Console text chat discussion

CriD

Ok, for everyone saying calm down, please, listen to my logic.

1.)Voice chat stays.
2.) Text chat is implemented with an option to hide it.
3.) Why is there an argument amongst people?

Let me break it down further. Everyone that only wants the voice chat,I'm happy its working for you, but it isn't working for everyone. Alot of people that want text chat does not use the voice chat for your everyday game play, so you won't really hear them anyway.(that's about the argument against fragmenting the community which is fragmented worse without systems in place everyone is happy with). So if you pro only voice chat advocates can't talk to these people anyway, what's your argument. You could hide text with this in place and not worry about UI clutter.

Please find a flaw with my logic in a sensible manner and we can discuss it like sensible adults.

Amiculi

CriD wrote: »

Ok, for everyone saying calm down, please, listen to my logic.

1.)Voice chat stays.
2.) Text chat is implemented with an option to hide it.
3.) Why is there an argument amongst people?

Let me break it down further. Everyone that only wants the voice chat,I'm happy its working for you, but it isn't working for everyone. Alot of people that want text chat does not use the voice chat for your everyday game play, so you won't really hear them anyway.(that's about the argument against fragmenting the community which is fragmented worse without systems in place everyone is happy with). So if you pro only voice chat advocates can't talk to these people anyway, what's your argument. You could hide text with this in place and not worry about UI clutter.

Please find a flaw with my logic in a sensible manner and we can discuss it like sensible adults.

I assure you that's the argument we've been making since the beginning. The response is basically "No, you can't have things! You'd be having fun wrong! Go play MUDs!" etc.

I'm fairly sure they're only here to troll, or they're here on behalf of competitors, or they're just jerks.

I'm also not sure why they're allowed to continue stirring up trouble like they are. The Internet's method of dealing with trolls is basically the "lolumad? policy" i.e., the person who gets angry first gets banned/modded. It's completely backwards. It not only benefits trolling it ENCOURAGES it.

But, that aside, again, totally agree with your sentiment, it hits the nail on the head and is quite concise.

Thumbdunked

CriD wrote: »

Ok, for everyone saying calm down, please, listen to my logic.

1.)Voice chat stays.
2.) Text chat is implemented with an option to hide it.
3.) Why is there an argument amongst people?

Let me break it down further. Everyone that only wants the voice chat,I'm happy its working for you, but it isn't working for everyone. Alot of people that want text chat does not use the voice chat for your everyday game play, so you won't really hear them anyway.(that's about the argument against fragmenting the community which is fragmented worse without systems in place everyone is happy with). So if you pro only voice chat advocates can't talk to these people anyway, what's your argument. You could hide text with this in place and not worry about UI clutter.

Please find a flaw with my logic in a sensible manner and we can discuss it like sensible adults.

That pretty much sums it up, unfortunately some people dont understand rational logic.

Varicite

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Varicite wrote: »

nastuug wrote: »

Sausage wrote: »

I actually like Cyrodil more without chat. Teamwork, organized attacks, zergs, makes it bad, as it odd it might sound.

How does this hinder a few hundred people from a PVP guild from organizing with voice chat?

It doesn't, it just makes those who aren't in a PvP guild free AP for those who are. : P

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Guys n gals, they already responded on Twitch live.
They don't want to separate the population by having two forms of communication in console.
They went with voice chat.

-The End -

They also said that they were open to having some form of text communication on consoles, even if it isn't exactly a text chatbox.

Also, you don't get to denote when "The End" is for ANY discussion, so get off your high horse, please. Clearly, ZOS values the discussion on the merits for and against (which you aren't adding to in any shape or form, surprise surprise), which is why they have funneled all responses into a single thread that they have been keeping an eye on.

There are plenty of pros to a form of viable text-based chat of some form and really not very many cons.

The population is already separated between those who use VOIP and those who turn it off the second they log in because it's unpleasant to be bombarded w/ the types of noise pollution that often comes through in area chat.

They've added the radial pre-text and also addressed this now two or three times.
My comment does allow me to share and inform those who may not have watched those feeds or who may have been lead to believe otherwise based on the many off base comments in this thread.

They've said they are open to the communities feedback and continue this type of listening ear on multiple topics. On this topic they've also shared a few times their intent, direction, reasoning and future thoughts on forms of console communication.

You n I have gone back n forth on this many times but after their multiple statements since April, I'd hope that many choose to share feedback but not to lead others to believe ZOS is even considering changing their stance as they've communicated their decisions already. Nothing suggested adding this feature but only that they are looking into adding more pre-text emotes only.

I haven't led anyone to believe anything other than what ZOS has already stated themselves, which is that they're open to hearing discussion about the benefits / pitfalls of text-based communications on consoles.

They have never once implicitly said that they would not add text chat to the game at some point if the community wanted it, and there have been numerous points in the past that development has changed gears to accommodate reasonable requests from the community.

I would counter that the majority of your posts in this thread are an attempt to portray a situation where ZOS is flat-out unwilling to consider anything outside of the radial text wheel when it comes to text-based communication on consoles, and that is patently false.

You're right that you and I have gone back and forth on this many times, and you have also been wrong on many occasions when espousing these types of assumptions, from the very moment that @ZOS_JasonLeavey responded to me about not including text chat on consoles in the first place.

Yes, that was me he was talking to in the first place when the lack of text chat was announced, if you recall, and I'm quite well-versed in exactly what has been said about the matter since then.

I have no issue whatsoever w/ you chiming in and discussing your viewpoint; I encourage it. But if you're going to try to spin ZOS' words to mean something that they don't (again), don't be surprised if I call you on it.

suelothvar

Try being hard of hearing, no text chat meens I have no option but to use voice... Problem then becomes, for me to hear folk, they end up getting feedback from my mic (with no way to adjust mic sensitivity on Xbox 1)

I tried kinect, but the mic on it seems kinda crap and for some reason xbox1 didn't have a setting to allow sound via TV' but a separate mic.

CriD

@suelothvar, yeh lack of options sucks for situations like this. Kinect is with out a doubt probably the worst "MIC" Xbox has come up with. Hope you still have fun playing, this game is a blast for me, about to be 50 wooooot.

Yup people here seem to be toxic just to be toxic, its sad really. I wish we could have nice things.

Neirymn

Here's an official response concerning text chat on console if you missed it, it's 17 days old:

reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/39gv5r/the_elder_scroll_online_tamriel_unlimited_team/#cs38c9m

They're not saying they will never "add a more text centric way to chat".

suelothvar

Its cool, guild I joined are a good bunch and are putting up with it. I managed to get a headset for one ear, but it randomly goes from no feedback to "able to hear there own voices perfectly" voicecoms seem bit flakey.

Varicite

senhavran wrote: »

Here's an official response concerning text chat on console if you missed it, it's 17 days old:

reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/39gv5r/the_elder_scroll_online_tamriel_unlimited_team/#cs38c9m

They're not saying they will never "add a more text centric way to chat".

"Is it possible we could have a text chat? Yes. Will we? I don’t think we can safely say one way or another. It probably is safe to say if we add a more text centric way to chat it won’t be a straight chat window."

This is basically what they've said in other sources, as well.

And that's why this thread continues to exist, and that is also why I am generally careful to say "text-based chat" or "text-based communication" instead of calling it simply "text chat", as I understand fully that they are reluctant to do the chat window.

However, the chat window has worked out just fine in other games, w/ FFXIV being the most glaring recent example. So I personally don't agree w/ the reasoning that having legible text on the screen would be so detrimental to screen real estate as to make it prohibitive.

Amiculi

Varicite wrote: »

senhavran wrote: »

Here's an official response concerning text chat on console if you missed it, it's 17 days old:

reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/39gv5r/the_elder_scroll_online_tamriel_unlimited_team/#cs38c9m

They're not saying they will never "add a more text centric way to chat".

"Is it possible we could have a text chat? Yes. Will we? I don’t think we can safely say one way or another. It probably is safe to say if we add a more text centric way to chat it won’t be a straight chat window."

This is basically what they've said in other sources, as well.

And that's why this thread continues to exist, and that is also why I am generally careful to say "text-based chat" or "text-based communication" instead of calling it simply "text chat", as I understand fully that they are reluctant to do the chat window.

However, the chat window has worked out just fine in other games, w/ FFXIV being the most glaring recent example. So I personally don't agree w/ the reasoning that having legible text on the screen would be so detrimental to screen real estate as to make it prohibitive.

Well I guess they don't want any money from myself, my friends or a lot of other people around here. I'm remaining sturdy in my refusal to pay for an MMOG with no real MM.

[Edit: nice of them to hide their discussion on reddit while always telling everyone with suggestions to go to the official forums, then summarily ignoring us. *** hum.]

Thumbdunked

Amiculi wrote: »

Varicite wrote: »

senhavran wrote: »

Here's an official response concerning text chat on console if you missed it, it's 17 days old:

reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/39gv5r/the_elder_scroll_online_tamriel_unlimited_team/#cs38c9m

They're not saying they will never "add a more text centric way to chat".

"Is it possible we could have a text chat? Yes. Will we? I don’t think we can safely say one way or another. It probably is safe to say if we add a more text centric way to chat it won’t be a straight chat window."

This is basically what they've said in other sources, as well.

And that's why this thread continues to exist, and that is also why I am generally careful to say "text-based chat" or "text-based communication" instead of calling it simply "text chat", as I understand fully that they are reluctant to do the chat window.

However, the chat window has worked out just fine in other games, w/ FFXIV being the most glaring recent example. So I personally don't agree w/ the reasoning that having legible text on the screen would be so detrimental to screen real estate as to make it prohibitive.

Well I guess they don't want any money from myself, my friends or a lot of other people around here. I'm remaining sturdy in my refusal to pay for an MMOG with no real MM.

Recently gone back to ff14arr for the expansion the difference in community and social interaction is staggering. Its reinforced my point of view for text chat 10 fold.

Amiculi

Thumbdunked wrote: »

Amiculi wrote: »

Varicite wrote: »

senhavran wrote: »

Here's an official response concerning text chat on console if you missed it, it's 17 days old:

reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/39gv5r/the_elder_scroll_online_tamriel_unlimited_team/#cs38c9m

They're not saying they will never "add a more text centric way to chat".

"Is it possible we could have a text chat? Yes. Will we? I don’t think we can safely say one way or another. It probably is safe to say if we add a more text centric way to chat it won’t be a straight chat window."

This is basically what they've said in other sources, as well.

And that's why this thread continues to exist, and that is also why I am generally careful to say "text-based chat" or "text-based communication" instead of calling it simply "text chat", as I understand fully that they are reluctant to do the chat window.

However, the chat window has worked out just fine in other games, w/ FFXIV being the most glaring recent example. So I personally don't agree w/ the reasoning that having legible text on the screen would be so detrimental to screen real estate as to make it prohibitive.

Well I guess they don't want any money from myself, my friends or a lot of other people around here. I'm remaining sturdy in my refusal to pay for an MMOG with no real MM.

Recently gone back to ff14arr for the expansion the difference in community and social interaction is staggering. Its reinforced my point of view for text chat 10 fold.

But ZoS knows better than you. You aren't having real fun, it's cumbersome and difficult, you just don't know any better you poor deluded child.

I don't really have something else to go back to myself. As is I've only been logging on for my riding training the last several days, though, that's largely on account of RL circumstances.

TheUnshackled

I am for text chat alongside voice im just worried after seeing neverwinters text chat that it will be stupidity filled but if we get actual filters im all for it 100% my 2 main reasons for wanting it are for trade and for dungeons when mic isnt an option

Neirymn

Well I'm going to play FFXIV, I miss the good communication and services. I'm sure ZOS is trying their best to make a good TES online game and ESO is cool but my friends doesn't want to play it and I just can't help it, I need a text chat for social purposes (I feel so lonely as I can't and don't want to use voice chat) and I need to see character's name. I think I'll just play ESO when I want to do solo stuff and get away from FF dollish world. I won't give up on ESO but still, it's a little sad that I don't have that little thing that make me wish I can play this game all the time.

AdamBourke

Just out of curiosity...

Has anyone ever had successful conversation in area chat?

I mainly hear coughing, music and once what sounded like an alarm going off.

I have twice heard people speaking what I think was Spanish. The second one sounded like he was having a conversation with someone in the room with him though.

dreatern

AdamBourke wrote: »

Just out of curiosity...

Has anyone ever had successful conversation in area chat?

I mainly hear coughing, music and once what sounded like an alarm going off.

I have twice heard people speaking what I think was Spanish. The second one sounded like he was having a conversation with someone in the room with him though.

-bad music
-cough
-burp
-kids crying
-people talking about personal life without knowing that everyone is listening
-blowing
-microphone interference
-game sound returning from tv
-people talking nonsense
-fart
-shouting
-onomatopoeia

No conversation in area chat, only in group....

dabulls7491

Wow, some of you actually like the annoying area voice chat? Its so much easier to sell stuff/trade with a text box. As oppossed to dealing with annoying idiots.

Also Im usually on psn chat, so I dont even hear area, making text box and even more viable option.

LawyerLarry

I agree that text chat should be available. The very first thing I do upon logging on is turn off voice chat.

slipHAZARD

"Is it possible we could have a text chat? Yes. Will we? I don’t think we can safely say one way or another. It probably is safe to say if we add a more text centric way to chat it won’t be a straight chat window."

This is what scares me the most and my first knee jerk reaction is "Why the F* not". That is all we are asking for is a straight up simple text chat. It has worked for EVERY OTHER MMO IN THE HISTORY OF MMOs. Why can't we just get the same? It's a text chat, so we can find groups and trade. It doesn't need to be unique or immersive. All it needs to be is purely functional and straight forward THAT'S IT.

I'm not going to go into a full blown rant because who knows what they have planned or they might indeed change their minds and realize "Hey you know what, this is stupid, how about we just give the fans what they're asking for"

CommanderROR

It seem to me that voice chat (in area chat) is pretty much dead anyway. During the first few days there was a lot of random noise going off via Voip, now I almost never hear anybody speak, even in the heart of Daggerfall.
I hope ZOS is taking note of this.

I'm also worried about their "not a chat windows" quote, because it sounds too much like "solving problems we didn't know we had" instead of going for the tried and tested approach...

In a way it's like MS with Windows 8. They wanted to force their modern UI on everybody and completely ignored the fact that it was not really functional when used on a traditional PC without Touchscreen. It cost them dearly...I hope ZOS won't let things go that far...!

murdoua

I cant believe there is a discussion about this....having mmo without chat is like having car without reverse. I played like 20mmos pn pc,now im playing eso coz i thought its the best fusion of alltime bethesdas elderscrolls+mmo..ihv ps4 and this game was meant be a reason why i finaly can use ot for something more then charging my phone(very slow). ..game is great but no chat in mmo...WTF .can some of devs actually play this game on ps and not get mad at all the noise from ppls voicechat and actually gather party for dungeon in less then hour?! Noway..
and existence of site like eso-lfg is the exact evidence of need for chat in game
dont riun this game...im

Sry for my english...not my native..as you can see

Sir-Brucey

Please let the consoles have a chat box, it is so needed for trading and finding groups

Kalifas

On Xbox One after interface update:

Me: Cortana type" Anyone want to duo some content" in global.
Cortana: That does not compute.
Me: Screw you Cortana.
Cortana: That wasn't nice.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=kTDLVnSgEm4

StrykerTheElite

look only reason people want text chat is to sell thats it, or to find party to group, But these get flooded by bot sales which is more annoying than anything else.

They don't need text chat for selling/buying or finding groups their is better ways to implement than adding text chat box.
Best way is on the group finder where shows room of all the people looking, like the guild roster, with options to join, invite or to mail.

For buying and selling should have want list at guild sellers, where you type item in it then potential sellers can look at list and sell that item instead.

Now for battles texting is not good, but they should add emotional text chat lines, where you type something and put it on assign to wheel or just to say it. Now this should also pop on the map, so you can see distance from what people saying. Should have filter, friends, guild, world.

Now if they did add chat box it should be connected to the map area instead of the game it self.

Varicite

StrykerTheElite wrote: »

look only reason people want text chat is to sell thats it, or to find party to group, But these get flooded by bot sales which is more annoying than anything else.

Exactly what are you basing this on, because this hasn't been the case for well over a year now for the PC version. We want it for guild recruitment as well, btw, and just for general communication for those who are unwilling / unable to use VOIP.

StrykerTheElite wrote: »

They don't need text chat for selling/buying or finding groups their is better ways to implement than adding text chat box.
Best way is on the group finder where shows room of all the people looking, like the guild roster, with options to join, invite or to mail.

For buying and selling should have want list at guild sellers, where you type item in it then potential sellers can look at list and sell that item instead.

Now for battles texting is not good, but they should add emotional text chat lines, where you type something and put it on assign to wheel or just to say it. Now this should also pop on the map, so you can see distance from what people saying. Should have filter, friends, guild, world.

Now if they did add chat box it should be connected to the map area instead of the game it self.

I honestly disagree w/ this being the "best" method, but I applaud you for trying to come up w/ something that will help to rectify the current problems w/ utilizing the in-game systems smoothly. : )

birdythemighty

I agree with most of the text chat wanting folks, I would love to be able to find someone help me kill a baddie out in the world if I'm by my lonesome.

I often remove myself from voice chats because of the random noises. I've run into a couple instances of very inappropriate groaning. I don't want to hear that stuff when I'm adventuring.. it'd be much better to chat with folks with the tried and true chat functions of old.

slipHAZARD

StrykerTheElite wrote: »

look only reason people want text chat is to sell thats it, or to find party to group, But these get flooded by bot sales which is more annoying than anything else.

They don't need text chat for selling/buying or finding groups their is better ways to implement than adding text chat box.
Best way is on the group finder where shows room of all the people looking, like the guild roster, with options to join, invite or to mail.

For buying and selling should have want list at guild sellers, where you type item in it then potential sellers can look at list and sell that item instead.

Now for battles texting is not good, but they should add emotional text chat lines, where you type something and put it on assign to wheel or just to say it. Now this should also pop on the map, so you can see distance from what people saying. Should have filter, friends, guild, world.

Now if they did add chat box it should be connected to the map area instead of the game it self.

Not a single one of those options seem better then having a simple text chat window that is standard in EVERY OTHER MMO. It honestly baffles me that people can't seem to grasp the concept of needing text chat and the fact it's quite essential to have in your MMO. The simple fact is, no matter what points you want to argue, no matter how many different ways you can come up with how text chat isn't viable, the simple fact is there's a reason why it's in EVERY MMO including Elder Scrolls Online PC.

Take 2 seconds to think about what would happen if they decided to implement this on the PC version. Removing all forms of Text Chat. And you know what's crazy is they would NEVER EVER NEVER EVER NEVER do that, not in a million years for any BS reason you could come up with.

You need Text Chat in an MMO for the community to continue to grow and thrive. To create increased interaction among your players. That interaction creates guilds, creates friendships, creates stronger more devoted fans. Which in turn means more money for ZoS, the longer we play the more we will be willing to spend, whether its DLC, Mounts, Crowns, Pets or whatever.

There's no lee way here, there's no "fix" that isn't adding simple Text Chat. And for anyone who says it gets annoying then turn it off and you're done, no need to deal with it. This isn't a complicated issue and this doesn't need to be widely discussed. It's a basic feature that NEEDS to be implemented.

Ayraneice

I personally don't think much of text chat on a console, to be honest, I don't even think it will be used a massive amount. Frankly, most gamers don't have a keyboard that they can connect to a console and even of they did they probably wouldn't. And if you make it so that you use the onscreen keyboard, well I can't speak for the Playstation on screen keyboard but the Xbox one is pretty poor. I get that text chat is a vital part of a MMO on the PC, but on consoles it would likely become a underused service.

Frankly though, console players tend not to communicate well with oher players. I've played plenty of games where communication is key and nobody uses mics for voice chat, even though they have them. This won't change. When I'm playing ESO, the number of people actually speaking online is pretty low compared to the local population of players. Text chat may potentially improve this, but I doubt it would improve it drastically enough, to make it worthwhile.

Also, again I may be wrong, but consoles don't have the hardware that most PC gamers have and text chat may be too much for the consoles to manage effectively which could be a reason for its exclusion. I could be wrong, but I'd wager it's a factor.

Bottom line is, I'm sure ZOS have their reasons for not putting text chat in the console versions, one of them is probably to do with how often it'll be used, another being potentially technical reasons.

Varicite

Ayraneice wrote: »

I personally don't think much of text chat on a console, to be honest, I don't even think it will be used a massive amount. Frankly, most gamers don't have a keyboard that they can connect to a console and even of they did they probably wouldn't. And if you make it so that you use the onscreen keyboard, well I can't speak for the Playstation on screen keyboard but the Xbox one is pretty poor. I get that text chat is a vital part of a MMO on the PC, but on consoles it would likely become a underused service.

Frankly though, console players tend not to communicate well with oher players. I've played plenty of games where communication is key and nobody uses mics for voice chat, even though they have them. This won't change. When I'm playing ESO, the number of people actually speaking online is pretty low compared to the local population of players. Text chat may potentially improve this, but I doubt it would improve it drastically enough, to make it worthwhile.

Also, again I may be wrong, but consoles don't have the hardware that most PC gamers have and text chat may be too much for the consoles to manage effectively which could be a reason for its exclusion. I could be wrong, but I'd wager it's a factor.

Bottom line is, I'm sure ZOS have their reasons for not putting text chat in the console versions, one of them is probably to do with how often it'll be used, another being potentially technical reasons.

FFXIV exists. And its continued popularity refutes almost the entirety of what you and others have written about this subject.

Works out just fine for them for some reason, but in ESO console players are somehow too dim-witted to use a keyboard if they want to?

I don't buy that.

slipHAZARD

Ayraneice wrote: »

I personally don't think much of text chat on a console, to be honest, I don't even think it will be used a massive amount. Frankly, most gamers don't have a keyboard that they can connect to a console and even of they did they probably wouldn't. And if you make it so that you use the onscreen keyboard, well I can't speak for the Playstation on screen keyboard but the Xbox one is pretty poor. I get that text chat is a vital part of a MMO on the PC, but on consoles it would likely become a underused service.

Frankly though, console players tend not to communicate well with oher players. I've played plenty of games where communication is key and nobody uses mics for voice chat, even though they have them. This won't change. When I'm playing ESO, the number of people actually speaking online is pretty low compared to the local population of players. Text chat may potentially improve this, but I doubt it would improve it drastically enough, to make it worthwhile.

Also, again I may be wrong, but consoles don't have the hardware that most PC gamers have and text chat may be too much for the consoles to manage effectively which could be a reason for its exclusion. I could be wrong, but I'd wager it's a factor.

Bottom line is, I'm sure ZOS have their reasons for not putting text chat in the console versions, one of them is probably to do with how often it'll be used, another being potentially technical reasons.

I love your wide generalizations.

"most gamers don't have a keyboard that they can connect to a console and even of they did they probably wouldn't."
Actually, most USB Keyboards will connect to your console, wireless or wired. And if they can, let's give them a reason to do so

"use the onscreen keyboard"
To go off on a wide generalization like yours, most console gamers are use to using on screen keyboards, we've been using it for years to type messages to eachother in game already.

" but on consoles it would likely become a underused service."
It would be used the same amount as used on PC. And even if it is "underused" like you said it is still a vital part of a MMO. Because some won't use it certainly shouldn't mean NO ONE can use it.

" I've played plenty of games where communication is key and nobody uses mics for voice chat, even though they have them. This won't change."
I've played plenty of games where communication is key and loads of people used mics. Infact I would say more often then not, it depends on the game. And personal experiences vary immensely.

"When I'm playing ESO, the number of people actually speaking online is pretty low compared to the local population of players."
A good reason could be that a lot of people turn off their voice chat because the proximity chat that's currently implemented is god awful.

"Text chat may potentially improve this, but I doubt it would improve it drastically enough, to make it worthwhile."
It doesn't need to drastically improve gameplay (which I honestly believe it would), but any improvement is an improvement simple as that. You're making the game better either way.

"Also, again I may be wrong, but consoles don't have the hardware that most PC gamers have and text chat may be too much for the consoles to manage effectively which could be a reason for its exclusion. I could be wrong, but I'd wager it's a factor."
I know you're trying to be civil but this is just laughable that anyone would even consider this. Consoles not having the hardware or powerful enough to have a simple text chat window? I think if DCUO could handle it on PS3 and Final Fantasy XI could handle it back on PS2 then ESO shouldn't be a problem

"Bottom line is, I'm sure ZOS have their reasons for not putting text chat in the console versions, one of them is probably to do with how often it'll be used, another being potentially technical reasons."
I'm not going to bash ZoS as I feel they have made a fundamentally fun and enjoyable game. But I suspect that are more viable reasons why they didn't put text chat in the console version but then that would just lead to name calling and speculation