Why is fishing not more popular?

Jemcrystal · January 2017

This is not suppose to look like a [snip] thread. Constructive answers only plz. NO HATERS!
I'm pondering why my bait collects, from a farmer's perspective, do not sell.

➶New Life Festival 2016

What could be done to improve the popularity of fishing? Or more to the point, bait sales.

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leepalmer95 · January 2017

Because it doesn't make much gold.

Apherius · January 2017

what could be done ? increase drop rate of Blue / green fish . personally i d'ont finishing because achievement take too long .

Rosveen · January 2017

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Because it doesn't make much gold.

And it's dreadfully boring when you do it alone.

Phinix1 · January 2017

It was more popular until the drop rate on Perfect Roe was uber-nerfed from 1 in 100 fillets to 1 in 200 on average.

Liofa · January 2017

I am fishing half an hour every day or two in Stonefalls river for more than 4 months . Still didn't get that 1 blue fish .

icontrive · January 2017

It's boring with little reward. I wish they made fishing require more skill rather than pushing one button. I would love to see fishing turn into somewhat of a mini game that allowed players to upgrade poles and lines. Also the ability to actually see a fish and mount it in your house would be cool.

TrueGreenSmoker · January 2017

ZoS should have made a skillline about fishing I know many people who want to get the achievement title and for console the trophy/achievement

Abeille · January 2017

Liofa wrote: »

I am fishing half an hour every day or two in Stonefalls river for more than 4 months . Still didn't get that 1 blue fish .

I think this is one of the reasons. I enjoy fishing, but after a while trying to get a certain fish it really gets frustrating.

When you have a friend to fish with you, it is better.

Also, if we had a different setting for reeling in that isn't the same as interacting with the environment, I would map a mouse button to it so I would be able to quickly stop talking with people on chat and reel in even if I was typing a longer message.

kevlarto_ESO · January 2017

I find fishing fun in short bursts, but over all it is boring, and lack luster and not many reasons to fish, perfect roe and titles, I guess, not exciting fish that might pop up and beat you down or something, some night when I have insomnia I log on and fish or gather resources in about an hour or less insomnia cured

Glurin · January 2017

It's not popular because you don't get much out of it. You get:

*Fish, a single provisioning component for select recipes that you probably don't even use.
*Perfect roe, which is uber rare and again only used in a couple of recipes and is likely the only real reason people go fishing.
*Vendor trash, as in it's specifically there to be sold to a vendor.
*Wet gunny sacks, which contain an incredibly easy to obtain crafting component that you've probably been tossing on the ground because you already have several stacks of them, if you collect it at all.

Oh, and an achievement for collecting all the types of vendor trash in each zone.

Not a particularly rewarding experience.

AntMan100673 · January 2017

The 2 reasons to fish are (1) perfect roe and (2) the achievements/title.

(1) the drop rate of perfect roe is too low, imo, for it to be a good way to make gold so people won't buy bait to fish for perfect roe.

(2) most people that would go for the title at a faster rate than they pick up bait themselves probably have the title by now so that market has gone.

The only way people would consider buying bait to fish would be if the selling price of the green/blue fish was significantly increased and/or the drop rate for perfect roe was increased. I'm not even sure either of those would work as fishing is quite boring - press a button to cast; wait; press a button to reel in; repeat - it would have to be a lot more profitable than the alternative ways of making gold to get enough people to do it to make a market for bait.

sneakymitchell · January 2017

Jemcrystal wrote: »

This is not suppose to look like a §h¥ε┼i thread. Constructive answers only plz. NO HATERS!
I'm pondering why my bait collects, from a farmer's perspective, do not sell.

➶New Life Festival 2016

What could be done to improve the popularity of fishing? Or more to the point, bait sales.

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Remember in housing there is exclusive furniture and stuff for ur house wondering if fishing achievements will be on the list.

dday3six · January 2017

Because it doesn't feed much into the rest of the crafting system, so it's got little economic gain for time spent.

Personally I find it to be very boring as well.

Runs · January 2017

I wish it gave experience. I would say I understand why it doesn't, but I don't. If the reasoning was it's not combat I could understand except lockpicking gives experience. You could say there is no real skill involved, but the time is a big factor. People under the CP cap(or at least me when I was under the cap) feel pressured to earn their CP first, so fishing tends to become a retirement activity.

I also wish it wasn't so... monotonous. Give me some other methods... Give me a skill line... Allow me to craft a net, set fish traps... Make my own jigs... For the love of god allow me to fly fish.

Or keep it as is, because putting all that into the game would distract from better use of dev time.

Integral1900 · January 2017

I would honestly rather do paperwork

QUEZ420 · January 2017

It should have a skill line to lvl wit skill point investments like other professions, anything to give incentive to fish.

lihentian · January 2017

if we can fish up random lockbox or treasure.. it might be actually worthwhile to fish

Astanphaeus · January 2017

It's boring and doesn't make much gold while needing you to actually pay attention to what is happening. Anyone who is going to put up with that is already a farmer and has their own bait.

Milvan · January 2017

Archeage have one of most fun and awesome fishing system ever. Perharps ESO could copy a thing or two from them.

jedtb16_ESO · January 2017

Jemcrystal wrote: »

This is not suppose to look like a §h¥ε┼i thread. Constructive answers only plz. NO HATERS!
I'm pondering why my bait collects, from a farmer's perspective, do not sell.

➶New Life Festival 2016

What could be done to improve the popularity of fishing? Or more to the point, bait sales.

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ummm.... did it not occur to you that the way you collect bait is exactly the same way everyone else collects bait?

i do a lot of fishing. i never buy bait because.... i don't need to.

FortheloveofKrist · January 2017

Because it's the most realistic thing in the game. Just like actual fishing.

leepalmer95 · January 2017

Yeah a few things could make it better.

Sunken chests (different rarity) - White = simple chest etc... They could basically act like usual open world chests with a chance to get zone appropiate gear from them.

Lost lockboxes - Again different tiers , have gold in, treasure maps , lockpics, higher chance of getting rare motif's?

Gold tier fish - Every fishing spot has a chance to catch a gold tier fish which has 2 perfect roe in? Make it like a 1 in 300 chance or something to catch it.

Chance to pull up some alchemy mats such a nirnroot or water hyciath when you get a fish.

Just a few things.

Acrolas · January 2017

Jemcrystal wrote: »

What could be done to improve the popularity of fishing? Or more to the point, bait sales.

Applying your signature logic, the responsibility of your bait selling falls mostly on you. If it's not selling at the price you're asking, drop the price. Ignore the Master Merchant average and look at what most people are buying at per unit. Then price it to be competitive with that number. If everybody's selling at 100g per unit, you will sell more every time simply by pricing at somewhere between 78g and 88g.

If you're selling one rare item, undercutting will hurt you. But with renewable resources, discounts really are your best selling tool.

Mettaricana · January 2017

Simple its the single most boring fishing aspect I've ever seen in an mmorpg... now for instance a game I played ages ago mabinogi had an entire fishing skill line and a fish journal with pictures weight and lengths of the fish and over 100+ fish to catch. as well as fish pulled from the water had a full living model not the same generic reused icon in bag and when filleting they aren't all salmon. Made the excitement of seeing a huge fish worth it like look "omg guys caught a 7 foot tuna holy crap ! And all can see it"!as well as it had peices of gear and even an entire armor set crafted from shellfish carapaces making it cool to fish. the minigame was also good and it had an auto fish mode where the character would 50/50 chance auto catch or miss the catch making afk fishing a little profitable vs Chinese gold farm easy. Next we had to reel in the fish the larger and rarer the fish the harder it was to do as well as we had multiple kinds of rods for different fish and different baits.

Now eso I cringe at how long they wait between fish bites and bored to death its bland and a waste of time even a 20k roe doesn't justofy the boredom

geonsocal · January 2017

hmmmm, I got one - maybe every few fish we catch suddenly transforms in to a dragon (read: not stupid, ugly daedric titans), and then we get to fight the dragon/fish...

yeah, that'll work...

RAGUNAnoOne · January 2017

It is so boring and the rewards are not equal to the time invested you get what: fish and the chance for roe which is next to useless if you are maxed out perhaps some rubbish and trophies with no use at all. If it provided like a unique and decent set piece or can lead to unique fights (think MH3 all versions besides PSP) then perhaps fishing would be more popular.

VDoom1 · January 2017

I've done some fishing as a quest objective for the New Life Festival. But before that nope, haven't even fished once. To be honest I find it dull. Why save a town or the leader of a faction, or craft a legendary sword when you can go...fishing. No thank you. And as far as I know it's not very rewarding, more of a thing to do if you're bored.

akl77 · January 2017

If fishing in ESO is like Stardew Valley then yes I'll be fishing it all day.
ESO fishing requires no skills, suck rewards, just plain boring and no incentives to do it.

WhiteCoatSyndrome · January 2017

To make fishing more interesting, they could...

--Add some way to craft fishing lures to target a specific rare fish (So take, say, 1 Salmon Roe + 1 Worms + 1 Jute to craft a 'tadpole' lure which would increase the odds you'd catch a Muskie in Auridon, while 1 Chub + 1 Insect Parts + 1 Jute would make a 'flying fish' lure that increases the odds of catching a Bristlemouth. Lures for blue fish take slightly more mats).
--Add a Motif as a random drop, because hey, we have to grind for them with every OTHER activity in the game. I'm going to say Dreughshell, since they're aquatic and it was in Morrowind so why not?
--Have some way to speed up casting. Tap left-left-up to make Ocean fish bite faster, to mimic real fishing where you'll reel in the bait in different ways to make your lure look 'alive'
--Also give us something to do with the raw fish fillets besides cooking. Let up trade them in for the aforementioned Dreughshell Motif stones maybe.
--Have some quests unlock after you've caught, say, 100 fish.

You could probably add a teeny, tiny chance to reel up some vMA-rivaling superweapon, but that's just cruel. :P

nordsavage · January 2017

Because if people did all the side stuff they wouldn't be able to complain that they had nothing to do.