Console text chat discussion

Merkabeh · June 2015

Gamertaglemieux wrote: »

Hawk269 wrote: »

Dear Zos-

Please reconsider a Chat Box for those that want it. Make it a option at least. I was logged into the game for about 30 min and had to turn off voice chat because it was really bad. From feedback from others mics to the person constantly yelling and saying the game sucks etc. It is great when in a guild or with a group, but part of the game is interacting with random people to sell/trade items and the voice channel will need to be open to do this and it just is a mess. Give us the option to have chat box and let the end user decide if we want to use it or have it closed.

Please reconsider this decision.

Thank You!

[Tweaking the thread title slightly, as we're consolidating discussion of this matter into this thread]

I can only support text chat IF and ONLY there is an option to remove it from the screen.

I find text chat annoying and worthless, mainly since we have voice chat now anyway. Voice chat works fine and I have met people I enjoy gaming with that NEVER would met if forced to use text chat.

Text chat boxes serve to only remove and destroy my immersion playing the game.

We are definitely asking for an optional text chat window. Most of us agree voice comms have their strengths as well. For small group communication, I greatly prefer voice comms. However, for communication with randoms, through multiple channels at once and with large groups of players, text chat has distinct advantages.

Since those advantages may not apply to all players/groups, it makes perfect sense to be able to disable the UI window for text chat for those that don't want it, while allowing the tool for those that can get benefit from it.

In other words, it isn't about one or the other, or one being better then the other; it is about having the right tool for the job (because both systems have strengths and weaknesses) for those that want it.

Ace_of_Destiny · June 2015

King Bozo wrote: »

Everyone needs to post threads Everytime they are looking for delves, trials, and selling things. This will show how important text chat is needed.

Wrong.
That will just get all the console players banned from the forums.

Which is what, I think, many of the PC Users wish would happen anyway.

Shunravi · June 2015

Ace-2112 wrote: »

King Bozo wrote: »

Everyone needs to post threads Everytime they are looking for delves, trials, and selling things. This will show how important text chat is needed.

Wrong.
That will just get all the console players banned from the forums.

Which is what, I think, many of the PC Users wish would happen anyway.

Naww

Well maybe some of us....

Well, at least I don't have anything against you

allyoudpsesarebad · June 2015

so has there been any word on a text chat because this is a joke ive been playing since console release and im vr14 with 0 dungeons completed never find a group and in the off chance it did people were off doing other things.

Ace_of_Destiny · June 2015

allyoudpsesarebad wrote: »

so has there been any word on a text chat because this is a joke ive been playing since console release and im vr14 with 0 dungeons completed never find a group and in the off chance it did people were off doing other things.

I haven't been able to find a group for any dungeons either.
Sat in a Q for an hour one night...no luck.
Stood outside The Gulch for an hour one night talking to myself in Public Chat...no luck.

TC PLZ?

Thumbdunked · June 2015

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Thumbdunked wrote: »

uberkull wrote: »

wazzaroo wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

To EVERYONE who has quoted me in this thread

There are two different twitch live feeds where this topic has been addressed at different point in each. It's not one part of either. If you're too lazy or it's too much of a bother to go watch all the April and May twitch live's then....why would ZOS take your feedback into consideration.

The reasons I'm not linking specifics is because in April and May I did a detailed post on this topic which was locked in the console beta thread.

If you do not care enough to get the information from the source please do not make negative comments towards me or others.
Feel free to continue your feedback towards ZOS but do bring yourself up to speed on their prior stance, decisions so that your feedback is taken seriously by ZOS.

I'm not for adding it but if you are, at least do yourself the benefit of being relevant in your comments on the subject

Calm down there. You're a consumer, not a forum moderator.

He likes to live in his little world of make-believe. Forum Ambassador over on that forum, fight for marketing on this forum, back ZOS regardless of overwhelming public opinion.

It must be fun in the land of Smurfs.

I've fought this text chat battle since April, and it's exhausting. So I've boiled it down to this...

Text chat saves lives™

Agreed, @NewBlacksmurf again if your going to reference a video as part of your argument then please include the video name and the time stamp. If you cant do this then stop posting it to try and spread misinformation. If you cant validate your own argument by including the "specifics" then why should others go hunting for it?

If you missed it, ZOS keeps these on this site for future reference.
If you're suggesting that ZOS change their stance, make yourself fully aware of their decisions first.

As far as me posting any links....this is to no benefit to me as I've fine with their direction, decisions and statements as have watched them more than once.

If you have not, go watch them....no need to put a link as the links are on the forums on this site.
Go watch them...you guys are being silly or just lazy or trolling...which it seems to be more of trolling at this point

Im not going to go wading through videos to find 3 minutes of out dated information its your argument you supply the details nuff said. So like i said before back your argument up with the relevant information or move on.

allyoudpsesarebad · June 2015

lol try 6 hours or more a day sitting in q the system is a joke i just want to know text chat is coming or not so i can stop wasting my time getting crafting leveled up. just tell me if its being considered or something i dont want to keep wasting my time if text chat isnt coming. there is 0 logic behind not having it but just lmk.

Neirymn · June 2015

BigM wrote: »

Wait, so ZoS when B2P with a crown store because they said no one on console would pay the xbox1 live and Sony one and the sub for ESOTU. Yet you guys would be willing to pay for an app to text chat in ESOTU?

Wow, just wow!

If I remember right, somewhere in the FAQ about consoles future release when ESO was P2P (not sure if it's still there as things have changed since ESO went B2P), it said we wouldn't have to pay PSN+ and ESO monthly fee to play the game but only the ESO one. Same thing goes with FFXIV, it is P2P and you don't have to subscribe to the PSN+ in order to play the game on PS4. So that's not why ESO went buy to play.

Though I won't pay to use a text chat, I'll just go play another game if that really bores me. ^^

Ace_of_Destiny · June 2015

senhavran wrote: »

BigM wrote: »

Wait, so ZoS when B2P with a crown store because they said no one on console would pay the xbox1 live and Sony one and the sub for ESOTU. Yet you guys would be willing to pay for an app to text chat in ESOTU?

Wow, just wow!

If I remember right, somewhere in the FAQ about consoles future release when ESO was P2P (not sure if it's still there as things have changed since ESO went B2P), it said we wouldn't have to pay PSN+ and ESO monthly fee to play the game but only the ESO one. Same thing goes with FFXIV, it is P2P and you don't have to subscribe to the PSN+ in order to play the game on PS4. So that's not why ESO went buy to play.

Though I won't pay to use a text chat, I'll just go play another game if that really bores me. ^^

You don't need PS+ to play ESO...I let my neighbor try it out on one of my alternate PSN accounts, and tried to talk him into getting a PS4 and playing with me. He is a PC gamer though, and not really into MMOs, so I don't think the game won him over...yet.

Uberkull · June 2015

Dahkoht wrote: »

Dahkoht wrote: »

nastuug wrote: »

Locked, but you can still vote, lol: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/184987/regarding-communication-options-on-console

I suggest if you haven't voiced your vote on this thread to click and do so.

Even though it's locked it still takes votes.

forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/184987/regarding-communication-options-on-console

Still can vote.

Here was my poll pushing for console text chat in April when ZOS made the decision to pull it right before beta. And this was BEFORE console players even were able to play the game. Shows what players knew was needed.

Oh well, guess ZOS listens to only what they think matters.

Amiculi · June 2015

Ace-2112 wrote: »

senhavran wrote: »

BigM wrote: »

Wait, so ZoS when B2P with a crown store because they said no one on console would pay the xbox1 live and Sony one and the sub for ESOTU. Yet you guys would be willing to pay for an app to text chat in ESOTU?

Wow, just wow!

If I remember right, somewhere in the FAQ about consoles future release when ESO was P2P (not sure if it's still there as things have changed since ESO went B2P), it said we wouldn't have to pay PSN+ and ESO monthly fee to play the game but only the ESO one. Same thing goes with FFXIV, it is P2P and you don't have to subscribe to the PSN+ in order to play the game on PS4. So that's not why ESO went buy to play.

Though I won't pay to use a text chat, I'll just go play another game if that really bores me. ^^

You don't need PS+ to play ESO...I let my neighbor try it out on one of my alternate PSN accounts, and tried to talk him into getting a PS4 and playing with me. He is a PC gamer though, and not really into MMOs, so I don't think the game won him over...yet.

Were you playing it on your own PS4? The master account is the only account that needs PS+ on a system for all accounts to be able to play things online that require it.

shihku7 · July 2015

My first post on this forum. I also want to request TEXT CHAT as a feature!

It'd be great if the keyboard could be used to open various menus too

King Bozo · July 2015

Ace-2112 wrote: »

King Bozo wrote: »

Everyone needs to post threads Everytime they are looking for delves, trials, and selling things. This will show how important text chat is needed.

Wrong.
That will just get all the console players banned from the forums.

Which is what, I think, many of the PC Users wish would happen anyway.

I didn't think many pc players were left after 1.6

Zadaris2021 · July 2015

Yeah they need the hell out of a chat box. Honestly, I don't see how a game like this even functions without one. How do I sell ***? The game is gimped out of a market and business based aspect. MMO's thrive on the ability for players to sell and trade things to one another.

Also, finding groups would improve.

And lastly, we all need a troll every once in a while. To remind us that we're still regular, sound minded individuals inhabiting this planet. Good day

Zensonar · July 2015

Gamertaglemieux wrote: »

Text chat boxes serve to only remove and destroy my immersion playing the game.

But a big hairy Nord warrior talking to his mom in a squeeky 12 year old's voice and an American accent helps with the immersion?

Heromofo · July 2015

uberkull wrote: »

Dahkoht wrote: »

Dahkoht wrote: »

nastuug wrote: »

Locked, but you can still vote, lol: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/184987/regarding-communication-options-on-console

I suggest if you haven't voiced your vote on this thread to click and do so.

Even though it's locked it still takes votes.

forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/184987/regarding-communication-options-on-console

Still can vote.

Here was my poll pushing for console text chat in April when ZOS made the decision to pull it right before beta. And this was BEFORE console players even were able to play the game. Shows what players knew was needed.

Oh well, guess ZOS listens to only what they think matters.

Before console release i was looking foward to a fully voiced system. But after playing that tune changed quickly and i mean quickly. The sound is terrible your better off in psn chat and so many run their sound through their tv causing all kinds of problems. Hearing things from sexual noises to young kids using Racial slurs is just not for me. So now we are forced to use GroupMe for guild chat (phone app) and psn party for mates.

+1 for text chat asap as an option

j_labbeb16_ESO · July 2015

This thread is still going...

Your all acting like a bunch of kids who don't understand a simple two letter word...

"No"

43 pages so far, move on with your life, learn to adapt or fall behind.

Thumbdunked · July 2015

j_labbeb16_ESO wrote: »

This thread is still going...

Your all acting like a bunch of kids who don't understand a simple two letter word...

"No"

43 pages so far, move on with your life, learn to adapt or fall behind.

They Haven't said No, if you dont have any constructive content to add for either pro/anti then please refrain from posting your dribble in here.

Germal · July 2015

i wish you g

j_labbeb16_ESO wrote: »

This thread is still going...

Your all acting like a bunch of kids who don't understand a simple two letter word...

"No"

43 pages so far, move on with your life, learn to adapt or fall behind.

i smell some frustration !

keep it up guys

Merkabeh · July 2015

Germal wrote: »

i wish you g

j_labbeb16_ESO wrote: »

This thread is still going...

Your all acting like a bunch of kids who don't understand a simple two letter word...

"No"

43 pages so far, move on with your life, learn to adapt or fall behind.

i smell some frustration !

keep it up guys

Reeks of a troll to me...but maybe troll and frustration have a similar scent...lol...

nastuug · July 2015

Gamertaglemieux wrote: »

Hawk269 wrote: »

Dear Zos-

Please reconsider a Chat Box for those that want it. Make it a option at least. I was logged into the game for about 30 min and had to turn off voice chat because it was really bad. From feedback from others mics to the person constantly yelling and saying the game sucks etc. It is great when in a guild or with a group, but part of the game is interacting with random people to sell/trade items and the voice channel will need to be open to do this and it just is a mess. Give us the option to have chat box and let the end user decide if we want to use it or have it closed.

Please reconsider this decision.

Thank You!

[Tweaking the thread title slightly, as we're consolidating discussion of this matter into this thread]

I can only support text chat IF and ONLY there is an option to remove it from the screen.

I find text chat annoying and worthless, mainly since we have voice chat now anyway. Voice chat works fine and I have met people I enjoy gaming with that NEVER would met if forced to use text chat.

Text chat boxes serve to only remove and destroy my immersion playing the game.

Sallington · July 2015

Gamertaglemieux wrote: »

Hawk269 wrote: »

Dear Zos-

Please reconsider a Chat Box for those that want it. Make it a option at least. I was logged into the game for about 30 min and had to turn off voice chat because it was really bad. From feedback from others mics to the person constantly yelling and saying the game sucks etc. It is great when in a guild or with a group, but part of the game is interacting with random people to sell/trade items and the voice channel will need to be open to do this and it just is a mess. Give us the option to have chat box and let the end user decide if we want to use it or have it closed.

Please reconsider this decision.

Thank You!

[Tweaking the thread title slightly, as we're consolidating discussion of this matter into this thread]

I can only support text chat IF and ONLY there is an option to remove it from the screen.

I find text chat annoying and worthless, mainly since we have voice chat now anyway. Voice chat works fine and I have met people I enjoy gaming with that NEVER would met if forced to use text chat.

Text chat boxes serve to only remove and destroy my immersion playing the game.

"Immersion"

Ruining ESO since day 1.

If an optional text box ruins your 'mersion, then I think your imagination is worse than you think it is.

Cuyler · July 2015

"Immersion" ate my baby!

nastuug · July 2015

These immersion guys... man I'm loving this.

Varicite · July 2015

j_labbeb16_ESO wrote: »

This thread is still going...

Your all acting like a bunch of kids who don't understand a simple two letter word...

"No"

43 pages so far, move on with your life, learn to adapt or fall behind.

They haven't said "no", they said that they were open to adding some form of text-based communication further than what exists currently, be it through more quickchat wheel selections or otherwise.

That is pretty much the opposite of "No".

It's the game itself that is falling behind the PC version as soon as VOIP is introduced to PC. You may be happy about paying the same price for an inferior product, but I am not.

Sallington · July 2015

Varicite wrote: »

j_labbeb16_ESO wrote: »

This thread is still going...

Your all acting like a bunch of kids who don't understand a simple two letter word...

"No"

43 pages so far, move on with your life, learn to adapt or fall behind.

They haven't said "no", they said that they were open to adding some form of text-based communication further than what exists currently, be it through more quickchat wheel selections or otherwise.

That is pretty much the opposite of "No".

It's the game itself that is falling behind the PC version as soon as VOIP is introduced to PC. You may be happy about paying the same price for an inferior product, but I am not.

VOIP software like Teamspeak/Ventrilo/Mumble are so easy to use and have been part of the PC gaming community for so long that I don't even think they need to worry about integrated VOIP on PC. IF you have a mic on PC, and aren't already using any of those programs, I doubt you'd use the built-in voice chat either.

Varicite · July 2015

Sallington wrote: »

Varicite wrote: »

j_labbeb16_ESO wrote: »

This thread is still going...

Your all acting like a bunch of kids who don't understand a simple two letter word...

"No"

43 pages so far, move on with your life, learn to adapt or fall behind.

They haven't said "no", they said that they were open to adding some form of text-based communication further than what exists currently, be it through more quickchat wheel selections or otherwise.

That is pretty much the opposite of "No".

It's the game itself that is falling behind the PC version as soon as VOIP is introduced to PC. You may be happy about paying the same price for an inferior product, but I am not.

VOIP software like Teamspeak/Ventrilo/Mumble are so easy to use and have been part of the PC gaming community for so long that I don't even think they need to worry about integrated VOIP on PC. IF you have a mic on PC, and aren't already using any of those programs, I doubt you'd use the built-in voice chat either.

While that's true, soon you won't have to hope that somebody has a TS / Mumble server already, etc. Seems more like an ease of use change to me, to alleviate some of the dependence on 3rd party software.

Merkabeh · July 2015

Varicite wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

Varicite wrote: »

j_labbeb16_ESO wrote: »

This thread is still going...

Your all acting like a bunch of kids who don't understand a simple two letter word...

"No"

43 pages so far, move on with your life, learn to adapt or fall behind.

They haven't said "no", they said that they were open to adding some form of text-based communication further than what exists currently, be it through more quickchat wheel selections or otherwise.

That is pretty much the opposite of "No".

It's the game itself that is falling behind the PC version as soon as VOIP is introduced to PC. You may be happy about paying the same price for an inferior product, but I am not.

VOIP software like Teamspeak/Ventrilo/Mumble are so easy to use and have been part of the PC gaming community for so long that I don't even think they need to worry about integrated VOIP on PC. IF you have a mic on PC, and aren't already using any of those programs, I doubt you'd use the built-in voice chat either.

While that's true, soon you won't have to hope that somebody has a TS / Mumble server already, etc. Seems more like an ease of use change to me, to alleviate some of the dependence on 3rd party software.

While forcing consoles to rely on 3rd party software for text chat?!? Seems...I don't know...hypocritical to use that reasoning...

Varicite · July 2015

Merkabeh wrote: »

Varicite wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

Varicite wrote: »

j_labbeb16_ESO wrote: »

This thread is still going...

Your all acting like a bunch of kids who don't understand a simple two letter word...

"No"

43 pages so far, move on with your life, learn to adapt or fall behind.

They haven't said "no", they said that they were open to adding some form of text-based communication further than what exists currently, be it through more quickchat wheel selections or otherwise.

That is pretty much the opposite of "No".

It's the game itself that is falling behind the PC version as soon as VOIP is introduced to PC. You may be happy about paying the same price for an inferior product, but I am not.

VOIP software like Teamspeak/Ventrilo/Mumble are so easy to use and have been part of the PC gaming community for so long that I don't even think they need to worry about integrated VOIP on PC. IF you have a mic on PC, and aren't already using any of those programs, I doubt you'd use the built-in voice chat either.

While that's true, soon you won't have to hope that somebody has a TS / Mumble server already, etc. Seems more like an ease of use change to me, to alleviate some of the dependence on 3rd party software.

While forcing consoles to rely on 3rd party software for text chat?!? Seems...I don't know...hypocritical to use that reasoning...

Hence one of my multiple reasons for the addition of text-based chat on consoles. : )

Sallington · July 2015

Varicite wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

Varicite wrote: »

j_labbeb16_ESO wrote: »

This thread is still going...

Your all acting like a bunch of kids who don't understand a simple two letter word...

"No"

43 pages so far, move on with your life, learn to adapt or fall behind.

They haven't said "no", they said that they were open to adding some form of text-based communication further than what exists currently, be it through more quickchat wheel selections or otherwise.

That is pretty much the opposite of "No".

It's the game itself that is falling behind the PC version as soon as VOIP is introduced to PC. You may be happy about paying the same price for an inferior product, but I am not.

VOIP software like Teamspeak/Ventrilo/Mumble are so easy to use and have been part of the PC gaming community for so long that I don't even think they need to worry about integrated VOIP on PC. IF you have a mic on PC, and aren't already using any of those programs, I doubt you'd use the built-in voice chat either.

While that's true, soon you won't have to hope that somebody has a TS / Mumble server already, etc. Seems more like an ease of use change to me, to alleviate some of the dependence on 3rd party software.

I definitely won't say they shouldn't add it. Another option is always a good thing. I just think it should be SO low on their priority list that it shouldn't even be a talking point yet.