KiraTsukasa wrote: »

BigMac_Smiley wrote: »

Nergie4242 wrote: »

Nergie4242 wrote: »

But you dont have to be sat there with it on your lap the whole time. I bought a mini keyboard and it sits next to me. If im looking for a group I do this complex manoeuvre.

I look at my screen.
I see someone shouting for a [dps] for [whatever instance]
I pick up my keyboard.
I type DPS here for [whatever instance]
I receive an invite.
I put down keyboard.
I plug in my mic
I say hello.
We all play the game.

So I ask you non text people this

Please point to the bit of text above which causes you problems?

No really I wasnt just saying it for fun.

Please tell me what part of the above detracts in ANY WAY from anyone's experience.
Or would it maybe just improve it?

The non-text people will not answer this becaue it is to logical. They know that it would not create any problems so they just avoid response like this.

Alright, I'll bite.

1- I don't live with my parents. I have to pay my own rent, bills, food, etc. I don't have an excess of cash to throw at a console that I play literally three games on by buying additional accessories to make a single thing work in a single game.

2- Even if I could afford to buy a bunch of extraneous accessories that really won't get much use, I don't have any convenient place to put it. That means it's going some place out of the way that requires extra effort to get, take to where I'm sitting, then take back when I'm done. I'm not lazy by any means, but I'm not getting up and down and running all over the place for a video game.

3- Due to the previously mentioned issue, I don't have a giant screen television. That means that a chat box, in any form, detracts from my view of the game. As I've also said previously, this is less of an issue on PC due to the fact that it is much easier to manipulate UI elements on screen to adjust it to something that works for you. If implemented, the chat box will either be too small to read, thus rendering it useless, or too big and an annoyance, causing the likelihood of me quitting the game entirely.

I stand by my initial statement, text chat is not practical on a console.

1.) Use your Computer Keyboard if you cant afford it. But I seriously doubt this is legit if you were willing to spend 400-500 dollars on a console that you would only want to play three games on. Also, a keyboard is not tied to a single game. You can use it to better utilize the messaging component of the console and search options in the stores. The Keyboard provides more function across the console, its not that limited.

2.) If youre using your computer keyboard, you put it back with your computer when youre done if you have no place for it. If you do decide to buy a keyboard JUST for the console. They have ones that literally plug themselves into the bottom of the controller, so where ever you put your controller, this is where your little keyboard attachment would go. Problem solved.

3.) You do know that the chatbox doesnt stay the same size from screen to screen right? Itll be smaller on your smaller tv. And since people are asking for it to be OPTIONAL. You can dismiss it so that it isnt on your screen at all. And you and the two others in here arguing against it can continue to enjoy your VOIP. Youre whole argument against it is about YOUR experience at the expense of others. Which has time and time again been stated by pro-texters to be something that would not interfere with those who do not wish to utilize it.

4.) DCUO and FFXIV has proven that text chat is practical on console MMOs.

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

BigMac_Smiley wrote: »

Nergie4242 wrote: »

Nergie4242 wrote: »

But you dont have to be sat there with it on your lap the whole time. I bought a mini keyboard and it sits next to me. If im looking for a group I do this complex manoeuvre.

I look at my screen.
I see someone shouting for a [dps] for [whatever instance]
I pick up my keyboard.
I type DPS here for [whatever instance]
I receive an invite.
I put down keyboard.
I plug in my mic
I say hello.
We all play the game.

So I ask you non text people this

Please point to the bit of text above which causes you problems?

No really I wasnt just saying it for fun.

Please tell me what part of the above detracts in ANY WAY from anyone's experience.
Or would it maybe just improve it?

The non-text people will not answer this becaue it is to logical. They know that it would not create any problems so they just avoid response like this.

Alright, I'll bite.

1- I don't live with my parents. I have to pay my own rent, bills, food, etc. I don't have an excess of cash to throw at a console that I play literally three games on by buying additional accessories to make a single thing work in a single game.

2- Even if I could afford to buy a bunch of extraneous accessories that really won't get much use, I don't have any convenient place to put it. That means it's going some place out of the way that requires extra effort to get, take to where I'm sitting, then take back when I'm done. I'm not lazy by any means, but I'm not getting up and down and running all over the place for a video game.

3- Due to the previously mentioned issue, I don't have a giant screen television. That means that a chat box, in any form, detracts from my view of the game. As I've also said previously, this is less of an issue on PC due to the fact that it is much easier to manipulate UI elements on screen to adjust it to something that works for you. If implemented, the chat box will either be too small to read, thus rendering it useless, or too big and an annoyance, causing the likelihood of me quitting the game entirely.

I stand by my initial statement, text chat is not practical on a console.

Honestly I am not sure why the HUD is not customizable myself. FFXIV's is for example even on console. If I had to wager a guess it would be that due to the simplified HUD ZOS didn't see a need for it to be customizable.

When players say things like - voice chat only limits the amount of people you can communicate in game at once, and how far your message reaches. That is a fact which holds true to everyone. However issues like playing on a 15" TV are more individualized. Are you the only one doing that probably not. However not everyone is doing that as well.

Zusia211 wrote: »

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

4.) DCUO and FFXIV has proven that text chat is practical on console MMOs.

This statement is what should be looked at by ZOS. They only said it would hurt gameplay, but then why are 2 other games with a similar immersion factor for players able to do it nicely and they cannot?

I personally throw Warframe in as well. While not an MMO per say, there are guilds, and peer to peer trading. Both of which are greatly assisted by text chat.

dday3six wrote: »

mrskinskull wrote: »

Please be sure to visit this discussion and ask about any future possibility of a companion app for ESO!


When will we get our companion app?


Be sure to list what kind of features it should include.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/142023/eso-live-ask-us-anything/p78

If you really want a companion app why petition for it here in a thread about in game text chat. It's a seperate issue, make your own thread about it.

I am suggesting not petitioning and here's the kicker.

Its why I am pretty sure a companion app with text chat is coming:

They moved my text chat app thread here.

Somebody agrees the companion app belongs here and no separately.

VoidBlue wrote: »

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

VoidBlue wrote: »

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

BigMac_Smiley wrote: »

Nergie4242 wrote: »

Nergie4242 wrote: »

But you dont have to be sat there with it on your lap the whole time. I bought a mini keyboard and it sits next to me. If im looking for a group I do this complex manoeuvre.

I look at my screen.
I see someone shouting for a [dps] for [whatever instance]
I pick up my keyboard.
I type DPS here for [whatever instance]
I receive an invite.
I put down keyboard.
I plug in my mic
I say hello.
We all play the game.

So I ask you non text people this

Please point to the bit of text above which causes you problems?

No really I wasnt just saying it for fun.

Please tell me what part of the above detracts in ANY WAY from anyone's experience.
Or would it maybe just improve it?

The non-text people will not answer this becaue it is to logical. They know that it would not create any problems so they just avoid response like this.

Alright, I'll bite.

1- I don't live with my parents. I have to pay my own rent, bills, food, etc. I don't have an excess of cash to throw at a console that I play literally three games on by buying additional accessories to make a single thing work in a single game.

2- Even if I could afford to buy a bunch of extraneous accessories that really won't get much use, I don't have any convenient place to put it. That means it's going some place out of the way that requires extra effort to get, take to where I'm sitting, then take back when I'm done. I'm not lazy by any means, but I'm not getting up and down and running all over the place for a video game.

3- Due to the previously mentioned issue, I don't have a giant screen television. That means that a chat box, in any form, detracts from my view of the game. As I've also said previously, this is less of an issue on PC due to the fact that it is much easier to manipulate UI elements on screen to adjust it to something that works for you. If implemented, the chat box will either be too small to read, thus rendering it useless, or too big and an annoyance, causing the likelihood of me quitting the game entirely.

I stand by my initial statement, text chat is not practical on a console.

1.) id suggest you dont buy $20 worth of food for that month and get you a kayboard

2.) why wouldnt you just leave it next to the console? it makes no sense to put it somewhere else in another room. there isnt a spot on the floor next to the TV?

3.) the chat box is not gonna be the entire screen, it will more than likely be transparent, and more than likely be minimizable via a button while in the chat box.

1- Yes. Let's forgo eating. Because I've survived this long by putting my gaming habits over my personal health and well being. I guess I won't have to worry about the issue when I'm DEAD.

2- Makes sense. Put it on the floor. Where it's likely to be stepped on. And broken. And require to buy another one. Because throwing money at a problem certainly makes it go away.

3- I'm just going to drop the sarcasm for this one and flat out tell you that I have a 15" screen. The text that's already there is small enough as it is. A text box will be too big and annoying, or too small and worthless. Adding text chat will force me to quit the game. I'm sorry, but that's how it is.

lmao!

1.) missing out on those potato chips or pop isnt gonna kill you for one month for you can buy that cheap keyboard

2.) again why would you put it where it could be stepped on? you live alone as you said put it on the side of the tv on the floor. you act like a keyboard is a giant piece of furniture that will be in the way.

3.) text chat isnt going to replace voice chat, you can still use voice chat, text chat is just an optional choice for those who need it and want it to make the game more enjoyable.

This is the only kind of keyboard they would allow us to use if they let us use text chat. However I don't think its big enough... I was hoping it would be big enough to make it a coop keyboard... but oh well ...



lol

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

BigMac_Smiley wrote: »

Nergie4242 wrote: »

Nergie4242 wrote: »

But you dont have to be sat there with it on your lap the whole time. I bought a mini keyboard and it sits next to me. If im looking for a group I do this complex manoeuvre.

I look at my screen.
I see someone shouting for a [dps] for [whatever instance]
I pick up my keyboard.
I type DPS here for [whatever instance]
I receive an invite.
I put down keyboard.
I plug in my mic
I say hello.
We all play the game.

So I ask you non text people this

Please point to the bit of text above which causes you problems?

No really I wasnt just saying it for fun.

Please tell me what part of the above detracts in ANY WAY from anyone's experience.
Or would it maybe just improve it?

The non-text people will not answer this becaue it is to logical. They know that it would not create any problems so they just avoid response like this.

Alright, I'll bite.

1- I don't live with my parents. I have to pay my own rent, bills, food, etc. I don't have an excess of cash to throw at a console that I play literally three games on by buying additional accessories to make a single thing work in a single game.

2- Even if I could afford to buy a bunch of extraneous accessories that really won't get much use, I don't have any convenient place to put it. That means it's going some place out of the way that requires extra effort to get, take to where I'm sitting, then take back when I'm done. I'm not lazy by any means, but I'm not getting up and down and running all over the place for a video game.

3- Due to the previously mentioned issue, I don't have a giant screen television. That means that a chat box, in any form, detracts from my view of the game. As I've also said previously, this is less of an issue on PC due to the fact that it is much easier to manipulate UI elements on screen to adjust it to something that works for you. If implemented, the chat box will either be too small to read, thus rendering it useless, or too big and an annoyance, causing the likelihood of me quitting the game entirely.

I stand by my initial statement, text chat is not practical on a console.

Don't worry.

Zos know people in our situation are the actual majority.

I play on the console because I want one hour of game time to equal I hour of game time not.

45 mins of tech support and balancing the keyboard on my lap or straining to sift through the old text chat entries of rp players and page typers to find that guild request.

I need my fun quick and easy.

mrskinskull wrote: »

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

BigMac_Smiley wrote: »

Nergie4242 wrote: »

Nergie4242 wrote: »

But you dont have to be sat there with it on your lap the whole time. I bought a mini keyboard and it sits next to me. If im looking for a group I do this complex manoeuvre.

I look at my screen.
I see someone shouting for a [dps] for [whatever instance]
I pick up my keyboard.
I type DPS here for [whatever instance]
I receive an invite.
I put down keyboard.
I plug in my mic
I say hello.
We all play the game.

So I ask you non text people this

Please point to the bit of text above which causes you problems?

No really I wasnt just saying it for fun.

Please tell me what part of the above detracts in ANY WAY from anyone's experience.
Or would it maybe just improve it?

The non-text people will not answer this becaue it is to logical. They know that it would not create any problems so they just avoid response like this.

Alright, I'll bite.

1- I don't live with my parents. I have to pay my own rent, bills, food, etc. I don't have an excess of cash to throw at a console that I play literally three games on by buying additional accessories to make a single thing work in a single game.

2- Even if I could afford to buy a bunch of extraneous accessories that really won't get much use, I don't have any convenient place to put it. That means it's going some place out of the way that requires extra effort to get, take to where I'm sitting, then take back when I'm done. I'm not lazy by any means, but I'm not getting up and down and running all over the place for a video game.

3- Due to the previously mentioned issue, I don't have a giant screen television. That means that a chat box, in any form, detracts from my view of the game. As I've also said previously, this is less of an issue on PC due to the fact that it is much easier to manipulate UI elements on screen to adjust it to something that works for you. If implemented, the chat box will either be too small to read, thus rendering it useless, or too big and an annoyance, causing the likelihood of me quitting the game entirely.

I stand by my initial statement, text chat is not practical on a console.

Don't worry.

Zos know people in our situation are the actual majority.

I play on the console because I want one hour of game time to equal I hour of game time not.

45 mins of tech support and balancing the keyboard on my lap or straining to sift through the old text chat entries of rp players and page typers to find that guild request.

I need my fun quick and easy.

Then don't use a keyboard... no one would be forcing you lol

Zusia211 wrote: »

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

4.) DCUO and FFXIV has proven that text chat is practical on console MMOs.

This statement is what should be looked at by ZOS. They only said it would hurt gameplay, but then why are 2 other games with a similar immersion factor for players able to do it nicely and they cannot?

How do you play dcuo in first person again?



And how do I make my final fantasy character not look like a Disney cartoon trainwreck?

Immersion?

dday3six wrote: »

mrskinskull wrote: »

dday3six wrote: »

mrskinskull wrote: »

Please be sure to visit this discussion and ask about any future possibility of a companion app for ESO!


When will we get our companion app?


Be sure to list what kind of features it should include.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/142023/eso-live-ask-us-anything/p78

If you really want a companion app why petition for it here in a thread about in game text chat. It's a seperate issue, make your own thread about it.

I am suggesting not petitioning and here's the kicker.

Its why I am pretty sure a companion app with text chat is coming:

They moved my text chat app thread here.

Somebody agrees the companion app belongs here and no separately.

I was using petition as a synonym of resquest/ask for.

Also the mods likely linked your old thread to this one if it mentioned text chat often. They don't actually read over every detail of a thread. They use search engines programmed to show hits on key words. If text chat was key worded and there were multiple hits for it in that thread. It's reasonable sure that is why it was bundle here. I wouldn't go reading that as some sort of sign that a companion app is one the horizon.

Also weren't you complaining about text chat taking away time to develop dlc. You know a companion app would do the same right? Apps likes all systems need regular maintenance. That time could be spent doing other things, like developing dlc for example.

I'm fine without it, but if it was going to consume resources, then I think we have an opportunity on our hands to really enhance the ESO experience with a companion app.

What features would you like to see in the app?

mrskinskull wrote: »

dday3six wrote: »

mrskinskull wrote: »

dday3six wrote: »

mrskinskull wrote: »

Please be sure to visit this discussion and ask about any future possibility of a companion app for ESO!


When will we get our companion app?


Be sure to list what kind of features it should include.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/142023/eso-live-ask-us-anything/p78

If you really want a companion app why petition for it here in a thread about in game text chat. It's a seperate issue, make your own thread about it.

I am suggesting not petitioning and here's the kicker.

Its why I am pretty sure a companion app with text chat is coming:

They moved my text chat app thread here.

Somebody agrees the companion app belongs here and no separately.

I was using petition as a synonym of resquest/ask for.

Also the mods likely linked your old thread to this one if it mentioned text chat often. They don't actually read over every detail of a thread. They use search engines programmed to show hits on key words. If text chat was key worded and there were multiple hits for it in that thread. It's reasonable sure that is why it was bundle here. I wouldn't go reading that as some sort of sign that a companion app is one the horizon.

Also weren't you complaining about text chat taking away time to develop dlc. You know a companion app would do the same right? Apps likes all systems need regular maintenance. That time could be spent doing other things, like developing dlc for example.

I'm fine without it, but if it was going to consume resources, then I think we have an opportunity on our hands to really enhance the ESO experience with a companion app.

What features would you like to see in the app?

There are plenty of in game issues needing to be addressed which I feel are more important allocations of time over a companion app.

Mighty_oakk wrote: »

Surprised they didnt lock that poll, maybe things looking up. Text no longer a 4 letter word on the forums?

lets hope so, because dang text chat would make console ESO even more amazing.

I know the text chat thing is a HUGE debate for console and I am all for it but I thought of a really cool compromise that would make everyone happy! And I apologize if anyone has already said this. Why not implement the ability to make custom emotes?? That way when I want to ask someone in game who doesn't have a mic on if they want to run Fungal Grotto or whatever, I can just type up a custom emote that says it! That would be cool!

Or you know just general things, like when you are in a crafting location and EVERYONE is trying to sell stuff over the mic and it feels like you are in the NY Stock Exchange, would be cool to be able to type out an emote that says you have Iron Ingots to sell or Selling Khajiit Motif for 300G that just pops up over our head. That way if someone sees it, and wants it, they know where you are and can just come over and offer to trade!

I feel there are some emotes missing that were just general things that I would type in the text chat on PC that would be so nice if we could just create our own in a custom emote menu. What do you guys think?

RenhardtESO wrote: »

I know the text chat thing is a HUGE debate for console and I am all for it but I thought of a really cool compromise that would make everyone happy! And I apologize if anyone has already said this. Why not implement the ability to make custom emotes?? That way when I want to ask someone in game who doesn't have a mic on if they want to run Fungal Grotto or whatever, I can just type up a custom emote that says it! That would be cool!

Or you know just general things, like when you are in a crafting location and EVERYONE is trying to sell stuff over the mic and it feels like you are in the NY Stock Exchange, would be cool to be able to type out an emote that says you have Iron Ingots to sell or Selling Khajiit Motif for 300G that just pops up over our head. That way if someone sees it, and wants it, they know where you are and can just come over and offer to trade!

I feel there are some emotes missing that were just general things that I would type in the text chat on PC that would be so nice if we could just create our own in a custom emote menu. What do you guys think?

thats pretty much text chat but with bubbles lol except you wouldnt have a text chat box and you wouldnt have zone chat with that.

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

VoidBlue wrote: »

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

BigMac_Smiley wrote: »

Nergie4242 wrote: »

Nergie4242 wrote: »

But you dont have to be sat there with it on your lap the whole time. I bought a mini keyboard and it sits next to me. If im looking for a group I do this complex manoeuvre.

I look at my screen.
I see someone shouting for a [dps] for [whatever instance]
I pick up my keyboard.
I type DPS here for [whatever instance]
I receive an invite.
I put down keyboard.
I plug in my mic
I say hello.
We all play the game.

So I ask you non text people this

Please point to the bit of text above which causes you problems?

No really I wasnt just saying it for fun.

Please tell me what part of the above detracts in ANY WAY from anyone's experience.
Or would it maybe just improve it?

The non-text people will not answer this becaue it is to logical. They know that it would not create any problems so they just avoid response like this.

Alright, I'll bite.

1- I don't live with my parents. I have to pay my own rent, bills, food, etc. I don't have an excess of cash to throw at a console that I play literally three games on by buying additional accessories to make a single thing work in a single game.

2- Even if I could afford to buy a bunch of extraneous accessories that really won't get much use, I don't have any convenient place to put it. That means it's going some place out of the way that requires extra effort to get, take to where I'm sitting, then take back when I'm done. I'm not lazy by any means, but I'm not getting up and down and running all over the place for a video game.

3- Due to the previously mentioned issue, I don't have a giant screen television. That means that a chat box, in any form, detracts from my view of the game. As I've also said previously, this is less of an issue on PC due to the fact that it is much easier to manipulate UI elements on screen to adjust it to something that works for you. If implemented, the chat box will either be too small to read, thus rendering it useless, or too big and an annoyance, causing the likelihood of me quitting the game entirely.

I stand by my initial statement, text chat is not practical on a console.

1.) id suggest you dont buy $20 worth of food for that month and get you a kayboard

2.) why wouldnt you just leave it next to the console? it makes no sense to put it somewhere else in another room. there isnt a spot on the floor next to the TV?

3.) the chat box is not gonna be the entire screen, it will more than likely be transparent, and more than likely be minimizable via a button while in the chat box.

1- Yes. Let's forgo eating. Because I've survived this long by putting my gaming habits over my personal health and well being. I guess I won't have to worry about the issue when I'm DEAD.

2- Makes sense. Put it on the floor. Where it's likely to be stepped on. And broken. And require to buy another one. Because throwing money at a problem certainly makes it go away.

3- I'm just going to drop the sarcasm for this one and flat out tell you that I have a 15" screen. The text that's already there is small enough as it is. A text box will be too big and annoying, or too small and worthless. Adding text chat will force me to quit the game. I'm sorry, but that's how it is.

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mrskinskull wrote: »

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

BigMac_Smiley wrote: »

Nergie4242 wrote: »

Nergie4242 wrote: »

But you dont have to be sat there with it on your lap the whole time. I bought a mini keyboard and it sits next to me. If im looking for a group I do this complex manoeuvre.

I look at my screen.
I see someone shouting for a [dps] for [whatever instance]
I pick up my keyboard.
I type DPS here for [whatever instance]
I receive an invite.
I put down keyboard.
I plug in my mic
I say hello.
We all play the game.

So I ask you non text people this

Please point to the bit of text above which causes you problems?

No really I wasnt just saying it for fun.

Please tell me what part of the above detracts in ANY WAY from anyone's experience.
Or would it maybe just improve it?

The non-text people will not answer this becaue it is to logical. They know that it would not create any problems so they just avoid response like this.

Alright, I'll bite.

1- I don't live with my parents. I have to pay my own rent, bills, food, etc. I don't have an excess of cash to throw at a console that I play literally three games on by buying additional accessories to make a single thing work in a single game.

2- Even if I could afford to buy a bunch of extraneous accessories that really won't get much use, I don't have any convenient place to put it. That means it's going some place out of the way that requires extra effort to get, take to where I'm sitting, then take back when I'm done. I'm not lazy by any means, but I'm not getting up and down and running all over the place for a video game.

3- Due to the previously mentioned issue, I don't have a giant screen television. That means that a chat box, in any form, detracts from my view of the game. As I've also said previously, this is less of an issue on PC due to the fact that it is much easier to manipulate UI elements on screen to adjust it to something that works for you. If implemented, the chat box will either be too small to read, thus rendering it useless, or too big and an annoyance, causing the likelihood of me quitting the game entirely.

I stand by my initial statement, text chat is not practical on a console.

Don't worry.

Zos know people in our situation are the actual majority.

I play on the console because I want one hour of game time to equal I hour of game time not.

45 mins of tech support and balancing the keyboard on my lap or straining to sift through the old text chat entries of rp players and page typers to find that guild request.

I need my fun quick and easy.

Why do you keep thinking you are the majority. I know you wish you where but you are not. I am not saying pro text people are either, But here look at this most recent poll http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/199830/console-should-text-chat-be-implemented-with-the-ic-patch/p1 Right now it looks like more favor text chat. It does need more vote before you can really say one way or the other.
Speak for yourself stop trying to speak for the majority.

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

I stand by my initial statement, text chat is not practical on a console.

DCUO and FF:ARR would like a word....

They implemented text chat in a practical and useful manner.

In DCUO, the chat box only appears if something new has been recieved (or you call it up). You don't want to get global or area messages? Simply remove those channels from the relevant tab.

I have multiple tabs in DCUO text chat:

1. tells, say (local chat) and league (guild).
2. LFG (also includes all channels from 1)
3. Trade, shout (area chat) etc. This is the junk tab I have just in case I want to check those channels.

I've mentioned before that Trade on USPS was a cesspool...the one time I checked it out I was shocked (not being from the US, I had never been exposed to that sort of racist vitriol). So I left and never went back.

I have no doubt that the "people" abusing other gamers via text chat would have been reported and sanctioned - thanks to text chat being loggable.