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Shields are getting changed to be critted

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Was just announced on the Live Stream
  • cazlonb16_ESO
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    I really can't understand what is going on in ZOS' minds. Several of the shields in game are already poor on live now, crap in the current version on the PTS and will be entirely useless with this change.

    The real issue is and always has been shield stacking. So why on earth will they not simply remove stacking and then adjust the various shields as necessary ?

    There doesn't seem to be any logic behind the current strategy of balancing the shields between each other and it's clearly not working.
  • Xsorus
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    Real issue is certain shields scaling off magicka vs health.

    This is one of those Blanket changes that will probably hurt most shields...then again since most shields are crap anyway it might not really matter
  • Soris
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    ZOS being ZOS. No surprise.
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  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    Now all they gotta do is stop the stacking.
  • Soris
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    I doubt they know how to do that
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  • exiledtyrant
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    The threshold needed to stop the crit overflow damage bug will be unobtainable now. Heals or go home it seems.
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  • olsborg
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    The real issue is and always has been shield stacking. So why on earth will they not simply remove stacking and then adjust the various shields as necessary ?

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    This. Remove stacking of different shields and leave the single shields alone. Someone who only uses one shield can barely keep it up as is, if you make them crittable....well...I dunno what to say...will be a bad decision.

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  • Merlin13KAGL
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    All good. They should allow shields to crit when cast, as well, for 150% the normal shield value.

    Should go both ways.
    Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...

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  • Dracane
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    Seriously ? Did they say that ? Well.... good night Sorc, good night damage shields.
    Hello Nightblade and Magicka DK overpowered damage
    Edited by Dracane on July 31, 2015 9:45PM
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  • Dracane
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    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    FENGRUSH is coming for his brothers in robes. Justice will be served.

    I promise, will be starting 100 threads if this really happens !
    Outrageous change, outrageous. I never expected them to do this. I think I reroll another class

    ZoS, then remove the shield nerf please
    Edited by Dracane on July 31, 2015 9:47PM
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  • Derra
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    All good. They should allow shields to crit when cast, as well, for 150% the normal shield value.

    Should go both ways.

    Yup. ;)
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  • FENGRUSH
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    Dracane wrote: »
    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    FENGRUSH is coming for his brothers in robes. Justice will be served.

    I promise, will be starting 100 threads if this really happens !
    Outrageous change, outrageous. I never expected them to do this. I think I reroll another class

    ZoS, then remove the shield nerf please

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  • Dracane
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    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    FENGRUSH is coming for his brothers in robes. Justice will be served.

    I promise, will be starting 100 threads if this really happens !
    Outrageous change, outrageous. I never expected them to do this. I think I reroll another class

    ZoS, then remove the shield nerf please

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  • danno8
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    Good lord.

    Blazing Shield / Radiant Ward are already off my bar in PvP.

    So I guess this will put them out of mind as well.
  • Kloud
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    Finally something about shields is being done!
  • Maulkin
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    I am curious to see what happens if you block behind the ward. Will that stop crits on the shield or not? And what of overflow damage? If the shield is critically hit, does the crit overflow on to your HP bar even if you are blocking?

    So many things to test.

    To be honest I think that is a good change as a sorc. Not sure if it's the best choice, but it's better than it currently is.

    I would have preferred the removal of shield stacking and a the damage rebuff moved to 40% (keeping shields as they are). Currentlyyou can still stack too big shields against magicka builds. Sorc vs Sorc will still be unending fight.
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  • Strider_Roshin
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    Hallelujah!!! That's the best news I've heard for quite some time :-D
  • RinaldoGandolphi
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    This makes my re-roll of night blade and templar justified.

    With this change light armor is dead for any class, its simply not viable at all unless you want to die.

    You can't be a caster in light armor, heaven forbid you have a damage shield and dont die in one hit.

    Without a damage shield all light armor users are naked in spell resist or physical resist against anyone with a sharpened weapon and even more so with a few point in spell erosion or piercing.

    Your damage shields already have no armor or spell resist and now the can be crit? Pointless lol

    The worst part is this screws templar more then anyone and they are already being miffed. Pathetic.
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  • timidobserver
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    Specs should feel honored. Zos is going really far to get around directly nerfing them. It is pretty amazing really.
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  • Dracane
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    Your damage shields already have no armor or spell resist and now the can be crit? Pointless lol


    indeed.For Auri-El's sake, if people have so many problems with shields, then nerf it a bit and decrease the value. But this change is too much. Nightblade gotta love this change.
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  • Zsymon
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    They probably simply don't have codewriters skilled enough to remove shield stacking, so they do what ZOS does and completely wreck shields to become useless skills.

    This is a 50% direct nerf to shields, and with damage overflow being unmitigated because of a bug they again don't have skilled enough codewriters to fix, it will destroy anyone using a shield.
    Edited by Zsymon on July 31, 2015 10:18PM
  • Satiar
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    Shields insanely OP on PTS. So much combining, but this is needed.
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  • Bashev
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    Satiar wrote: »
    Shields insanely OP on PTS. So much combining, but this is needed.

    +1
    I am pretty sure that most of the people who are wiring here have never tested in PTS. Shields rules. Their nerf is actually 5% because all the damage was reduced too. But there is no more dodge no more block and really low heal (at least GDB and rally). If you do not have shields you are an easy kill.
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  • Zsymon
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    Satiar wrote: »
    Shields insanely OP on PTS. So much combining, but this is needed.

    All the overflow damage after hitting a shield, is delivered to the target 100% unmitigated. Even if we'd wear heavy armor, it wouldn't help us at all. They need to fix that bug before implementing this massive nerf. Combine this with how easy it is to get 60%, 70% even 100% crit chance.
    Edited by Zsymon on July 31, 2015 10:23PM
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    P.S. can't wait to see all the threads sorcs are going to start.
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    Dracane wrote: »
    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    FENGRUSH is coming for his brothers in robes. Justice will be served.

    I promise, will be starting 100 threads if this really happens !
    Outrageous change, outrageous. I never expected them to do this. I think I reroll another class

    ZoS, then remove the shield nerf please

    So, let me get this right. In response to them nerfing your class, you threaten them with rerolling, a guarantee of 100's of hours of your playtime?

    Will you buy leveling scrolls to make it go by faster to? Don't forget to threaten them with that also!
  • k2blader
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    This makes my re-roll of night blade and templar justified.

    With this change light armor is dead for any class, its simply not viable at all unless you want to die.

    You can't be a caster in light armor, heaven forbid you have a damage shield and dont die in one hit.

    Without a damage shield all light armor users are naked in spell resist or physical resist against anyone with a sharpened weapon and even more so with a few point in spell erosion or piercing.

    Your damage shields already have no armor or spell resist and now the can be crit? Pointless lol

    The worst part is this screws templar more then anyone and they are already being miffed. Pathetic.

    So many people who are good (?) at PvP don't get this it's amazing.

    Ask them, how is a sorc supposed to survive?, I'm curious what they'd say.
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  • Saint_JiubB14_ESO
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    Another thread says they are 'considering' doing this. I'll have to watch a replay and find out.
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  • timidobserver
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    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    FENGRUSH is coming for his brothers in robes. Justice will be served.

    And Fengrush arrives to find nobody but nightblades because everyone else left.
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