Azura Star

Takllin

NPK Daniel wrote: »

Meah, we did good work yesterday when it was 2bars-DC vs 3bars-AD. Then AD went pop-lock...

Unfortunately there are a lot of AD who are hell bent on beating everyone into submission on Azuras. Some of them feel this is justice for being pushed back to our gates last campaign, and others don't care because they thoroughly enjoy gate camping other factions, as if it gives them some feeling of accomplishment.

I've tried talking with them and explaining it isn't healthy for PvP, but they don't care. As long as they are winning this campaign, that is all that matters to them.

frozywozy

Takllin wrote: »

NPK Daniel wrote: »

Meah, we did good work yesterday when it was 2bars-DC vs 3bars-AD. Then AD went pop-lock...

Unfortunately there are a lot of AD who are hell bent on beating everyone into submission on Azuras. Some of them feel this is justice for being pushed back to our gates last campaign, and others don't care because they thoroughly enjoy gate camping other factions, as if it gives them some feeling of accomplishment.

I've tried talking with them and explaining it isn't healthy for PvP, but they don't care. As long as they are winning this campaign, that is all that matters to them.

hahaha this feels exactly like what EPs of Thornblade answered me.

Xendyn

frozywozy wrote: »

Takllin wrote: »

NPK Daniel wrote: »

Meah, we did good work yesterday when it was 2bars-DC vs 3bars-AD. Then AD went pop-lock...

Unfortunately there are a lot of AD who are hell bent on beating everyone into submission on Azuras. Some of them feel this is justice for being pushed back to our gates last campaign, and others don't care because they thoroughly enjoy gate camping other factions, as if it gives them some feeling of accomplishment.

I've tried talking with them and explaining it isn't healthy for PvP, but they don't care. As long as they are winning this campaign, that is all that matters to them.

hahaha this feels exactly like what EPs of Thornblade answered me.

Yeh that was a disappointing conversation. I just don't know what the answer is if people aren't willing to police themselves.
Only thing that's for sure is it's not just one side or the other.

Agrippa_Invisus

frozywozy wrote: »

Takllin wrote: »

NPK Daniel wrote: »

Meah, we did good work yesterday when it was 2bars-DC vs 3bars-AD. Then AD went pop-lock...

Unfortunately there are a lot of AD who are hell bent on beating everyone into submission on Azuras. Some of them feel this is justice for being pushed back to our gates last campaign, and others don't care because they thoroughly enjoy gate camping other factions, as if it gives them some feeling of accomplishment.

I've tried talking with them and explaining it isn't healthy for PvP, but they don't care. As long as they are winning this campaign, that is all that matters to them.

hahaha this feels exactly like what EPs of Thornblade answered me.

It's way beyond time for sliding population locks.

Takllin

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Takllin wrote: »

NPK Daniel wrote: »

Meah, we did good work yesterday when it was 2bars-DC vs 3bars-AD. Then AD went pop-lock...

Unfortunately there are a lot of AD who are hell bent on beating everyone into submission on Azuras. Some of them feel this is justice for being pushed back to our gates last campaign, and others don't care because they thoroughly enjoy gate camping other factions, as if it gives them some feeling of accomplishment.

I've tried talking with them and explaining it isn't healthy for PvP, but they don't care. As long as they are winning this campaign, that is all that matters to them.

hahaha this feels exactly like what EPs of Thornblade answered me.

It's way beyond time for sliding population locks.

Agreed. They should have a static lock at say 100 people per faction. After that is reached, you can only have up to 10% or whatever amount, more than the other factions. so if they have 100 or less, you can only have 110, etc.

Yeah I lost a lot of faith in the PvP community after that. Not that I had much to begin with, but, it's all but gone now. I mean it isn't even good AP farming at enemy gates...you give them a huge D tick for the very minimal amount of AP you get from diminishing returns...

Agrippa_Invisus

Takllin wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Takllin wrote: »

NPK Daniel wrote: »

Meah, we did good work yesterday when it was 2bars-DC vs 3bars-AD. Then AD went pop-lock...

Unfortunately there are a lot of AD who are hell bent on beating everyone into submission on Azuras. Some of them feel this is justice for being pushed back to our gates last campaign, and others don't care because they thoroughly enjoy gate camping other factions, as if it gives them some feeling of accomplishment.

I've tried talking with them and explaining it isn't healthy for PvP, but they don't care. As long as they are winning this campaign, that is all that matters to them.

hahaha this feels exactly like what EPs of Thornblade answered me.

It's way beyond time for sliding population locks.

Agreed.

Yeah I lost a lot of faith in the PvP community after that. Not that I had much to begin with, but, it's all but gone now. I mean it isn't even good AP farming at enemy gates...you give them a huge D tick for the very minimal amount of AP you get from diminishing returns...

Time and time and time and time and time again the PVP community of this game has shown that it is utterly incapable of policing itself. From the days of Auriel's Bow to Thornblade to Azura's Star it's been the same story.

Whether it's Pugs or Guilds themselves doing it, it's time for ZoS to take over and actively administrate this game instead of remaining so silently passive.

Takllin

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Takllin wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Takllin wrote: »

NPK Daniel wrote: »

Meah, we did good work yesterday when it was 2bars-DC vs 3bars-AD. Then AD went pop-lock...

Unfortunately there are a lot of AD who are hell bent on beating everyone into submission on Azuras. Some of them feel this is justice for being pushed back to our gates last campaign, and others don't care because they thoroughly enjoy gate camping other factions, as if it gives them some feeling of accomplishment.

I've tried talking with them and explaining it isn't healthy for PvP, but they don't care. As long as they are winning this campaign, that is all that matters to them.

hahaha this feels exactly like what EPs of Thornblade answered me.

It's way beyond time for sliding population locks.

Agreed.

Yeah I lost a lot of faith in the PvP community after that. Not that I had much to begin with, but, it's all but gone now. I mean it isn't even good AP farming at enemy gates...you give them a huge D tick for the very minimal amount of AP you get from diminishing returns...

Time and time and time and time and time again the PVP community of this game has shown that it is utterly incapable of policing itself. From the days of Auriel's Bow to Thornblade to Azura's Star it's been the same story.

Whether it's Pugs or Guilds themselves doing it, it's time for ZoS to take over and actively administrate this game instead of remaining so silently passive.

Oh I agree, people make it wayyyy too personal. It is as if someone trashed their family name, and it is now their life's goal to make sure that they do that and more to the opposing factions.

Though I don't have much faith in ZOS considering how much of a blind eye the game has been given with the upcoming console release. I'm somewhat hoping that they have some proposed changes in store for the console release that they will push out to us as well, but that is a pipe dream.

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Domander

Hey, fighting at the gate can actually be a lot of fun for the defenders, good D ticks too. Camping the spawn is not fun.

olemanwinter

I would now like to make a diplomatic post directed an nobody individually to casually comment that gate camping is perhaps the lowest form of pvp in my personal opinion and for anyone engaged in such actions to complain about the people being camped getting too much AP while they get too little AP is a little ridiculous in my personal opinion.

Gee, I hope that fits within the code of conduct. Guess I will see.

Winnamine

Just logged on and saw Azura's...it's noon and that campaign is 100% yellow.
Nice PVDoor guys
I was thinking maybe we could try NOT to beat this campaign into the ground...
FFS

Manoekin

need some FFA pvp options

FENGRUSH

Winnamine wrote: »

Just logged on and saw Azura's...it's noon and that campaign is 100% yellow.
Nice PVDoor guys
I was thinking maybe we could try NOT to beat this campaign into the ground...
FFS

Well, we had a few keeps before FENGRUSH retired last evening at 3AM. The AD left on that server cant help themselves fighting defenseless targets. That is likely why they crumble in mass to a handful of players.

What guild group is that Sarenvog and frogblast in? Dont understand why there is a full raid group to fight 1 bar DC last evening. Surely they cant believe theyre actually making decent AP?

Takllin

Manoekin wrote: »

need some FFA pvp options

Imperial v Inferior Races

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Winnamine wrote: »

Just logged on and saw Azura's...it's noon and that campaign is 100% yellow.
Nice PVDoor guys
I was thinking maybe we could try NOT to beat this campaign into the ground...
FFS

Well, we had a few keeps before FENGRUSH retired last evening at 3AM. The AD left on that server cant help themselves fighting defenseless targets. That is likely why they crumble in mass to a handful of players.

What guild group is that Sarenvog and frogblast in? Dont understand why there is a full raid group to fight 1 bar DC last evening. Surely they cant believe theyre actually making decent AP?

Frogblast is TKO, Sarenvog was in TKO, not sure if he still is though.

Rylana

Takllin wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

need some FFA pvp options

Imperial v Inferior Races

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Winnamine wrote: »

Just logged on and saw Azura's...it's noon and that campaign is 100% yellow.
Nice PVDoor guys
I was thinking maybe we could try NOT to beat this campaign into the ground...
FFS

Well, we had a few keeps before FENGRUSH retired last evening at 3AM. The AD left on that server cant help themselves fighting defenseless targets. That is likely why they crumble in mass to a handful of players.

What guild group is that Sarenvog and frogblast in? Dont understand why there is a full raid group to fight 1 bar DC last evening. Surely they cant believe theyre actually making decent AP?

Frogblast is TKO, Sarenvog was in TKO, not sure if he still is though.

Confirm, but Sarenvog is also in Misfitz, surprised you dont know that, its in your sig.

olemanwinter

We still had the same keeps when OLEMAN logged off at 8:00 AM. OLEMAN and his group held them at bay all night. OLEMAN.

Also, OLEMAN!

Draxys

olemanwinter wrote: »

We still had the same keeps when OLEMAN logged off at 8:00 AM. OLEMAN and his group held them at bay all night. OLEMAN.

Also, OLEMAN!

nope

The_Drexill

AD pushing the last blue keep in a few here... 40 of them, saw 2 other DC so far... A vr1 and a level 17. Thanks for the AP though, random AD that get kited.

Takllin

Rylana wrote: »

Takllin wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

need some FFA pvp options

Imperial v Inferior Races

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Winnamine wrote: »

Just logged on and saw Azura's...it's noon and that campaign is 100% yellow.
Nice PVDoor guys
I was thinking maybe we could try NOT to beat this campaign into the ground...
FFS

Well, we had a few keeps before FENGRUSH retired last evening at 3AM. The AD left on that server cant help themselves fighting defenseless targets. That is likely why they crumble in mass to a handful of players.

What guild group is that Sarenvog and frogblast in? Dont understand why there is a full raid group to fight 1 bar DC last evening. Surely they cant believe theyre actually making decent AP?

Frogblast is TKO, Sarenvog was in TKO, not sure if he still is though.

Confirm, but Sarenvog is also in Misfitz, surprised you dont know that, its in your sig.

Aye but Misiftz didn't have a guild group going at the time, everyone typically logs off by 11 PM, we got a bunch of grumpy old men here!

JDar

Misfitz dont play on azuras any more. Fengrush you ought to be careful recklessly looking for people to blame when you don't seem to know who is who.

olemanwinter

Draxys wrote: »

nope

lmao. okay. Logged off at about 8:00 am and we had 2 scrolls, Rayles, Warden, Glade, 2 resources at Ales, 3 resources at Ash.

olemanwinter

in before.
MY NAME IN CAPS!

Bouvin

...

FENGRUSH

WRX wrote: »

Flawlless wrote: »

I'm not super upset about recent events cause the AP has been flowing like wine, but blame DC for what's happening? lmao, that's a joke. It's AD who brings their entire faction everywhere they go. I thought the whole point of everyone leaving Thorn was to spread out so there wasn't as much lag but nope, truth is AD was running away to find a place where they could do the exact same thing. If you're at poplock fighting one or two bars of enemies, maybe it's time to switch servers, instead of chasing down anyone who so much as touches a resource. If Decibel doesn't leave Azuras I think I'll lose a lot of respect for them.

For the nth time, we are leaving haha

But if you dont mind we asking, where did DC go? Thats the only hope for a good campaign. I hear Haderus. I like Haderus. Its nice.

You have lied to The Lord. Your respect has been stripped to levels almost as low as Agrippa after he lag repaired the last emperor keep with a zerg and denied any involvement before having a screenshot posted to prove the opposite.

WRX

FENGRUSH wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

Flawlless wrote: »

I'm not super upset about recent events cause the AP has been flowing like wine, but blame DC for what's happening? lmao, that's a joke. It's AD who brings their entire faction everywhere they go. I thought the whole point of everyone leaving Thorn was to spread out so there wasn't as much lag but nope, truth is AD was running away to find a place where they could do the exact same thing. If you're at poplock fighting one or two bars of enemies, maybe it's time to switch servers, instead of chasing down anyone who so much as touches a resource. If Decibel doesn't leave Azuras I think I'll lose a lot of respect for them.

For the nth time, we are leaving haha

But if you dont mind we asking, where did DC go? Thats the only hope for a good campaign. I hear Haderus. I like Haderus. Its nice.

You have lied to The Lord. Your respect has been stripped to levels almost as low as Agrippa after he lag repaired the last emperor keep with a zerg and denied any involvement before having a screenshot posted to prove the opposite.

BUT LORD. I IMPLORE YOU TO RECONSIDER.

I am defending a friends emperorship, not mine. It is only righteous that I defend, and we were never higher than 14. Fights were good.

Zyle

WRX wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

Flawlless wrote: »

I'm not super upset about recent events cause the AP has been flowing like wine, but blame DC for what's happening? lmao, that's a joke. It's AD who brings their entire faction everywhere they go. I thought the whole point of everyone leaving Thorn was to spread out so there wasn't as much lag but nope, truth is AD was running away to find a place where they could do the exact same thing. If you're at poplock fighting one or two bars of enemies, maybe it's time to switch servers, instead of chasing down anyone who so much as touches a resource. If Decibel doesn't leave Azuras I think I'll lose a lot of respect for them.

For the nth time, we are leaving haha

But if you dont mind we asking, where did DC go? Thats the only hope for a good campaign. I hear Haderus. I like Haderus. Its nice.

You have lied to The Lord. Your respect has been stripped to levels almost as low as Agrippa after he lag repaired the last emperor keep with a zerg and denied any involvement before having a screenshot posted to prove the opposite.

BUT LORD. I IMPLORE YOU TO RECONSIDER.

I am defending a friends emperorship, not mine. It is only righteous that I defend, and we were never higher than 14. Fights were good.

Why do you choose to defend that type of emperorship rather than attempting to crown an emp on a server with equal numbers? Just seems like you're running from competition at this point.

WRX

bchulettub17_ESO wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

Flawlless wrote: »

I'm not super upset about recent events cause the AP has been flowing like wine, but blame DC for what's happening? lmao, that's a joke. It's AD who brings their entire faction everywhere they go. I thought the whole point of everyone leaving Thorn was to spread out so there wasn't as much lag but nope, truth is AD was running away to find a place where they could do the exact same thing. If you're at poplock fighting one or two bars of enemies, maybe it's time to switch servers, instead of chasing down anyone who so much as touches a resource. If Decibel doesn't leave Azuras I think I'll lose a lot of respect for them.

For the nth time, we are leaving haha

But if you dont mind we asking, where did DC go? Thats the only hope for a good campaign. I hear Haderus. I like Haderus. Its nice.

You have lied to The Lord. Your respect has been stripped to levels almost as low as Agrippa after he lag repaired the last emperor keep with a zerg and denied any involvement before having a screenshot posted to prove the opposite.

BUT LORD. I IMPLORE YOU TO RECONSIDER.

I am defending a friends emperorship, not mine. It is only righteous that I defend, and we were never higher than 14. Fights were good.

Why do you choose to defend that type of emperorship rather than attempting to crown an emp on a server with equal numbers? Just seems like you're running from competition at this point.

Oh you mean like when we took most the keeps on chillrend, but decided to come back and defend a guildie?

Maybe because hes a friend and a part of Deci. Or maybe because under normal circumstance we would go defend the last emp keep on any server because its amazing points.

FENGRUSH

Yea there was some fun fights, was fun all night all over the map. But to be clear, it was 2 bar vs 2 bar for about 20mins and the battles became pretty 1 sided for DC steamrolling.

Then AD groups swing in and play a numbers game again (as it is 95% of the time in azura). The emp group told FENGRUSH they 'were only 8 people' as well, and somehow they had no idea decibel was ever even there.

Even if DC crowned an emp, it would be flipped before noon tomorrow guaranteed. If AD doesnt take it overnight, Herpaderp runs with a solid 20man group to shamefully cruise through empty keeps every morning. So the whole 'defending an emperor' is a moot point - campaign is also already won for AD.


You guys say youre leaving, but then you just happen to show up to defend emperors with numbers advantage and an emp (mostly irrelevant in this case) but theyve got all the buffs going for you too. The fights were enjoyable, but dont pretend to be interested in giving a waning and underpopulated faction a fair shot at PvPing. Its a constant uphill battle on DC, but you went out of your way tonight to ensure that, and Lord FENGRUSH is disappointed in you.

WRX wrote: »

bchulettub17_ESO wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

Flawlless wrote: »

I'm not super upset about recent events cause the AP has been flowing like wine, but blame DC for what's happening? lmao, that's a joke. It's AD who brings their entire faction everywhere they go. I thought the whole point of everyone leaving Thorn was to spread out so there wasn't as much lag but nope, truth is AD was running away to find a place where they could do the exact same thing. If you're at poplock fighting one or two bars of enemies, maybe it's time to switch servers, instead of chasing down anyone who so much as touches a resource. If Decibel doesn't leave Azuras I think I'll lose a lot of respect for them.

For the nth time, we are leaving haha

But if you dont mind we asking, where did DC go? Thats the only hope for a good campaign. I hear Haderus. I like Haderus. Its nice.

You have lied to The Lord. Your respect has been stripped to levels almost as low as Agrippa after he lag repaired the last emperor keep with a zerg and denied any involvement before having a screenshot posted to prove the opposite.

BUT LORD. I IMPLORE YOU TO RECONSIDER.

I am defending a friends emperorship, not mine. It is only righteous that I defend, and we were never higher than 14. Fights were good.

Why do you choose to defend that type of emperorship rather than attempting to crown an emp on a server with equal numbers? Just seems like you're running from competition at this point.

Oh you mean like when we took most the keeps on chillrend, but decided to come back and defend a guildie?

At this point, pretty sure everyone is linked together by a series of guilds on the other factions. Ironically, the guildie you came to defend is in a different group that had no idea that your guild is even there. Apparently they were so used to sieging empty DC keeps that they didnt realize all of the DC left on the server were stuck fighting decibel and others down south.


But FENGRUSH would not say decibel is running from competition at all. It makes sense for them to come and hop in on defense for AP. But to say youve left the server (unless the server becomes contested) is a load. Theres no other times for you to be there, unless you want to capture keeps with a 20 man group against 2-3 DC with an emperor. Theres a reason you end up only frequenting azura once in a blue moon to defend emp - because people dont want to come back when decibel is on standby to come in with other groups as needed to defend the place with overwhelming numbers against a faction that simply cant put out those numbers on other servers.


Ultimately, if you have a magicka sorc that is losing emp when its 2bars vs 2bars - maybe he deserves to lose emp.

WRX

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Yea there was some fun fights, was fun all night all over the map. But to be clear, it was 2 bar vs 2 bar for about 20mins and the battles became pretty 1 sided for DC steamrolling.

Then AD groups swing in and play a numbers game again (as it is 95% of the time in azura). The emp group told FENGRUSH they 'were only 8 people' as well, and somehow they had no idea decibel was ever even there.

Even if DC crowned an emp, it would be flipped before noon tomorrow guaranteed. If AD doesnt take it overnight, Herpaderp runs with a solid 20man group to shamefully cruise through empty keeps every morning. So the whole 'defending an emperor' is a moot point - campaign is also already won for AD.


You guys say youre leaving, but then you just happen to show up to defend emperors with numbers advantage and an emp (mostly irrelevant in this case) but theyve got all the buffs going for you too. The fights were enjoyable, but dont pretend to be interested in giving a waning and underpopulated faction a fair shot at PvPing. Its a constant uphill battle on DC, but you went out of your way tonight to ensure that, and Lord FENGRUSH is disappointed in you.

WRX wrote: »

bchulettub17_ESO wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

Flawlless wrote: »

I'm not super upset about recent events cause the AP has been flowing like wine, but blame DC for what's happening? lmao, that's a joke. It's AD who brings their entire faction everywhere they go. I thought the whole point of everyone leaving Thorn was to spread out so there wasn't as much lag but nope, truth is AD was running away to find a place where they could do the exact same thing. If you're at poplock fighting one or two bars of enemies, maybe it's time to switch servers, instead of chasing down anyone who so much as touches a resource. If Decibel doesn't leave Azuras I think I'll lose a lot of respect for them.

For the nth time, we are leaving haha

But if you dont mind we asking, where did DC go? Thats the only hope for a good campaign. I hear Haderus. I like Haderus. Its nice.

You have lied to The Lord. Your respect has been stripped to levels almost as low as Agrippa after he lag repaired the last emperor keep with a zerg and denied any involvement before having a screenshot posted to prove the opposite.

BUT LORD. I IMPLORE YOU TO RECONSIDER.

I am defending a friends emperorship, not mine. It is only righteous that I defend, and we were never higher than 14. Fights were good.

Why do you choose to defend that type of emperorship rather than attempting to crown an emp on a server with equal numbers? Just seems like you're running from competition at this point.

Oh you mean like when we took most the keeps on chillrend, but decided to come back and defend a guildie?

At this point, pretty sure everyone is linked together by a series of guilds on the other factions. Ironically, the guildie you came to defend is in a different group that had no idea that your guild is even there. Apparently they were so used to sieging empty DC keeps that they didnt realize all of the DC left on the server were stuck fighting decibel and others down south.


But FENGRUSH would not say decibel is running from competition at all. It makes sense for them to come and hop in on defense for AP. But to say youve left the server (unless the server becomes contested) is a load. Theres no other times for you to be there, unless you want to capture keeps with a 20 man group against 2-3 DC with an emperor. Theres a reason you end up only frequenting azura once in a blue moon to defend emp - because people dont want to come back when decibel is on standby to come in with other groups as needed to defend the place with overwhelming numbers against a faction that simply cant put out those numbers on other servers.


Ultimately, if you have a magicka sorc that is losing emp when its 2bars vs 2bars - maybe he deserves to lose emp.

Well my lord, I do not know what to say. All points you bring up are valid, but as an emp (magicka btw) I know I didn't love being dethroned, but when I saw it happen (and I did not defend one bit that night) I was happy because I knew who would get it.

Here is how decibel sees it. Our home campaign (due to the timeline) is getting smashed by even fights. 2 bars vs 2 bars. Is it wrong for us to show up and fight for a friend and defend his emp? Sure he has had it alot, but still, I wont hand a throne over ever and neither would the lord. Idk, I just dont see an issue with it, more that DC wants their server back. IMO they can take it, but don't want it.

PS: Ive seen alot of beef on Herk, however hes a pretty amazing player and a phenomenal group play emperor.Hes a selfless player that is 100% interested in what the group needs opposed to his output.

From what I have seen, DC and EP needs alot more of those players.

FENGRUSH

WRX wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Yea there was some fun fights, was fun all night all over the map. But to be clear, it was 2 bar vs 2 bar for about 20mins and the battles became pretty 1 sided for DC steamrolling.

Then AD groups swing in and play a numbers game again (as it is 95% of the time in azura). The emp group told FENGRUSH they 'were only 8 people' as well, and somehow they had no idea decibel was ever even there.

Even if DC crowned an emp, it would be flipped before noon tomorrow guaranteed. If AD doesnt take it overnight, Herpaderp runs with a solid 20man group to shamefully cruise through empty keeps every morning. So the whole 'defending an emperor' is a moot point - campaign is also already won for AD.


You guys say youre leaving, but then you just happen to show up to defend emperors with numbers advantage and an emp (mostly irrelevant in this case) but theyve got all the buffs going for you too. The fights were enjoyable, but dont pretend to be interested in giving a waning and underpopulated faction a fair shot at PvPing. Its a constant uphill battle on DC, but you went out of your way tonight to ensure that, and Lord FENGRUSH is disappointed in you.

WRX wrote: »

bchulettub17_ESO wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

Flawlless wrote: »

I'm not super upset about recent events cause the AP has been flowing like wine, but blame DC for what's happening? lmao, that's a joke. It's AD who brings their entire faction everywhere they go. I thought the whole point of everyone leaving Thorn was to spread out so there wasn't as much lag but nope, truth is AD was running away to find a place where they could do the exact same thing. If you're at poplock fighting one or two bars of enemies, maybe it's time to switch servers, instead of chasing down anyone who so much as touches a resource. If Decibel doesn't leave Azuras I think I'll lose a lot of respect for them.

For the nth time, we are leaving haha

But if you dont mind we asking, where did DC go? Thats the only hope for a good campaign. I hear Haderus. I like Haderus. Its nice.

You have lied to The Lord. Your respect has been stripped to levels almost as low as Agrippa after he lag repaired the last emperor keep with a zerg and denied any involvement before having a screenshot posted to prove the opposite.

BUT LORD. I IMPLORE YOU TO RECONSIDER.

I am defending a friends emperorship, not mine. It is only righteous that I defend, and we were never higher than 14. Fights were good.

Why do you choose to defend that type of emperorship rather than attempting to crown an emp on a server with equal numbers? Just seems like you're running from competition at this point.

Oh you mean like when we took most the keeps on chillrend, but decided to come back and defend a guildie?

At this point, pretty sure everyone is linked together by a series of guilds on the other factions. Ironically, the guildie you came to defend is in a different group that had no idea that your guild is even there. Apparently they were so used to sieging empty DC keeps that they didnt realize all of the DC left on the server were stuck fighting decibel and others down south.


But FENGRUSH would not say decibel is running from competition at all. It makes sense for them to come and hop in on defense for AP. But to say youve left the server (unless the server becomes contested) is a load. Theres no other times for you to be there, unless you want to capture keeps with a 20 man group against 2-3 DC with an emperor. Theres a reason you end up only frequenting azura once in a blue moon to defend emp - because people dont want to come back when decibel is on standby to come in with other groups as needed to defend the place with overwhelming numbers against a faction that simply cant put out those numbers on other servers.


Ultimately, if you have a magicka sorc that is losing emp when its 2bars vs 2bars - maybe he deserves to lose emp.

Well my lord, I do not know what to say. All points you bring up are valid, but as an emp (magicka btw) I know I didn't love being dethroned, but when I saw it happen (and I did not defend one bit that night) I was happy because I knew who would get it.

Here is how decibel sees it. Our home campaign (due to the timeline) is getting smashed by even fights. 2 bars vs 2 bars. Is it wrong for us to show up and fight for a friend and defend his emp? Sure he has had it alot, but still, I wont hand a throne over ever and neither would the lord. Idk, I just dont see an issue with it, more that DC wants their server back. IMO they can take it, but don't want it.

PS: Ive seen alot of beef on Herk, however hes a pretty amazing player and a phenomenal group play emperor.Hes a selfless player that is 100% interested in what the group needs opposed to his output.

From what I have seen, DC and EP needs alot more of those players.

Are you insinuating that DC does not have enough herpaderps to be victorious?

The Lord FENGRUSH has provided you with insights to carry on your journeys. Ultimately, you would have done more for your friend if you allowed DC to capture emp. Then Herp would have to capture the ring and feel an overwhelming sense of accomplishment in doing so versus his routine guard slaying. Also, he would have gained an extra CP to ensure his unmatched strengths as a magicka sorc emp. Instead youve diminished everyones experience for your own selfish gains. Your reputation is rapidly plunging towards Agrippa levels!

rfennell_ESO

Discounting the constant stream of "we were outnumbered" when it isn't so most of the time.

Most AD I know would rather fight DC. It's funner fights regardless of the outcome or numbers. So when the opportunity knocks, we all come running... and it's not to defend Azuras.

Any time you are stuck dealing with a red population it's a guarantee that they will summon the zerg ball. If you beat the zerg ball, they will summon another zerg ball, if you manage to defeat the balls of zerg eventually they will summon the lag overlord. Who wants to play like that?

Many of us spend our pvp nights switching servers to not have to deal with EP with chaos derived monikers. It's obvious that it isn't about small scale group fights or even large scale group fights with them. It's about destroying the game for everyone involved.

There is always this DC should team up with EP in the background. DC would be better served teaming up with AD and driving the EP to their gates and then having some good old yellow versus blue fun. What usually happens is you get coordinated attacks by DC and EP that drive AD to the gates, and now you have to fight the lag inducers. Better you than us, but you might sometimes think about who you have more fun fighting; you can even pose it as the fictional "how much you kick our butts" like usual.