Valen_Byte wrote: »

Question...do you jump a lot while fighting? Another question...if you see someone jumping around, do you focus them?

My answers...not on purpose, and *** yes hah dam jumping beans.

I use a game pad that has a thumb stick. Razer Tartarus, the stick is my attacks and somtimes when I push down I hit the little thumb space bar resulting in me jumping. Ive always wondered if there is a reason a lot of players jump while fighting. Like do they just auto run and jump to target better? Ive never used a oldschool keyboard, cant even imagine how one would do all the movements and attacks at the same time. Tartarus for lyfe.

When I play Magsorc is usually the only time I jump in fights, jumping helps me time my rotations a lot.Even though I have Srendarr which helps me see when curse or other skills are about to hit, I'm so used to jumping to time my burst and has @DCeiver0 said it can also help with countering los in certain terrain.

I can't no scope. I don't really play ranged builds... @Just_call_me_Cola is the no scope expert. Last night he just stood on a rock spamming snipe and poison inject while I tanked folks. It was beautiful. I ended up surrounded by dead bodies and pretty much all I did was talons and self-heal.

Valen_Byte wrote: »

Question...do you jump a lot while fighting? Another question...if you see someone jumping around, do you focus them?

My answers...not on purpose, and *** yes hah dam jumping beans.

I use a game pad that has a thumb stick. Razer Tartarus, the stick is my attacks and somtimes when I push down I hit the little thumb space bar resulting in me jumping. Ive always wondered if there is a reason a lot of players jump while fighting. Like do they just auto run and jump to target better? Ive never used a oldschool keyboard, cant even imagine how one would do all the movements and attacks at the same time. Tartarus for lyfe.

I'll jump when using ranged abilities if their are multiple enemies stacked together to get a better angle to make sure I'm hitting the person I want. For example, say there are two enemies and I'm targeting one of them from range with a Magicka Sorc, but right before I'm about to finish him with my CFrags, the other guy ends up right in front of him. If I just cast the skill anyways, it'll probably hit the wrong target, but if I jump and have a higher angle before I cast it, it'll allow me to actually hit the guy in the back. I also find jumping can sometimes help hit somebody who is trying to LOS around a tree or rock or something.

Although sometimes I will jump around excessively when I'm just messing around just for *** and grins.

Valen_Byte wrote: »

Valen_Byte wrote: »

Actually Im going to go ahead and steal colas thunder on that one. I gave him that winning bow rotation. : ))

Edit to rant a bit. A lot of people ask me for build advice. Its irritating as hell to then see them acting like they came up with it all on there own. A lot of the ad in this thread even, have started out running with byte, and have been given gear/build advice. Heavy armor magDK wasnt your idea, thats what I was running when you first started in bwb. I know Im being a *** right now but Ive just had enough. Adenoma, you got your magDK build from me. Cola, you got your bow build from me. Both of you came to me for advice and then market yourselves as original. Well, your *** welcome.

I actually don't ever remember coming to you or anyone for the silliness that is my eagle eye. I defintly talked about it with a bunch of people about it but ultimately 5 marksman wasn't hard to come up with. As for bow rotation. Um snipe snipe snipe below 50? No snipe poison inj. There really isn't one that I use, and I hope no one told me to do that. I do remember some other real rotations people told me about that I tried but don't regularly use.

TLDR : I didn't get help with my bow build/didn't remember if you did tell me something that I used. Annnd it's to silly of a build for anyone to be proud of any way

Sorry if I forgot what you said! I do that alot

Just_call_me_Cola wrote: »

Valen_Byte wrote: »

Valen_Byte wrote: »

Actually Im going to go ahead and steal colas thunder on that one. I gave him that winning bow rotation. : ))

Edit to rant a bit. A lot of people ask me for build advice. Its irritating as hell to then see them acting like they came up with it all on there own. A lot of the ad in this thread even, have started out running with byte, and have been given gear/build advice. Heavy armor magDK wasnt your idea, thats what I was running when you first started in bwb. I know Im being a *** right now but Ive just had enough. Adenoma, you got your magDK build from me. Cola, you got your bow build from me. Both of you came to me for advice and then market yourselves as original. Well, your *** welcome.

I actually don't ever remember coming to you or anyone for the silliness that is my eagle eye. I defintly talked about it with a bunch of people about it but ultimately 5 marksman wasn't hard to come up with. As for bow rotation. Um snipe snipe snipe below 50? No snipe poison inj. There really isn't one that I use, and I hope no one told me to do that. I do remember some other real rotations people told me about that I tried but don't regularly use.

TLDR : I didn't get help with my bow build/didn't remember if you did tell me something that I used. Annnd it's to silly of a build for anyone to be proud of any way

Sorry if I forgot what you said! I do that alot

You wsp me. You said you had never run a bow before. You told me what you had in mind, and I told you the simple rotation that I saw you use in your video not a week later. I also told you what poisons to use. Not sure but I think I even sent you some to try out. Not suprised you dont remember. This was before snipe was the first skill in the line ovc. Whatever Im used to it by now.

Snipe build op

The point you were trying to make has gotten lost.

What do you guys think for stam builds now? No more bow back bar or just be a sniper. I kept heavy sniping when I meant to heavy inj inside keeps for a short time when I was on my stamblade. Besides that short time and my unaffected eagle eye Ive only been playing mag.

Bow seems alot more ineffective with out that dot given your trying to do mainly melee damage and not just snipe spam

Just_call_me_Cola wrote: »

The point you were trying to make has gotten lost.

What do you guys think for stam builds now? No more bow back bar or just be a sniper. I kept heavy sniping when I meant to heavy inj inside keeps for a short time when I was on my stamblade. Besides that short time and my unaffected eagle eye Ive only been playing mag.

Bow seems alot more ineffective with out that dot given your trying to do mainly melee damage and not just snipe spam

I've been playing around with snipe since the patch. I've found if you are far enough away, you can snipe then animation cxl heavy attack/poison injection to hit close to simultaneously with the snipe to drop 10k+.

I don't mean to sound rude, but I've really never ran in Byte. I've enjoyed playing around them quite a bit. I pretty much only PvP'd with my friend or I did large groups a few times back when DIG was a thing. I've literally only started playing a heavy armor magDK in the last 8-9 months. Prior to that I only played light armor magDK builds in vet and nonvet. I'll give credit where credit is due and I've learned nearly all of my heavy armor magDK from Gottbeard's primer that @DeadlyRecluse showed me and then from my own play experience.

Would it help if I said you all suck?

Stridig wrote: »

Would it help if I said you all suck?

Yes. And btw, Deciever and I are cooking up something to counter the magicka dk plague that has begun to sweep cyrodil.

Adenoma wrote: »

Is there a magDK plague? I actually haven't noticed one. It's still an underpowered class relative to others - in both vet and nonvet.

Hence the " begun". I wish ppl got my jokes... the internet is no place for inflection.

nvmd...I need a forum break hah

I don't really think you all suck.

Enipfodnuos wrote: »

Raknosh wrote: »

Adenoma wrote: »

Is there a magDK plague? I actually haven't noticed one. It's still an underpowered class relative to others - in both vet and nonvet.

LIES

I will also say tht while there are not a ton of Mag dks, the ones that are around are very op. They t not underpowered as far as I can tell. Plus if Rak calls you out, you know your in trouble....

I don't know if I would call Mag DK underpowered, but if you were to rank the Magicka and Stamina version of all the classes, I would say Mag DK is still somewhere in the bottom four. I do think that Mag DK is one of the more difficult classes to play effectively right now, but can be very strong when played well. And that could explain your observation. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that quite a few people have tried playing Mag DK, only to get frustrated and decide to start playing another class instead, and the ones that you do tend to run into are the players who have stuck with it long enough to actually become good with it. That's pretty much what happened to me, as I started playing on my Mag DK around a year ago, but got frustrated with feeling so weak and started playing other classes instead. It wasn't until a couple months ago that I decided to pick it back up and actually stick with it, and I am really glad I did because on the other side of things, once you start to get good with Mag DK, it can feel just as strong as any other class out there, and is really fun to play.