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How does this guy manage to kick so much butt while playing such a buggy class? Seriously, just wondering.
timidobserver wrote: »http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/166406/hellseesyou-pvp-magicka-templar-gameplay/p1
How does this guy manage to kick so much butt while playing such a buggy class? Seriously, just wondering.
Yup a guy being successful in a few pvp videos means that the class has no bugs.
I'm sure you could gain the playing skill to compensate and know to stay completely away from most if not all of the bugged skills. Of course, with another class by that time, you would be an absolute beast.timidobserver wrote: »http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/166406/hellseesyou-pvp-magicka-templar-gameplay/p1
How does this guy manage to kick so much butt while playing such a buggy class? Seriously, just wondering.
Yup a guy being successful in a few pvp videos means that the class has no bugs.
Well, every class and skill has bugs that get you from time to time. I can't tell you how many times I've gone for a critical rush only to watch my toon run in place with her sword held over her head going no where, or how many times I've gone for a dragon leap only to see wings spread, she crouches down and goes no where, does nothing. I always die when that happens.
I saw another DK in Pve dungeons kicking butt like I have never done, and I asked him about his build. When I see someone else being successful where I can't, I try to find out how I can do it. If it can be done, it can be done. If someone else can do it, I can do it too. That's my philosophy.
timidobserver wrote: »http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/166406/hellseesyou-pvp-magicka-templar-gameplay/p1
How does this guy manage to kick so much butt while playing such a buggy class? Seriously, just wondering.
Yup a guy being successful in a few pvp videos means that the class has no bugs.
Well, every class and skill has bugs that get you from time to time. I can't tell you how many times I've gone for a critical rush only to watch my toon run in place with her sword held over her head going no where, or how many times I've gone for a dragon leap only to see wings spread, she crouches down and goes no where, does nothing. I always die when that happens.
I saw another DK in Pve dungeons kicking butt like I have never done, and I asked him about his build. When I see someone else being successful where I can't, I try to find out how I can do it. If it can be done, it can be done. If someone else can do it, I can do it too. That's my philosophy.
timidobserver wrote: »timidobserver wrote: »http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/166406/hellseesyou-pvp-magicka-templar-gameplay/p1
How does this guy manage to kick so much butt while playing such a buggy class? Seriously, just wondering.
Yup a guy being successful in a few pvp videos means that the class has no bugs.
Well, every class and skill has bugs that get you from time to time. I can't tell you how many times I've gone for a critical rush only to watch my toon run in place with her sword held over her head going no where, or how many times I've gone for a dragon leap only to see wings spread, she crouches down and goes no where, does nothing. I always die when that happens.
I saw another DK in Pve dungeons kicking butt like I have never done, and I asked him about his build. When I see someone else being successful where I can't, I try to find out how I can do it. If it can be done, it can be done. If someone else can do it, I can do it too. That's my philosophy.
This thread is mostly about highlighting long standing Templar bugs and underperforming abilities in one place, like the focused charge global cooldown, which is significantly worse than the occasional animation bug that critcal rush gets. It isn't about saying that Templar are incapable of being successful.....
Judging by your presence in just about every single Templar thread on the front page, I am assuming that you are the latest DK that has decided to wage a forum war against Templar?
I saw another DK in Pve dungeons kicking butt like I have never done, and I asked him about his build. When I see someone else being successful where I can't, I try to find out how I can do it. If it can be done, it can be done. If someone else can do it, I can do it too. That's my philosophy.
I'm also looking forward to see any confirmation on these issues. They never happened to me before.SeptimusDova wrote: »Puncturing Strikes grants a CC immunity to every target it hits, regardless if they are hit by the knockback.
Templar instant casts with long animations can be interrupted.
Animal_Mother wrote: »I saw another DK in Pve dungeons kicking butt like I have never done, and I asked him about his build. When I see someone else being successful where I can't, I try to find out how I can do it. If it can be done, it can be done. If someone else can do it, I can do it too. That's my philosophy.
The vast majority of us posting in this topics <b>are</b> successful Templars, despite being gimped by our class abilities. I know I don't slot but two or three Templar abilities due most of them being overshadowed by better, more reliable, weapon, guild or alliance war alternatives. We are looking into improving our class abilities and making them viable for daily use.
You mentioned Stampede in your post. That skill used to be as bugged as Toppling Charge is now. It was fixed in August? of last year. Why is it taking an additional 10 months for ZOS to fix our charge, our gap closer? TC even offers additional utility than Stampede with its stun and interrupt; it would be more desirable to use if it was working correctly.
The sad thing is, for every one of our skills, there is a better alternative that is no where near as buggy. Which raises the point - why be a Templar at all?
Animal_Mother wrote: »I saw another DK in Pve dungeons kicking butt like I have never done, and I asked him about his build. When I see someone else being successful where I can't, I try to find out how I can do it. If it can be done, it can be done. If someone else can do it, I can do it too. That's my philosophy.
The vast majority of us posting in this topics <b>are</b> successful Templars, despite being gimped by our class abilities. I know I don't slot but two or three Templar abilities due most of them being overshadowed by better, more reliable, weapon, guild or alliance war alternatives. We are looking into improving our class abilities and making them viable for daily use.
You mentioned Stampede in your post. That skill used to be as bugged as Toppling Charge is now. It was fixed in August? of last year. Why is it taking an additional 10 months for ZOS to fix our charge, our gap closer? TC even offers additional utility than Stampede with its stun and interrupt; it would be more desirable to use if it was working correctly.
The sad thing is, for every one of our skills, there is a better alternative that is no where near as buggy. Which raises the point - why be a Templar at all?
Yeah, to be honest, I use more weapon abilities than DK abilities in PvP. The only one's I use are Greed Dragon Blood and Reflective Scales. Other than the ultimates.
But, look, I'm not going to post on this thread due to the animosity I've stirred up. If you want to message me, that's fine. I've ticked off way too many people on this thread.
You have to stop thinking that you're in charge and start thinking that you're having a dance. We used to think we're smart [...] but nobody is smarter than the internet. [...] One of the things we learned pretty early on is 'Don't ever, ever try to lie to the internet - because they will catch you. They will de-construct your spin. They will remember everything you ever say for eternity.'
You can see really old school companies really struggle with that. They think they can still be in control of the message. [...] So yeah, the internet (in aggregate) is scary smart. The sooner people accept that and start to trust that that's the case, the better they're gonna be in interacting with them.
Also do remember not to shoot the Messenger. Gina and the others who have been answering us are in a very difficult position and whilst we might get really frustrated with what they are saying there is very little point in shooting them... much as we might like to!Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »There is no one in this thread that really believes these bugs were intended features all the time. Let me leave you all with a quote from Gabe Newell in an interview that was posted on Reddit. Thanks to @Vynist for reminding me of this.You have to stop thinking that you're in charge and start thinking that you're having a dance. We used to think we're smart [...] but nobody is smarter than the internet. [...] One of the things we learned pretty early on is 'Don't ever, ever try to lie to the internet - because they will catch you. They will de-construct your spin. They will remember everything you ever say for eternity.'
You can see really old school companies really struggle with that. They think they can still be in control of the message. [...] So yeah, the internet (in aggregate) is scary smart. The sooner people accept that and start to trust that that's the case, the better they're gonna be in interacting with them.
Time to come clean with what really happened ZOS and engage your Templar community.
SeptimusDova wrote: »
My preliminary bug testing today has had some interesting results. I will post on here in more detail tomorrow after I have a second look. But this is what I am comfortable with putting out.
I have the videos set to private right now on my hitbox account until I can make a more refined product.
I respeced a VR5 mule and armed it with all of the bugged items I am slowly going through each and every one and recording all of the issues.
Here is something I found that is disturbing and it makes me think that ZOS is indeed lying to us concerning toppling charge and a few other things.
First off Toppling charge when used puts a CC on the target this was confirmed by using wrecking blow right after and WB did not knock the target back.
I did this for about an hour then respeced to Explosive charge. Guess what? no CC?. I singled out a target hit it with Explosive charge. Followed by wrecking blow. WB knocked the target back far enough to where I could fire off EC again followed by another WB. followed by another EC. The second WB puts a CC on the target.
So EC-WB-EC-WB-EC- Finisher of your choice.
Now the part where it gets interesting is using the slow speed of the Sun Fire Family to your advantage.
using either VB or RL followed by EC then BJ or PS gives you a very fast kill. By the time that VB or RL hits the target you are launching with EC they both hit the target at the same time. PS seems to finish it off. At no time did EC give a CC .
I an trying to find a way to word the results of biting jabs and puncturing sweep.
If fired between two targets in close proximity they both get the CC off of the first cast. Any subsequent casts in a mob will also give them a CC. SO ZOS needs to address that. If the targets are spread far enough apart then only one gets the cc. But a close packed mob where the hitboxes/killboxes are close to each other then yeah its a mass cc.
currently having an issue posting a screeshot forgive the multiple edits
Just here again for my daily post to keep this thread up.
Make repentance scale off stamina
Make repentance scale off stamina
Make repentance scale off stamina
Make repentance scale off stamina
Make repentance scale off stamina
Make repentance scale off stamina
Make repentance scale off stamina
I am still blown away someone thought. "Let's make a skill that returns stamina off of dead bodies, and make it scale off magicka."
timidobserver wrote: »http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/166406/hellseesyou-pvp-magicka-templar-gameplay/p1
How does this guy manage to kick so much butt while playing such a buggy class? Seriously, just wondering.
Yup a guy being successful in a few pvp videos means that the class has no bugs.
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We're closing this thread due to inflammatory behavior. We welcome constructive discussion of the game, whether positive or negative, but as stated in our Code of Conduct we do not allow threads intended solely to flame.
As explained here, the GCD on Focused Charge is included in the game mechanics.
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Just here again for my daily post to keep this thread up.
Make repentance scale off stamina
Make repentance scale off stamina
Make repentance scale off stamina
Make repentance scale off stamina
Make repentance scale off stamina
Make repentance scale off stamina
Make repentance scale off stamina
I am still blown away someone thought. "Let's make a skill that returns stamina off of dead bodies, and make it scale off magicka."