ComboBreaker88 wrote: »This has been that way since beta. ZOS doesnt care. Guild stalls are the BIGGEST gold sink in the game. This "exploit" dosent negatively impact that sink. And does not impact the guilds in the game. You want a stall, you have to out bid the others trying to get it.
ZOS, those who work there and respond here, have a system. For illustration purposes I'm going to say they run the biggest guild in the game. There is a lot of member input, they have to discuss it with the other guild leaders and find out the impact on the guild. Bonus, someone is going to be upset no matter what happens. I suggest we let the machine run, give them good and sound input, and remain positive. Would you want to converse with someone if they say you don't care? (it's their job, professionals, let's try and treat them with respect.
Traders Guild Sink: Totally agree, on both accounts.
Doesn't impact guilds though? I would say judging by the amount of responses and people getting forum accounts just to respond that it's already had an impact. I'm just as eager to find out what happens as everyone else. To see if it's going to continue to impact guilds and how so moving forward.
Bidding: To quote BB King, "You have to pay the cost, to be the boss."
@Redmoonga
Kingpin, my new lord and master, since ZOS has decided to remain silent on this matter, it is time for you to begin forming your empire. Remember us little people when you are rich and famous!
I'm sure all this talk of trader exploits must be false. We have it on good authority from a number of people on this forum that trading abuse can only happen with an auction house and isn't possible with the present guild trader system !
I'm sure all this talk of trader exploits must be false. We have it on good authority from a number of people on this forum that trading abuse can only happen with an auction house and isn't possible with the present guild trader system !
ROFL... I think the point is that no system is perfect and auction houses have their own serious issues. The Trader system though is unique to ESO and a major selling point to many players.
Today the same Trader Exploit happened on PS4,
Empty Guild won a Trader then sold it to a Big Guild and disbanded.
Have all screenshots. Will there be an action against it?
@ZOS_GinaBruno
@ZOS_JasonI
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom
@ZOS_GaryA
@ZOS_TristanK
I thought the entire point of using Traders was to prevent one guild from gaining a monopoly over others. If this is happening and continues to happen, ZOS might as well just pull the whole thing and change to a global Auction House system instead.
I'm sure all this talk of trader exploits must be false. We have it on good authority from a number of people on this forum that trading abuse can only happen with an auction house and isn't possible with the present guild trader system !
ROFL... I think the point is that no system is perfect and auction houses have their own serious issues. The Trader system though is unique to ESO and a major selling point to many players.
Plus this exploit opens the opportunity for me to take my rightful place as the Kingpin of Tamriel!
I'm sure all this talk of trader exploits must be false. We have it on good authority from a number of people on this forum that trading abuse can only happen with an auction house and isn't possible with the present guild trader system !
ROFL... I think the point is that no system is perfect and auction houses have their own serious issues. The Trader system though is unique to ESO and a major selling point to many players.
Plus this exploit opens the opportunity for me to take my rightful place as the Kingpin of Tamriel!
Lord_Archaic wrote: »And yet the person doesn't show us the guild that "took over"......like if you want to punish people........give their names.....otherwise you're just not doing anything to bring them to light.....
Lord_Archaic wrote: »And yet the person doesn't show us the guild that "took over"......like if you want to punish people........give their names.....otherwise you're just not doing anything to bring them to light.....
The forums have a rule banning "naming and shaming" so no one can call out any player or guild.
I have no doubt those who used the exploit were reported but its clear that ZOS has given their tacit approval of this method to get multiple backup traders for a guild. Main guild loses the bid? No worries we'll disband one of our backup guilds and the main guild can then hire that now open Trader for the week.
Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »Lord_Archaic wrote: »And yet the person doesn't show us the guild that "took over"......like if you want to punish people........give their names.....otherwise you're just not doing anything to bring them to light.....
The forums have a rule banning "naming and shaming" so no one can call out any player or guild.
I have no doubt those who used the exploit were reported but its clear that ZOS has given their tacit approval of this method to get multiple backup traders for a guild. Main guild loses the bid? No worries we'll disband one of our backup guilds and the main guild can then hire that now open Trader for the week.
I don't really get the whole "Name & Shame" all games have, if someone has done something wrong multiple times and knows what they are doing then shouldn't we have the right to know who they are?
Totes-Bode wrote: »There's one in Daggerfall today called "Insert Guild Name Here." I have a screenshot, but the reply form isn't allowing me to attach an image.
Totes-Bode wrote: »There's one in Daggerfall today called "Insert Guild Name Here." I have a screenshot, but the reply form isn't allowing me to attach an image.
Today the same Trader Exploit happened on PS4,
Empty Guild won a Trader then sold it to a Big Guild and disbanded.
Have all screenshots. Will there be an action against it?
@ZOS_GinaBruno
@ZOS_JasonI
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom
@ZOS_GaryA
@ZOS_TristanK
Totes-Bode wrote: »There's one in Daggerfall today called "Insert Guild Name Here." I have a screenshot, but the reply form isn't allowing me to attach an image.
You seriously tried to report them? Based solely on their guild name?
What is it with people's urge to be tattle-tells in this game? If it isn't hurting you, let it go, grow up.
I noticed something funky that happened in Rawl'kha during the trader flip on 1/22/2017.
The guild 'Guild for Testing' won the bid for the guild trader 'Ronuril'. Moments later the guild trader was owned by an entirely different guild.
Here are some screen shots showing the initial guild's ownership of the said guild trader:
It looks like the initial guild might have disbanded and the second guild hired the spot. This brings up some immediate concern for this behavior to be abused. If a large trade guild bids on one location, loses their bid, and makes a bid on a second location with a 'throw away guild' it seems as though the throw away guild could be disbanded and immediately hired by the primary guild. I cannot say whether or not this was the case in this scenario and I'm not going to name the guild that took over the spot, but this needs to be addressed.
Today the same Trader Exploit happened on PS4,
Empty Guild won a Trader then sold it to a Big Guild and disbanded.
Have all screenshots. Will there be an action against it?
@ZOS_GinaBruno
@ZOS_JasonI
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom
@ZOS_GaryA
@ZOS_TristanK