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RIP light armor :( ( PvP )

Ihatenightblades
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I feel like even if i wear all impen or all reinforced theres no way to sustain without shields.

Is shields the onlyyy viable option for light armor?

  • Rex-Umbra
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    Light armour requires shields.
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  • NoRagret
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    lol really? about a year and a half ago light armors got a buff increasing its defense by 120%ish. back then people didnt QQ that much and even with uber low phys resistance people would L2P
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  • thankyourat
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    If you run light armor why would you not run annulment it's actually kind of op
  • BRogueNZ
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    be nice if a passive buffed our proactive buffs in LA, we can shield/ward up but its almost an exercise in spam keeping it all up
    "Having lost so much for the country alliance I love, I'll be damned if I'll ever love any other" possibly misquoted civil war dude
  • DHale
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    No shield.... Back to the transitus for you ap for me.
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  • BigBragg
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    I would say that the most glaring disparity of light armor, when compared to medium and heavy, is that it has no passives that double dips benefits for only one skill points being pumped in.
    Cadwell, I seem to have run out of forks to give.
  • Ihatenightblades
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    If you run light armor why would you not run annulment it's actually kind of op

    I do i run dampen magic and ward ally but i was asking is there anothr option

    Something like sword n shield or something lol. Just tired of having to break free soon as i get CC'd and apply shields

  • SlayerTheDragon
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    Light armor... I laughed.
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  • Ihatenightblades
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    Light armor... I laughed.

    Magicka sorcs are doing great in light armor
  • itscompton
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    Light armor... I laughed.

    Magicka sorcs are doing great in light armor

    Depends on your definition. I play with a friend who can beat other top players that crush me 1v1 but when we're together and get into fights with 2 or more people and we lose he goes down way before I do on my heavy armor Mag Temp.

  • Volrion
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    I hate you to @Ihatenightblades :*

    I only hate them because i mainly 1v1 with guilds and to heres ALWAYSS a nightblade who ganks me and everybody else lol

    That incapacitated strike combo is just too deadly :/

    Haha it's so funny when it happens though.

    *** chaos.
  • Ihatenightblades
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    itscompton wrote: »
    Light armor... I laughed.

    Magicka sorcs are doing great in light armor

    Depends on your definition. I play with a friend who can beat other top players that crush me 1v1 but when we're together and get into fights with 2 or more people and we lose he goes down way before I do on my heavy armor Mag Temp.

    Light armor sorcs got that infinite sustain lol plus infinite shields .

    I realized only way to take them out is drain ther stam,CC, then finish em off .
  • NinjaMyk
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    old_mufasa wrote: »
    The another issue with the data mine is from reading it... is that it didn't show how much of that was 5 set or 7 set or mixed.. as most wear 5+1+1 meaning most wear a mix of all armor types... especially with heavy armor vs other armor types such as 7 light/7 med to max stam or magic builds. I don't know anyone who wears 7 heavy.. they all wear 5 heavy with 1 med, 1 light.

    That's not always the case a lot of players actually run the 7 heavy especially if your using black rose at it improves the constitution buff even further the more heavy you wear.
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  • the_man_of_steal
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    NoRagret wrote: »
    lol really? about a year and a half ago light armors got a buff increasing its defense by 120%ish. back then people didnt QQ that much and even with uber low phys resistance people would L2P

    Give them the full story my man... a year and a half ago when that change was made, there was no buff to poison damage because elemental damage was in the CP node with melee damage and Poison damage was in the same CP node as magicka... SO the 120% buff was great before they buffed stamina.

    FYI: I have 4 stam toons and 1 Mag toon.
  • Alucardo
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    Light armor should have to rely on shields.. it's LIGHT. What magicka does need is better sustain to help keep those shields up seems they can't dodge roll and keep shuffle on to evade everything like stamina can.
    Wish there was more options for melee magicka builds too. I don't like being pigeon holed into using a piece of wood. I prefer close combat.
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  • Xvorg
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    If you run light armor why would you not run annulment it's actually kind of op

    Not in a million years is OP. OP is dodgeroll and avoid every single attack for a couple of secs. The bubble forces you to play defensively, watching your bar and counting to 6. Samina dodge rolls and for a couple of secs FORGETS defensive tactics even if there are 5 or 6 guys around. You can't do that with a bubble.

    I play both, stam and magicka and the differece between both is huge.
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  • CapuchinSeven
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    Xvorg wrote: »
    If you run light armor why would you not run annulment it's actually kind of op

    Not in a million years is OP. OP is dodgeroll and avoid every single attack for a couple of secs. The bubble forces you to play defensively, watching your bar and counting to 6. Samina dodge rolls and for a couple of secs FORGETS defensive tactics even if there are 5 or 6 guys around. You can't do that with a bubble.

    I play both, stam and magicka and the differece between both is huge.

    I agree, I take a big hit to my damage if I slot it because it takes up a slot that I really need for other things. It's NICE when I have it but you have to spam it when you're focused and totally go defensive.

    Dodge roll is a huge amount better by a long way.
  • Minalan
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    The problem is: more people are using light armor still than heavy.

    The devs think, therefore it's balanced.

    But what they didn't ask, is how many light armor builds are magicka Templars...
  • MLCBS
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    Light armor should have to rely on shields.. it's LIGHT. What magicka does need is better sustain to help keep those shields up seems they can't dodge roll and keep shuffle on to evade everything like stamina can.
    Wish there was more options for melee magicka builds too. I don't like being pigeon holed into using a piece of wood. I prefer close combat.

    Cool insight .
  • geonsocal
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    ugh, I'm one of those poor fools who runs 7 light (on 2 characters :'( )...

    it doesn't really seem to bother my mDK...but, my magsorc has to stay on the move constantly...

    just wondering, do boundless storm and empowered ward stack?
    Edited by geonsocal on September 23, 2016 7:10PM
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  • Minno
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    Xvorg wrote: »
    If you run light armor why would you not run annulment it's actually kind of op

    Not in a million years is OP. OP is dodgeroll and avoid every single attack for a couple of secs. The bubble forces you to play defensively, watching your bar and counting to 6. Samina dodge rolls and for a couple of secs FORGETS defensive tactics even if there are 5 or 6 guys around. You can't do that with a bubble.

    I play both, stam and magicka and the differece between both is huge.

    I agree, I take a big hit to my damage if I slot it because it takes up a slot that I really need for other things. It's NICE when I have it but you have to spam it when you're focused and totally go defensive.

    Dodge roll is a huge amount better by a long way.

    Dodge is the best mitigation only because it's the only mitigation that can negate the entire dmg of a spell. Everything else has to run through the gauntlet of the "armor mitigation" equation, whereas dodge chance is literally "can you dodge? If yes, don't take any dmg, if no, take dmg."
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  • FriedEggSandwich
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    geonsocal wrote: »
    ugh, I'm one of those poor fools who runs 7 light (on 2 characters :'( )...

    it doesn't really seem to bother my mDK...but, my magsorc has to stay on the move constantly...

    just wondering, do boundless storm and empowered ward stack?

    Yeah they stack because they offer different buffs. Boundless storm gives around 5k resistances (like wearing 2 pieces of heavy without the passives), and the ward is a straight damage absorb. In pvp I wear 2 large pieces of heavy and keep boundless storm up constantly. Combine that with a defending resto staff on back bar, some impen and the vampire undeath passive and suddenly you actually have time to cast your ward.
    Edited by FriedEggSandwich on September 23, 2016 7:50PM
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  • geonsocal
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    thanks @FriedEggSandwich (hmmmm, is it time for lunch yet)...magsorc play has me just as perplexed now as NB did earlier this year...I've begun to incorporate mixed armor builds in my newer characters- but, I'm a little too stubborn to change up some of my older builds...I'll just keep working towards better solutions...
    Edited by geonsocal on September 23, 2016 8:10PM
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