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TALONS CC IS BLOCKABLE! Thanks ZOS!

  • Sanct16
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    Only reason I still play my DK is because I want to get Grand Overlord (5 mil to go).
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  • Darlgon
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    Sanct16 wrote: »
    Only reason I still play my DK is because I want to get Grand Overlord (5 mil to go).

    Pre grtz. but.. dont just come looking to me for AP.
    Power level to CP160 in a week:
    Where is the end game? You just played it.
    Why don't I have 300+ skill points? Because you skipped content along the way.
    Where is new content? Sigh.
  • hammayolettuce
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    HELLO ZOS DEVS ARE YOU ALIVE? BLINK ONCE FOR YES TWICE FOR... WAIT

    Please for the love of god just confirm whether or not this is intended so we can all decide whether or not to abandon our DKs.
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  • Teargrants
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    HELLO ZOS DEVS ARE YOU ALIVE? BLINK ONCE FOR YES TWICE FOR... WAIT

    Please for the love of god just confirm whether or not this is intended so we can all decide whether or not to abandon our DKs.
    Devs used Block on your appeals, it's super effective!
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  • hammayolettuce
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    @ZOS_BrianWheeler

    would you please tell us whether or not this was intended?
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  • hammayolettuce
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    Teargrants wrote: »
    HELLO ZOS DEVS ARE YOU ALIVE? BLINK ONCE FOR YES TWICE FOR... WAIT

    Please for the love of god just confirm whether or not this is intended so we can all decide whether or not to abandon our DKs.
    Devs used Block on your appeals, it's super effective!

    *spams appeal*
    Eventually they will run out of stamina...
    Edited by hammayolettuce on September 19, 2015 7:49PM
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  • Avonna
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    one day after all these nerfs/changes/things gone south....there will be only 11 people left playing/discussing nerfs and imbalances, while the rest of us moved on.

    and a moderator will still come in and say " tsk tsk , you know the rules you ....11 people..." " get along ..."
  • Darlgon
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    I'm am not a genie! :D

    I normally make a point to not post in summons threads (future summoners take note!),
    Darlgon wrote: »
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    Power level to CP160 in a week:
    Where is the end game? You just played it.
    Why don't I have 300+ skill points? Because you skipped content along the way.
    Where is new content? Sigh.
  •  Jules
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    HELLO ZOS DEVS ARE YOU ALIVE? BLINK ONCE FOR YES TWICE FOR... WAIT

    Please for the love of god just confirm whether or not this is intended so we can all decide whether or not to abandon our DKs.

    Seriously Snu <3

    Honestly, DK feels so lost as a class. Its manageable because it's got some great class skills and ultimates.... You can still play it, but there just seems to be no place to thrive for Magicka DK in PVP.

    You have no reliable class gap closer. So run S&B or just hustle your chunky a$$ to that sorc.
    You're forced into melee range as all your damage abilities are within 8 meters. Guess you could use reflect but you're gonna have to use it a lot as it only reflects 4.
    Your class heal has decided it does not want to heal you anymore. Run resto or gtfo & diaf.
    You can do some damage, but you have to partially spec for tankiness to survive this environment, so your damage is lackluster against anyone who has been playing the game longer than 5 minutes.
    You can't permablock, or really any amount of block for any amount of time. So the hoards of people around you just swallow you whole because.....
    **You have no escape**, except mist form which now is targetable without tab, and clearly displays where you are with an alliance indicator above your head to boot.
    Once you engage in combat, it's YOLO till the death.

    On top of everything, your talons can now be blocked, lol. Like ZOS has made it so hard to solo and so easy to QQ.
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  • Avonna
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    People summon you guys because they feel a critical issue exists. Having a policy to ignore critical issues from your playerbase seems like a bad idea to me. While you may avoid having to post in the thread, every player that stops by the thread and reads it will see critical issues being ignored and leave with a sour taste in their mouth.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    That right there is so very true.

    i do not play this game any longer , i do read /posts on the forums.....( a small glimmer of hope ) but i have to agree that , when someone new comes along, and searches the forums, there are many issues not being addressed .

    i see a Z near a post, and think, it finally happened, someone got a response......only to find out its some mod doing his/her
    behavioral therapy course credits on us. we need more communication , its just part of the deal! you already see what happens when YOU DONT ANSWER, try the other approach for a bit....basic
    Edited by Avonna on September 20, 2015 5:16PM
  • Teargrants
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    Armitas wrote: »
    Wait so I can roll the dice someone at ZOS happens to drop by a thread on their busy day, or I can try and summon someone for a critical issue and intentionally be ignored? What the heck kind of choice is that?

    People summon you guys because they feel a critical issue exists. Having a policy to ignore critical issues from your playerbase seems like a bad idea to me. While you may avoid having to post in the thread, every player that stops by the thread and reads it will see critical issues being ignored and leave with a sour taste in their mouth. That is the inevitable outcome of this policy. This thread has 4.2k views, that is your audience. I get that you guys want isolation from us crazy people, but why not take the opportunity and show 4,200 players that you care about your player base rather than show them that their concerns don't interest you. Everyone of those people are valuable players that either pay a sub or purchase the DLCs.
    Dat customer service spec tho.
    Jules wrote: »
    You have no reliable class gap closer. So run S&B or just hustle your chunky a$$ to that sorc.
    Gap close with most form, duh.
    Jules wrote: »
    You're forced into melee range as all your damage abilities are within 8 meters. Guess you could use reflect but you're gonna have to use it a lot as it only reflects 4.
    Working as intended, you're supposed to flap faster to achieve maximal lift for flight.
    Jules wrote: »
    Your class heal has decided it does not want to heal you anymore. Run resto or gtfo & diaf.
    You're supposed to run the 'creative use of game mechanics' build like those 2 EP sorcs.
    Jules wrote: »
    You can do some damage, but you have to partially spec for tankiness to survive this environment, so your damage is lackluster against anyone who has been playing the game longer than 5 minutes.
    You're supposed to switch to stam and put WB on 1 sec macro because skillzors.
    Jules wrote: »
    You can't permablock, or really any amount of block for any amount of time. So the hoards of people around you just swallow you whole because.....
    **You have no escape**, except mist form which now is targetable without tab, and clearly displays where you are with an alliance indicator above your head to boot.
    Once you engage in combat, it's YOLO till the death.
    You're supposed to wear Black Rose so that you can keep - oh wait that was DELETED FROM THE GAME, LMAO.
    Jules wrote: »
    On top of everything, your talons can now be blocked, lol. Like ZOS has made it so hard to solo and so easy to QQ.
    But that's the grand beauty of it all, ppl are supposed to stop blocking now because ZOS wants to remove it from the game, therefore you aren't supposed to notice the talons nerf. All your QQ tells ZOS is that they need to make blocking have negative stam regen. :lol:
    Edited by Teargrants on September 20, 2015 5:36PM
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  • hammayolettuce
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    The change to Talons now being blockable was intended; apologies for the undocumented change. That said, we are considering reverting this change in a future patch to make it not blockable again. What do you guys think?

    The change needs to be reverted next patch.. as in the next one coming next week.
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  • Yolokin_Swagonborn
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    Tonturri wrote: »
    As a magicka sorcerer, please give the poor DKs back their Talons. I feel so bad for them.

    But it is really fun to troll these threads and watch them cry. Funny, I don't recall any DKs coming to our defense regarding BE.

    Lel, you want me to defend BE when the fact that you could bolt out of any root made talons useless in the first place? Just get out.

    If roots prevented the use of BE would you support a revert to that nerf? I'm all for having more counters and less nerfs.

    I even argued against the scales nerf if they put an offensive purge skill in the game.

    But enough of that, lets not derail the thread.

    Revert Talons change.
    Edited by Yolokin_Swagonborn on September 21, 2015 4:27PM
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  • Darlgon
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    The change to Talons now being blockable was intended; apologies for the undocumented change. That said, we are considering reverting this change in a future patch to make it not blockable again. What do you guys think?

    Thanks for responding.

    I would LOVE to know the lack of logic behind making a GROUND AOE blockable. Can I now block AoE Lightning, Fire and Fear? How about making them REFLECT with my flappy flaps? I mean, it works with Meteor.
    Edited by Darlgon on September 21, 2015 4:36PM
    Power level to CP160 in a week:
    Where is the end game? You just played it.
    Why don't I have 300+ skill points? Because you skipped content along the way.
    Where is new content? Sigh.
  • vortexman11
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    Tonturri wrote: »
    As a magicka sorcerer, please give the poor DKs back their Talons. I feel so bad for them.

    But it is really fun to troll these threads and watch them cry. Funny, I don't recall any DKs coming to our defense regarding BE.

    Lel, you want me to defend BE when the fact that you could bolt out of any root made talons useless in the first place? Just get out.

    If roots prevented the use of BE would you support a revert to that nerf? I'm all for having more counters and less nerfs.

    I even argued against the scales nerf if they put an offensive purge skill in the game.

    But enough of that, lets not derail the thread.

    Revert Talons change.

    I wouldn't support that type of nerf to BE because I understand sorcs need that mobility, I do however support the the cost increase stacking. That guy I was responding too is here trolling the forums and said he wont support us because we didn't support sorcs when the cost was increased on BE, yet I'm sure each DK here was effected by a similar and even harsher change to blocking.

    But you're right, let's not derail this.
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  • Kobaal
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    The change to Talons now being blockable was intended; apologies for the undocumented change. That said, we are considering reverting this change in a future patch to make it not blockable again. What do you guys think?

    I think, like others have already said, that the root should not be blockable. The damage can be blockable still. I run this in a group PvP set up mainly for the root, not the damage. Making it blockable really gives me no reason to use it at all now seeing that many people still block cast.

    Thanks for reading!
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  • Armitas
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    Right now we have a direct portal to ZOS's attention. Let's make the best use of it, and be on our best behavior.
    Edited by Armitas on September 21, 2015 7:23PM
    Retired.
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  • vortexman11
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    Armitas wrote: »
    Right now we have a direct portal to ZOS's attention. Let's make the best use of it.

    BRING OUT THE LIST!
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  • caperon
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    The change to Talons now being blockable was intended; apologies for the undocumented change. That said, we are considering reverting this change in a future patch to make it not blockable again. What do you guys think?

    I think that developers don't play DK, so they don't know how they *** them nerf after nerf.
    Once good, now bad.
  • MudcrabsRus
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    Yes !!!!! Please fix, no more DK nerfs for the love of god
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