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Are people starting to give up on ZOS?

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Complaints and rants are dying down compared to one or two weeks ago. And less than 800 people watched ESO Live yesterday while the number were easily over 1000 in the past few months. Is ESO way past the turning point that it can never recover again?
  • aco5712
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    Complaints and rants are dying down compared to one or two weeks ago. And less than 800 people watched ESO Live yesterday while the number were easily over 1000 in the past few months. Is ESO way past the turning point that it can never recover again?

    i think its been past it for a long time for alot of people but the lack of another game to go to has kept them here
    Edited by aco5712 on September 26, 2015 11:17AM
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  • Mojmir
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    I gave up when they dropped IC, it was bearable until lag,loading screens, nerfs to regen,and the *** idea you could meld pvp and pve. no sub just playing on their dime now.maybe if they restructure their team and get it together ill start my billing again.

    Edited by Mojmir on September 26, 2015 11:21AM
  • jcaceresw
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    Well, I will drop this game when Fallout 4 and StarCraft2 Legacy of the Void comes on November 10. Next year DOOM will be released, so it will be a long time away from ESO. Not planning to resub again until 2 or 3 more DLC are released.
  • FuzzyDuck79
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    Must be the only game that releases New content and gets rid of half its users. Orsinium sales are going to be poor unless ZOS can do something amazing to pull it back.
  • Nergie4242
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    Its their own fault if so.
    You give me a chat box ZOS and I'll start giving you my money again.
  • Junglejim82
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    Never had faith to begin with but gave them a chance as they're new to me . I was highly critical of bungies way of handling things and initial impressions were zos would be more of the same ( no text chat , ignoring community pleas for it. Not even a /lurk ). No dev participation on the forums just go betweens. Devs ignoring their official forums but posting on reddit etc . They can improve with time if people give them it and while pvping with the guild remains fun I'll stick around . Main complaints are text chat , group finder and community relations
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  • Quintal
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    This game already showed it's best (1.5 pre-b2p announcement), now it's going only down-the-hill. Just waiting for Fallout 4
    Edited by Quintal on September 26, 2015 11:54AM
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    And yet another negativity filled post. Love this community so hard. :smiley:

    Also, I definitely would not buy Fallout IV upon release. Bethesda's games are always super glitchy upon release. I am waiting at least 6 months to get it.
    Edited by JD2013 on September 26, 2015 11:56AM
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    JD2013 wrote: »
    And yet another negativity filled post. Love this community so hard. :smiley:

    Also, I definitely would not buy Fallout IV upon release. Bethesda's games are always super glitchy upon release. I am waiting at least 6 months to get it.

    Is ESO any better in terms of polishing? While at least Bethesda or modders, as a matter of fact, can fix most of the bugs in 6 months. ESO still feels in beta after a year and a half.
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    aco5712 wrote: »
    Complaints and rants are dying down compared to one or two weeks ago. And less than 800 people watched ESO Live yesterday while the number were easily over 1000 in the past few months. Is ESO way past the turning point that it can never recover again?

    i think its been past it for a long time for alot of people but the lack of another game to go to has kept them here

    Pretty much this. I was bouncing between ESO and Witcher 3 for the last few months but finished Witcher 3.

    Started in June on console release. It took 3 or so months to explore the world and finished Cadwell's Gold quest. After that the game felt directionless. Go to Craglorn and it's empty cept for people doing crafting writs. Go to Cyrodiil and everyone is in IC. Go to IC and everyone is in the Arena district playing ESO death match / get your stones and run back to the arena door mini-game *shrug*

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    Not another doomsday thread. Oh hell, this is getting old.
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    JD2013 wrote: »
    And yet another negativity filled post. Love this community so hard. :smiley:

    Also, I definitely would not buy Fallout IV upon release. Bethesda's games are always super glitchy upon release. I am waiting at least 6 months to get it.

    Is ESO any better in terms of polishing? While at least Bethesda or modders, as a matter of fact, can fix most of the bugs in 6 months. ESO still feels in beta after a year and a half.

    See, I don't get that. I don't get why people throw that supposed statement of fact around. I play a couple of hours every night. I have rarely crashed. Very rarely run into any bugs. There was a bit of lag in Cyrodiil last night, but it evened out without crashing.

    Over the course of playing since beta, I have crashed less than ten times, had a broken launcher a couple of times and run into maybe one or two bugged quests.

    How is that so broken?
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    Crafting bag OP! ZOS nerf pls!
  • Jamersonb16_ESO
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    aco5712 wrote: »
    Complaints and rants are dying down compared to one or two weeks ago. And less than 800 people watched ESO Live yesterday while the number were easily over 1000 in the past few months. Is ESO way past the turning point that it can never recover again?

    i think its been past it for a long time for alot of people but the lack of another game to go to has kept them here

    So much this. The second a decent alternative is released ZOS are in real trouble. They've benefitted massively from a dreadful MMO market over the last year - particularly Archeage being such a disaster.
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    Anhedonie wrote: »
    Not another doomsday thread. Oh hell, this is getting old.

    Yes. Yes it is.
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    Crafting bag OP! ZOS nerf pls!
  • FuzzyDuck79
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    The game is going to change so much with the release of more dlc. We have had 1 release and they changed the game dramatically enough to make people walk away from it. The whole reason I bought this game was because I loved the whole "alliance war", which was brilliant, only now there is no allalliance war because people are either farming mats in a zerg or ganking at the bottom of a ladder in IC and Cyrodiil is just a cut through to IC. ZOS have taken their biggest selling point and thrown it away in favour of making a few sales. Customer support? QA? Who are these people? What do they do? They don't play their own game, test it or even look at feedback from people who do, clearly.
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    and most of those 800 done it just for laugh.
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    ZoS has been pushing IC as the PvP holy grail for two years, i have never found PvP more boring and sporadic then i do now.

    So sadly yes, and it doesn't help that the way they try to adjust the end game meta gives you whip lash.
    Edited by FireCowCommando on September 26, 2015 12:18PM
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    JD2013 wrote: »
    And yet another negativity filled post. Love this community so hard. :smiley:
    The game is going to change so much with the release of more dlc. We have had 1 release and they changed the game dramatically enough to make people walk away from it. The whole reason I bought this game was because I loved the whole "alliance war", which was brilliant, only now there is no allalliance war because people are either farming mats in a zerg or ganking at the bottom of a ladder in IC and Cyrodiil is just a cut through to IC. ZOS have taken their biggest selling point and thrown it away in favour of making a few sales. Customer support? QA? Who are these people? What do they do? They don't play their own game, test it or even look at feedback from people who do, clearly.

    Lol and this is what stems the negative,you can't be constructive with no one listening besides other players.
  • PinoZino
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    I'm starting to give up people who start to give up on ZOS.

    Honestly guys, who cares that a few people don't like the game (anymore)? Instead of creating bloglike articles about your personal feelings, mail all your gear and gold to me (PSN: PinoZino), log off and farewell.

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  • Elsonso
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    Well, the NA PC/Mac people appear to be more forgiving. The NA PS4 console players are fleeing the ship, as near as I can tell. A cursory investigation shows that just about any time of day on any day of the week, places like Davon's Watch and Vulkhel Guard are lightly populated on PS4. The four guilds I am in are often single digit attendance.

    Anecdotal with a limited sample set, to be sure, but a stark difference when compared to PC/Mac.

    I am sure that someone will bring up text chat. Oddly enough, if that were the big reason, the voice chat would still be quite busy, and it is no longer that way. I suspect they lost a ton of people in the skill point reset, which they admitted that the console people were unprepared for. "Please come back, we promise we won't do that again" (paraphrased from Rich Lambert on ESO Live)

    As for ESO Live attendance... While they have hit over 1000 people, they seem to lock in around 800-1000. They won't have anything interesting to talk about on ESO Live until they talk about Orsinium in late October or November, and I think people know that. If they drop into the 500-600 range, even with Orsinium, then they need to consider ending it or doing something else on ESO Live. Given this week's edition, it is possible they are already planning to stop doing ESO Live.
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    The thing with all the people saying that people that want the game to be good but keeps getting disappointed to leave are just digging a bigger hole for ESO to fall into later. When people keep leaving and there's just less and less new players, I'm sure everyone can do the math and figure out what will happen.
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    PinoZino wrote: »
    I'm starting to give up people who start to give up on ZOS.

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    aco5712 wrote: »
    Complaints and rants are dying down compared to one or two weeks ago. And less than 800 people watched ESO Live yesterday while the number were easily over 1000 in the past few months. Is ESO way past the turning point that it can never recover again?

    i think its been past it for a long time for alot of people but the lack of another game to go to has kept them here

    This ^^

    The fact they nerfed everyone's gear as they dropped their latest DLC, destroyed crafting, then before they even get the bugs out and all the other issues sorted, they already started selling in game items in the crown store that have barely been in the game a week for $40-$50 even more than the broken DLC they just launched...

    They could not be more obvious and in your face with the fact they just want $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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    Must be the only game that releases New content and gets rid of half its users. Orsinium sales are going to be poor unless ZOS can do something amazing to pull it back.

    True
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    PVErs are pissed off because of IC. No chat. No working dungeon finder. Console launch is over. No wonder community is bit toxic atm.
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    Sausage wrote: »
    PVErs are pissed off because of IC. No chat. No working dungeon finder. Console launch is over. No wonder community is bit toxic atm.

    PvPers are pissed off because of IC lol. It broke Cyordiil...
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    aco5712 wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    PVErs are pissed off because of IC. No chat. No working dungeon finder. Console launch is over. No wonder community is bit toxic atm.

    PvPers are pissed off because of IC lol. It broke Cyordiil...

    Im having blast in IC. Lost of small scale, duel, gank encounters.
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    JD2013 wrote: »
    And yet another negativity filled post. Love this community so hard. :smiley:

    Also, I definitely would not buy Fallout IV upon release. Bethesda's games are always super glitchy upon release. I am waiting at least 6 months to get it.
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    Sausage wrote: »
    aco5712 wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    PVErs are pissed off because of IC. No chat. No working dungeon finder. Console launch is over. No wonder community is bit toxic atm.

    PvPers are pissed off because of IC lol. It broke Cyordiil...

    Im having blast in IC. Lost of small scale, duel, gank encounters.

    please take me with you. All i find are 24 man pve zergs
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