PVP in Azuras feels pretty good now; take CP out of the game and PVP really can seem a lot more balanced. Would recommend.
RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »Pvp is in the worst shape its ever been ,between pop imbalances, a dead map where there is only one fight, and mass pvdoor what a waste
I'm glad I get the new Skyrim special edition for free next week...it will be a few months before Cyrodiil recovers if it does at all
The PVE portion of the game is great, in fact it has never been better, but the pvp portion has suffered in reverse and is at the worst it ever has been...
Where do you go to claim your free Skyrim this week?
If you own all the Skyrim DLC on PC or previously purchased the Legenday Edition through Steam it will automatically be added to your Steam library on Oct 28th or 29th this Friday I do believe at no charge to you. It's a free upgrade for PC owners
WillhelmBlack wrote: »Even impenetrable traits won't save you. Reroll stamina get a 2h and S&B viper weapons and jewellery, tremorscale and a set of black rose. You will at least have a chance then.
Rant/essay:
For the past couple of years I've enjoyed PvP more than any other content - the need for you to compete using your own skill had made it the real 'end game' for me. Sure, I ran dungeons and farmed what needed farming in PvE, but it was all focused on improving PvP play.
Over the past month - and even more so over the last week - I've become incredibly disaffected with PvP. There has always been a 'meta', but you've also always been able to combat it in some way. You could always get through it and have some success with enjoyable, skill-based builds. Even when your class/build was in a bad place, if you knew it well then you could make it work - and make it work well. When Malubeth was broken, you could stack debuffs and time your burst cleverly. When shuffle/major mending stamDKs/Templars were an issue, you could avoid their LoS traps and exploit their mis-timed heals. When (and still..) Templars stack jesus beams on you, you can interrupt their channel and watch as they struggle to remember what their other buttons do. Now? Now you're fighting against players with incredible defence from HA, incredible sustain from HA, and frankly obscene burst from proc sets. What is the counter to that? Don't hit them so their Wrath/Constitution passives don't activate? Don't get hit so that their procs don't work?
After 1T dropped on PS4, I hopped on my trusty PvP mDK. Sure, open world he can falter a bit, but he takes pride in 1v1 combat - he uses HA (not BR) but loses out on damage and (some) sustain from doing so. I hopped into a few duels - killed a few sorcs, had a few long - but successful - fights against tankier builds. Then in comes a CP ~300 stamina NB. Black rose, Viper, Velidreth. By no means a 'unique' build. As a HA mDK, my burst is somewhat lackluster - this is my problem - had it been a bit higher I could've gotten through his heals. But every 4-9 seconds, without fail, in comes the viper + veli proc. Being tanky and with good dueling heals from Embers, I could make it through - and I did so for the first 10-15 combos - I just couldn't punch through his damned resistances. Eventually he gets a lucky proc and I drop after about 20 minutes. Feeling a bit disheartened I took a break for the night.
Next evening- someone has obviously stalked Fengrush/Sypher's channel and farmed throughout the night. Sword & Board stamDK. I've seen those videos too, so I had no doubts what I was going up against. Sure enough, procing all over the place - eventual death recap - Tremorscale, Viper, Dawnbreaker (with a little reverb bash thrown in). As there was no Widowmaker, I can only assume that Black Rose was thrown in there. I'm not sure which is better.
So to answer your question, OP - after a few more nights and many more similar duels, plus a fair amount of time in Cyrodiil, I respecced my mDK for PvE. This meta is horrible and those who don't conform to it - excluding those very skilled players - are absolutely gimping themselves beyond measure. Pretty soon I expect that those who refuse to use these builds will vacate Cyrodiil, and everyone else will switch to them. To those people, I say enjoy the proc race - I truly hope that you manage to get your procs off slightly before the other guy does.
You can still run w/e you want as long as you have a pocket Templar.When one tamriel came out, I told myself that it would be a good time to quit because I hate this meta. Altho I ike to have fun with friends or kill time sometimes, therefore Talos may forgive me I went proctard on my nightblade. Unfortunately unless you run those you will be destroyed by them. Either viper, or tremorscale, or velidreth, or widowmaker.
Wrobel what the F have you done to this game man? It is almost not fun anymore....
Still having a blast. Gotta play the meta to beat the meta. I overcome and adapt and don't cry on the forums. That's so seducer warlock vr 12 (blue).
Esgameplaya1 wrote: »Still having a blast. Gotta play the meta to beat the meta. I overcome and adapt and don't cry on the forums. That's so seducer warlock vr 12 (blue).
Props for this guy!! Makes me wonder if he has been playing since release. I can barely get myself to log in, but sometimes want to cause boredem!! And with stupid procs in pvp NO way!! Same old bologna different day! Gotta play meta to beat meta true, but so cheesy/boring!!
ChildOfLight wrote: »Playing Eso for 1 year, usually watching top Pvpers'streaming, but never approched PvP myself.
I was thinking something like: "I want to get a good build in order to compete on equal term with those bad bruhs" . Well, this can be questionable, to be honest, but the fact is that I played pve for about all the time since the beginning and I enjoyed that.
Yesterday I decided to give a try to it with my full build Magika Sorc (5 julianos gold, 2 Nerien, 3 willpower) and I found it NOT FUNNY.
Yes I may be not good at the game and this would end up in bad results in pvp, but I would like to underline some points that are not l2p issue related, in my opinion.
How can I play on the same terms against stamina characters if they can dodge roll 16 times, CC break 12 times and still spam Vigor 5 times while animation cancelling at me Swallow sould, Terror, dawnbreaker and executioner. Approximating for excess I can dodge roll and cc break 1 time.
After some of this kind of experiences, I decided I was doing something wrong. Maybe I should get the distance and throw my rotation from far away, maybe from behind some ally guys.
The exact same guy of the previous example, switching bar, started spamming Snipe from a distance none of my skills cant compare.
So, my question is: what's the point of playing a magika sorc if stamina based characters prevale in every aspect?
More damage, better resource managing, same or better skills from the distance . In which aspect a magicka sorc really shines over stam characters?
Of course, these are only impressions from my point of view. What frustrates me is that after enjoying so much the storyline and the pve in general, I cant do the same with PvP cause of its (apparently) unbalance. And all the time spent in the PvE suddendly appears senseless.
I would appreciate your points of view, over, eventually, some build suggestions.
If you are new to PVP...
start like an ordinary Joe
Don't look too much to Hollywood stars on stream
Don't try to kill that one person that is better
Just start learning
going through all different kind of situations that you see other people doing around you
and watch around you to your fellow Aliance players
And if you die to often/fast... slot some more defensive stuf
And Nerienth will do you no good in PVP
Some of these procmonkies completely bail if they don't kill you in an opening. They just run away and hope their procs trigger next time. What the heck is the point of pvping like that.
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