Yeah, the main AD zerg that hits EP all day long is the one with the really bad guy whos name is kinda the opposite of Success

I actually think AD have bigger numbers than any other faction at the moment; just larger DC guilds play smarter map control and AD just wanna hit EP all day long.

A lot of the AD smaller groups hit EP because the environment around Arrius is so easy to troll and escape big groups, plus they can take advantage of crappy slow-fall bugs.

DjSolJAH wrote: »

WassyLad wrote: »

RabNebula wrote: »

Bosov wrote: »

RabNebula wrote: »

Bosov wrote: »

Why is everyone talking about Haderus? Stop hijacking this topic, make your own!

Yellow zerg in scourge is horrible, ballgroup, so much proxy + vd (even single target) and all those towerfarms at Arius. I played on my blue since the new campaign started but yellow zerg is just as bad and maybe even worse... blues dont towerfarm but play objectives and nightcap which is the main reason they win. Blues actually care about winning the campaign while top leaderboard yellow care about having emp.

Blues tower farm Arrius all the time. Its always Blues and Yellows together and you'll look behind their lines down at Roebeck and you wont see crossed swords between AD and DC for absolutely hours, sometimes all night.

Its because the yellow zerg finds it easier to attack reds. Blues have Roebeck yet yellow zerg pushes Arius...

Exactly!

Its pretty stupid and highly suspect when it gets as bad as the other night where AD lost Alessia but didnt even bother with it and just went for Arrius still. The only reason Reds are at all easier than Blue is because Yellows are too submissive and scared to face up to the DC zergfest of Kings Legion while Reds continue to push round while also defending against AD. Reds take on zergs from both fronts day in day out. AD needs to stop feeding DC entire campaigns just because theyre too scared to fight on 2 fronts. Right now AD look like DC's little puppy dog being hand fed scraps.

I hear many AD talking about zergs at times but 1 group of Reds is not a "zerg" and that's when I hear it used. I had 14 guild members in my group the other day and got a message about being a zerg. If AD think more than 10 is a zerg then they probably get too scared to fight DC's ACTUAL arranged zergs. Someone needs to kick some sense into AD big time and help them start fighting with a little more pride than letting DC stroll around behind their lines at will.

There used to be a good pvp guild that solely pushed DC that collapsed a couple months back

That hasn't helped with holding back the blue zerg. Was annoyed this morning though we had alessia lost everything behind to blue including our scrolls and our Zerg was hitting sejanus which was red (and blue had emp)

I've noticed yellow have been taking blues home keeps last couple days because misk didn't want to lose emp. Smart taking away the home keep bonus.

That was actually my group haha!
We took bleakers looking to farm blues and no one came for ages then we jumped out the back took warden and collapsed the roof, again barely anyone came then we took glademist and the Reds took ales well and chalman and dethroned him

Ain't seen you on dalglish , do you still play, or maybe I have been lucky we have not crossed paths

RabNebula wrote: »

WassyLad wrote: »

RabNebula wrote: »

Bosov wrote: »

RabNebula wrote: »

Bosov wrote: »

Why is everyone talking about Haderus? Stop hijacking this topic, make your own!

Yellow zerg in scourge is horrible, ballgroup, so much proxy + vd (even single target) and all those towerfarms at Arius. I played on my blue since the new campaign started but yellow zerg is just as bad and maybe even worse... blues dont towerfarm but play objectives and nightcap which is the main reason they win. Blues actually care about winning the campaign while top leaderboard yellow care about having emp.

Blues tower farm Arrius all the time. Its always Blues and Yellows together and you'll look behind their lines down at Roebeck and you wont see crossed swords between AD and DC for absolutely hours, sometimes all night.

Its because the yellow zerg finds it easier to attack reds. Blues have Roebeck yet yellow zerg pushes Arius...

Exactly!

Its pretty stupid and highly suspect when it gets as bad as the other night where AD lost Alessia but didnt even bother with it and just went for Arrius still. The only reason Reds are at all easier than Blue is because Yellows are too submissive and scared to face up to the DC zergfest of Kings Legion while Reds continue to push round while also defending against AD. Reds take on zergs from both fronts day in day out. AD needs to stop feeding DC entire campaigns just because theyre too scared to fight on 2 fronts. Right now AD look like DC's little puppy dog being hand fed scraps.

I hear many AD talking about zergs at times but 1 group of Reds is not a "zerg" and that's when I hear it used. I had 14 guild members in my group the other day and got a message about being a zerg. If AD think more than 10 is a zerg then they probably get too scared to fight DC's ACTUAL arranged zergs. Someone needs to kick some sense into AD big time and help them start fighting with a little more pride than letting DC stroll around behind their lines at will.

There used to be a good pvp guild that solely pushed DC that collapsed a couple months back

That hasn't helped with holding back the blue zerg. Was annoyed this morning though we had alessia lost everything behind to blue including our scrolls and our Zerg was hitting sejanus which was red (and blue had emp)

Yeh and then on a regular basis Reds will see large groups of Blue and Yellow at Arrius not attacking each other.

Its funny you say there "used to be a good pvp guild". The green situation has actually caused 2 of the stronger EP guilds to quit due to burn out from fighting actual zergs on both fronts of 50+. Both were strong guilds capable of holding their own against that size of force but it gets tiresome and is causing EP to leave Scourge. The way that AD and DC zerg guilds are going about it is killing off a whole faction in pvp and pushing people to quit ESO all together. I see it on a daily basis at the moment. When that happens to the point EP have no force then where will the fun be? Is it those guilds sole goal to kill ESO? Long term its certainly heading that way by AD and DC teaming up to bully EP off Scourge completely. It wont be a fun game when that eventually happens.

I can assure you there is no "green alliance". Everyone always thinks the other two alliances are working against them.
The guild fell through because of a falling out not because they decided to team up with blues haha.
I think it was the old azuras star thread or maybe earlier in this one where we discussed possible reasons for the mindless zergs pushing arrius.

Our small group of say 6 players try to push blue as much as possible but when you siege a keep and you have 30 people jump out on you where's the fun in that. On the other hand I see why that's frustrating for you as you come up against zergs all day everyday.

You reds don't help yourselves much either, often blues have had emp and you've pushed yellows down to their home keeps and let blues run wild. Not saying that there's an alliance there people just go where the fights are.

There aren't enough guilds coordinating with each other... On all 3 sides.

Alot of the zergs are mindless lemmings that just follow their noses to the next keep on the horizon without looking at the map. They rely on others to do that kinda thing.

There's literally 1 or 2 guilds, no more, who try and play it tactically and catch another faction out by cutting off spawns/travelling routes, removing home keep bonuses etc.

The zerg just see a wall to run up to & they heavy resto staff it while waiting for each other to set up siege

It'll just end up going in cycles. At start in Azuras it was EP who had the numbers, then it switched to DC, and now AD in Scourge since everyone left Azuras.

MightyBantam34 wrote: »

Ain't seen you on dalglish , do you still play, or maybe I have been lucky we have not crossed paths

Don't play too much pvp lately; the lag is horrendous and I tend to get called out by groups of 20+ anytime I go anywhere on the map. Playing Templar support builds I can't really do much when that happens haha

I can't maintain the playtime I used to and I'd rather let other guys get experience of emp anyway; I kinda had long enough myself haha! Plus I hate the new bomb blade setup, so trying to stay away from that; I'll probably play a bit more small scale on my NB when I get a good destro/restro build setup.

Only time I ever get an extended time in Cyro is late on weekends due to the lag not being as bad.

I could never join blues mate; not after that farce of Azuras zergs haha!

I joined EP mainly because I seen a lot of the EP people were changing alliance and they were probably the weakest skill-wise. EP definitely has the most toxic players though, the arguments that take place on EP are like some kind of comedy sketch. Everyone hates everyone

Plus I already have 8 v16's and none are blues so I literally couldn't anyway!

EP are doing everything to get hated by blues and yellows. It's like a troll alliance. Everytime an alliance has an emperor, Reds hit on the other alliance. Don't be surprised if everyone loves to beat Reds. It's not an alliance between blues and yellows, it's just revenge.

Why bosov? Because your group of 10 with vd builds wipes( yesterday as a solo player these so called haters of zergs jumped me all 7 of them) or because some enjoy been part of a big team makes them bad players . These ex blues really need to get over there blue rage . 98% are bad pfttt
What happened to you guys didn't kings legion fill your big egos enough I just don't get the hate

Rant over

Bosov wrote: »

Silky_Shokz wrote: »

Dalglish wrote: »

I could never join blues mate; not after that farce of Azuras zergs haha!

I joined EP mainly because I seen a lot of the EP people were changing alliance and they were probably the weakest skill-wise. EP definitely has the most toxic players though, the arguments that take place on EP are like some kind of comedy sketch. Everyone hates everyone

Plus I already have 8 v16's and none are blues so I literally couldn't anyway!

Couldn't agree more about EP players. Hence why I stick to a small group. It's impossible to organise anything via area chat!

Haha lol that must be true since reds have way more really good players than blues but their alliance never seems to achieve much.. while 98% of blues is bad they still win every campaign.

The top reds arent even high in the leaderboards for Scourge...

Most of the better reds flip between characters; no guild is really interested in Emp so no-one really pushes it. We probably don't get anywhere because AD and DC groups seem to be obsessed with fighting at Arrius, while EP seem to be happy to sweep up the Defensive ticks without having to even move haha

When my group is online we can hold our own against any of the zergs, just gets tiring when it's literally only our group that will do anthing on the map. EP also have the biggest sewer brigade, can always rely on EP being the main faction in the sewers, just wish they'd go to a less busy campaign so our full population bar doesn't make them look even worse than they already are haha

MightyBantam34 wrote: »

Why bosov? Because your group of 10 with vd builds wipes( yesterday as a solo player these so called haters of zergs jumped me all 7 of them) or because some enjoy been part of a big team makes them bad players . These ex blues really need to get over there blue rage . 98% are bad pfttt
What happened to you guys didn't kings legion fill your big egos enough I just don't get the hate

Rant over

Hate is a strong word. More of a disliking

I was happy to stay friendly with DC players I ran with, until some people decided to run their mouths. I'm not tarnishing everyone with the same brush, but I'm it seems that some people took me leaving rather personally. I found this confusing and funny at the same time, as during everything I've remained good friends with Baz and even laughed about it all with him. So I believe it to be certain blues that need to get over themselves (no personal offense meant to yourself Bantam, I don't recall ever having a problem with you).

*Disclaimer:
Just to clarify, in no way do I consider myself to have a big ego. I have never claimed to be a good player.*

Hope this helps

Of course, every alliances are sometimes brainless, but Reds are the Kings for that.

Yellow zerg is the same as blue's. I find it funny to see you guys blaming the Kings Legion group while you have the exact same on your alliance.

These last days were really interesting as we could see ppl rerolling on yellow side when they had an emp and going back to blues when JM4IN disappeared. I have never used the spit emote so much.

I've personally no problem with people re rolling to play a different faction. It makes things interesting but everyone joining the over populated yellows is gonna be problem in the long run think last night scourge 3 bars yellow and haderus 3 bars yellows .
Also bosov never said you personally jumped me I said your group .

MightyBantam34 wrote: »

I've personally no problem with people re rolling to play a different faction. It makes things interesting but everyone joining the over populated yellows is gonna be problem in the long run think last night scourge 3 bars yellow and haderus 3 bars yellows .
Also bosov never said you personally jumped me I said your group .

Ill sort them out! Can't have that, ill demote them all and demand a 50k gold donation to the guild bank as penalty.

HugoSDN wrote: »

You're lucky if you manage to actually see the two groups. Most of the time, the lag is so intense when you're approaching them that you just go back... Haha

Haha yeah.. those framerate drops are insane

HugoSDN wrote: »

Of course, every alliances are sometimes brainless, but Reds are the Kings for that.

Yellow zerg is the same as blue's. I find it funny to see you guys blaming the Kings Legion group while you have the exact same on your alliance.

These last days were really interesting as we could see ppl rerolling on yellow side when they had an emp and going back to blues when JM4IN disappeared. I have never used the spit emote so much.

I switched alliances but haven't touched pvp with my old character it is a bit of a joke seeing someone on a blue when they own the whole map and switching to yellows when we take it back. Personally don't agree with people that do that if you've switched you've switched you shouldn't play both.

As far as I know the yellow Zerg are one big group filled with randoms they pick up from area chat. Unlike the kings legion mentality of inviting everyone from the roster. Still not saying it's right they're both just as bad.



Also for people saying the game was made to zerg, have you not read the patch notes lately? Less heals for large groups less AP for large groups, certain skills only affecting a certain amount of people in a group etc etc etc

Notice a trend??

On another note, I don't hate all zergs I quite like the French DC group, they play the map well and run in a smaller group don't know the exact numbers. Get along with them quite well and they're happy enough to do duels and stuff.

At least yellows fight on two fronts and the reds do too (sort of, since they're stuck at arrius all day) you either have the entire blue population on one side or the other it's a sheep mentality.

Some of the players in the Zerg may be good players but no one will ever know cause all they ever do is gap close you whilst the 40 Templars in the group radiant destruction you.
They never fight alone like I've said before you can almost hear their screams in guild chat as you attack them and you get piled on by the whole group and then tea bagged (lol) as if it takes skill.
As long as anyone stays in that Zerg they will never be noticed as a good player.

Footnote: I in no way think I'm an amazing player I get battered in duels regularly.