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EU 3vs3 and 2vs2 ladder - open for all skill levels - Ranking for week 3 is done!

Talohir
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We have the pleasure of announcing the creation of Crucible!

Crucible is a brand new player organized battleground guild, on the European PC megaserver.
We already had battelgrounds on EU some months ago and after seeing the great initiative of the NA guild "Inner Fire" starting up, we decided to resurrect it on EU as well.
The goal of this guild is to give access to small scale pvp for anyone who doesn't want to suffer the laggy experience of trueflame.
We accept and actively search for all skill levels! We will match you up with equal opponents - keep on reading to figure out how.

The point is NOT to promote e-peen but to create a fun pvp environment for those who enjoy small PvP!

We would like to focus on 3v3 matches for starters.
We plan on doing weekly fight nights, ladders and tournaments with a variety of different locations and game modes.
We will try to avoid events where 90% of your time is spent waiting for your turn to play. The goal is to have everyone fight and have fun.

We have setup a discord server where you can search for a structured pvp fight by joining the lf-XvsX channels. You can also ask in guild chat during our fight nights.

"We plan on having a weekly ladder system, where all registered teams fight at any convenient time during the week, and with scoring given out at the end of the week. Further explanations will be given out to those who are interested to join us.
The ladder will also allow weaker groups to find equal opponents as it will allow to pick the team that you want to fight.

Matches

Bonus Challenges
"There will be 2 bonus challenges per week that you can do. These will be predefined and against an opponent in close point/rank range and will account 10 bonus points if done."

Challenges
You can challenge and fight every team as often as you want and they agree to it

If you don't do any fights during the week you will loose 20 points.

Ranked fights:
- 3vs3 / 2vs
- Best of 3
- Maximum 5min per round
- Draw in case of equal number of players alive
- Winner gets 15 points for win against weaker oponent / 20 for equal oponent / 25 for better oponent (according to current ladder at that point)
- Draw will result in 5 points against weaker oponent / 10 for equal oponent / 15 for better oponent
- Loss results in loosing 5 points against better oponent / 10 for equal oponent / 15 for weaker oponent

The ladder will always be recalculated at the end of the week.

Concerning the rule sets, we plan to reuse some that "Inner Fire" have proposed, including but not limited to :
  • No Malubeth
  • No Selene’s
  • No Reactive
  • No Trollking
  • No Fasalla
  • No more than one instant damage proc set
  • No vicecannon (currently bugged)
  • No resurrection
  • No poisons
  • No double class per team
  • No siege
  • No changing of cp, gear, or skills during match
  • Only one destro ult per team
  • No stealthing (although cloaking is allowed, aswell as invisibilty pots)
  • No restriction on potions
  • Matches last 10 min max
  • Fight starts with 0 ult
  • (No Duroks) will be tested and maybe removed


If you are interested in joining us, message @Talohir, @ThanosOL (@Etaniel on forums) or @PerfectJam and we will invite you into the guild. Fight nights will start on Thursday next week
If you are interested to join but have no guild slot, you can always join discord to participate. We will do our best to keep you informed about upcomming events.
Also, solo players are more than welcome and will be able to team up with other solos!

Further Information -> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XTmLriKvB3DX4jbkcmMB1wDCDTS9v0HnsGG8XLLLDJU/edit?usp=sharing (make sure to check the tabs on bottom as well)
FAQ

What is a ladder system?
"A ladder system is a competitive all time leader board in which you can challenge opponents to gain points and rank up.
Our ladder system is very close to the ladder system ESL uses."

Why a ladder system?
"We think a ladder systems allows for very competitive esports whilst giving teams and players of every skill level a chance to participate as they will meet equal components.
Equal opponents are ensured by the nature of a ladder as you will fight people with a number of points close to yours."

I am not that experienced in structured PvP and/or small scale yet - is this a problem?
"No not at all. We accept players and teams of all skill levels and we will try to match you with equal opponents.
The Crucible is a good way to start improving your gameplay!"

Are there Set/Skills etc restrictions?
"Yes please check the "Rules" tab in the linked google docs for further information.
The Rules are subject to change upon participant feedback, balance changes and bug fixes. We will notify participants as we change them."

Do I have to join the guild?
No. We are aware that not everyone has a spare guild slot. You can also get latest information and contact here and in discord

How do I sign up a team?
Send one of the officers the following information: Team Name, 3 @names including class + stam/mag

When does registration end?
You can sign up your team at any point in time

Can you be part of several teams?
Yes you can be part of up to 2 teams at the moment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNssX7tgY2s
Edited by Talohir on March 14, 2017 4:29PM
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  • Etaniel
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    We will try out our ladder system starting on monday ! Get a 3 man team and contact us to register for next week, and to get more info.

    After the first week of testing, we will gather feedback on our rules and system and make necessary changes.
    Edited by Etaniel on February 1, 2017 10:19PM
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  • Taylor_MB
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    Does no "e-peen" really work with a ladder system in place?
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  • Jitterbug
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    sounds awesome!
  • Etaniel
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    Taylor_MB wrote: »
    Does no "e-peen" really work with a ladder system in place?

    Ofc, you get your ego boosted if you are high ranked, but we are putting up strict rules about flaming, taunting etc in our guild chat, so any unnecessary bragging won't stay for long.
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  • Lakeh
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    This will be awesome if done right!
    Cant wait to get some real competitive PvP :smiley:
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  • NightbladeMechanics
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    Cool! I want to know how your ladder system affects guild participation and community!! We have some guild rank initiatives we'll be implementing to reward promotion, but we've not discussed a ladder system. I like that idea...if you can pull it off without resulting in drama.
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  • Mr_Nobody
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    AP farming ~ good idea though. NA needs that too. Or zos needs to allow character transfers ~
    Edited by Mr_Nobody on February 2, 2017 7:02AM
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  • KisoValley
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    Good luck friends
  • Etaniel
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    We'd like to emphasize on the fact we welcome players from all skill levels to join us. Once the ladder system is launched, you will be matched against similar performing teams. This means that if you perform poorly, we won't match you up against the top ranked teams.

    And this should be a perfect training opportunity for the upcoming 4v4v4 battlegrounds in june!
    If you don't have friends interested in small scale, joining the guild is a good opportunity to meet people who will help you find new teammates.

    By the way, we already have 4 teams registered for next week's test ladder !
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  • Kas
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    " -No double class per team"
    rip stamplar. good rule, though. sorcs kinda need mines but tripled stack mines are somewhat ***, and so are 3 reactive templars spamming bol for 15min :D etc etc

    hope this will still be alive and active after my ski vacation in two weeks
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  • Etaniel
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    Kas wrote: »
    " -No double class per team"
    rip stamplar. good rule, though. sorcs kinda need mines but tripled stack mines are somewhat ***, and so are 3 reactive templars spamming bol for 15min :D etc etc

    hope this will still be alive and active after my ski vacation in two weeks

    Just to clarify, "no double class" means you can have a stamplar and a mag plar, but not two magplars or two stamplars.
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  • pjwb16_ESO
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    Kas wrote: »
    " -No double class per team"
    rip stamplar. good rule, though. sorcs kinda need mines but tripled stack mines are somewhat ***, and so are 3 reactive templars spamming bol for 15min :D etc etc

    hope this will still be alive and active after my ski vacation in two weeks

    RIP our glorious Mine Stacking from the 2v2 event
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  • Talohir
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    Added FAQ and link to spreadsheet with current information on rules, faq, ladder, teams etc
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  • Etaniel
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    6 teams confirmed for next week so far, more coming :)
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  • Lieblingsjunge
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    pjwb16_ESO wrote: »
    Kas wrote: »
    " -No double class per team"
    rip stamplar. good rule, though. sorcs kinda need mines but tripled stack mines are somewhat ***, and so are 3 reactive templars spamming bol for 15min :D etc etc

    hope this will still be alive and active after my ski vacation in two weeks

    RIP our glorious Mine Stacking from the 2v2 event

    Stamsorc-mines inc?
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    Awesome initative ^.^!
    Ignorance is the greatest weapon of tyranny.
    PC - EU.
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    Tiny Liebs(EP) - Very Tiny. Also heals.
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    The Dominàtrix(AD) - Chains, whip, whip, whip.
    Fluffy Furball Kitten(DC) - Kittycat, meow.
    Your Face(EP) - People make bad jokes about my name =(
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  • KisoValley
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    pjwb16_ESO wrote: »
    Kas wrote: »
    " -No double class per team"
    rip stamplar. good rule, though. sorcs kinda need mines but tripled stack mines are somewhat ***, and so are 3 reactive templars spamming bol for 15min :D etc etc

    hope this will still be alive and active after my ski vacation in two weeks

    RIP our glorious Mine Stacking from the 2v2 event

    Stamsorc-mines inc?
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    Awesome initative ^.^!

    "Never disrespect a woman leading a zerg!" - @KisoValley
  • cokris
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    Unplanned testrun of 3v3 fights tonight - It was alot of fun!

    Thanks and hope to see you soon again! <3
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  • Cinbri
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    I understand forbid of Fasalla as it can be stacked. But why no Durok? This set was designed for counter healing builds in small-scale fights. Adding sets that not bugged or not overperfoming and removing counterplay based by personal preferences will unevitable ends badly, i.e. "fight nude with only fists".
    Edited by Cinbri on February 4, 2017 7:30AM
  • Lieblingsjunge
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    KisoValley wrote: »
    pjwb16_ESO wrote: »
    Kas wrote: »
    " -No double class per team"
    rip stamplar. good rule, though. sorcs kinda need mines but tripled stack mines are somewhat ***, and so are 3 reactive templars spamming bol for 15min :D etc etc

    hope this will still be alive and active after my ski vacation in two weeks

    RIP our glorious Mine Stacking from the 2v2 event

    Stamsorc-mines inc?
    -

    Awesome initative ^.^!

    "Never disrespect a woman leading a zerg!" - @KisoValley

    Yes, yes, yes. YOu know you like it when I zerg you :>
    --
    Last night was super fun! Getting people together for unplanned 3v3 & fighting each other. Had loads of fun last night! So if you're considering joining the Guild / Coming to our 3v3-events, you're welcome! I can promise alot of fun & a lot of entertaining fights in a friendly environment. We're all there to improve! Discord is also set up with private rooms for fighting & a lobby where people basically just stay & chat, plan teams, talk about fights etc.

    You don't need a fixed team to show up. Just show up! :>
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    Tiny Liebs(EP) - Very Tiny. Also heals.
    Lieblingsmädchen(DC) - Magplar is love.
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  • Talohir
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    @Cinbri thx for the honest feedback - we don't do any decisions based on personal preference! We removed it from the banned and will test it in the ladder test week that starts sunday.
    Btw are you registering a team as well?

    @cokris @Lieblingsjunge thanks - was a really good start yesterday!
    Edited by Talohir on February 4, 2017 12:11PM
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  • Cinbri
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    Might join with Hope, but definetly will skip next week as it will be just 100% of PvE farming of new crafting motifs and gold grinding.
    P.S.: would like also to see 2v2 in near future.
    Edited by Cinbri on February 4, 2017 12:36PM
  • Talohir
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    @Cinbri this is good news - hope to see a hope team!
    And yes if we find enough people interested we are thinking about 2vs2 or other things like a crafted set ladder.
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  • MipMip
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    --
    Last night was super fun! Getting people together for unplanned 3v3 & fighting each other. Had loads of fun last night! So if you're considering joining the Guild / Coming to our 3v3-events, you're welcome! I can promise alot of fun & a lot of entertaining fights in a friendly environment. We're all there to improve! Discord is also set up with private rooms for fighting & a lobby where people basically just stay & chat, plan teams, talk about fights etc.

    You don't need a fixed team to show up. Just show up! :>

    Can confirm all this!
    A great initiative :)

    PC EU ∙ PC NA

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    - Vilestride
  • Etaniel
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    Matchups for this week are up !

    KiteSquad vs Guars
    KiteSquad vs "1234"
    Zerg Squad vs "1234"
    Zerg Squad vs Aether
    Aether vs 4th Alliance
    4th Alliance vs Crucible(EP)
    Rise of the huns vs Mipp
    Rise of the huns vs Crucible(EP)
    Mipp vs Crucible(DC)
    Guars vs Crucible(EP)

    Check the google docs to see the @names of your opponents !

    Good luck to the participants, record some fights and post them here !
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  • Talohir
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    Fights for week 6 are ongoing - this weeks fight night will be on Thursday 8pm GMT.
    Join us and watch some ranked fights or participate in the open fights!

    Ladder registration for week 7 is open from now till Sunday - keep those 3v3 teams coming.
    Would be nice to have 20 teams in total for end of next week!

    We are also thinking about a 2vs2 Ladder - send a message with "Team Name + @name1 class/stamOrMag + @name2 class/stamOrMag" to @Talohir or @ThanosOL - Ladder starts when we get 10 Teams together!
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  • Lieblingsjunge
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    2v2 HYPEEEEEE
    Ignorance is the greatest weapon of tyranny.
    PC - EU.
    Lieblingsjunge(AD) - Racechanged Argonian :< | AR 50 - No double AP or Bleakers involved |
    Sits-On-Cacti(DC) - Problem?
    Fail-With-Tail(AD) - Healing Springs-spammer :<
    Tiny Liebs(EP) - Very Tiny. Also heals.
    Lieblingsmädchen(DC) - Magplar is love.
    The Dominàtrix(AD) - Chains, whip, whip, whip.
    Fluffy Furball Kitten(DC) - Kittycat, meow.
    Your Face(EP) - People make bad jokes about my name =(
    Liebs-With-Trees(AD) - Male argo with a big tail :>

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    My title: The Maneater, Destroyer of Maneuvers, Bane of Potatoes, she who devours them, The Black Hole, the humorless, first of her name.
  • MipMip
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    2 vs 2: yay! :)
    Registered a team!
    Edited by MipMip on February 7, 2017 2:38PM
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  • Lieblingsjunge
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    MipMip wrote: »
    2 vs 2: yay! :)
    Registered a team!

    Awesome, Mip! :D
    Ignorance is the greatest weapon of tyranny.
    PC - EU.
    Lieblingsjunge(AD) - Racechanged Argonian :< | AR 50 - No double AP or Bleakers involved |
    Sits-On-Cacti(DC) - Problem?
    Fail-With-Tail(AD) - Healing Springs-spammer :<
    Tiny Liebs(EP) - Very Tiny. Also heals.
    Lieblingsmädchen(DC) - Magplar is love.
    The Dominàtrix(AD) - Chains, whip, whip, whip.
    Fluffy Furball Kitten(DC) - Kittycat, meow.
    Your Face(EP) - People make bad jokes about my name =(
    Liebs-With-Trees(AD) - Male argo with a big tail :>

    Officer/Sandwitch of Zerg Squad
    My title: The Maneater, Destroyer of Maneuvers, Bane of Potatoes, she who devours them, The Black Hole, the humorless, first of her name.
  • Etaniel
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    First ranked fights happened yesterday at fight night, thanks to all who participated !
    Rankings have been updated on the google docs.

    You can already sign up a team for next week's 3v3 ladder, or sign up for the 2v2s
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  • Cinbri
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    Judging from google doc majority of 3v3 teams didn't fight while it already almost 12feb. And there is no any video of passed battles to witness their awesomeness. Kinda sad. Does really noone wana fight in fair environment? Or is it prove that pvpers also pve a lot?
    Edited by Cinbri on February 11, 2017 4:30PM
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