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Stop saying necro-potence
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EldritchPenguin✭✭✭✭✭
Thank you, English side of the ESO forum.tdannay_ESO wrote: »In English, syllable emphasis is prescriptive rather than descriptive. There are no prescribed "rules" for this. In this case there are plenty of examples supporting the argument for either pronunciation, so either is acceptable until one becomes standard through regular usage. Here's how I think about it:
Necro-potence does a better job of conveying the actual meaning of the word, which strikes me as being the entire point of language. Ne-CRAW-potence mispronounces both of the roots of the word so it sounds like you're emphasizing "CROP" as if the word meant something about the potency of dead cornfields. I tend to favor the way that makes it easier/quicker for people to understand, and which respects the etymology of the word, so I prefer necro-potence.
On the other hand, Ne-CRAW-potence is consistent with its closest relative, omnipotence.
On the other other hand, there aren't many examples of words ending in "potence" with a two-syllable prefix, so it's too limited of a sample size to call it a rule or even a tendency. And omnipotence doesn't alter the pronounciation of "omni" in the same way that "ne-CRAW-potence" ruins "necro" so you can easily make a case for why necropotence should be treated differently from omnipotence.
In short, I'm on team necro-potence but I don't deny the legitimacy of ne-CRAW-potence as a viable option for different reasons. English has room under its tent for all of us.
tl;dr: they're both fine but we all can feel free to continue judging each other's poor taste as we see fit.Lilelle Adlis - Dark Elf Dragonknight
Vaynothah Sailenar - Dark Elf Templar
Sherivah Telvanni - Dark Elf Sorcerer
Nephiah Telvanni - Dark Elf Nightblade0 -
DaveMoeDee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭exeeter702 wrote: »Its pronounced as like incompetence
Say it with me please...
Neh-craw-poe-tense.
Seriously you people are driving me nutz. You know who you are.
I have been spared hearing that.0 -
Yolokin_Swagonborn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'm going to wait about 3 months and then necro this thread using my potent powers of necromancy.Edited by Yolokin_Swagonborn on March 8, 2017 12:35AM4 -
CromulentForumID✭✭✭✭exeeter702 wrote: »LadyLavina wrote: »exeeter702 wrote: »Its pronounced as like incompetence
Say it with me please...
Neh-craw-poe-tense.
Seriously you people are driving me nutz. You know who you are.
I realize that until zos or an npc in game clarifies this, the matter is up for debate and this post is my opinion.
Fixed that for you OP.
But until that time comes would it not be appropriate to apply standard English rules to the word even though its not technically a real word. I dont see how it would specifically disobey the same rules that apply to a word like omnipotence. And that is most def. not pronounced as two seperate words.
That is an excellent question. I'll get back to you as soon as I am done buying this Drew Wax.2 -
Tryxus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Neh-Crow-POW!!!-Tense"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
Tryxus - Guardian of the Green - Warden - PC/EU0 -
mesmerizedish✭✭✭✭✭mesmerizedish wrote: »exeeter702 wrote: »Its pronounced as like incompetence
Say it with me please...
Neh-craw-poe-tense.
Seriously you people are driving me nutz. You know who you are.
It certainly seems to be spelled as "Necropotence".
Which is broken down into "Necro" and "potence".
Why are you trying to change the O in "Necro" to an A?
You need to stop saying "Necrapotence". It's wrong and I won't stand for it!
So do you pronounce "necropolis" as "NEH-kro-PO-lis"? Because, spoiler alert, that's wrong.
No one is trying to change the O in "necro" to an A. It's the same O as in the word "college."
Do you pronounce it "Neh-CRAW-man-sir" or "I-CAN'T-take-A-JOKE"?
What is the Oxford preferred pronunciation for that word...? I'm not sure.
Necromancer is a neologism not formed in emulation of any preexisting classical word. I again feel the need to point out that "necropotence" is even more made up, so attempts to justify any pronunciation based on Latin phonetics (whence the pronunciations of words like necropolis) are doomed to failure.
And that's precisely my point. It truly does not matter which way you choose to pronounce "necropotence" because it's a fake word. There's no need to justify your pronunciation at all, and certainly no need to justify it with nonsense.
I don't know which word you're asking about in your last question, but there is only one English pronunciation for each of "necromancer" and "necropolis." There are three plurals of necropolis, based on Greek, Latin, and standard English rules respectively, so that's fun.5 -
ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭My favorite ESO mispronounciations:
[*] Khajiit (cat)
If I ever heard someone say it as (kah-jit) and not (kah-jeet) I would enter myself into an insane asylum.
CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
Quest Objective: OMG Go Talk To That Kitty!1 -
MercTheMage✭✭✭✭exeeter702 wrote: »Its pronounced as like incompetence
Say it with me please...
Neh-craw-poe-tense.
Seriously you people are driving me nutz. You know who you are.
Uhm... who gives a ***?You just going to stand there like a lemon?0 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »"Stop saying necro-potence"
Sorry.. I couldn't resist xD
The orginal Necropotence was so omg busted out good0 -
raidentenshu_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »Necro-potence.
Necro-potence in da house bruh!0 -
Churga_Hral✭✭✭
I'm sure it's pronounced kah-ZHEET.
BTW, is ne-CRAW-poe-tence the British pronunciation of that other word? Because I would say CRAH not CRAW.1 -
srfrogg23✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭mesmerizedish wrote: »mesmerizedish wrote: »exeeter702 wrote: »Its pronounced as like incompetence
Say it with me please...
Neh-craw-poe-tense.
Seriously you people are driving me nutz. You know who you are.
It certainly seems to be spelled as "Necropotence".
Which is broken down into "Necro" and "potence".
Why are you trying to change the O in "Necro" to an A?
You need to stop saying "Necrapotence". It's wrong and I won't stand for it!
So do you pronounce "necropolis" as "NEH-kro-PO-lis"? Because, spoiler alert, that's wrong.
No one is trying to change the O in "necro" to an A. It's the same O as in the word "college."
Do you pronounce it "Neh-CRAW-man-sir" or "I-CAN'T-take-A-JOKE"?
What is the Oxford preferred pronunciation for that word...? I'm not sure.
Necromancer is a neologism not formed in emulation of any preexisting classical word. I again feel the need to point out that "necropotence" is even more made up, so attempts to justify any pronunciation based on Latin phonetics (whence the pronunciations of words like necropolis) are doomed to failure.
And that's precisely my point. It truly does not matter which way you choose to pronounce "necropotence" because it's a fake word. There's no need to justify your pronunciation at all, and certainly no need to justify it with nonsense.
I don't know which word you're asking about in your last question, but there is only one English pronunciation for each of "necromancer" and "necropolis." There are three plurals of necropolis, based on Greek, Latin, and standard English rules respectively, so that's fun.
Is it weird that I got this mental picture of an old librarian with her pinky stuck in the air as I read your post?
Now, hear me through, don't interrupt. I superficially appreciate your deep linguistic analysis of the fictional word "Necropotence", but I think you might wasting time that could be better spent on...something else.
Oh, and -
NECRO-SIS!0 -
kargen27✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Now that we have that settled have a go at...
bomb
tomb
comb
and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."1 -
Churga_Hral✭✭✭
If not for completely made-up words, where would we be now? ;-)mesmerizedish wrote: »I again feel the need to point out that "necropotence" is even more made up [...]
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Tornaad✭✭✭✭✭
✭exeeter702 wrote: »Its pronounced as like incompetence
Say it with me please...
Neh-craw-poe-tense.
Seriously you people are driving me nutz. You know who you are.
I'm confused ... what does this have to do with Elder Scrolls Online?
and just to cause trouble
New-cre-po-tent
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Churga_Hral✭✭✭
I must correct myself here. "Kh" in "khajiit" should be pronounced like Russian "X" or German "ch", so: "Khah-ZHEET".Churga_Hral wrote: »I'm sure it's pronounced kah-ZHEET.
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Rouven✭✭✭✭✭
✭Walks a khajiit into...
Bless you.Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time. ~ Terry Pratchett1 -
Tabbycat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭People pronounce words according to their regional dialect. No amount of coaching from you will get them to change.
Mainly because if they suddenly start pronouncing words differently their friends will have a harder time understanding them, or make fun of them for deviating from the norm.Founder and Co-GM of The Psijic Order Guild (NA)
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