or even a tendency. And omnipotence doesn't alter the pronounciation of "omni" in the same way that "ne-CRAW-potence" ruins "necro" so you can easily make a case for why necropotence should be treated differently from omnipotence.
In short, I'm on team necro-potence but I don't deny the legitimacy of ne-CRAW-potence as a viable option for different reasons. English has room under its tent for all of us.
tl;dr: they're both fine but we all can feel free to continue judging each other's poor taste as we see fit.13 -
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✭Lol I had stolen an item called Pacrooti's Mole A$$es. Description said molasses so yeah Pronunciation, what pronounciation.Edited by Stopnaggin on March 7, 2017 10:32PM0 -
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✭exeeter702 wrote: »LadyLavina wrote: »exeeter702 wrote: »Its pronounced as like incompetence
Say it with me please...
Neh-craw-poe-tense.
Seriously you people are driving me nutz. You know who you are.
I realize that until zos or an npc in game clarifies this, the matter is up for debate and this post is my opinion.
Fixed that for you OP.
But until that time comes would it not be appropriate to apply standard English rules to the word even though its not technically a real word. I dont see how it would specifically disobey the same rules that apply to a word like omnipotence. And that is most def. not pronounced as two seperate words.
i'll allow it :PPC - NA @LadyLavina 1800+ CP PvP Tank and PvP Healer0 -
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✭✭✭exeeter702 wrote: »Its pronounced as like incompetence
Say it with me please...
Neh-craw-poe-tense.
Seriously you people are driving me nutz. You know who you are.
It certainly seems to be spelled as "Necropotence".
Which is broken down into "Necro" and "potence".
Why are you trying to change the O in "Necro" to an A?
You need to stop saying "Necrapotence". It's wrong and I won't stand for it!5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭How do you know what other people are calling it when there is no voice chat in this game? And even when you are on Discord/Teamspeak, how often do do people talk about this armour?Edited by MLGProPlayer on March 7, 2017 10:37PM0 -
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✭✭Churga_Hral wrote: »The necro-police try to maintain order in the necropolis.
Oh thanks.. Totally forgot about that as well. Necropolis, that has most definitely always been pronounced neh-craw-po-lis.1 -
mesmerizedish✭✭✭✭✭exeeter702 wrote: »Its pronounced as like incompetence
Say it with me please...
Neh-craw-poe-tense.
Seriously you people are driving me nutz. You know who you are.
It certainly seems to be spelled as "Necropotence".
Which is broken down into "Necro" and "potence".
Why are you trying to change the O in "Necro" to an A?
You need to stop saying "Necrapotence". It's wrong and I won't stand for it!
So do you pronounce "necropolis" as "NEH-kro-PO-lis"? Because, spoiler alert, that's wrong.
No one is trying to change the O in "necro" to an A. It's the same O as in the word "college."5 -
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✭mesmerizedish wrote: »Ghanima_Atreides wrote: »[nɛkrəpotəns]
(Sorry, languages major. Couldn't resist.)
Wait. Doesn't this say that it's pronounced necrepotence? Or is upside down e something entirely different?
(Note: I can't really read pronounciation writing, so I may be way off track.)
It's a schwa. It's a reduced vowel like the first syllable of "about."
But the problem with the pronunciation here is that there's no indication of stress, which is the whole point of the OP.
Bottom line though is that it's not a real world.
You're right, I didn't refer to stress, just sound. I guess with indication of stress it would be [nɛ́krəpótəns]?
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tdannay_ESO✭✭Necropolis and necrology are pronounced with the "craw" emphasis because of the common usages of the suffixes "polis" and "ology." We see those suffixes a lot more than we see "necro" so they take precedence.1
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mesmerizedish✭✭✭✭✭tdannay_ESO wrote: »Necropolis and necrology are pronounced with the "craw" emphasis because of the common usages of the suffixes "polis" and "ology." We see those suffixes a lot more than we see "necro" so they take precedence.
That's not at all true. Necropolis and necrology have their "ro" syllables stressed because that's how English phonetics work.3 -
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✭My favorite ESO mispronounciations:- Atronarch (atronach)
- Violent Copernicus (violet coprinus)
- Merida (Meridia)
- Ilambrius (Ilambris)
- Khajiit (cat)
I know it's wrong, and yet I still can't stop calling it "Violet Copernicus."
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Nephikah the Houseless, dunmer assassin: "I suppose I could use the break. I have a lot of business holdings now that need management."
Swum-Many-Waters, elderly argonian healer: "I think that I would enjoy writing a memoir."
Silh'ki, khajiit warrior-chef: "Would this one be able to go outside, to the nearby river? It's hard to fish without water!"
Peregrine Huntress, bosmer hunter: "Who is forcing me to stay inside, and where can I find them?"
Lorenyawe, altmer mechanist: "And why would I want to go outside in the first place? Too much to be done in the workshop."
Lorelai Magpie, breton master thief: "I'd go nuts. Lucky for me, I have a little experience sneaking out!"
Rasheda the Burning Heart, redguard knight: "I would continue my training to keep my skills sharp."
Hex-Eye Azabi, khajiit daedric priestess: "I suppose it would be lucky, then, that I built a shrine to Mephala in my backyard."
Yngva Stormhammer, nord bandit (reformed...ish): "I hate being inside even when I'm not forced to be. GET. ME. OUT."
Madam Argentia, vampire dunmer aristocrat: "I suppose it would be more of the same. I have a rather... contentious relationship with the sun."
Mazie gra-Bolga, orc scout: "Uh... I'd have to house train my bear..."
Felicia the Wanderer, imperial witch-for-hire: "What Lorelai said."
Calico Jaka-dra, retired khajiit pirate: "This one would like a rest from her grand adventures. Her jewel shop runs out of stock!"
Shimmerbeam, blind altmer psijic: "Provided that I am confined to Artaeum, I do not think I will want for things to occupy my time."
Shauna Blackfire, redguard necromancer: "Sounds like paradise. I hate people."
Kirniel the Undying, cursed bosmer warrior: "I would feel useless, not being able to fight."
Echoes-from-Dragons, argonian who thinks she's a dragon: "All the better to count my hoard!"
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✭✭✭✭✭tdannay_ESO wrote: »Necropolis and necrology are pronounced with the "craw" emphasis because of the common usages of the suffixes "polis" and "ology." We see those suffixes a lot more than we see "necro" so they take precedence.
For example, Metro-polis, but you're not going to pronounce "metro" as "metra," when it's alone.0 -
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✭✭✭mesmerizedish wrote: »exeeter702 wrote: »Its pronounced as like incompetence
Say it with me please...
Neh-craw-poe-tense.
Seriously you people are driving me nutz. You know who you are.
It certainly seems to be spelled as "Necropotence".
Which is broken down into "Necro" and "potence".
Why are you trying to change the O in "Necro" to an A?
You need to stop saying "Necrapotence". It's wrong and I won't stand for it!
So do you pronounce "necropolis" as "NEH-kro-PO-lis"? Because, spoiler alert, that's wrong.
No one is trying to change the O in "necro" to an A. It's the same O as in the word "college."
Do you pronounce it "Neh-CRAW-man-sir" or "I-CAN'T-take-A-JOKE"?
What is the Oxford preferred pronunciation for that word...? I'm not sure.0
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