Nirnrotten wrote: »With all the hype and hate focused on "lorebreaking" mounts and their exuberant prices what sort of lore friendly mounts would you like to see in the future?
I vote for the Unicorn found in Oblivion. That mount killed many a monster for me. It's too bad it could never be stabled.I went to such great lengths to keep em...
The new mount is in lore because it is part of the Maw trial storyline -- a Khajiit and the 3rd Black moon curse.
Explain yourself. Why are they lorebreaking?
cyclonus11 wrote: »The game creates the lore, not the other way around.
Any time I see this thing I wonder if it's still an ESO game. Making mount from thunderbugs is more lore friendly than this.TheWhiteDarkness wrote: »I want an Echatere mount! Already in-game so not hard to make as mounts!
If we really don't want to break lore, then only khajiits would be allowed to ride the senches. The only race a senche-tiger allows on its back is the proud feline Khajiit.
I asked them and now I will ask you. How are they lore breaking? Have you actually read a TES book? Or are you just a google simpleton?
Do you really expect people on the ESO forum to be as ignorant to the lore as you are being?
Btw no need to respond I already know the answers I just like responding to dumb posts : )
Nirnrotten wrote: »I asked them and now I will ask you. How are they lore breaking? Have you actually read a TES book? Or are you just a google simpleton?
Do you really expect people on the ESO forum to be as ignorant to the lore as you are being?
Btw no need to respond I already know the answers I just like responding to dumb posts : )
Don't even get me started on the Infernal City. I bought it, and it was a painful read. Every single character, regardless of race spoke in the same tone with perfect grammar. No accents or anything. Only TES novel I've read. There isn't many.
In regards to your question, I personally do not believe the current mounts are lorebreaking but makes for good clickbait. Got you to comment didn't it? I mostly wanted to read about the different mounts people would want to see in game but knew not to expect that. Mostly I expected comments calling people ignorant and dumb, because somehow those comments seem to thrive all over the internet.
dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »Wamasu!

I can so see my lizard riding his lizard :Pdimensional wrote: »A Wamasu mount would absolutely make my day.
IrishGirlGamer wrote: »I would like to be able to buy more real horses. They don't necessarily need to be added to Crown store, just increase the color and variety of horses available.
But if the crown store is the only way to get them, I'm okay with that. I'd really like something like this:

Ghost-Shot wrote: »I genuinely fail to see how the new tiger is lore breaking, we literally just got an entire raid about its lore. And seriously what's the big deal with lore? I get that its important to the game and what not but why should all this nonsense about lore get in the way of having fun with the game and getting cool mounts. @ZOS_RichLambert more of this please, but the price on this one is a bit crazy.
Ghost-Shot wrote: »I genuinely fail to see how the new tiger is lore breaking, we literally just got an entire raid about its lore. And seriously what's the big deal with lore? I get that its important to the game and what not but why should all this nonsense about lore get in the way of having fun with the game and getting cool mounts. @ZOS_RichLambert more of this please, but the price on this one is a bit crazy.
For any story to make sense it must follow rules about logic, what can and can not be part of the story. Also, to make sense it must follow the history of the world it is set in.
That what lore does and why it is the important -- it tells the history and states the logic behind the story. Otherwise, the story without lore will be a mess of miss match of ideas like a book with random letters (JJjljllaaljl). Does "klafdjfajIUJJKLJjkaj" make a good story?
Ghost-Shot wrote: »Ghost-Shot wrote: »I genuinely fail to see how the new tiger is lore breaking, we literally just got an entire raid about its lore. And seriously what's the big deal with lore? I get that its important to the game and what not but why should all this nonsense about lore get in the way of having fun with the game and getting cool mounts. @ZOS_RichLambert more of this please, but the price on this one is a bit crazy.
For any story to make sense it must follow rules about logic, what can and can not be part of the story. Also, to make sense it must follow the history of the world it is set in.
That what lore does and why it is the important -- it tells the history and states the logic behind the story. Otherwise, the story without lore will be a mess of miss match of ideas like a book with random letters (JJjljllaaljl). Does "klafdjfajIUJJKLJjkaj" make a good story?
I get that, but most of the time it gets brought up its like people want to remove anything interesting from the game because of that one line in some book I read in game 15 years ago. At some point you've got to give it a rest, its not like adding a cool mount changes the entire history of the games or anything.
Abeille wrote:Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »cyclonus11 wrote: »The game creates the lore, not the other way around.
I completely agree with @cyclonus11 here... As long as ZOS actually BOTHERS to create the lore. The Dro-M'Athra mount has lore! We know what it is, we know why it is... even though there's a very minor inconsistency with it's existence, it's still lore
This is very unlike the other mystical mounts we have. Lore behind the ice horse? Is there any?
You mean like the lore behind the nightmare courser and the ice mount? Because if you call that one sentence description lore. I might have to question if youre being serious or not.
I'm saying there is no lore behind the ice horse. I don't count item descriptions as lore @Korah_Eaglecry
The Dro-M'Artha exist in the game... they are sort of being added as "living lore" and there are other things that have discussed the Dro-M'Artha, even prior to ESO.
Where is a race of ice horses in the lore?
All we have regarding the origins of the Frost mare is this description, saying that "Its exact origin is unknown, but the Mages Guild believes it may originally have come from Takubar, the plane of origin of Cold Flame Atronachs".
I do consider official explanations to be lore, which is why I don't have any problems with it, but I would much prefer an in-game lore book that at least mentions it.
Ghost-Shot wrote: »Ghost-Shot wrote: »I genuinely fail to see how the new tiger is lore breaking, we literally just got an entire raid about its lore. And seriously what's the big deal with lore? I get that its important to the game and what not but why should all this nonsense about lore get in the way of having fun with the game and getting cool mounts. @ZOS_RichLambert more of this please, but the price on this one is a bit crazy.
For any story to make sense it must follow rules about logic, what can and can not be part of the story. Also, to make sense it must follow the history of the world it is set in.
That what lore does and why it is the important -- it tells the history and states the logic behind the story. Otherwise, the story without lore will be a mess of miss match of ideas like a book with random letters (JJjljllaaljl). Does "klafdjfajIUJJKLJjkaj" make a good story?
I get that, but most of the time it gets brought up its like people want to remove anything interesting from the game because of that one line in some book I read in game 15 years ago. At some point you've got to give it a rest, its not like adding a cool mount changes the entire history of the games or anything.
I drop playing RIFT because they throw lore out the window and I will do the same with ESO if ZOS does not follow lore of the TES games to a point. I am willing to let some aspects past just to make the playable. The main reason I got into TES games due to good storytelling and lore is a BIG part of that. There is a great many of us do not lose a great story due to some noob who something shiny that does not fit into the game. I do understand lore must change over time to support the game; however, lore is there for a reason and we show respect that reason.
Abeille wrote:Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »cyclonus11 wrote: »The game creates the lore, not the other way around.
I completely agree with @cyclonus11 here... As long as ZOS actually BOTHERS to create the lore. The Dro-M'Athra mount has lore! We know what it is, we know why it is... even though there's a very minor inconsistency with it's existence, it's still lore
This is very unlike the other mystical mounts we have. Lore behind the ice horse? Is there any?
You mean like the lore behind the nightmare courser and the ice mount? Because if you call that one sentence description lore. I might have to question if youre being serious or not.
I'm saying there is no lore behind the ice horse. I don't count item descriptions as lore @Korah_Eaglecry
The Dro-M'Artha exist in the game... they are sort of being added as "living lore" and there are other things that have discussed the Dro-M'Artha, even prior to ESO.
Where is a race of ice horses in the lore?
All we have regarding the origins of the Frost mare is this description, saying that "Its exact origin is unknown, but the Mages Guild believes it may originally have come from Takubar, the plane of origin of Cold Flame Atronachs".
I do consider official explanations to be lore, which is why I don't have any problems with it, but I would much prefer an in-game lore book that at least mentions it.
I don't consider descriptions lore... and as an explanation it's VERY weak. We have hundreds of players running around on these things and NO ONE knows where they came from? Why don't you just ask one of the people running around on it? Oh... that's right. The only reason they have that ZOS has provided us is "Because I bought it from the Crown Store".
How hard would it have been for ZOS to write and throw a book into the game? Or put a small grazing herd of them somewhere in the game? Or have a few in a couple of the NPC stables around Tamriel.
I just want them in game in ANY other way besides "It was bought in the Crown Store". Even the description isn't in game... it's a Crown Store description.
This is why I am totally fine with the Dro-M'Artha, because they exist in game in a way other than Crown Store fodder.
Abeille wrote:Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »cyclonus11 wrote: »The game creates the lore, not the other way around.
I completely agree with @cyclonus11 here... As long as ZOS actually BOTHERS to create the lore. The Dro-M'Athra mount has lore! We know what it is, we know why it is... even though there's a very minor inconsistency with it's existence, it's still lore
This is very unlike the other mystical mounts we have. Lore behind the ice horse? Is there any?
You mean like the lore behind the nightmare courser and the ice mount? Because if you call that one sentence description lore. I might have to question if youre being serious or not.
I'm saying there is no lore behind the ice horse. I don't count item descriptions as lore @Korah_Eaglecry
The Dro-M'Artha exist in the game... they are sort of being added as "living lore" and there are other things that have discussed the Dro-M'Artha, even prior to ESO.
Where is a race of ice horses in the lore?
All we have regarding the origins of the Frost mare is this description, saying that "Its exact origin is unknown, but the Mages Guild believes it may originally have come from Takubar, the plane of origin of Cold Flame Atronachs".
I do consider official explanations to be lore, which is why I don't have any problems with it, but I would much prefer an in-game lore book that at least mentions it.
I don't consider descriptions lore... and as an explanation it's VERY weak. We have hundreds of players running around on these things and NO ONE knows where they came from? Why don't you just ask one of the people running around on it? Oh... that's right. The only reason they have that ZOS has provided us is "Because I bought it from the Crown Store".
How hard would it have been for ZOS to write and throw a book into the game? Or put a small grazing herd of them somewhere in the game? Or have a few in a couple of the NPC stables around Tamriel.
I just want them in game in ANY other way besides "It was bought in the Crown Store". Even the description isn't in game... it's a Crown Store description.
This is why I am totally fine with the Dro-M'Artha, because they exist in game in a way other than Crown Store fodder.
Abeille wrote:Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »cyclonus11 wrote: »The game creates the lore, not the other way around.
I completely agree with @cyclonus11 here... As long as ZOS actually BOTHERS to create the lore. The Dro-M'Athra mount has lore! We know what it is, we know why it is... even though there's a very minor inconsistency with it's existence, it's still lore
This is very unlike the other mystical mounts we have. Lore behind the ice horse? Is there any?
You mean like the lore behind the nightmare courser and the ice mount? Because if you call that one sentence description lore. I might have to question if youre being serious or not.
I'm saying there is no lore behind the ice horse. I don't count item descriptions as lore @Korah_Eaglecry
The Dro-M'Artha exist in the game... they are sort of being added as "living lore" and there are other things that have discussed the Dro-M'Artha, even prior to ESO.
Where is a race of ice horses in the lore?
All we have regarding the origins of the Frost mare is this description, saying that "Its exact origin is unknown, but the Mages Guild believes it may originally have come from Takubar, the plane of origin of Cold Flame Atronachs".
I do consider official explanations to be lore, which is why I don't have any problems with it, but I would much prefer an in-game lore book that at least mentions it.
I don't consider descriptions lore... and as an explanation it's VERY weak. We have hundreds of players running around on these things and NO ONE knows where they came from? Why don't you just ask one of the people running around on it? Oh... that's right. The only reason they have that ZOS has provided us is "Because I bought it from the Crown Store".
How hard would it have been for ZOS to write and throw a book into the game? Or put a small grazing herd of them somewhere in the game? Or have a few in a couple of the NPC stables around Tamriel.
I just want them in game in ANY other way besides "It was bought in the Crown Store". Even the description isn't in game... it's a Crown Store description.
This is why I am totally fine with the Dro-M'Artha, because they exist in game in a way other than Crown Store fodder.
Yes, I agree. I would much rather have them in game before having them as mounts. It was one of the things I worried about when they announced Dire Wolf mounts, but then they went and put them as animals in the Gold Coast and also added a book on "taming" them to the game, so there's that.
I imagine both horses are summoned as daedric creatures from their respective oblivion planes... But then, the people summoning them should be able to tell which plane they came from. And we have Cold Flame Atronachs in Coldharbour, so why not have a few Frost Mares in there too?
And yes, at least a book about them would be great.
This game has a Loremaster that has literally got an elder scroll at his disposal @Lawrence_Schick is his name and he is epic, he is the Morgan Freeman of Bethesda & Zenimax ( epic voice ).
Also whatever this game adds becomes lore for future games.
-insert deal with it meme
(I for one salute the creativity instead of just sticking with already existing creatures they are adding so much to the game in terms of nelw animals and beasts)
Nirnrotten wrote: »This game has a Loremaster that has literally got an elder scroll at his disposal @Lawrence_Schick is his name and he is epic, he is the Morgan Freeman of Bethesda & Zenimax ( epic voice ).
Also whatever this game adds becomes lore for future games.
-insert deal with it meme
(I for one salute the creativity instead of just sticking with already existing creatures they are adding so much to the game in terms of nelw animals and beasts)
I agree @Lawrence_Schick is the bee's knees. He has done a wonderful job at guiding the creation of this wondrous world which has captivated my heart and imagination for a very long time. I look forward to the future of the past that is Tamriel Unlimited. I also still really want to ride on a unicorn again... You hear that Lawrence?! Rofl!
NateAssassin wrote: »How does a dwarven motorcycle sound, or a dwarven Chevrolet Corvette?