olemanwinter wrote: »YES AD. PUSH. PUSH GUYS.
I mean, there are maybe 15 DC online total.
So, when we hold you at Glade for like half and hour...make sure you exploit by getting inside the inner before it breaches. Do that.
And then make sure you burst Warden at the same time as Rayles.
All good stuff. After all, when you've got 75 people attacking Rayles, it's not enough, you need to send half of the 15 DC to warden so you can outnumber DC 10 to 1 at Rayles.
Anyway, back to the fight.
See you guys inside Rayles inner in about 5 min.....about 5 min before it breaches.
EDIT: Well nope. I got killed in the courtyard. there are literally less than 5 people here defending. Everyone else went to Warden (easier to defend).
So I died solo in the courtyard by at least 20 people. Recap last 6 hits 6 different people. But 3 people thought they did so amazing they had to come over and do some bagging on my face.
Yeah, EPIC capture guys. Sure hope you recorded it for youtube.
WAIT I KNOW. Maybe Zos can use the footage for commercials for the consoles.
NPK Daniel wrote: »The two big DC guilds stay apart so we don't have these issues. Maybe the AD leaders should task a similar, responsible path.
I guess winning with the lag is fun for AD. There is no honor in winning a campaign like this.
DC won the last two cycles fighting with mostly lower pops. Get on our level.
The funny thing with all these posts is that there are only two AD groups that run 20-24 man groups on AS along with some smaller guilds. No one communicates at all except to give status updates really if keeps are under attack or we're attacking. Probably 5 times a night we'll be sieging a keep and call out inc on breach only to find it is more AD we didn't know were coming. As for yesterday... the only communication was on how to lose emp, since we don't trust DC to hold Aleswell we needed them to take Ash as well to prevent EP from quickly capping.
Well I am sure many people are going to dispute this, but tonight really wasn't any fun for AD (or atleast us) either. This is the most bored I have seen Deci in a long time, and we would have left much earlier if it wasn't for me being crowned without being on.
I had emp and I enjoyed getting to wreck with it, but the most fun was probably getting killed myself by the EP groups when we all went solo.
However to clarify, EP was zerging as well and 15 hours ago we were pushed to our gates. The revenge is pretty nice, but I also know I would probably get along with most these guys if we ever met. Deci has no interest in killing the campaign, and except to see us helping AD on other campaigns.

NPK Daniel wrote: »It really was fun while it lasted.
Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »While, admittedly, yesterday was one of the most lucrative days I've had in ESO (in regards to AP gain) in a very long time, it was also deeply boring and more than a little frustrating at times.
Seeing TKO running as a 2 raid group stacked group, Misfitz running about the same numbers, and then having Decibel on top of it meant there was a lot of zerging going on last night. Without DC on the server, it was solely concentrated on EP.
I remember one of the big complaints about Thornblade was that EP's guilds were always all stacked in one place, working/coordinating together. We split up and spread out just as our opponents wanted, not out of happenstance, but by choice to try to help keep the newly active campaigns a bit more balanced.
And this is the response by AD? While fighting, it felt like we'd finish wiping one team (which was no mean feat due to the numbers) just to get hit by a whole 'nother double raid group. And that wasn't just a 'feeling'. It happened over and over. At Alessia, at Arrius and Farragut. EP pop withered to 2 bars when AD got to the scroll temple the first time and were able to ring it in a circle.
I haven't seen zergs and activity like this since Bloodthorn (not a compliment, fyi).
Then AD turned cocky and tossed sportsmanship out the window. They tried to spawn camp with the scroll of Ghartok (and failed), then reconsidered and took the scroll outside the gate, then reconsidered again and brought the scroll BACK inside the gate, which ended with the scroll back at the temple and one of the longest, most murderous gate farms I've ever been a part of.
Thanks to Havoc for the help last night. Without them actively helping their faction and doing the right thing, the gate probably wouldn't have closed.
I finally logged when we finished repairing Farragut.
Lol that was not a fail, I was trying to die, thats why you didnt see any of my group near me when I went to your spawn. It was a very boring night indeed, but a friend was empty so I wasnt leaving.
Care to educate us as to why that event happened? Either of the times the scroll was brought back towards us.
I honestly have no idea since I went to bed shortly after I dropped it. You are most likely right tho, gate farming ep is something every ad loves. And if I remember correctly you guys had 3 bars at the moment, so I'm really sorry but I don't feel bad at all for what ad did.
Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »While, admittedly, yesterday was one of the most lucrative days I've had in ESO (in regards to AP gain) in a very long time, it was also deeply boring and more than a little frustrating at times.
Seeing TKO running as a 2 raid group stacked group, Misfitz running about the same numbers, and then having Decibel on top of it meant there was a lot of zerging going on last night. Without DC on the server, it was solely concentrated on EP.
I remember one of the big complaints about Thornblade was that EP's guilds were always all stacked in one place, working/coordinating together. We split up and spread out just as our opponents wanted, not out of happenstance, but by choice to try to help keep the newly active campaigns a bit more balanced.
And this is the response by AD? While fighting, it felt like we'd finish wiping one team (which was no mean feat due to the numbers) just to get hit by a whole 'nother double raid group. And that wasn't just a 'feeling'. It happened over and over. At Alessia, at Arrius and Farragut. EP pop withered to 2 bars when AD got to the scroll temple the first time and were able to ring it in a circle.
I haven't seen zergs and activity like this since Bloodthorn (not a compliment, fyi).
Then AD turned cocky and tossed sportsmanship out the window. They tried to spawn camp with the scroll of Ghartok (and failed), then reconsidered and took the scroll outside the gate, then reconsidered again and brought the scroll BACK inside the gate, which ended with the scroll back at the temple and one of the longest, most murderous gate farms I've ever been a part of.
Thanks to Havoc for the help last night. Without them actively helping their faction and doing the right thing, the gate probably wouldn't have closed.
I finally logged when we finished repairing Farragut.
Considering the first night of the campaign i received hate tells from havoc telling me to delete/uninstall my game and that Azura was about to be painted red...my sympathy meter for ep at this point is at zero. This is what happens when you become a cocky and arrogant bully. Another cocky and arrogant bully puts you in check. #ADrevenge
Perhaps you should be more selective with whom you tag a long with. Just sayin.
Perhaps you should find someone more appropriate to vent your displeasure at.
As a starting point, might I suggest one of the leaders or officer of Vehemence, or Nexus, or Havoc, for instance, since these players may actually have had something to do with making the decisions you disagree with.
This one did nothing, trust this one.
Oh dear
Haha I didn't mean to thrown Frozn or Zavus or Anon under the bus there
Juuust making the point that if you don't like a decision a guild made, going to the guild leadership, rather than people who happened to be in the group/online/in the same faction/whatever at the time, is the way to handle it.
Also, the RP,
Is Frozn leading again? I wasn't aware he led any of the groups you mentioned.
I am sure EP made fine points farming the AD that let them die to siege. I was telling people to go get kills on them actually so we would have had people to fight still.
As for that scroll Agrippa, we could have farmed that for as long as we would of liked honestly, but felt poorly about doing so and decided instead to give it back to red and just continue to fight in the gate. We have no interest in the scroll. If your AP was as good as ours I would be impressed. Finally broke 100k+/hr in that gate.
As for emma, you guys farmed PvE players with trebs in the respawn, then came to the forums saying how it was "planet havoc" and tons of other things. We were fighting multiple organized groups behind there, and still believe it to be poor sportsmanship. I also have video last night of you guys attempting to take chalman with your 15 or so and another raid of 24, only to get wiped by our 15. Much of yesterday the "Deciblob" was capped at 16 or 18, but then we got some tells saying how you were coming to dethrone with xyz soo decided to crank it up. Seemed to work.
Anyways, if anyone remembers the EP buff server azura's was going to be day 1, I am sure we would be having a different conversation. But as I said, we will be looking other places for fights now as well. Should be fun.
You can say anything you want, it's simply ironic seeing Deciblob members telling people to stop gatecamping, bash other guilds for doing it (which never really took place) and then that exact guild is doing it every night for the last couple of days. My guild took chalman, lost it for farra, took arrius and kings with the help of EP. Then we got pushed to our gates, again. One guildgroup of 10-15 can not win against 2-3 full organized farming raids. I don't whine about people zerging, sometimes i point out the obvious. Your own GM agreed and told me he is aware of his zerg even lol. The insulting comments is no surprise coming from you and speaks for itself and your maturity level. ^_^olemanwinter wrote: »Is this the Azura QQ thread? Okay cool.
So, I defending Ash against a ton of AD and we were doing a great defense. 2 counter siege for every siege out there. It took them probably 25 minutes to breach the outer. And when they rush in.....everyone lags and DCs. We come back to a lost cause.
So, whoever is to blame. Zos, EP on the other side of the map, the AD that we were fighting. Talos just hates DC (yeah I know Talos isn't around yet..whatevs)....you suck.
The AD currently on Azura are a league of revenge squads. They're doing what ep has done to TB and Chillrend. Dc is just caught in the middle. Ad will force everyone off Azura and it will be a perma yellow map.
Then ad and ep will come to these forums and QQ hard about how there is no competetive campaigns and they can't find anyone to play with.
People are going to mass quit pvp. And it will be OUR fault. It won't matter how ZOS has failed the servers and neglected the issues. Player behavior is the root of the problem.
Not every yellow wants to smash the competition in so that they leave the server. Don't lump us in with that loud idiot that posted that thread recently, he speaks only for himself.
I'd Agree with this twice if I could
OTOH, maybe we could all agree to try to keep competition alive by avoiding things like gate camping, pushing a faction's last keeps, painting the whole map one color, etc. ?
I believe I read earlier in this thread from DC people that they feel these tactics are acceptable for them to employ because it has been done to them, and because DC has had it very rough.
I understand that, but I also remember it is the exact same thing that EP said to AD when we complained about them doing it to us, and we all saw how that turned out.
It's a vicious circle, we've all been gate camped, every faction has at one time or another, on one server or another, been zerged down and crushed, and every faction has been guilty of it too. If we keep excusing these tactics by saying "Well, it's fair bc they've been doing it to us," then it will never stop.
Maybe you should actually log on and see what your own guild is/has been doing then take your own advice. What you say is true but you have no credibility when you have recently bashed Havoc saying ''which is why you have to farm level 45s at their gates, I suppose- you can't do stuff like that without losing a lot of respect from the community and other guilds... it just makes your whole guild seem egotistical and unpleasant.'' Keep saying the ''right'' things when it suits your agenda.I guess AD doesn't watch GoT?!What yesterday proved was GoT > ESO
You can say anything you want about Decibel, God knows we've farmed gates ( never for too long, the core members get bored real fast), but Winnie is the first person to leave group or push us not to take that last keep or scroll. And many times we have actually left the map without talking a single scroll cuz blue or red have low pop. What happened last night was another thing entirely, you guys had 3 bars and acording to Agrippa farmed the many AD there. Better be informed before you make stupid accusations, little dog! Also please have the decency to not whine about other people zerging, makes you look even more stupid.
Speaking of maturity, why do you always mock our guild name and misspell my name? I don't see eye to eye with you or your guild on everything, but I do give you the respect of getting your names right, hell, I even said that Havoc is talented, and I've defended you many times on the forums against "lagsploitation" accusations, because I don't think they're fair.
As for Decibel camping gates, I don't approve, tea pot is correct, I leave group if we even attack a faction's last keeps, drives WRX nuts, but it's just not my scene. But, these are my personal beliefs, I'm not the GM of Deci, I don't lead raids, and I can't make the whole group do what I want them to do. Aside from all that, I've been away for the past couple of weeks, and I hardly see how you can blame me for what happens when I'm not even there.Back on topic, I'm rly confused at the AD guild stack. it's wierd cuz Pact guilds are all spread out atm, but if it keeps up we will definitely see more of them converging to Azura.
If everyone would just stay put now and let it happen, we could have are rise of a new main server here! I'm just worried that the second opposition shows up in force, everyone's gonna scatter again and restack elsewhere. Cuz that seems to be the pattern.
Ve, nexus and havoc and lord knows who else all showing on Azura. So where is this "spread"? Who is left on Chill? Not arguing. I really am curious.
VE is homed Chillrend, that's where we spend our time mostly. We come to Azuras when action is low or on request, but we don't put time into points or controlling the map. As far as I know Nexus and Havoc don't spend their full time there either, much less the other EP guilds.
Don't get me wrong I'm all for it, we all want a new Thornblade to invest in and fight for. Just seems whenever we do that, all the competition leaves and restack a elsewhere
We leave because the server can't handle all of us being there, do you remember the lag on Thorn after 1.6 came out? We only played there maybe twice before we decided to rehome. It was bad, it was beyond bad, keep takes were like watching abnormally long powerpoint presentations. I was actually missing the FPS bug. And that wasn't even all of the main guilds, Misfitz, Alacrity, DiE, they were all on Chill already.
We all want that one big server with all the main guilds fighting each other again, but we can't get anywhere near that now without the lag becoming unplayable, and then people rage quit group, or stop playing, or just blame everyone else for it, it sucks.
Maybe if we could get it down to like, one main guild per faction on each campaign? That might be workable server-wise, but Idk how we'd actually get people to agree to do it.
If everyone knows the server can't handle it why is AD stacking the server with multiple raids. That's why people are going there, because there are so many AD.
I agree.
We need to spread out.
I don't know what all lead to the AD guild stack on Azuras, I'm in Morocco
Deciblob is just the norm on EP side. I haven't even written your name and i have no idea how my maturity level is based of me misspelling it lol. How you think i would know you are in Morocco and been gone for weeks, i have no clue. What i do know is that you are a Deci-Officer, talking about the negatives of gatecamping while your guild is actively doing it. You also talk about how your guild didn't play on Thornblade because of stacking of AD guilds and how it affected the server, yet deci is in Azura with 3-4 other AD guilds. Nothing more, nothing less. It speaks for itself.
I didn't expect you to know I was in Morocco, that's why I told you. I was explaining that not only was I not involved in any gate camping, I haven't been there for the past two weeks at all because I have been away, so whatever Decibel has done in that time, you'll need to take up with someone else.
And I did not say that we left Thorn because of AD guild stacking affecting the server, I said that even without the other AD guilds there, the server couldn't handle all the organized groups. Which is why all the guilds can't be on one server, not just the AD guilds.
You don't seem to understand and i'll repeat myself, only reason why i'm taking it up with you is because you say gatecamping is bad, stacking AD guilds in one server is bad, misquoted my guildies to put us in a bad light, you've insulted my guild in the past falsely claiming we camp lvl 45's at the gates of Thorn, and the guild you are officer in is actively doing it in Azura. Any guild can do whatever they please, but the moment i hear sheer hypocrisy is the moment i react. I'm not blaming you for what your guild is doing, just, adding up all these things makes you seem clueless, and not agree with alot of what your guild is currently doing.I am sure EP made fine points farming the AD that let them die to siege. I was telling people to go get kills on them actually so we would have had people to fight still.
As for that scroll Agrippa, we could have farmed that for as long as we would of liked honestly, but felt poorly about doing so and decided instead to give it back to red and just continue to fight in the gate. We have no interest in the scroll. If your AP was as good as ours I would be impressed. Finally broke 100k+/hr in that gate.
As for emma, you guys farmed PvE players with trebs in the respawn, then came to the forums saying how it was "planet havoc" and tons of other things. We were fighting multiple organized groups behind there, and still believe it to be poor sportsmanship. I also have video last night of you guys attempting to take chalman with your 15 or so and another raid of 24, only to get wiped by our 15. Much of yesterday the "Deciblob" was capped at 16 or 18, but then we got some tells saying how you were coming to dethrone with xyz soo decided to crank it up. Seemed to work.
Anyways, if anyone remembers the EP buff server azura's was going to be day 1, I am sure we would be having a different conversation. But as I said, we will be looking other places for fights now as well. Should be fun.
We took chalman only to keep AD pressure off Farragut to close our gates which obviously worked. I jokingly wrote Manoe that we would dethrone while GoT was running and then send book spoilers to your guild... LOLS. Didn't know you would take it seriously
Wait...are you the silly little girl who was sending me hate tells the other night calling me "trash" over and over on repeat?
WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »Let them have their jollies, and if you don't feel like it, take it from them. Easy as that.
olemanwinter wrote: »YES AD. PUSH. PUSH GUYS. I mean, there are maybe 15 DC online total.
So, when we hold you at Glade for like half and hour...make sure you exploit by getting inside the inner before it breaches. Do that. And then make sure you burst Warden at the same time as Rayles.
All good stuff. After all, when you've got 75 people attacking Rayles, it's not enough, you need to send half of the 15 DC to warden so you can outnumber DC 10 to 1 at Rayles.
Anyway, back to the fight. See you guys inside Rayles inner in about 5 min.....about 5 min before it breaches.
EDIT: Well nope. I got killed in the courtyard. there are literally less than 5 people here defending. Everyone else went to Warden (easier to defend).
So I died solo in the courtyard by at least 20 people. Recap last 6 hits 6 different people. But 3 people thought they did so amazing they had to come over and do some bagging on my face.
Yeah, EPIC capture guys. Sure hope you recorded it for youtube.
WAIT I KNOW. Maybe Zos can use the footage for commercials for the consoles.
WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »Well I sure am glad I'm sitting out of this cycle.
The thing is DC did their fair share of gate camping last cycle.
So did EP.
People forget quite easily during all that AD was mostly mum the entire cycle except for that one time they pushed the ring hard to get Lyric emp.
Let them have their jollies, and if you don't feel like it, take it from them. Easy as that.
WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »Well I sure am glad I'm sitting out of this cycle.
The thing is DC did their fair share of gate camping last cycle.
So did EP.
People forget quite easily during all that AD was mostly mum the entire cycle except for that one time they pushed the ring hard to get Lyric emp.
Let them have their jollies, and if you don't feel like it, take it from them. Easy as that.
There was only ONE gate camping session and it was in retaliation for what was done to us the start of the last cycle: we were pushed off the map and to our gates. Never at any other point in the campaign did dc have every ep keep. Never happened.


NukeAllTheThings wrote: »WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »Well I sure am glad I'm sitting out of this cycle.
The thing is DC did their fair share of gate camping last cycle.
So did EP.
People forget quite easily during all that AD was mostly mum the entire cycle except for that one time they pushed the ring hard to get Lyric emp.
Let them have their jollies, and if you don't feel like it, take it from them. Easy as that.
There was only ONE gate camping session and it was in retaliation for what was done to us the start of the last cycle: we were pushed off the map and to our gates. Never at any other point in the campaign did dc have every ep keep. Never happened.
week 3 of last cycle
week 4 of last cycle

NukeAllTheThings wrote: »WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »Well I sure am glad I'm sitting out of this cycle.
The thing is DC did their fair share of gate camping last cycle.
So did EP.
People forget quite easily during all that AD was mostly mum the entire cycle except for that one time they pushed the ring hard to get Lyric emp.
Let them have their jollies, and if you don't feel like it, take it from them. Easy as that.
There was only ONE gate camping session and it was in retaliation for what was done to us the start of the last cycle: we were pushed off the map and to our gates. Never at any other point in the campaign did dc have every ep keep. Never happened.
week 3 of last cycle
week 4 of last cycle
I spent the entire cycle in Azura and saw that ONCE. And I am on every night prime time. The map NEVER stayed like that prime time. You're deliberately showing one snap shot from one time and trying to make it seem like that server was dc dominated. It was TWO dc guilds! That's IT. And ep had the map totally red every single morning at 8am when I checked it. NPK would rally up and take a lot back. But rarely the entire map. Maybe for an hour or so midday. But it never stayed blue for long. Certainly not like we have now-24 hour yellow map. At the start of the last cycle I reached out to slaxis and Sypher and many of my ad congacts and asked some to come. None would. NPK WANTED to make it a competitive server. Why don't you show the score the first two weeks of the campaign? We were losing by 20k. Your snapshots prove NOTHING.
NukeAllTheThings wrote: »NukeAllTheThings wrote: »WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »Well I sure am glad I'm sitting out of this cycle.
The thing is DC did their fair share of gate camping last cycle.
So did EP.
People forget quite easily during all that AD was mostly mum the entire cycle except for that one time they pushed the ring hard to get Lyric emp.
Let them have their jollies, and if you don't feel like it, take it from them. Easy as that.
There was only ONE gate camping session and it was in retaliation for what was done to us the start of the last cycle: we were pushed off the map and to our gates. Never at any other point in the campaign did dc have every ep keep. Never happened.
week 3 of last cycle
week 4 of last cycle
I spent the entire cycle in Azura and saw that ONCE. And I am on every night prime time. The map NEVER stayed like that prime time. You're deliberately showing one snap shot from one time and trying to make it seem like that server was dc dominated. It was TWO dc guilds! That's IT. And ep had the map totally red every single morning at 8am when I checked it. NPK would rally up and take a lot back. But rarely the entire map. Maybe for an hour or so midday. But it never stayed blue for long. Certainly not like we have now-24 hour yellow map. At the start of the last cycle I reached out to slaxis and Sypher and many of my ad congacts and asked some to come. None would. NPK WANTED to make it a competitive server. Why don't you show the score the first two weeks of the campaign? We were losing by 20k. Your snapshots prove NOTHING.
They proved that you lied in your previous assertion that it only happened once. Your hypocrisy is very clear and it is funny to see you play the victim every day on these forums. When other factions paint the map they are despicable and killing the server, when your faction does it, it is fair play and strategic dominance I guess. Doesn't really matter since you no longer have the pop advantage and have decided that everyone is screwing you guys forcing you to leave.
Nothing surprising here. DC (MBF + Shortbus) who just keep running away from the competition as they have been doing since Thornblade. They first left Thornblade to Chillrend, and then to Azura Star, and now back to Chillrend again. What's next ?
EskimoBrother wrote: »Nothing surprising here. DC (MBF + Shortbus) who just keep running away from the competition as they have been doing since Thornblade. They first left Thornblade to Chillrend, and then to Azura Star, and now back to Chillrend again. What's next ?
What a load of BS.
We were the last DC guilds to leave thorn after AD deserted it and Dc followed. Sorry we didn't feel like fighting your entire faction + emp with our 8 man. Somehow that's competition to you though. We stuck with thornblade from the beginning till 1.6, which only made the lag worse. Instead of trying to play through lag and getting frustrated, we simply pick servers where our abilities actually work when we play. Call it running away or whatever makes you feel better, but you know you'll never be able to wipe us with even numbers froznso keep living your fantasy where we're "running away from you" because you're too good.
MBF was never homed on chillrend after the thorn departure, it was too zergy on the DC side. We're still homed on azuras atm, just haven't had many groups lately because a lot of us are burnt out. i think you got your info all mixed up.EskimoBrother wrote: »Nothing surprising here. DC (MBF + Shortbus) who just keep running away from the competition as they have been doing since Thornblade. They first left Thornblade to Chillrend, and then to Azura Star, and now back to Chillrend again. What's next ?
What a load of BS.
We were the last DC guilds to leave thorn after AD deserted it and Dc followed. Sorry we didn't feel like fighting your entire faction + emp with our 8 man. Somehow that's competition to you though. We stuck with thornblade from the beginning till 1.6, which only made the lag worse. Instead of trying to play through lag and getting frustrated, we simply pick servers where our abilities actually work when we play. Call it running away or whatever makes you feel better, but you know you'll never be able to wipe us with even numbers froznso keep living your fantasy where we're "running away from you" because you're too good.
I totally understand the first move from Thornblade, but it doesn't justify your departure from Chillrend the day AD guilds and EP guilds moved there, and the same when they moved to Azura. I was actually hoping that we could have some fair fights with equal numbers everytime we followed you around but nope, gotta keep chasing you looks like.
P.S. I never said you were running away from me personally, but from the competition. I'm tired of people who blame the lag for leaving. DC desperately needed help on Azura Star from day 1 of this new campaign. There were no reasons to abandon it.
Indeed, we had 3bars of EP against max pop AD. Doesn't look that bad at all! Let see here.. Nexus was online with 16players, Havoc was on with 8players and WCFC was on with a 20men (unorganized group), sorry Krotha. AD had TKO with a double raid and a half, Decibel+emp with a full raid and Misfitz with a full raid. Fair enough.
This was from prime time 4/25. This is more often than not what the map looked like. When it appeared in the 3rd week we were going to win, ep and ad didn't do much. I can't control that.
NPK Daniel wrote: »The two big DC guilds stay apart so we don't have these issues. Maybe the AD leaders should task a similar, responsible path.
I guess winning with the lag is fun for AD. There is no honor in winning a campaign like this.
DC won the last two cycles fighting with mostly lower pops. Get on our level.
The funny thing with all these posts is that there are only two AD groups that run 20-24 man groups on AS along with some smaller guilds. No one communicates at all except to give status updates really if keeps are under attack or we're attacking. Probably 5 times a night we'll be sieging a keep and call out inc on breach only to find it is more AD we didn't know were coming. As for yesterday... the only communication was on how to lose emp, since we don't trust DC to hold Aleswell we needed them to take Ash as well to prevent EP from quickly capping.
I wont blame you because it is obviously harder to see who is running in your own faction but trust me, since the beginning of this campaign, it hasnt been ONLY two AD guilds running. Sunday evening was TKO running two full raid groups and a half (confirmed by AD contacts), Misfitz running a full raid (also confirmed by one of their officers) and Decibel running a full raid (also confirmed by one of their officer). Add to this a full raid of AD pugs and it makes easily 80players.
Now, as Crown explained in this thread and to me privately several times already, it looks like there is absolutely no coordination between any AD guild right now. The reason why sunday evening, all 3 guilds + one raid of pugs all merged into each other and assaulted every single EP keep one by one with a massive 80men pain train zerg ball causing just lag, devastation and flag aoe spamming. AD guild leadership need to throw away their hatred against each other, sit like adults and pick different campaigns to unstack like EP did when they spread away from Thornblade.
EskimoBrother wrote: »Nothing surprising here. DC (MBF + Shortbus) who just keep running away from the competition as they have been doing since Thornblade. They first left Thornblade to Chillrend, and then to Azura Star, and now back to Chillrend again. What's next ?
What a load of BS.
We were the last DC guilds to leave thorn after AD deserted it and Dc followed. Sorry we didn't feel like fighting your entire faction + emp with our 8 man. Somehow that's competition to you though. We stuck with thornblade from the beginning till 1.6, which only made the lag worse. Instead of trying to play through lag and getting frustrated, we simply pick servers where our abilities actually work when we play. Call it running away or whatever makes you feel better, but you know you'll never be able to wipe us with even numbers froznso keep living your fantasy where we're "running away from you" because you're too good.
I totally understand the first move from Thornblade, but it doesn't justify your departure from Chillrend the day AD guilds and EP guilds moved there, and the same when they moved to Azura. I was actually hoping that we could have some fair fights with equal numbers everytime we followed you around but nope, gotta keep chasing you looks like.
P.S. I never said you were running away from me personally, but from the competition. I'm tired of people who blame the lag for leaving. DC desperately needed help on Azura Star from day 1 of this new campaign. There were no reasons to abandon it.