Console text chat discussion

mrskinskull

markt84 wrote: »

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Lupus_Draco wrote: »

I'll debate with the anti TEXT CHAT players for 20 pages before I were to give up on this topic. I have such high hopes for what this game will evolve into. First things first though, fix the communication. This is an MMO console or not. I've already stated that an MMO without the ability to communicate with the "Massive" amounts of players is just a side by side single player game. I can't help anyone that I see having an issue with a puzzle.
Example: One of the very first areas for Dominion has a puzzle where you must correctly order the moon phases. Well I see a player shocking himself over and over attempting to unlock the door. Of course I would like to help. Well my 18 month old is napping next to me. I didn't want to bust out my headset and chance waking up the grump. Assuming that they aren't deaf and speak english. Well no text chat. So I'm attempting to jump and point to get their attention. Eventually I get them to activate the first one, then I ran to the second one but the player had already attemped another out of order and restarted the process. After 10 minutes of attempting to help this person, I gave up. Something that should have been as easy as "activate the moon stones 1, 3, 4, then 2 and the door will unlock" in a text chat box, was a game of ritual dancing charades in an attempt to help that pour soul. He might still be there to this day... poor guy.
I have already argued the severe Cons when it comes to the 100ft radius voice chat catastrophe. Needless to say it doesn't function as an effective social communication tool for players. Rather only is helpful if you have already filtered through forums for a guild or posted your needs for one. We all know you can't scout in game, because well... no text chat.
I understand that with text chat comes Gold Spam. Trust me, my blacklist in FFXIV is full at 200 names. It also comes with trolls and children being children. I will however take all of that with my TEXT chat box, before attempting to find a group for "group" content without it.
As for some of these arguments about Controller in one hand and keyboard in the other.... seriously?... If you don't want to use the Text chat box... don't. Keep your headset and barking animals, and screaming children, and arguing siblings, and severely horrible music coming from the other side. The rest of us with any experience in a serious MMO what-so-ever would like our communication back.

Why do you need to go to forums to find a guild? I'm in 4 and never had to ask for 1, 3 are good active ones, and 1 is pure trading guild. Why can't you scout in voice chat? It happens ALL the time in PvP. Find a good guild, talk in there, group up, and if area chat is bothering you, turn it off. Why is this so difficult for you guys? Get a personality, make friends, join up. You're already hiding behind a screen, now you want to hide you're voice too? Not sure why it's so hard for you guys to verbally communicate....madness. Maybe it's because I've never been anti social

Now ur talking about ur kid asleep next to you, got it, good point.

I agree. I don't think theres much missing once you consider the vast network being in a guild opens you up to.

I joined one of the megs guilds with hundreds of people.
All I have to do is query in guild chat and boom. Help is instant or at least incoming.

Plus its fun just gabbing with a giant group while adventuring.

mrskinskull

Lupus_Draco wrote: »

I'll debate with the anti TEXT CHAT players for 20 pages before I were to give up on this topic. I have such high hopes for what this game will evolve into. First things first though, fix the communication. This is an MMO console or not. I've already stated that an MMO without the ability to communicate with the "Massive" amounts of players is just a side by side single player game. I can't help anyone that I see having an issue with a puzzle.
Example: One of the very first areas for Dominion has a puzzle where you must correctly order the moon phases. Well I see a player shocking himself over and over attempting to unlock the door. Of course I would like to help. Well my 18 month old is napping next to me. I didn't want to bust out my headset and chance waking up the grump. Assuming that they aren't deaf and speak english. Well no text chat. So I'm attempting to jump and point to get their attention. Eventually I get them to activate the first one, then I ran to the second one but the player had already attemped another out of order and restarted the process. After 10 minutes of attempting to help this person, I gave up. Something that should have been as easy as "activate the moon stones 1, 3, 4, then 2 and the door will unlock" in a text chat box, was a game of ritual dancing charades in an attempt to help that pour soul. He might still be there to this day... poor guy.
I have already argued the severe Cons when it comes to the 100ft radius voice chat catastrophe. Needless to say it doesn't function as an effective social communication tool for players. Rather only is helpful if you have already filtered through forums for a guild or posted your needs for one. We all know you can't scout in game, because well... no text chat.
I understand that with text chat comes Gold Spam. Trust me, my blacklist in FFXIV is full at 200 names. It also comes with trolls and children being children. I will however take all of that with my TEXT chat box, before attempting to find a group for "group" content without it.
As for some of these arguments about Controller in one hand and keyboard in the other.... seriously?... If you don't want to use the Text chat box... don't. Keep your headset and barking animals, and screaming children, and arguing siblings, and severely horrible music coming from the other side. The rest of us with any experience in a serious MMO what-so-ever would like our communication back.

H



That's why you are wrong.

I don't think there are any ant text chat people here.

Just pro text app and people who think they need to clutter everyone's screen with an awful text box that no one will read from across the living room.

We need a ESO app with text functionality.

Preserve the original intent of the console version and allow the guys that really hate hearing people have an option.

I for one am happy the way it is but would be interested in a reasonably priced app.

Ace_of_Destiny

mrskinskull wrote: »

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Lupus_Draco wrote: »

I'll debate with the anti TEXT CHAT players for 20 pages before I were to give up on this topic. I have such high hopes for what this game will evolve into. First things first though, fix the communication. This is an MMO console or not. I've already stated that an MMO without the ability to communicate with the "Massive" amounts of players is just a side by side single player game. I can't help anyone that I see having an issue with a puzzle.
Example: One of the very first areas for Dominion has a puzzle where you must correctly order the moon phases. Well I see a player shocking himself over and over attempting to unlock the door. Of course I would like to help. Well my 18 month old is napping next to me. I didn't want to bust out my headset and chance waking up the grump. Assuming that they aren't deaf and speak english. Well no text chat. So I'm attempting to jump and point to get their attention. Eventually I get them to activate the first one, then I ran to the second one but the player had already attemped another out of order and restarted the process. After 10 minutes of attempting to help this person, I gave up. Something that should have been as easy as "activate the moon stones 1, 3, 4, then 2 and the door will unlock" in a text chat box, was a game of ritual dancing charades in an attempt to help that pour soul. He might still be there to this day... poor guy.
I have already argued the severe Cons when it comes to the 100ft radius voice chat catastrophe. Needless to say it doesn't function as an effective social communication tool for players. Rather only is helpful if you have already filtered through forums for a guild or posted your needs for one. We all know you can't scout in game, because well... no text chat.
I understand that with text chat comes Gold Spam. Trust me, my blacklist in FFXIV is full at 200 names. It also comes with trolls and children being children. I will however take all of that with my TEXT chat box, before attempting to find a group for "group" content without it.
As for some of these arguments about Controller in one hand and keyboard in the other.... seriously?... If you don't want to use the Text chat box... don't. Keep your headset and barking animals, and screaming children, and arguing siblings, and severely horrible music coming from the other side. The rest of us with any experience in a serious MMO what-so-ever would like our communication back.

H



That's why you are wrong.

I don't think there are any ant text chat people here.

Just pro text app and people who think they need to clutter everyone's screen with an awful text box that no one will read from across the living room.

We need a ESO app with text functionality.

Preserve the original intent of the console version and allow the guys that really hate hearing people have an option.

I for one am happy the way it is but would be interested in a reasonably priced app.

There "he" goes again claiming there are "no anti-textchat" people here.
When just about two pages back I pretty much proved how hypocritical he is being.

And, he has me on his ignore list because I had the audacity to report a person in the game for spamming loud music and swearing at a 13 year old kid when the kid asked if he could turn it down so he could try to find people to play with.
So...he can't even see me calling him on his Buuuuuu...um...yeah.

I sure wish he could.

Lupus_Draco

mrskinskull wrote: »

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Lupus_Draco wrote: »

I'll debate with the anti TEXT CHAT players for 20 pages before I were to give up on this topic. I have such high hopes for what this game will evolve into. First things first though, fix the communication. This is an MMO console or not. I've already stated that an MMO without the ability to communicate with the "Massive" amounts of players is just a side by side single player game. I can't help anyone that I see having an issue with a puzzle.
Example: One of the very first areas for Dominion has a puzzle where you must correctly order the moon phases. Well I see a player shocking himself over and over attempting to unlock the door. Of course I would like to help. Well my 18 month old is napping next to me. I didn't want to bust out my headset and chance waking up the grump. Assuming that they aren't deaf and speak english. Well no text chat. So I'm attempting to jump and point to get their attention. Eventually I get them to activate the first one, then I ran to the second one but the player had already attemped another out of order and restarted the process. After 10 minutes of attempting to help this person, I gave up. Something that should have been as easy as "activate the moon stones 1, 3, 4, then 2 and the door will unlock" in a text chat box, was a game of ritual dancing charades in an attempt to help that pour soul. He might still be there to this day... poor guy.
I have already argued the severe Cons when it comes to the 100ft radius voice chat catastrophe. Needless to say it doesn't function as an effective social communication tool for players. Rather only is helpful if you have already filtered through forums for a guild or posted your needs for one. We all know you can't scout in game, because well... no text chat.
I understand that with text chat comes Gold Spam. Trust me, my blacklist in FFXIV is full at 200 names. It also comes with trolls and children being children. I will however take all of that with my TEXT chat box, before attempting to find a group for "group" content without it.
As for some of these arguments about Controller in one hand and keyboard in the other.... seriously?... If you don't want to use the Text chat box... don't. Keep your headset and barking animals, and screaming children, and arguing siblings, and severely horrible music coming from the other side. The rest of us with any experience in a serious MMO what-so-ever would like our communication back.

H



That's why you are wrong.

I don't think there are any ant text chat people here.

Just pro text app and people who think they need to clutter everyone's screen with an awful text box that no one will read from across the living room.

We need a ESO app with text functionality.

Preserve the original intent of the console version and allow the guys that really hate hearing people have an option.

I for one am happy the way it is but would be interested in a reasonably priced app.

Lol. Fair enough. You can call me Pro text app. You can call it whatever you want. Just give us a text option to reach the masses of an MMO. As far as across the room?? I know it's a console, but who actually plays across the room? Maybe a new thread for that?

bareheiny

80 notifications...all from this thread. Another 10 or so while I'm playing catch up.

And nothing constructive from ZOS....just circular (and a few petty) arguments from the regulars.


Pros:

Optional text chat is not divisive in any way, shape or form.
It is not cumbersome to use text chat...even if one chooses to use a full size keyboard.
There are multiple reasons for using text - communicating with the hearing impaired, using things like Google Translate to chat with folk who do not speak English.
Finding groups.
Holding multiple conversations at once - such as a few private chats, multiple guilds, and group....all at once.


Cons:

Gold sellers.
Spamming.
The general crap one gets over voice (for example the Trade channel in DCUO is a literal cesspool).
Screen clutter (eh...debatable, didn't bother me in DCUO or FF:ARR).


But in my opinion, the pros far outweigh the cons. Hell, you trust every player to behave on mic, why not trust them to behave with text chat? Maybe limit the number of texts per minute on public channels.

DeanWinchester88

Do these anti text chat people not understand what "options" mean? If you don't want your screen cluttered with texts, disable the damn thing. Continue using voice chat and let the people who want text chat to enable it for themselves. Go listen to "Imagine" by John Lennon, relax, and play your game how you want. Equality for all, everybody deserves to be happy.

Selfish people these days.

Vulsahdaal

mrskinskull wrote: »

I don't think there are any ant text chat people here.

Just pro text app and people who think they need to clutter everyone's screen with an awful text box that no one will read from across the living room.

Wont clutter if the text box is hidden/disabled. However, if one doesnt have a phone, then an app is useless..Also I am sure I wouldnt have trouble reading the text box, as I dont have trouble reading it now in PC version..

mrskinskull wrote: »

We need a ESO app with text functionality.

Not really, I know Id rather spend my time playing the game rather than staring at a phone..

NewBlacksmurf

DeanWinchester88 wrote: »

Do these anti text chat people not understand what "options" mean? If you don't want your screen cluttered with texts, disable the damn thing. Continue using voice chat and let the people who want text chat to enable it for themselves. Go listen to "Imagine" by John Lennon, relax, and play your game how you want. Equality for all, everybody deserves to be happy.

Selfish people these days.

This is kinda funny....equality for all doesn't fit into what you just wrote.

If a player is happy with their screen how does adding more to the screen fall into equality if they don't want it in the first place? (Lets assume if it comes there is an option to full remove this...but ZOS has a habit of not fully offering options as you use as ammunition to warrant adding text chat)


and...definition of Selfish:
(of a person, action, or motive) lacking consideration for others; concerned chiefly with one's own personal profit or pleasure.

VoidBlue

bareheiny wrote: »

80 notifications...all from this thread. Another 10 or so while I'm playing catch up.

And nothing constructive from ZOS....just circular (and a few petty) arguments from the regulars.


Pros:

Optional text chat is not divisive in any way, shape or form.
It is not cumbersome to use text chat...even if one chooses to use a full size keyboard.
There are multiple reasons for using text - communicating with the hearing impaired, using things like Google Translate to chat with folk who do not speak English.
Finding groups.
Holding multiple conversations at once - such as a few private chats, multiple guilds, and group....all at once.


Cons:

Gold sellers.
Spamming.
The general crap one gets over voice (for example the Trade channel in DCUO is a literal cesspool).
Screen clutter (eh...debatable, didn't bother me in DCUO or FF:ARR).


But in my opinion, the pros far outweigh the cons. Hell, you trust every player to behave on mic, why not trust them to behave with text chat? Maybe limit the number of texts per minute on public channels.

Lmao spamming? I get spammed all the time via voice chat, just today there was a kid poorly singing over mic begging for gold so he could buy a horse. I'd much rather ignore text chat than listen to that again. Text chat doesn't jump out at you like voice chat does, a small box of text that is easily missable and ignored or 20 people yelling and being annoying over voice chat.

Text chat please , give us text chat.

DeanWinchester88

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

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DeanWinchester88 wrote: »

Do these anti text chat people not understand what "options" mean? If you don't want your screen cluttered with texts, disable the damn thing. Continue using voice chat and let the people who want text chat to enable it for themselves. Go listen to "Imagine" by John Lennon, relax, and play your game how you want. Equality for all, everybody deserves to be happy.

Selfish people these days.

This is kinda funny....equality for all doesn't fit into what you just wrote.

If a player is happy with their screen how does adding more to the screen fall into equality if they don't want it in the first place? (Lets assume if it comes there is an option to full remove this...but ZOS has a habit of not fully offering options as you use as ammunition to warrant adding text chat)


and...definition of Selfish:
(of a person, action, or motive) lacking consideration for others; concerned chiefly with one's own personal profit or pleasure.

umm, didn't I just say it would be an option? Didn't I just say you can disable it?
We're not worried about ZOS's habits, from the beginning of this thread, people who asked for text chat have asked for the "option". Never has anybody said this should be something forced upon the whole community like you make it out to be.

And thank you for giving us the definition of selfish, because that sounds exactly like you.

bareheiny

VoidBlue wrote: »

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bareheiny wrote: »

80 notifications...all from this thread. Another 10 or so while I'm playing catch up.

And nothing constructive from ZOS....just circular (and a few petty) arguments from the regulars.


Pros:

Optional text chat is not divisive in any way, shape or form.
It is not cumbersome to use text chat...even if one chooses to use a full size keyboard.
There are multiple reasons for using text - communicating with the hearing impaired, using things like Google Translate to chat with folk who do not speak English.
Finding groups.
Holding multiple conversations at once - such as a few private chats, multiple guilds, and group....all at once.


Cons:

Gold sellers.
Spamming.
The general crap one gets over voice (for example the Trade channel in DCUO is a literal cesspool).
Screen clutter (eh...debatable, didn't bother me in DCUO or FF:ARR).


But in my opinion, the pros far outweigh the cons. Hell, you trust every player to behave on mic, why not trust them to behave with text chat? Maybe limit the number of texts per minute on public channels.

Lmao spamming? I get spammed all the time via voice chat, just today there was a kid poorly singing over mic begging for gold so he could buy a horse. I'd much rather ignore text chat than listen to that again. Text chat doesn't jump out at you like voice chat does, a small box of text that is easily missable and ignored or 20 people yelling and being annoying over voice chat.

Text chat please , give us text chat.

I don't see potential spamming as an issue myself...but it does seem to be a recurring con from the folk arguing* against text chat.


* I won't call them "anti-text" - that's counter productive. Some folk want text, some don't see the need for it....all our opinions are exactly that....opinions. What works for me won't necessarily work for you, and labeling each other causes more problems than it's worth.

VoidBlue

bareheiny wrote: »

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VoidBlue wrote: »

bareheiny wrote: »

80 notifications...all from this thread. Another 10 or so while I'm playing catch up.

And nothing constructive from ZOS....just circular (and a few petty) arguments from the regulars.


Pros:

Optional text chat is not divisive in any way, shape or form.
It is not cumbersome to use text chat...even if one chooses to use a full size keyboard.
There are multiple reasons for using text - communicating with the hearing impaired, using things like Google Translate to chat with folk who do not speak English.
Finding groups.
Holding multiple conversations at once - such as a few private chats, multiple guilds, and group....all at once.


Cons:

Gold sellers.
Spamming.
The general crap one gets over voice (for example the Trade channel in DCUO is a literal cesspool).
Screen clutter (eh...debatable, didn't bother me in DCUO or FF:ARR).


But in my opinion, the pros far outweigh the cons. Hell, you trust every player to behave on mic, why not trust them to behave with text chat? Maybe limit the number of texts per minute on public channels.

Lmao spamming? I get spammed all the time via voice chat, just today there was a kid poorly singing over mic begging for gold so he could buy a horse. I'd much rather ignore text chat than listen to that again. Text chat doesn't jump out at you like voice chat does, a small box of text that is easily missable and ignored or 20 people yelling and being annoying over voice chat.

Text chat please , give us text chat.

I don't see potential spamming as an issue myself...but it does seem to be a recurring con from the folk arguing* against text chat.


* I won't call them "anti-text" - that's counter productive. Some folk want text, some don't see the need for it....all our opinions are exactly that....opinions. What works for me won't necessarily work for you, and labeling each other causes more problems than it's worth.

Exactly, the same cons for text chat can be applied to voice chat. The only difference is text chat will help the game out and boost community and communication.

King Bozo

mrskinskull wrote: »

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King Bozo wrote: »

Unless your disabled or never went to school then how did anyone escape life without using a keyboard? We need text chat to solve in game problems.

I learned to talk before I learned to type.

I think everybody did then typing was created to avoid arseholes.

J2JMC

You're not allowed to have text chat because the it will clutter my screen while I have it disabled.

allyoudpsesarebad

89 pages still no word on text chat from zos deltia makes a post gets a response on the third page smh.....

bareheiny

VoidBlue wrote: »

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bareheiny wrote: »

VoidBlue wrote: »

bareheiny wrote: »

80 notifications...all from this thread. Another 10 or so while I'm playing catch up.

And nothing constructive from ZOS....just circular (and a few petty) arguments from the regulars.


Pros:

Optional text chat is not divisive in any way, shape or form.
It is not cumbersome to use text chat...even if one chooses to use a full size keyboard.
There are multiple reasons for using text - communicating with the hearing impaired, using things like Google Translate to chat with folk who do not speak English.
Finding groups.
Holding multiple conversations at once - such as a few private chats, multiple guilds, and group....all at once.


Cons:

Gold sellers.
Spamming.
The general crap one gets over voice (for example the Trade channel in DCUO is a literal cesspool).
Screen clutter (eh...debatable, didn't bother me in DCUO or FF:ARR).


But in my opinion, the pros far outweigh the cons. Hell, you trust every player to behave on mic, why not trust them to behave with text chat? Maybe limit the number of texts per minute on public channels.

Lmao spamming? I get spammed all the time via voice chat, just today there was a kid poorly singing over mic begging for gold so he could buy a horse. I'd much rather ignore text chat than listen to that again. Text chat doesn't jump out at you like voice chat does, a small box of text that is easily missable and ignored or 20 people yelling and being annoying over voice chat.

Text chat please , give us text chat.

I don't see potential spamming as an issue myself...but it does seem to be a recurring con from the folk arguing* against text chat.


* I won't call them "anti-text" - that's counter productive. Some folk want text, some don't see the need for it....all our opinions are exactly that....opinions. What works for me won't necessarily work for you, and labeling each other causes more problems than it's worth.

Exactly, the same cons for text chat can be applied to voice chat. The only difference is text chat will help the game out and boost community and communication.

Not to mention that you can selectively ignore text chat but still continue conversations with others. Can't do that in area if I leave area chat.

Can't even talk to folk in the two guilds I'm in at once

Or talk to one specific person who happens to be in a different faction or area of the map...well, not unless I use party chat.

VoidBlue

J2JMC wrote: »

You're not allowed to have text chat because the it will clutter my screen while I have it disabled.

Lol.

Not to mention would it really clutter the screen at all? You already have text showing up in the lower left screen when you loot items. How bad would it be to have a transparent text box for chatting.

Frankly I just noticed today after playing for a month loot items show up on the screen via text like that. That's how uncluttery a text chat box would be. It be like it wasn't there and we will all be happy campers.


Give us text chat!

Zensonar

J2JMC wrote: »

You're not allowed to have text chat because the it will clutter my screen while I have it disabled.

What's the point of a toggle helmet option if I always have it on?
Why are there brightness settings cluttering up my options menu? My set up is fine already.
Invert Y axis option is a pointless waste of developers time. I will never use it.

mrskinskull

DeanWinchester88 wrote: »

Do these anti text chat people not understand what "options" mean? If you don't want your screen cluttered with texts, disable the damn thing. Continue using voice chat and let the people who want text chat to enable it for themselves. Go listen to "Imagine" by John Lennon, relax, and play your game how you want. Equality for all, everybody deserves to be happy.

Selfish people these days.

I was going to say the same thing about you.

Text chat on console NEEDS to be in the form of an app. Not gawdy text box.

A fringe group feels the only way to have text chat is to interrupt and annoy the interface.

Most of the pro and con crowd agree on a text app.

Its the solution that will happen.

mrskinskull

King Bozo wrote: »

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mrskinskull wrote: »

King Bozo wrote: »

Unless your disabled or never went to school then how did anyone escape life without using a keyboard? We need text chat to solve in game problems.

I learned to talk before I learned to type.

I think everybody did then typing was created to avoid arseholes.

So everybody in voice chat is an 'arsehole'?

There aren't 'arseholes' ever on text chat?
Not even one?

bareheiny

mrskinskull wrote: »

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DeanWinchester88 wrote: »

Do these anti text chat people not understand what "options" mean? If you don't want your screen cluttered with texts, disable the damn thing. Continue using voice chat and let the people who want text chat to enable it for themselves. Go listen to "Imagine" by John Lennon, relax, and play your game how you want. Equality for all, everybody deserves to be happy.

Selfish people these days.

I was going to say the same thing about you.

Text chat on console NEEDS to be in the form of an app. Not gawdy text box.

A fringe group feels the only way to have text chat is to interrupt and annoy the interface.

Most of the pro and con crowd agree on a text app.

Its the solution that will happen.

I'd rather the text chat be implemented in-game....but if the app was expanded to include access to researching and crafting I'd be throwing money at it.

But the more I think about it, it seems it would be more resource intensive (dev wise)...the app would have to be multi-platform (Android, iOS, Windows etc.). Then there's the access issue - not everybody has a smart phone / tablet....whereas everybody has a copy of ESO and a console.

bareheiny

mrskinskull wrote: »

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King Bozo wrote: »

mrskinskull wrote: »

King Bozo wrote: »

Unless your disabled or never went to school then how did anyone escape life without using a keyboard? We need text chat to solve in game problems.

I learned to talk before I learned to type.

I think everybody did then typing was created to avoid arseholes.

So everybody in voice chat is an 'arsehole'?

There aren't 'arseholes' ever on text chat?
Not even one?

Well....how would we know - we don't have text chat to find out

mrskinskull

bareheiny wrote: »

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VoidBlue wrote: »

bareheiny wrote: »

80 notifications...all from this thread. Another 10 or so while I'm playing catch up.

And nothing constructive from ZOS....just circular (and a few petty) arguments from the regulars.


Pros:

Optional text chat is not divisive in any way, shape or form.
It is not cumbersome to use text chat...even if one chooses to use a full size keyboard.
There are multiple reasons for using text - communicating with the hearing impaired, using things like Google Translate to chat with folk who do not speak English.
Finding groups.
Holding multiple conversations at once - such as a few private chats, multiple guilds, and group....all at once.


Cons:

Gold sellers.
Spamming.
The general crap one gets over voice (for example the Trade channel in DCUO is a literal cesspool).
Screen clutter (eh...debatable, didn't bother me in DCUO or FF:ARR).


But in my opinion, the pros far outweigh the cons. Hell, you trust every player to behave on mic, why not trust them to behave with text chat? Maybe limit the number of texts per minute on public channels.

Lmao spamming? I get spammed all the time via voice chat, just today there was a kid poorly singing over mic begging for gold so he could buy a horse. I'd much rather ignore text chat than listen to that again. Text chat doesn't jump out at you like voice chat does, a small box of text that is easily missable and ignored or 20 people yelling and being annoying over voice chat.

Text chat please , give us text chat.

I don't see potential spamming as an issue myself...but it does seem to be a recurring con from the folk arguing* against text chat.


* I won't call them "anti-text" - that's counter productive. Some folk want text, some don't see the need for it....all our opinions are exactly that....opinions. What works for me won't necessarily work for you, and labeling each other causes more problems than it's worth.

I don't think there are even any people here who don't want text chat.


Its just many of us favor a second screen solution with other features over some invasive text box .

I really think zos is going to go text app. I think its why they left it off from the console.

Zensonar

VoidBlue wrote: »

Not to mention would it really clutter the screen at all? You already have text showing up in the lower left screen when you loot items.

That's impossible. It's too hard to do on a console, and even if it did exist you wouldn't be able to see it from your sofa. You must be imagining things.

Ace_of_Destiny

I finally put that guy "skin" on ignore.

Droning about how "most" people want an app, when only HE keeps bringing it up.

Up his shiney sock rack with that talk, mates!

Does anybody actually think that would be "better" to use thrid-party applications, and a second electronic device, to do something that has been done on one simple machine (whether PC or console) for over a decade?

Except that "dapper gentleman", of course.

He says he doesn't want to "have to hold a mini-keyboard" but...what exactly is a phone if not a mini-keyboard?!?



I swear he just wants to talk people into an app so that he can "win" and keep players from getting the IN GAME text-chat they need, and deserve.

DeanWinchester88

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DeanWinchester88 wrote: »

Do these anti text chat people not understand what "options" mean? If you don't want your screen cluttered with texts, disable the damn thing. Continue using voice chat and let the people who want text chat to enable it for themselves. Go listen to "Imagine" by John Lennon, relax, and play your game how you want. Equality for all, everybody deserves to be happy.

Selfish people these days.

I was going to say the same thing about you.

Text chat on console NEEDS to be in the form of an app. Not gawdy text box.

A fringe group feels the only way to have text chat is to interrupt and annoy the interface.

Most of the pro and con crowd agree on a text app.

Its the solution that will happen.

And yet again you don't get it. People who want text chat don't agree that it "interrupts" or "annoys" the interface. They wouldn't be asking for it in the first place. You shouldn't be worried if you're going to have it disabled anyways. Move along.

I play on PC and the text chat is not annoying in anyway. That's your issue. People are asking for this option, there's nothing harmful about it. You can continue playing the game as it is.

Neirymn

This thread is going circle. No one will give up on their opinion anyway. And for the record I'd rather have no text chat at all than an app: 2 screens, no thanks. I just want to play the way I like, just like everyone else. Voice chat makes stupid icons pop up over player's heads and pops up names in the bottom right corner of the screen, that is already intrusive, a text box that can be hidden will just be as intrusive as voice chat in the end.

Not to mention that ZOS said (17 june on reddit) IF they add a "more text centric way to chat" it will not be a straight chat window, so don't waste time arguing about a text box, they might come up with something else anyway.

VoidBlue

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Not to mention would it really clutter the screen at all? You already have text showing up in the lower left screen when you loot items.

That's impossible. It's too hard to do on a console, and even if it did exist you wouldn't be able to see it from your sofa. You must be imagining things.

I can see everything just fine from the chair I play on.

Shunravi

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Zensonar wrote: »

VoidBlue wrote: »

Not to mention would it really clutter the screen at all? You already have text showing up in the lower left screen when you loot items.

That's impossible. It's too hard to do on a console, and even if it did exist you wouldn't be able to see it from your sofa. You must be imagining things.

I can see everything just fine from the chair I play on.

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VoidBlue

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VoidBlue wrote: »

Zensonar wrote: »

VoidBlue wrote: »

Not to mention would it really clutter the screen at all? You already have text showing up in the lower left screen when you loot items.

That's impossible. It's too hard to do on a console, and even if it did exist you wouldn't be able to see it from your sofa. You must be imagining things.

I can see everything just fine from the chair I play on.

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Indeed.

Text chat please.