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Non-Lorebreaking Mounts for the future?

  • Abeille
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    k9mouse wrote: »
    Nirnrotten wrote: »
    With all the hype and hate focused on "lorebreaking" mounts and their exuberant prices what sort of lore friendly mounts would you like to see in the future?

    I vote for the Unicorn found in Oblivion. That mount killed many a monster for me. It's too bad it could never be stabled. :/ I went to such great lengths to keep em...

    The new mount is in lore because it is part of the Maw trial storyline -- a Khajiit and the 3rd Black moon curse.

    I think I saw some around Moonmont too, in Reaper's March. Also maybe inside the Do'Krin Monastery, but it's been a while since the last time I finished that map.
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
  • Nirnrotten
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    Trayzard wrote: »
    Explain yourself. Why are they lorebreaking?

    I personally believe that ESO creates lore and has Bethesda's blessing to do so. Forum posts recently have been all over the new mount, and so I purposefully placed lorebreaking in quotes.

    I love all the different mounts that have been released but want more. They have already said there will NOT be any flying mounts so any future mounts will be limited to the non-flyers. ZOS takes into account what players want to see in-game so I open the discussion to what mounts people want to see. I see Lore-friendly as pertaining to the creatures already in the Elder Scrolls Bestiary. Of course they can make up new lore if they wish but I'll leave that to the devs.
  • Egonieser
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    cyclonus11 wrote: »
    The game creates the lore, not the other way around.

    This, so much this!

    I keep telling people over and over again, this is NOT a game based on ANY real life book, story, novel or film or whatnot else.
    The lore is there to serve the GAME not other way around. Drill this deep in your skulls "immershunistz".
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  • Gargath
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    I want an Echatere mount! Already in-game so not hard to make as mounts!
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    Any time I see this thing I wonder if it's still an ESO game. Making mount from thunderbugs is more lore friendly than this.
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  • bedlom
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    I asked them and now I will ask you. How are they lore breaking? Have you actually read a TES book? Or are you just a google simpleton?
    Do you really expect people on the ESO forum to be as ignorant to the lore as you are being?

    Btw no need to respond I already know the answers I just like responding to dumb posts : )
  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    Oompuh wrote: »
    If we really don't want to break lore, then only khajiits would be allowed to ride the senches. The only race a senche-tiger allows on its back is the proud feline Khajiit.

    I believe Ysmir rode a senche when he assaulted Ash mountain, or was that Jurgen Windcaller. I forget. It doesn't matter there is -some- precedent however small that more than khajiit have ridden senche.
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  • Nirnrotten
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    bedlom wrote: »
    I asked them and now I will ask you. How are they lore breaking? Have you actually read a TES book? Or are you just a google simpleton?
    Do you really expect people on the ESO forum to be as ignorant to the lore as you are being?

    Btw no need to respond I already know the answers I just like responding to dumb posts : )

    Don't even get me started on the Infernal City. I bought it, and it was a painful read. Every single character, regardless of race spoke in the same tone with perfect grammar. No accents or anything. Only TES novel I've read. There isn't many.

    In regards to your question, I personally do not believe the current mounts are lorebreaking but makes for good clickbait. Got you to comment didn't it? I mostly wanted to read about the different mounts people would want to see in game but knew not to expect that. Mostly I expected comments calling people ignorant and dumb, because somehow those comments seem to thrive all over the internet.
  • FortheloveofKrist
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    The market determines the lore. Period.

  • bedlom
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    Nirnrotten wrote: »
    bedlom wrote: »
    I asked them and now I will ask you. How are they lore breaking? Have you actually read a TES book? Or are you just a google simpleton?
    Do you really expect people on the ESO forum to be as ignorant to the lore as you are being?

    Btw no need to respond I already know the answers I just like responding to dumb posts : )

    Don't even get me started on the Infernal City. I bought it, and it was a painful read. Every single character, regardless of race spoke in the same tone with perfect grammar. No accents or anything. Only TES novel I've read. There isn't many.

    In regards to your question, I personally do not believe the current mounts are lorebreaking but makes for good clickbait. Got you to comment didn't it? I mostly wanted to read about the different mounts people would want to see in game but knew not to expect that. Mostly I expected comments calling people ignorant and dumb, because somehow those comments seem to thrive all over the internet.

    So long story short...I am right!
  • dtm_samuraib16_ESO
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    Wamasu!
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  • Nirnrotten
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    Wamasu!

    I would love to see more Lizard Mounts too! Wamasu are sweet..
  • dimensional
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    A Wamasu mount would absolutely make my day.
  • IrishGirlGamer
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    I would like to be able to buy more real horses. They don't necessarily need to be added to Crown store, just increase the color and variety of horses available.

    But if the crown store is the only way to get them, I'm okay with that. I'd really like something like this:

    connemara.jpg

    Or this:

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  • dimensional
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    More real horses would be cool, and they should be sold for gold IMO
  • dtm_samuraib16_ESO
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    A Wamasu mount would absolutely make my day.
    I can so see my lizard riding his lizard :P
    How 'lizardly'...
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  • Ghost-Shot
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    I genuinely fail to see how the new tiger is lore breaking, we literally just got an entire raid about its lore. And seriously what's the big deal with lore? I get that its important to the game and what not but why should all this nonsense about lore get in the way of having fun with the game and getting cool mounts. @ZOS_RichLambert more of this please, but the price on this one is a bit crazy.
  • Abeille
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    I would like to be able to buy more real horses. They don't necessarily need to be added to Crown store, just increase the color and variety of horses available.

    But if the crown store is the only way to get them, I'm okay with that. I'd really like something like this:

    connemara.jpg


    We had something similar (though darker) long ago, but it was removed from the store :disappointed:

    The Dapple Gray Palfrey

    Dapple-Gray-Palfrey-Stamina.jpg

    I still regret not buying it.
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
  • k9mouse
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    Ghost-Shot wrote: »
    I genuinely fail to see how the new tiger is lore breaking, we literally just got an entire raid about its lore. And seriously what's the big deal with lore? I get that its important to the game and what not but why should all this nonsense about lore get in the way of having fun with the game and getting cool mounts. @ZOS_RichLambert more of this please, but the price on this one is a bit crazy.

    For any story to make sense it must follow rules about logic, what can and can not be part of the story. Also, to make sense it must follow the history of the world it is set in.

    That what lore does and why it is the important -- it tells the history and states the logic behind the story. Otherwise, the story without lore will be a mess of miss match of ideas like a book with random letters (JJjljllaaljl). Does "klafdjfajIUJJKLJjkaj" make a good story?
  • Ghost-Shot
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    k9mouse wrote: »
    Ghost-Shot wrote: »
    I genuinely fail to see how the new tiger is lore breaking, we literally just got an entire raid about its lore. And seriously what's the big deal with lore? I get that its important to the game and what not but why should all this nonsense about lore get in the way of having fun with the game and getting cool mounts. @ZOS_RichLambert more of this please, but the price on this one is a bit crazy.

    For any story to make sense it must follow rules about logic, what can and can not be part of the story. Also, to make sense it must follow the history of the world it is set in.

    That what lore does and why it is the important -- it tells the history and states the logic behind the story. Otherwise, the story without lore will be a mess of miss match of ideas like a book with random letters (JJjljllaaljl). Does "klafdjfajIUJJKLJjkaj" make a good story?

    I get that, but most of the time it gets brought up its like people want to remove anything interesting from the game because of that one line in some book I read in game 15 years ago. At some point you've got to give it a rest, its not like adding a cool mount changes the entire history of the games or anything.
  • k9mouse
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    Ghost-Shot wrote: »
    k9mouse wrote: »
    Ghost-Shot wrote: »
    I genuinely fail to see how the new tiger is lore breaking, we literally just got an entire raid about its lore. And seriously what's the big deal with lore? I get that its important to the game and what not but why should all this nonsense about lore get in the way of having fun with the game and getting cool mounts. @ZOS_RichLambert more of this please, but the price on this one is a bit crazy.

    For any story to make sense it must follow rules about logic, what can and can not be part of the story. Also, to make sense it must follow the history of the world it is set in.

    That what lore does and why it is the important -- it tells the history and states the logic behind the story. Otherwise, the story without lore will be a mess of miss match of ideas like a book with random letters (JJjljllaaljl). Does "klafdjfajIUJJKLJjkaj" make a good story?

    I get that, but most of the time it gets brought up its like people want to remove anything interesting from the game because of that one line in some book I read in game 15 years ago. At some point you've got to give it a rest, its not like adding a cool mount changes the entire history of the games or anything.

    I drop playing RIFT and other games because they throw lore out the window and I will do the same with ESO if ZOS does not follow lore of the TES games to a point. I am willing to let some aspects past just to make the playable. The main reason I got into TES games due to good storytelling and lore is a BIG part of that. There is a great many of us do not lose a great story due to some noob who something shiny that does not fit into the game. I do understand lore must change over time to support the game; however, lore is there for a reason and we show respect that reason.
    Edited by k9mouse on May 26, 2016 6:45PM
  • Gidorick
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    Abeille wrote:
    Gidorick wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    cyclonus11 wrote: »
    The game creates the lore, not the other way around.

    I completely agree with @cyclonus11 here... As long as ZOS actually BOTHERS to create the lore. The Dro-M'Athra mount has lore! We know what it is, we know why it is... even though there's a very minor inconsistency with it's existence, it's still lore :wink:

    This is very unlike the other mystical mounts we have. Lore behind the ice horse? Is there any?

    You mean like the lore behind the nightmare courser and the ice mount? Because if you call that one sentence description lore. I might have to question if youre being serious or not.

    I'm saying there is no lore behind the ice horse. I don't count item descriptions as lore @Korah_Eaglecry

    The Dro-M'Artha exist in the game... they are sort of being added as "living lore" and there are other things that have discussed the Dro-M'Artha, even prior to ESO.

    Where is a race of ice horses in the lore?

    All we have regarding the origins of the Frost mare is this description, saying that "Its exact origin is unknown, but the Mages Guild believes it may originally have come from Takubar, the plane of origin of Cold Flame Atronachs".

    I do consider official explanations to be lore, which is why I don't have any problems with it, but I would much prefer an in-game lore book that at least mentions it.


    I don't consider descriptions lore @Abeille ... and as an explanation it's VERY weak. We have hundreds of players running around on these things and NO ONE knows where they came from? Why don't you just ask one of the people running around on it? Oh... that's right. The only reason they have that ZOS has provided us is "Because I bought it from the Crown Store".

    How hard would it have been for ZOS to write and throw a book into the game? Or put a small grazing herd of them somewhere in the game? Or have a few in a couple of the NPC stables around Tamriel.

    I just want them in game in ANY other way besides "It was bought in the Crown Store". Even the description isn't in game... it's a Crown Store description.

    This is why I am totally fine with the Dro-M'Artha, because they exist in game in a way other than Crown Store fodder.
    Edited by Gidorick on May 26, 2016 8:15PM
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  • Ghost-Shot
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    k9mouse wrote: »
    Ghost-Shot wrote: »
    k9mouse wrote: »
    Ghost-Shot wrote: »
    I genuinely fail to see how the new tiger is lore breaking, we literally just got an entire raid about its lore. And seriously what's the big deal with lore? I get that its important to the game and what not but why should all this nonsense about lore get in the way of having fun with the game and getting cool mounts. @ZOS_RichLambert more of this please, but the price on this one is a bit crazy.

    For any story to make sense it must follow rules about logic, what can and can not be part of the story. Also, to make sense it must follow the history of the world it is set in.

    That what lore does and why it is the important -- it tells the history and states the logic behind the story. Otherwise, the story without lore will be a mess of miss match of ideas like a book with random letters (JJjljllaaljl). Does "klafdjfajIUJJKLJjkaj" make a good story?

    I get that, but most of the time it gets brought up its like people want to remove anything interesting from the game because of that one line in some book I read in game 15 years ago. At some point you've got to give it a rest, its not like adding a cool mount changes the entire history of the games or anything.

    I drop playing RIFT because they throw lore out the window and I will do the same with ESO if ZOS does not follow lore of the TES games to a point. I am willing to let some aspects past just to make the playable. The main reason I got into TES games due to good storytelling and lore is a BIG part of that. There is a great many of us do not lose a great story due to some noob who something shiny that does not fit into the game. I do understand lore must change over time to support the game; however, lore is there for a reason and we show respect that reason.

    I'm not saying throw the lore out the window, but ffs man let us have some fun here. I've always thought it was cool in WoW or Rift to see people riding a sweet mount you hadn't seen before and trying to figure out where they got it, I want to see more of that. I really don't think a few over the top mounts destroy 20 years worth of a game franchise.
  • k9mouse
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    Abeille wrote:
    Gidorick wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    cyclonus11 wrote: »
    The game creates the lore, not the other way around.

    I completely agree with @cyclonus11 here... As long as ZOS actually BOTHERS to create the lore. The Dro-M'Athra mount has lore! We know what it is, we know why it is... even though there's a very minor inconsistency with it's existence, it's still lore :wink:

    This is very unlike the other mystical mounts we have. Lore behind the ice horse? Is there any?

    You mean like the lore behind the nightmare courser and the ice mount? Because if you call that one sentence description lore. I might have to question if youre being serious or not.

    I'm saying there is no lore behind the ice horse. I don't count item descriptions as lore @Korah_Eaglecry

    The Dro-M'Artha exist in the game... they are sort of being added as "living lore" and there are other things that have discussed the Dro-M'Artha, even prior to ESO.

    Where is a race of ice horses in the lore?

    All we have regarding the origins of the Frost mare is this description, saying that "Its exact origin is unknown, but the Mages Guild believes it may originally have come from Takubar, the plane of origin of Cold Flame Atronachs".

    I do consider official explanations to be lore, which is why I don't have any problems with it, but I would much prefer an in-game lore book that at least mentions it.


    I don't consider descriptions lore... and as an explanation it's VERY weak. We have hundreds of players running around on these things and NO ONE knows where they came from? Why don't you just ask one of the people running around on it? Oh... that's right. The only reason they have that ZOS has provided us is "Because I bought it from the Crown Store".

    How hard would it have been for ZOS to write and throw a book into the game? Or put a small grazing herd of them somewhere in the game? Or have a few in a couple of the NPC stables around Tamriel.

    I just want them in game in ANY other way besides "It was bought in the Crown Store". Even the description isn't in game... it's a Crown Store description.

    This is why I am totally fine with the Dro-M'Artha, because they exist in game in a way other than Crown Store fodder.

    I do agree with you about being in game 1st then the crown store as way to explain WHY they are in game in the first place. About, Dro-M'Artha are in game and they are part of Maw trail.
  • Duiwel
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    This game has a Loremaster that has literally got an elder scroll at his disposal @Lawrence_Schick is his name and he is epic, he is the Morgan Freeman of Bethesda & Zenimax ( epic voice ).

    Also whatever this game adds becomes lore for future games.

    -insert deal with it meme

    (I for one salute the creativity instead of just sticking with already existing creatures they are adding so much to the game in terms of new animals and beasts :smiley: )
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  • Abeille
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    Abeille wrote:
    Gidorick wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    cyclonus11 wrote: »
    The game creates the lore, not the other way around.

    I completely agree with @cyclonus11 here... As long as ZOS actually BOTHERS to create the lore. The Dro-M'Athra mount has lore! We know what it is, we know why it is... even though there's a very minor inconsistency with it's existence, it's still lore :wink:

    This is very unlike the other mystical mounts we have. Lore behind the ice horse? Is there any?

    You mean like the lore behind the nightmare courser and the ice mount? Because if you call that one sentence description lore. I might have to question if youre being serious or not.

    I'm saying there is no lore behind the ice horse. I don't count item descriptions as lore @Korah_Eaglecry

    The Dro-M'Artha exist in the game... they are sort of being added as "living lore" and there are other things that have discussed the Dro-M'Artha, even prior to ESO.

    Where is a race of ice horses in the lore?

    All we have regarding the origins of the Frost mare is this description, saying that "Its exact origin is unknown, but the Mages Guild believes it may originally have come from Takubar, the plane of origin of Cold Flame Atronachs".

    I do consider official explanations to be lore, which is why I don't have any problems with it, but I would much prefer an in-game lore book that at least mentions it.


    I don't consider descriptions lore... and as an explanation it's VERY weak. We have hundreds of players running around on these things and NO ONE knows where they came from? Why don't you just ask one of the people running around on it? Oh... that's right. The only reason they have that ZOS has provided us is "Because I bought it from the Crown Store".

    How hard would it have been for ZOS to write and throw a book into the game? Or put a small grazing herd of them somewhere in the game? Or have a few in a couple of the NPC stables around Tamriel.

    I just want them in game in ANY other way besides "It was bought in the Crown Store". Even the description isn't in game... it's a Crown Store description.

    This is why I am totally fine with the Dro-M'Artha, because they exist in game in a way other than Crown Store fodder.

    Yes, I agree. I would much rather have them in game before having them as mounts. It was one of the things I worried about when they announced Dire Wolf mounts (I am not aware of wolves big enough to serve as mounts in past TES lore, but point me to them if they existed), but then they went and put them as animals in the Gold Coast and also added a book on "taming" them to the game, so there's that.

    I imagine both horses are summoned as daedric creatures from their respective oblivion planes... But then, the people summoning them should be able to tell which plane they came from. And we have Cold Flame Atronachs in Coldharbour, so why not have a few Frost Mares in there too?

    And yes, at least a book about them would be great.
    Edited by Abeille on May 26, 2016 6:54PM
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
  • k9mouse
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    Abeille wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    Abeille wrote:
    Gidorick wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    cyclonus11 wrote: »
    The game creates the lore, not the other way around.

    I completely agree with @cyclonus11 here... As long as ZOS actually BOTHERS to create the lore. The Dro-M'Athra mount has lore! We know what it is, we know why it is... even though there's a very minor inconsistency with it's existence, it's still lore :wink:

    This is very unlike the other mystical mounts we have. Lore behind the ice horse? Is there any?

    You mean like the lore behind the nightmare courser and the ice mount? Because if you call that one sentence description lore. I might have to question if youre being serious or not.

    I'm saying there is no lore behind the ice horse. I don't count item descriptions as lore @Korah_Eaglecry

    The Dro-M'Artha exist in the game... they are sort of being added as "living lore" and there are other things that have discussed the Dro-M'Artha, even prior to ESO.

    Where is a race of ice horses in the lore?

    All we have regarding the origins of the Frost mare is this description, saying that "Its exact origin is unknown, but the Mages Guild believes it may originally have come from Takubar, the plane of origin of Cold Flame Atronachs".

    I do consider official explanations to be lore, which is why I don't have any problems with it, but I would much prefer an in-game lore book that at least mentions it.


    I don't consider descriptions lore... and as an explanation it's VERY weak. We have hundreds of players running around on these things and NO ONE knows where they came from? Why don't you just ask one of the people running around on it? Oh... that's right. The only reason they have that ZOS has provided us is "Because I bought it from the Crown Store".

    How hard would it have been for ZOS to write and throw a book into the game? Or put a small grazing herd of them somewhere in the game? Or have a few in a couple of the NPC stables around Tamriel.

    I just want them in game in ANY other way besides "It was bought in the Crown Store". Even the description isn't in game... it's a Crown Store description.

    This is why I am totally fine with the Dro-M'Artha, because they exist in game in a way other than Crown Store fodder.

    Yes, I agree. I would much rather have them in game before having them as mounts. It was one of the things I worried about when they announced Dire Wolf mounts, but then they went and put them as animals in the Gold Coast and also added a book on "taming" them to the game, so there's that.

    I imagine both horses are summoned as daedric creatures from their respective oblivion planes... But then, the people summoning them should be able to tell which plane they came from. And we have Cold Flame Atronachs in Coldharbour, so why not have a few Frost Mares in there too?

    And yes, at least a book about them would be great.

    Hey @ZOS_JessicaFolsom! Can you send this topic to our Lore Master, Lawrence Schick? This one thinks he has some work to do... :*<3o:)
  • Nirnrotten
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    Duiwel wrote: »
    This game has a Loremaster that has literally got an elder scroll at his disposal @Lawrence_Schick is his name and he is epic, he is the Morgan Freeman of Bethesda & Zenimax ( epic voice ).

    Also whatever this game adds becomes lore for future games.

    -insert deal with it meme

    (I for one salute the creativity instead of just sticking with already existing creatures they are adding so much to the game in terms of nelw animals and beasts :smiley: )

    I agree @Lawrence_Schick is the bee's knees. He has done a wonderful job at guiding the creation of this wondrous world which has captivated my heart and imagination for a very long time. I look forward to the future of the past that is Tamriel Unlimited. I also still really want to ride on a unicorn again... You hear that Lawrence?! Rofl!
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    Nirnrotten wrote: »
    Duiwel wrote: »
    This game has a Loremaster that has literally got an elder scroll at his disposal @Lawrence_Schick is his name and he is epic, he is the Morgan Freeman of Bethesda & Zenimax ( epic voice ).

    Also whatever this game adds becomes lore for future games.

    -insert deal with it meme

    (I for one salute the creativity instead of just sticking with already existing creatures they are adding so much to the game in terms of nelw animals and beasts :smiley: )

    I agree @Lawrence_Schick is the bee's knees. He has done a wonderful job at guiding the creation of this wondrous world which has captivated my heart and imagination for a very long time. I look forward to the future of the past that is Tamriel Unlimited. I also still really want to ride on a unicorn again... You hear that Lawrence?! Rofl!

    I always keep in mind something that he said a long time ago.
    He said that his job is not to say "this can't be done in TES", but "this is how this can be done in TES". I think that's a great way to see a universe like this one, where a huge part of the lore is based on NPC's opinions and experiences, with all their biases. I love to play with "what if scenarios", like "what if everything we think we know about x is wrong?". But I got too off-topic already, this has very little to do with mounts, sorry.

    I would like to see Unicorns introduced in some way. In the Second Era, there could be a few around.
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
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    How does a dwarven motorcycle sound, or a dwarven Chevrolet Corvette?
    AD | Malaya the Mystic ─ VR16 Khajiit Sorc | Shal'ina the Swift ─ VR16 Khajiit NB | Jòhn Cena ─ VR1 Khajiit NB | Priestess Shaari ─ VR1 Temp
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    How does a dwarven motorcycle sound, or a dwarven Chevrolet Corvette?

    Sounds awesome.
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