TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »That Echatere looks like a giant Rabbit, BTW the only reason I say the Dro-mathra Senche is Unlorefriendly is because of this and that is because it is an evil khajiit spirit, and no evil spirit would let you ride them and order them around.
dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »If we really don't want to break lore, then only khajiits would be allowed to ride the senches. The only race a senche-tiger allows on its back is the proud feline Khajiit.
I believe Ysmir rode a senche when he assaulted Ash mountain, or was that Jurgen Windcaller. I forget. It doesn't matter there is -some- precedent however small that more than khajiit have ridden senche.
Abeille wrote:Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »cyclonus11 wrote: »The game creates the lore, not the other way around.
I completely agree with @cyclonus11 here... As long as ZOS actually BOTHERS to create the lore. The Dro-M'Athra mount has lore! We know what it is, we know why it is... even though there's a very minor inconsistency with it's existence, it's still lore
This is very unlike the other mystical mounts we have. Lore behind the ice horse? Is there any?
You mean like the lore behind the nightmare courser and the ice mount? Because if you call that one sentence description lore. I might have to question if youre being serious or not.
I'm saying there is no lore behind the ice horse. I don't count item descriptions as lore @Korah_Eaglecry
The Dro-M'Artha exist in the game... they are sort of being added as "living lore" and there are other things that have discussed the Dro-M'Artha, even prior to ESO.
Where is a race of ice horses in the lore?
All we have regarding the origins of the Frost mare is this description, saying that "Its exact origin is unknown, but the Mages Guild believes it may originally have come from Takubar, the plane of origin of Cold Flame Atronachs".
I do consider official explanations to be lore, which is why I don't have any problems with it, but I would much prefer an in-game lore book that at least mentions it.
I don't consider descriptions lore @Abeille ... and as an explanation it's VERY weak. We have hundreds of players running around on these things and NO ONE knows where they came from? Why don't you just ask one of the people running around on it? Oh... that's right. The only reason they have that ZOS has provided us is "Because I bought it from the Crown Store".
How hard would it have been for ZOS to write and throw a book into the game? Or put a small grazing herd of them somewhere in the game? Or have a few in a couple of the NPC stables around Tamriel.
I just want them in game in ANY other way besides "It was bought in the Crown Store". Even the description isn't in game... it's a Crown Store description.
This is why I am totally fine with the Dro-M'Artha, because they exist in game in a way other than Crown Store fodder.
nimander99 wrote: »[...]
Edit: As usual @Gidorick posts some fantastic ideas! Question though, isn't it called a Silt Strider? Not Silt Runner... I might be wrong but for some reason I remember them being called Silt Striders.
Looks fast, put some spikes on the front of it and I'll go back into Cyrodiil again. Ram me some tomatos.ContraTempo wrote: »NateAssassin wrote: »How does a dwarven motorcycle sound, or a dwarven Chevrolet Corvette?
Seems ligit.
LadyDestiny wrote: »TheWhiteDarkness wrote: »I want an Echatere mount! Already in-game so not hard to make as mounts!
Ha ha 20,000 crowns because of the size and extra baggage....;)
It's ESO, NOT Monkey.BAS :Pgorilla with banana cannons,STAT!!
Ghost-Shot wrote: »I WANT A DRAGON MOUNT

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »It's ESO, NOT Monkey.BAS :Pgorilla with banana cannons,STAT!!Ghost-Shot wrote: »I WANT A DRAGON MOUNT
Would this one do?
A Cerberus: I saw a beast like this in ESO, so do not say: NOT LORE.
Since the mount people are going to take a look at this thread and I've never got any such feedback for my racial mount thread... quote from: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/153031/mount-specific-racial-riding-bonuses-concept/p1There has been a few discussions about race specific mounts in ESO. With the new direction of ESO, having race specific mounts wouldn’t make a lot of sense. However, for RP and immersion purposes, having race specific mounts is quite the boon. There is, however, a middle ground.
Mount Specific Racial Riding Bonuses
Core Concept
ZOS should consider giving bonuses to players who ride their Race Specific Mount. These bonuses should be placed on top of whatever their current skills are.These bonuses do not mean that other races shouldn’t be able to ride these mounts, they just won’t receive the racial riding bonus. This system will allow all players to ride all mounts but will give players incentives to not only create alternate characters but to use their Race Specific Mount.
- 10% Speed Bonus
- 20% Stamina Bonus
Now let's have some fun!
Below are some suggestions for what NEW mount could be added for each race. Each Mount could be purchased in the Crown Store in various styles, just as the horses and Senche cats will soon be.
Thoughts?
I seriously don't understand how they haven't decided to look into your thread! Good you linked it yourself, or I would've
Note: For all the people questioning the wolf mount, notice how it according to lore is a Bosmer mount.


TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »That Echatere looks like a giant Rabbit, BTW the only reason I say the Dro-mathra Senche is Unlorefriendly is because of this and that is because it is an evil khajiit spirit, and no evil spirit would let you ride them and order them around.
nimander99 wrote: »Edit: As usual @Gidorick posts some fantastic ideas! Question though, isn't it called a Silt Strider? Not Silt Runner... I might be wrong but for some reason I remember them being called Silt Striders.
VerboseQuips wrote: »Abeille wrote:Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »cyclonus11 wrote: »The game creates the lore, not the other way around.
I completely agree with @cyclonus11 here... As long as ZOS actually BOTHERS to create the lore. The Dro-M'Athra mount has lore! We know what it is, we know why it is... even though there's a very minor inconsistency with it's existence, it's still lore
This is very unlike the other mystical mounts we have. Lore behind the ice horse? Is there any?
You mean like the lore behind the nightmare courser and the ice mount? Because if you call that one sentence description lore. I might have to question if youre being serious or not.
I'm saying there is no lore behind the ice horse. I don't count item descriptions as lore @Korah_Eaglecry
The Dro-M'Artha exist in the game... they are sort of being added as "living lore" and there are other things that have discussed the Dro-M'Artha, even prior to ESO.
Where is a race of ice horses in the lore?
All we have regarding the origins of the Frost mare is this description, saying that "Its exact origin is unknown, but the Mages Guild believes it may originally have come from Takubar, the plane of origin of Cold Flame Atronachs".
I do consider official explanations to be lore, which is why I don't have any problems with it, but I would much prefer an in-game lore book that at least mentions it.
I don't consider descriptions lore @Abeille (oops... wrong tag.. sorry @VerboseQuips !!!)... and as an explanation it's VERY weak. We have hundreds of players running around on these things and NO ONE knows where they came from? Why don't you just ask one of the people running around on it? Oh... that's right. The only reason they have that ZOS has provided us is "Because I bought it from the Crown Store".
How hard would it have been for ZOS to write and throw a book into the game? Or put a small grazing herd of them somewhere in the game? Or have a few in a couple of the NPC stables around Tamriel.
I just want them in game in ANY other way besides "It was bought in the Crown Store". Even the description isn't in game... it's a Crown Store description.
This is why I am totally fine with the Dro-M'Artha, because they exist in game in a way other than Crown Store fodder.
I am actually roleplaying a mage, riding on a frost mare, and I actually never forget it comes from Takubar. In fact, I actually prefer the frost mare because of its Daedric origin : when it appears out of nowhere, solidified out of thin air, it is because I actually just summoned it. Which would make no sense and be less immersive in case it would have been a denizen of Nirn - (or else I would have to pretend my character learnt Spriggannish animal-summonning).
Also, I see those new creatures as an expansion of the previously existing lore, and one that will encourage Bethesda to put more diversity in its mounts for the next single-player TES games.
Also, since Takubar is supposed to mirror Infernace, I think we should also have ember mares coming from the latter.
That said, I agree with you that it would be better to see them somewhere in-game. Frost mare-riding Xivkyns in Coldharbour would be something great to see. By the way, when do they add mounted fighting, so we can compete in jousts and hastiludes, and fight mounted enemies in the wild?nimander99 wrote: »[...]
Edit: As usual @Gidorick posts some fantastic ideas! Question though, isn't it called a Silt Strider? Not Silt Runner... I might be wrong but for some reason I remember them being called Silt Striders.
I agree, this is awesome. If I want to nitpick, I'd say I am not so comfortable with the elk-riding Altmer. I would rather see them riding eerie, bug-like or Sunhallowed creatures.
About the Strider/Runner stuff, maybe it is because Striders are too oversized to be actually used in-game?

VerboseQuips wrote: »Abeille wrote:Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »cyclonus11 wrote: »The game creates the lore, not the other way around.
I completely agree with @cyclonus11 here... As long as ZOS actually BOTHERS to create the lore. The Dro-M'Athra mount has lore! We know what it is, we know why it is... even though there's a very minor inconsistency with it's existence, it's still lore
This is very unlike the other mystical mounts we have. Lore behind the ice horse? Is there any?
You mean like the lore behind the nightmare courser and the ice mount? Because if you call that one sentence description lore. I might have to question if youre being serious or not.
I'm saying there is no lore behind the ice horse. I don't count item descriptions as lore @Korah_Eaglecry
The Dro-M'Artha exist in the game... they are sort of being added as "living lore" and there are other things that have discussed the Dro-M'Artha, even prior to ESO.
Where is a race of ice horses in the lore?
All we have regarding the origins of the Frost mare is this description, saying that "Its exact origin is unknown, but the Mages Guild believes it may originally have come from Takubar, the plane of origin of Cold Flame Atronachs".
I do consider official explanations to be lore, which is why I don't have any problems with it, but I would much prefer an in-game lore book that at least mentions it.
I don't consider descriptions lore @Abeille ... and as an explanation it's VERY weak. We have hundreds of players running around on these things and NO ONE knows where they came from? Why don't you just ask one of the people running around on it? Oh... that's right. The only reason they have that ZOS has provided us is "Because I bought it from the Crown Store".
How hard would it have been for ZOS to write and throw a book into the game? Or put a small grazing herd of them somewhere in the game? Or have a few in a couple of the NPC stables around Tamriel.
I just want them in game in ANY other way besides "It was bought in the Crown Store". Even the description isn't in game... it's a Crown Store description.
This is why I am totally fine with the Dro-M'Artha, because they exist in game in a way other than Crown Store fodder.
I am actually roleplaying a mage, riding on a frost mare, and I actually never forget it comes from Takubar. In fact, I actually prefer the frost mare because of its Daedric origin : when it appears out of nowhere, solidified out of thin air, it is because I actually just summoned it. Which would make no sense and be less immersive in case it would have been a denizen of Nirn - (or else I would have to pretend my character learnt Spriggannish animal-summonning).
Also, I see those new creatures as an expansion of the previously existing lore, and one that will encourage Bethesda to put more diversity in its mounts for the next single-player TES games.
Also, since Takubar is supposed to mirror Infernace, I think we should also have ember mares coming from the latter.
That said, I agree with you that it would be better to see them somewhere in-game. Frost mare-riding Xivkyns in Coldharbour would be something great to see. By the way, when do they add mounted fighting, so we can compete in jousts and hastiludes, and fight mounted enemies in the wild?nimander99 wrote: »[...]
Edit: As usual @Gidorick posts some fantastic ideas! Question though, isn't it called a Silt Strider? Not Silt Runner... I might be wrong but for some reason I remember them being called Silt Striders.
I agree, this is awesome. If I want to nitpick, I'd say I am not so comfortable with the elk-riding Altmer. I would rather see them riding eerie, bug-like or Sunhallowed creatures.
About the Strider/Runner stuff, maybe it is because Striders are too oversized to be actually used in-game?
I like the way you think @Abeille , I will admit that much of my desire to have them represented in game is based on a "line in the sand" kind of mentality. When ESO came out and people started to talk about lore appropriateness I thought to myself "As long as they justify what they add..."
My own personal lore behind the Ice Horse is: A Frost Mare horses come from an aspect of the Etherial horse Frostmare. It's not THE Frostmare we're all riding but a portion of Frostmare. By the end of the second era, this splintering of Frostmare was so severe that by the time all the players of ESO got done with Frostmare Crypt, no aspect of the spectral equine remained. After that, the Frost Mare crypt was mistakenly referred to as Frostmere... a Crypt in Skyrim.
The idea was inspired by a conversation with @Nifty2g & @UrQuan
As for the Altmer... I did consider a Griffin but there has never been any mention of actual griffins in lore, I don't think.
I think Griffins are mythical creatures in Tamriel. Crazy huh?
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WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »
I HAD NO IDEA! @WhiteCoatSyndrome !!! Is it just the feather we have as proof that they exist? I don't care if it is! GRIFFONS!!! er... I'm spelling it wrong too. GRYPHONS!!!!! EEEKKK!!!!
Ok... I'm changing my request. Gryphon mount! I want a Gryphon mount. It doesn't need wings or maybe only one gender has wings like some insects.... I don't care. I just want a bird cat on which to ride! I'll name it Trico!
WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »
I HAD NO IDEA! @WhiteCoatSyndrome !!! Is it just the feather we have as proof that they exist? I don't care if it is! GRIFFONS!!! er... I'm spelling it wrong too. GRYPHONS!!!!! EEEKKK!!!!
Ok... I'm changing my request. Gryphon mount! I want a Gryphon mount. It doesn't need wings or maybe only one gender has wings like some insects.... I don't care. I just want a bird cat on which to ride! I'll name it Trico!
WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »
I HAD NO IDEA! @WhiteCoatSyndrome !!! Is it just the feather we have as proof that they exist? I don't care if it is! GRIFFONS!!! er... I'm spelling it wrong too. GRYPHONS!!!!! EEEKKK!!!!
Ok... I'm changing my request. Gryphon mount! I want a Gryphon mount. It doesn't need wings or maybe only one gender has wings like some insects.... I don't care. I just want a bird cat on which to ride! I'll name it Trico!
If they add Gryphons, I wish they would give them an Elder Scrolls twist ... you know, like Trolls having 3 eyes, or Mammoths having 4 tusks. I'm all for new additions to the Elder Scrolls bestiary, especially in previously unexplored regions.
As long as they are flightless, of course. Is there such a thing as a Penguin Gryphon?
WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »
I HAD NO IDEA! @WhiteCoatSyndrome !!! Is it just the feather we have as proof that they exist? I don't care if it is! GRIFFONS!!! er... I'm spelling it wrong too. GRYPHONS!!!!! EEEKKK!!!!
Ok... I'm changing my request. Gryphon mount! I want a Gryphon mount. It doesn't need wings or maybe only one gender has wings like some insects.... I don't care. I just want a bird cat on which to ride! I'll name it Trico!
If they add Gryphons, I wish they would give them an Elder Scrolls twist ... you know, like Trolls having 3 eyes, or Mammoths having 4 tusks. I'm all for new additions to the Elder Scrolls bestiary, especially in previously unexplored regions.
As long as they are flightless, of course. Is there such a thing as a Penguin Gryphon?