Soul Strike is OP

Libonotus · February 2017

I'm literally doing 20k damage with it non vet PVP. Straight up wrecking people

Enslaved · February 2017

Yeah, but you can do it on a single target only. Swap it for destro ulti, and you will do 25k damage in a large radius.

Chilly-McFreeze · February 2017

Just block it.

Taylor_MB · February 2017

Yet in vet PvP is basically only good for xv1'ing, apart from the few people who use it effectively solo.

Might be time for you to move onto a different campaign.

Taleof2Cities · February 2017

There are counters for it.

Also, non-vet PvP is generally new players still getting on their feet.

If you head to a vet server where players are more seasoned, you'll quickly find it's not OP ...

Libonotus · February 2017

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

There are counters for it.

Also, non-vet PvP is generally new players still getting on their feet.

If you head to a vet server where players are more seasoned, you'll quickly find it's not OP ...

Some seasoned pvpers only do non vet bc of proc sets

makeumrage · February 2017

Libonotus wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

There are counters for it.

Also, non-vet PvP is generally new players still getting on their feet.

If you head to a vet server where players are more seasoned, you'll quickly find it's not OP ...

Some seasoned pvpers only do non vet bc of proc sets

Lets not confuse seasoned with aged. Now had you said noncp i woulda gave it to ya

Taylor_MB · February 2017

Libonotus wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

There are counters for it.

Also, non-vet PvP is generally new players still getting on their feet.

If you head to a vet server where players are more seasoned, you'll quickly find it's not OP ...

Some seasoned pvpers only do non vet bc of proc sets

You are not a seasoned PvP'er when the majority of people you play against are vastly inexperienced. Your own thought of Soul Strike being OP demonstrates you and the people you are fighting lack basic counter play knowledge.

laksikus · February 2017

makeumrage wrote: »

Libonotus wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

There are counters for it.

Also, non-vet PvP is generally new players still getting on their feet.

If you head to a vet server where players are more seasoned, you'll quickly find it's not OP ...

Some seasoned pvpers only do non vet bc of proc sets

Lets not confuse seasoned with aged. Now had you said noncp i woulda gave it to ya

What has proc sets to do with noncp?
Proc sets work Too in azura.

makeumrage · February 2017

laksikus wrote: »

makeumrage wrote: »

Libonotus wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

There are counters for it.

Also, non-vet PvP is generally new players still getting on their feet.

If you head to a vet server where players are more seasoned, you'll quickly find it's not OP ...

Some seasoned pvpers only do non vet bc of proc sets

Lets not confuse seasoned with aged. Now had you said noncp i woulda gave it to ya

What has proc sets to do with noncp?
Proc sets work Too in azura.

Nothing. The point was no seasoned player would waste time in nonvet. Nor could you call yourself seasoned playing that level of competition. I understand some vets like noncp though.

Beardimus · February 2017

The skill has so many counters. Sure you if you dual a noob then they burn..but generally people.block it or out heal it, the dps maths is quite low.

laksikus · February 2017

makeumrage wrote: »

laksikus wrote: »

makeumrage wrote: »

Libonotus wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

There are counters for it.

Also, non-vet PvP is generally new players still getting on their feet.

If you head to a vet server where players are more seasoned, you'll quickly find it's not OP ...

Some seasoned pvpers only do non vet bc of proc sets

Lets not confuse seasoned with aged. Now had you said noncp i woulda gave it to ya

What has proc sets to do with noncp?
Proc sets work Too in azura.

Nothing. The point was no seasoned player would waste time in nonvet. Nor could you call yourself seasoned playing that level of competition. I understand some vets like noncp though.

There are as many noobs in TF as in bwb. Many players never steped into cyrodil pre vet and even some noobs join Other campaigns instead of bwb
The only differences between azura and bwb are less lag, nearly no proc Sets and no destro ulti spam

BRogueNZ · February 2017

dampen magic, return fire with great gusto

Libonotus · February 2017

Here we have the demonstration of elitism "if you don't play vet campaigns you're trash"

Taylor_MB · February 2017

Libonotus wrote: »

Here we have the demonstration of elitism "if you don't play vet campaigns you're trash"

Incorrect.

Someone who doesn't know basic counter play, playing against other people who don't know basic counter play, claiming a skill is OP. You are being judged on your basic lack of knowledge.

Here, I'll help you out:
• Stamina: Block and heal
• Magicka: Shield and heal if even necessary
• Nightblade: Cloak after magelight orb vanishes

Against most people who use Soul Strike (not running Soulshine, not built for max damage, using it as an opener) pop a HoT and/or shield and unleash on them. They will panic cancel their ultimate.

If you truly are doing 20k damage to players, that is a very clear and obvious indication they have no clue what they are doing. Skills are not "OP" because you can kill inexperienced players who have not yet learnt a counter play.

Edit: It's like saying Blazplars are OP, they really are not, it's just that even fewer people know how to counter that playstyle.

NoFlash · February 2017

When this ultimate is used against me, I just shrug it off then run away since it draws multiple toons to attack me. If I have a ultimate ready then my eyes open wide as all the free kills attack me thinking they have an easy kill, only to get the tables turned and have their hp reach zero real quick. Feelsgoodman

Libonotus · February 2017

Taylor_MB wrote: »

Libonotus wrote: »

Here we have the demonstration of elitism "if you don't play vet campaigns you're trash"

Incorrect.

Someone who doesn't know basic counter play, playing against other people who don't know basic counter play, claiming a skill is OP. You are being judged on your basic lack of knowledge.

Here, I'll help you out:
• Stamina: Block and heal
• Magicka: Shield and heal if even necessary
• Nightblade: Cloak after magelight orb vanishes

Against most people who use Soul Strike (not running Soulshine, not built for max damage, using it as an opener) pop a HoT and/or shield and unleash on them. They will panic cancel their ultimate.

If you truly are doing 20k damage to players, that is a very clear and obvious indication they have no clue what they are doing. Skills are not "OP" because you can kill inexperienced players who have not yet learnt a counter play.

In all honesty I stun them and then pop the ultimate

LordTareq · February 2017

It does something like 8.5k damage per second. But makes the caster vulnerable to damage (blocking cancels it). Most dps can score hits of 6k+ on their main spammable damage ability, coupled with 2.5k or so from animation cancelled light attacks that's also 8.5k per second. So what exactly is overpowered about the ultimate? If all else its channel duration should be halved to make it more useful considering its rather high ultimate cost.

Rohamad_Ali · February 2017

L2P Issue .

SaRuZ · February 2017

Just slot Prox detonation with Eye of the Flame and have your 10 friends rolling with you do the same. Synch ulti's and reign hell fire on all, no skill necessary

laksikus · February 2017

Taylor_MB wrote: »

Libonotus wrote: »

Here we have the demonstration of elitism "if you don't play vet campaigns you're trash"

Incorrect.

Someone who doesn't know basic counter play, playing against other people who don't know basic counter play, claiming a skill is OP. You are being judged on your basic lack of knowledge.

Here, I'll help you out:
• Stamina: Block and heal
• Magicka: Shield and heal if even necessary
• Nightblade: Cloak after magelight orb vanishes

Against most people who use Soul Strike (not running Soulshine, not built for max damage, using it as an opener) pop a HoT and/or shield and unleash on them. They will panic cancel their ultimate.

If you truly are doing 20k damage to players, that is a very clear and obvious indication they have no clue what they are doing. Skills are not "OP" because you can kill inexperienced players who have not yet learnt a counter play.

Edit: It's like saying Blazplars are OP, they really are not, it's just that even fewer people know how to counter that playstyle.

You said something totally different to the quote you used.
You can get 20k hits in vet Too against noobs.

Taylor_MB · February 2017

laksikus wrote: »

You said something totally different to the quote you used.

What?

laksikus wrote: »

You can get 20k hits in vet Too against noobs.

So? A skill isn't OP because it wrecks "noobs" who have not had the experience to learn counterplay yet.

Volrion · February 2017

Lol

ku5h · February 2017

Libonotus wrote: »

Taylor_MB wrote: »

Libonotus wrote: »

Here we have the demonstration of elitism "if you don't play vet campaigns you're trash"

Incorrect.

Someone who doesn't know basic counter play, playing against other people who don't know basic counter play, claiming a skill is OP. You are being judged on your basic lack of knowledge.

Here, I'll help you out:
• Stamina: Block and heal
• Magicka: Shield and heal if even necessary
• Nightblade: Cloak after magelight orb vanishes

Against most people who use Soul Strike (not running Soulshine, not built for max damage, using it as an opener) pop a HoT and/or shield and unleash on them. They will panic cancel their ultimate.

If you truly are doing 20k damage to players, that is a very clear and obvious indication they have no clue what they are doing. Skills are not "OP" because you can kill inexperienced players who have not yet learnt a counter play.

In all honesty I stun them and then pop the ultimate

Channeling Soul Assault grants you CC immunity, no point trying to stun them.

cpuScientist · February 2017

ku5h wrote: »

Libonotus wrote: »

Taylor_MB wrote: »

Libonotus wrote: »

Here we have the demonstration of elitism "if you don't play vet campaigns you're trash"

Incorrect.

Someone who doesn't know basic counter play, playing against other people who don't know basic counter play, claiming a skill is OP. You are being judged on your basic lack of knowledge.

Here, I'll help you out:
• Stamina: Block and heal
• Magicka: Shield and heal if even necessary
• Nightblade: Cloak after magelight orb vanishes

Against most people who use Soul Strike (not running Soulshine, not built for max damage, using it as an opener) pop a HoT and/or shield and unleash on them. They will panic cancel their ultimate.

If you truly are doing 20k damage to players, that is a very clear and obvious indication they have no clue what they are doing. Skills are not "OP" because you can kill inexperienced players who have not yet learnt a counter play.

In all honesty I stun them and then pop the ultimate

Channeling Soul Assault grants you CC immunity, no point trying to stun them.

It gives you a free unmitigated tick of damage. If they are not stunned then they will just block or heal or shield through it. If you get them with a nice burst them drop them on the ground them pop the ultimate. Or run them out of stam them run it. Well you get more bang for your buck.

SnubbS · February 2017

It isn't OP -- but it's probably the most annoying skill in the game when you're trying to 1vX.

Unsent.Soul · February 2017

Lol roasted...

Libonotus wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

There are counters for it.

Also, non-vet PvP is generally new players still getting on their feet.

If you head to a vet server where players are more seasoned, you'll quickly find it's not OP ...

Some seasoned pvpers only do non vet bc of proc sets

Libonotus wrote: »

Here we have the demonstration of elitism "if you don't play vet campaigns you're trash"

Can't call foul when you opened the door champ.

TequilaFire · February 2017

Soul assault followed by RD, oh yeah!

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Dragonnord · February 2017

Sorry, it's not OP, it's weak.

I laugh when someone launches Soul Strike on me in Haderus our Trueflame as they do me literally nothing, to the point I believe they even replenish some of my missing health.

Honestly, when I'm hit with Soul Strike my health bar doesn't move at all.

AFrostWolf · February 2017

Libonotus wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

There are counters for it.

Also, non-vet PvP is generally new players still getting on their feet.

If you head to a vet server where players are more seasoned, you'll quickly find it's not OP ...

Some seasoned pvpers only do non vet bc of proc sets

Pretty much. Blackwater Blade is basically crafting sets and the occasional 1T set ATM. Everywhere else you have monster helms, proc sets, dungeon sets, champ points, ECT ECT ECT. BwB is simple and sweet. Not super complex and more enjoyable.