NPK Daniel wrote: »Sure, we could rally 100 billy bad @$$ DC to come get ya... But we all remember Thornblade right?
So, in reality my options are:
Leave
Deal with the Lag
or call friends, which creates even more lag
The only options that doesn't involve lag is leave....
You can say anything you want, it's simply ironic seeing Deciblob members telling people to stop gatecamping, bash other guilds for doing it (which never really took place) and then that exact guild is doing it every night for the last couple of days. My guild took chalman, lost it for farra, took arrius and kings with the help of EP. Then we got pushed to our gates, again. One guildgroup of 10-15 can not win against 2-3 full organized farming raids. I don't whine about people zerging, sometimes i point out the obvious. Your own GM agreed and told me he is aware of his zerg even lol. The insulting comments is no surprise coming from you and speaks for itself and your maturity level. ^_^olemanwinter wrote: »Is this the Azura QQ thread? Okay cool.
So, I defending Ash against a ton of AD and we were doing a great defense. 2 counter siege for every siege out there. It took them probably 25 minutes to breach the outer. And when they rush in.....everyone lags and DCs. We come back to a lost cause.
So, whoever is to blame. Zos, EP on the other side of the map, the AD that we were fighting. Talos just hates DC (yeah I know Talos isn't around yet..whatevs)....you suck.
The AD currently on Azura are a league of revenge squads. They're doing what ep has done to TB and Chillrend. Dc is just caught in the middle. Ad will force everyone off Azura and it will be a perma yellow map.
Then ad and ep will come to these forums and QQ hard about how there is no competetive campaigns and they can't find anyone to play with.
People are going to mass quit pvp. And it will be OUR fault. It won't matter how ZOS has failed the servers and neglected the issues. Player behavior is the root of the problem.
Not every yellow wants to smash the competition in so that they leave the server. Don't lump us in with that loud idiot that posted that thread recently, he speaks only for himself.
I'd Agree with this twice if I could
OTOH, maybe we could all agree to try to keep competition alive by avoiding things like gate camping, pushing a faction's last keeps, painting the whole map one color, etc. ?
I believe I read earlier in this thread from DC people that they feel these tactics are acceptable for them to employ because it has been done to them, and because DC has had it very rough.
I understand that, but I also remember it is the exact same thing that EP said to AD when we complained about them doing it to us, and we all saw how that turned out.
It's a vicious circle, we've all been gate camped, every faction has at one time or another, on one server or another, been zerged down and crushed, and every faction has been guilty of it too. If we keep excusing these tactics by saying "Well, it's fair bc they've been doing it to us," then it will never stop.
Maybe you should actually log on and see what your own guild is/has been doing then take your own advice. What you say is true but you have no credibility when you have recently bashed Havoc saying ''which is why you have to farm level 45s at their gates, I suppose- you can't do stuff like that without losing a lot of respect from the community and other guilds... it just makes your whole guild seem egotistical and unpleasant.'' Keep saying the ''right'' things when it suits your agenda.I guess AD doesn't watch GoT?!What yesterday proved was GoT > ESO
You can say anything you want about Decibel, God knows we've farmed gates ( never for too long, the core members get bored real fast), but Winnie is the first person to leave group or push us not to take that last keep or scroll. And many times we have actually left the map without talking a single scroll cuz blue or red have low pop. What happened last night was another thing entirely, you guys had 3 bars and acording to Agrippa farmed the many AD there. Better be informed before you make stupid accusations, little dog! Also please have the decency to not whine about other people zerging, makes you look even more stupid.
Speaking of maturity, why do you always mock our guild name and misspell my name? I don't see eye to eye with you or your guild on everything, but I do give you the respect of getting your names right, hell, I even said that Havoc is talented, and I've defended you many times on the forums against "lagsploitation" accusations, because I don't think they're fair.
As for Decibel camping gates, I don't approve, tea pot is correct, I leave group if we even attack a faction's last keeps, drives WRX nuts, but it's just not my scene. But, these are my personal beliefs, I'm not the GM of Deci, I don't lead raids, and I can't make the whole group do what I want them to do. Aside from all that, I've been away for the past couple of weeks, and I hardly see how you can blame me for what happens when I'm not even there.Back on topic, I'm rly confused at the AD guild stack. it's wierd cuz Pact guilds are all spread out atm, but if it keeps up we will definitely see more of them converging to Azura.
If everyone would just stay put now and let it happen, we could have are rise of a new main server here! I'm just worried that the second opposition shows up in force, everyone's gonna scatter again and restack elsewhere. Cuz that seems to be the pattern.
Ve, nexus and havoc and lord knows who else all showing on Azura. So where is this "spread"? Who is left on Chill? Not arguing. I really am curious.
VE is homed Chillrend, that's where we spend our time mostly. We come to Azuras when action is low or on request, but we don't put time into points or controlling the map. As far as I know Nexus and Havoc don't spend their full time there either, much less the other EP guilds.
Don't get me wrong I'm all for it, we all want a new Thornblade to invest in and fight for. Just seems whenever we do that, all the competition leaves and restack a elsewhere
We leave because the server can't handle all of us being there, do you remember the lag on Thorn after 1.6 came out? We only played there maybe twice before we decided to rehome. It was bad, it was beyond bad, keep takes were like watching abnormally long powerpoint presentations. I was actually missing the FPS bug. And that wasn't even all of the main guilds, Misfitz, Alacrity, DiE, they were all on Chill already.
We all want that one big server with all the main guilds fighting each other again, but we can't get anywhere near that now without the lag becoming unplayable, and then people rage quit group, or stop playing, or just blame everyone else for it, it sucks.
Maybe if we could get it down to like, one main guild per faction on each campaign? That might be workable server-wise, but Idk how we'd actually get people to agree to do it.
If everyone knows the server can't handle it why is AD stacking the server with multiple raids. That's why people are going there, because there are so many AD.
I agree.
We need to spread out.
I don't know what all lead to the AD guild stack on Azuras, I'm in Morocco
Deciblob is just the norm on EP side. I haven't even written your name and i have no idea how my maturity level is based of me misspelling it lol. How you think i would know you are in Morocco and been gone for weeks, i have no clue. What i do know is that you are a Deci-Officer, talking about the negatives of gatecamping while your guild is actively doing it. You also talk about how your guild didn't play on Thornblade because of stacking of AD guilds and how it affected the server, yet deci is in Azura with 3-4 other AD guilds. Nothing more, nothing less. It speaks for itself.
I didn't expect you to know I was in Morocco, that's why I told you. I was explaining that not only was I not involved in any gate camping, I haven't been there for the past two weeks at all because I have been away, so whatever Decibel has done in that time, you'll need to take up with someone else.
And I did not say that we left Thorn because of AD guild stacking affecting the server, I said that even without the other AD guilds there, the server couldn't handle all the organized groups. Which is why all the guilds can't be on one server, not just the AD guilds.
I am sure EP made fine points farming the AD that let them die to siege. I was telling people to go get kills on them actually so we would have had people to fight still.
As for that scroll Agrippa, we could have farmed that for as long as we would of liked honestly, but felt poorly about doing so and decided instead to give it back to red and just continue to fight in the gate. We have no interest in the scroll. If your AP was as good as ours I would be impressed. Finally broke 100k+/hr in that gate.
As for emma, you guys farmed PvE players with trebs in the respawn, then came to the forums saying how it was "planet havoc" and tons of other things. We were fighting multiple organized groups behind there, and still believe it to be poor sportsmanship. I also have video last night of you guys attempting to take chalman with your 15 or so and another raid of 24, only to get wiped by our 15. Much of yesterday the "Deciblob" was capped at 16 or 18, but then we got some tells saying how you were coming to dethrone with xyz soo decided to crank it up. Seemed to work.
Anyways, if anyone remembers the EP buff server azura's was going to be day 1, I am sure we would be having a different conversation. But as I said, we will be looking other places for fights now as well. Should be fun.
You can say anything you want, it's simply ironic seeing Deciblob members telling people to stop gatecamping, bash other guilds for doing it (which never really took place) and then that exact guild is doing it every night for the last couple of days. My guild took chalman, lost it for farra, took arrius and kings with the help of EP. Then we got pushed to our gates, again. One guildgroup of 10-15 can not win against 2-3 full organized farming raids. I don't whine about people zerging, sometimes i point out the obvious. Your own GM agreed and told me he is aware of his zerg even lol. The insulting comments is no surprise coming from you and speaks for itself and your maturity level. ^_^olemanwinter wrote: »Is this the Azura QQ thread? Okay cool.
So, I defending Ash against a ton of AD and we were doing a great defense. 2 counter siege for every siege out there. It took them probably 25 minutes to breach the outer. And when they rush in.....everyone lags and DCs. We come back to a lost cause.
So, whoever is to blame. Zos, EP on the other side of the map, the AD that we were fighting. Talos just hates DC (yeah I know Talos isn't around yet..whatevs)....you suck.
The AD currently on Azura are a league of revenge squads. They're doing what ep has done to TB and Chillrend. Dc is just caught in the middle. Ad will force everyone off Azura and it will be a perma yellow map.
Then ad and ep will come to these forums and QQ hard about how there is no competetive campaigns and they can't find anyone to play with.
People are going to mass quit pvp. And it will be OUR fault. It won't matter how ZOS has failed the servers and neglected the issues. Player behavior is the root of the problem.
Not every yellow wants to smash the competition in so that they leave the server. Don't lump us in with that loud idiot that posted that thread recently, he speaks only for himself.
I'd Agree with this twice if I could
OTOH, maybe we could all agree to try to keep competition alive by avoiding things like gate camping, pushing a faction's last keeps, painting the whole map one color, etc. ?
I believe I read earlier in this thread from DC people that they feel these tactics are acceptable for them to employ because it has been done to them, and because DC has had it very rough.
I understand that, but I also remember it is the exact same thing that EP said to AD when we complained about them doing it to us, and we all saw how that turned out.
It's a vicious circle, we've all been gate camped, every faction has at one time or another, on one server or another, been zerged down and crushed, and every faction has been guilty of it too. If we keep excusing these tactics by saying "Well, it's fair bc they've been doing it to us," then it will never stop.
Maybe you should actually log on and see what your own guild is/has been doing then take your own advice. What you say is true but you have no credibility when you have recently bashed Havoc saying ''which is why you have to farm level 45s at their gates, I suppose- you can't do stuff like that without losing a lot of respect from the community and other guilds... it just makes your whole guild seem egotistical and unpleasant.'' Keep saying the ''right'' things when it suits your agenda.I guess AD doesn't watch GoT?!What yesterday proved was GoT > ESO
You can say anything you want about Decibel, God knows we've farmed gates ( never for too long, the core members get bored real fast), but Winnie is the first person to leave group or push us not to take that last keep or scroll. And many times we have actually left the map without talking a single scroll cuz blue or red have low pop. What happened last night was another thing entirely, you guys had 3 bars and acording to Agrippa farmed the many AD there. Better be informed before you make stupid accusations, little dog! Also please have the decency to not whine about other people zerging, makes you look even more stupid.
Speaking of maturity, why do you always mock our guild name and misspell my name? I don't see eye to eye with you or your guild on everything, but I do give you the respect of getting your names right, hell, I even said that Havoc is talented, and I've defended you many times on the forums against "lagsploitation" accusations, because I don't think they're fair.
As for Decibel camping gates, I don't approve, tea pot is correct, I leave group if we even attack a faction's last keeps, drives WRX nuts, but it's just not my scene. But, these are my personal beliefs, I'm not the GM of Deci, I don't lead raids, and I can't make the whole group do what I want them to do. Aside from all that, I've been away for the past couple of weeks, and I hardly see how you can blame me for what happens when I'm not even there.Back on topic, I'm rly confused at the AD guild stack. it's wierd cuz Pact guilds are all spread out atm, but if it keeps up we will definitely see more of them converging to Azura.
If everyone would just stay put now and let it happen, we could have are rise of a new main server here! I'm just worried that the second opposition shows up in force, everyone's gonna scatter again and restack elsewhere. Cuz that seems to be the pattern.
Ve, nexus and havoc and lord knows who else all showing on Azura. So where is this "spread"? Who is left on Chill? Not arguing. I really am curious.
VE is homed Chillrend, that's where we spend our time mostly. We come to Azuras when action is low or on request, but we don't put time into points or controlling the map. As far as I know Nexus and Havoc don't spend their full time there either, much less the other EP guilds.
Don't get me wrong I'm all for it, we all want a new Thornblade to invest in and fight for. Just seems whenever we do that, all the competition leaves and restack a elsewhere
We leave because the server can't handle all of us being there, do you remember the lag on Thorn after 1.6 came out? We only played there maybe twice before we decided to rehome. It was bad, it was beyond bad, keep takes were like watching abnormally long powerpoint presentations. I was actually missing the FPS bug. And that wasn't even all of the main guilds, Misfitz, Alacrity, DiE, they were all on Chill already.
We all want that one big server with all the main guilds fighting each other again, but we can't get anywhere near that now without the lag becoming unplayable, and then people rage quit group, or stop playing, or just blame everyone else for it, it sucks.
Maybe if we could get it down to like, one main guild per faction on each campaign? That might be workable server-wise, but Idk how we'd actually get people to agree to do it.
If everyone knows the server can't handle it why is AD stacking the server with multiple raids. That's why people are going there, because there are so many AD.
I agree.
We need to spread out.
I don't know what all lead to the AD guild stack on Azuras, I'm in Morocco
Deciblob is just the norm on EP side. I haven't even written your name and i have no idea how my maturity level is based of me misspelling it lol. How you think i would know you are in Morocco and been gone for weeks, i have no clue. What i do know is that you are a Deci-Officer, talking about the negatives of gatecamping while your guild is actively doing it. You also talk about how your guild didn't play on Thornblade because of stacking of AD guilds and how it affected the server, yet deci is in Azura with 3-4 other AD guilds. Nothing more, nothing less. It speaks for itself.
I didn't expect you to know I was in Morocco, that's why I told you. I was explaining that not only was I not involved in any gate camping, I haven't been there for the past two weeks at all because I have been away, so whatever Decibel has done in that time, you'll need to take up with someone else.
And I did not say that we left Thorn because of AD guild stacking affecting the server, I said that even without the other AD guilds there, the server couldn't handle all the organized groups. Which is why all the guilds can't be on one server, not just the AD guilds.
You don't seem to understand and i'll repeat myself, only reason why i'm taking it up with you is because you say gatecamping is bad, stacking AD guilds in one server is bad, misquoted my guildies to put us in a bad light, you've insulted my guild in the past falsely claiming we camp lvl 45's at the gates of Thorn, and the guild you are officer in is actively doing it in Azura. Any guild can do whatever they please, but the moment i hear sheer hypocrisy is the moment i react. I'm not blaming you for what your guild is doing, just, adding up all these things makes you seem clueless, and not agree with alot of what your guild is currently doing.I am sure EP made fine points farming the AD that let them die to siege. I was telling people to go get kills on them actually so we would have had people to fight still.
As for that scroll Agrippa, we could have farmed that for as long as we would of liked honestly, but felt poorly about doing so and decided instead to give it back to red and just continue to fight in the gate. We have no interest in the scroll. If your AP was as good as ours I would be impressed. Finally broke 100k+/hr in that gate.
As for emma, you guys farmed PvE players with trebs in the respawn, then came to the forums saying how it was "planet havoc" and tons of other things. We were fighting multiple organized groups behind there, and still believe it to be poor sportsmanship. I also have video last night of you guys attempting to take chalman with your 15 or so and another raid of 24, only to get wiped by our 15. Much of yesterday the "Deciblob" was capped at 16 or 18, but then we got some tells saying how you were coming to dethrone with xyz soo decided to crank it up. Seemed to work.
Anyways, if anyone remembers the EP buff server azura's was going to be day 1, I am sure we would be having a different conversation. But as I said, we will be looking other places for fights now as well. Should be fun.
We took chalman only to keep AD pressure off Farragut to close our gates which obviously worked. I jokingly wrote Manoe that we would dethrone while GoT was running and then send book spoilers to your guild... LOLS. Didn't know you would take it seriously
You can say anything you want, it's simply ironic seeing Deciblob members telling people to stop gatecamping, bash other guilds for doing it (which never really took place) and then that exact guild is doing it every night for the last couple of days. My guild took chalman, lost it for farra, took arrius and kings with the help of EP. Then we got pushed to our gates, again. One guildgroup of 10-15 can not win against 2-3 full organized farming raids. I don't whine about people zerging, sometimes i point out the obvious. Your own GM agreed and told me he is aware of his zerg even lol. The insulting comments is no surprise coming from you and speaks for itself and your maturity level. ^_^olemanwinter wrote: »Is this the Azura QQ thread? Okay cool.
So, I defending Ash against a ton of AD and we were doing a great defense. 2 counter siege for every siege out there. It took them probably 25 minutes to breach the outer. And when they rush in.....everyone lags and DCs. We come back to a lost cause.
So, whoever is to blame. Zos, EP on the other side of the map, the AD that we were fighting. Talos just hates DC (yeah I know Talos isn't around yet..whatevs)....you suck.
The AD currently on Azura are a league of revenge squads. They're doing what ep has done to TB and Chillrend. Dc is just caught in the middle. Ad will force everyone off Azura and it will be a perma yellow map.
Then ad and ep will come to these forums and QQ hard about how there is no competetive campaigns and they can't find anyone to play with.
People are going to mass quit pvp. And it will be OUR fault. It won't matter how ZOS has failed the servers and neglected the issues. Player behavior is the root of the problem.
Not every yellow wants to smash the competition in so that they leave the server. Don't lump us in with that loud idiot that posted that thread recently, he speaks only for himself.
I'd Agree with this twice if I could
OTOH, maybe we could all agree to try to keep competition alive by avoiding things like gate camping, pushing a faction's last keeps, painting the whole map one color, etc. ?
I believe I read earlier in this thread from DC people that they feel these tactics are acceptable for them to employ because it has been done to them, and because DC has had it very rough.
I understand that, but I also remember it is the exact same thing that EP said to AD when we complained about them doing it to us, and we all saw how that turned out.
It's a vicious circle, we've all been gate camped, every faction has at one time or another, on one server or another, been zerged down and crushed, and every faction has been guilty of it too. If we keep excusing these tactics by saying "Well, it's fair bc they've been doing it to us," then it will never stop.
Maybe you should actually log on and see what your own guild is/has been doing then take your own advice. What you say is true but you have no credibility when you have recently bashed Havoc saying ''which is why you have to farm level 45s at their gates, I suppose- you can't do stuff like that without losing a lot of respect from the community and other guilds... it just makes your whole guild seem egotistical and unpleasant.'' Keep saying the ''right'' things when it suits your agenda.I guess AD doesn't watch GoT?!What yesterday proved was GoT > ESO
You can say anything you want about Decibel, God knows we've farmed gates ( never for too long, the core members get bored real fast), but Winnie is the first person to leave group or push us not to take that last keep or scroll. And many times we have actually left the map without talking a single scroll cuz blue or red have low pop. What happened last night was another thing entirely, you guys had 3 bars and acording to Agrippa farmed the many AD there. Better be informed before you make stupid accusations, little dog! Also please have the decency to not whine about other people zerging, makes you look even more stupid.
Speaking of maturity, why do you always mock our guild name and misspell my name? I don't see eye to eye with you or your guild on everything, but I do give you the respect of getting your names right, hell, I even said that Havoc is talented, and I've defended you many times on the forums against "lagsploitation" accusations, because I don't think they're fair.
As for Decibel camping gates, I don't approve, tea pot is correct, I leave group if we even attack a faction's last keeps, drives WRX nuts, but it's just not my scene. But, these are my personal beliefs, I'm not the GM of Deci, I don't lead raids, and I can't make the whole group do what I want them to do. Aside from all that, I've been away for the past couple of weeks, and I hardly see how you can blame me for what happens when I'm not even there.Back on topic, I'm rly confused at the AD guild stack. it's wierd cuz Pact guilds are all spread out atm, but if it keeps up we will definitely see more of them converging to Azura.
If everyone would just stay put now and let it happen, we could have are rise of a new main server here! I'm just worried that the second opposition shows up in force, everyone's gonna scatter again and restack elsewhere. Cuz that seems to be the pattern.
Ve, nexus and havoc and lord knows who else all showing on Azura. So where is this "spread"? Who is left on Chill? Not arguing. I really am curious.
VE is homed Chillrend, that's where we spend our time mostly. We come to Azuras when action is low or on request, but we don't put time into points or controlling the map. As far as I know Nexus and Havoc don't spend their full time there either, much less the other EP guilds.
Don't get me wrong I'm all for it, we all want a new Thornblade to invest in and fight for. Just seems whenever we do that, all the competition leaves and restack a elsewhere
We leave because the server can't handle all of us being there, do you remember the lag on Thorn after 1.6 came out? We only played there maybe twice before we decided to rehome. It was bad, it was beyond bad, keep takes were like watching abnormally long powerpoint presentations. I was actually missing the FPS bug. And that wasn't even all of the main guilds, Misfitz, Alacrity, DiE, they were all on Chill already.
We all want that one big server with all the main guilds fighting each other again, but we can't get anywhere near that now without the lag becoming unplayable, and then people rage quit group, or stop playing, or just blame everyone else for it, it sucks.
Maybe if we could get it down to like, one main guild per faction on each campaign? That might be workable server-wise, but Idk how we'd actually get people to agree to do it.
If everyone knows the server can't handle it why is AD stacking the server with multiple raids. That's why people are going there, because there are so many AD.
I agree.
We need to spread out.
I don't know what all lead to the AD guild stack on Azuras, I'm in Morocco
Deciblob is just the norm on EP side. I haven't even written your name and i have no idea how my maturity level is based of me misspelling it lol. How you think i would know you are in Morocco and been gone for weeks, i have no clue. What i do know is that you are a Deci-Officer, talking about the negatives of gatecamping while your guild is actively doing it. You also talk about how your guild didn't play on Thornblade because of stacking of AD guilds and how it affected the server, yet deci is in Azura with 3-4 other AD guilds. Nothing more, nothing less. It speaks for itself.
I didn't expect you to know I was in Morocco, that's why I told you. I was explaining that not only was I not involved in any gate camping, I haven't been there for the past two weeks at all because I have been away, so whatever Decibel has done in that time, you'll need to take up with someone else.
And I did not say that we left Thorn because of AD guild stacking affecting the server, I said that even without the other AD guilds there, the server couldn't handle all the organized groups. Which is why all the guilds can't be on one server, not just the AD guilds.
You don't seem to understand and i'll repeat myself, only reason why i'm taking it up with you is because you say gatecamping is bad, stacking AD guilds in one server is bad, misquoted my guildies to put us in a bad light, you've insulted my guild in the past falsely claiming we camp lvl 45's at the gates of Thorn, and the guild you are officer in is actively doing it in Azura. Any guild can do whatever they please, but the moment i hear sheer hypocrisy is the moment i react. I'm not blaming you for what your guild is doing, just, adding up all these things makes you seem clueless, and not agree with alot of what your guild is currently doing.I am sure EP made fine points farming the AD that let them die to siege. I was telling people to go get kills on them actually so we would have had people to fight still.
As for that scroll Agrippa, we could have farmed that for as long as we would of liked honestly, but felt poorly about doing so and decided instead to give it back to red and just continue to fight in the gate. We have no interest in the scroll. If your AP was as good as ours I would be impressed. Finally broke 100k+/hr in that gate.
As for emma, you guys farmed PvE players with trebs in the respawn, then came to the forums saying how it was "planet havoc" and tons of other things. We were fighting multiple organized groups behind there, and still believe it to be poor sportsmanship. I also have video last night of you guys attempting to take chalman with your 15 or so and another raid of 24, only to get wiped by our 15. Much of yesterday the "Deciblob" was capped at 16 or 18, but then we got some tells saying how you were coming to dethrone with xyz soo decided to crank it up. Seemed to work.
Anyways, if anyone remembers the EP buff server azura's was going to be day 1, I am sure we would be having a different conversation. But as I said, we will be looking other places for fights now as well. Should be fun.
We took chalman only to keep AD pressure off Farragut to close our gates which obviously worked. I jokingly wrote Manoe that we would dethrone while GoT was running and then send book spoilers to your guild... LOLS. Didn't know you would take it seriously
You can say anything you want, it's simply ironic seeing Deciblob members telling people to stop gatecamping, bash other guilds for doing it (which never really took place) and then that exact guild is doing it every night for the last couple of days. My guild took chalman, lost it for farra, took arrius and kings with the help of EP. Then we got pushed to our gates, again. One guildgroup of 10-15 can not win against 2-3 full organized farming raids. I don't whine about people zerging, sometimes i point out the obvious. Your own GM agreed and told me he is aware of his zerg even lol. The insulting comments is no surprise coming from you and speaks for itself and your maturity level. ^_^olemanwinter wrote: »Is this the Azura QQ thread? Okay cool.
So, I defending Ash against a ton of AD and we were doing a great defense. 2 counter siege for every siege out there. It took them probably 25 minutes to breach the outer. And when they rush in.....everyone lags and DCs. We come back to a lost cause.
So, whoever is to blame. Zos, EP on the other side of the map, the AD that we were fighting. Talos just hates DC (yeah I know Talos isn't around yet..whatevs)....you suck.
The AD currently on Azura are a league of revenge squads. They're doing what ep has done to TB and Chillrend. Dc is just caught in the middle. Ad will force everyone off Azura and it will be a perma yellow map.
Then ad and ep will come to these forums and QQ hard about how there is no competetive campaigns and they can't find anyone to play with.
People are going to mass quit pvp. And it will be OUR fault. It won't matter how ZOS has failed the servers and neglected the issues. Player behavior is the root of the problem.
Not every yellow wants to smash the competition in so that they leave the server. Don't lump us in with that loud idiot that posted that thread recently, he speaks only for himself.
I'd Agree with this twice if I could
OTOH, maybe we could all agree to try to keep competition alive by avoiding things like gate camping, pushing a faction's last keeps, painting the whole map one color, etc. ?
I believe I read earlier in this thread from DC people that they feel these tactics are acceptable for them to employ because it has been done to them, and because DC has had it very rough.
I understand that, but I also remember it is the exact same thing that EP said to AD when we complained about them doing it to us, and we all saw how that turned out.
It's a vicious circle, we've all been gate camped, every faction has at one time or another, on one server or another, been zerged down and crushed, and every faction has been guilty of it too. If we keep excusing these tactics by saying "Well, it's fair bc they've been doing it to us," then it will never stop.
Maybe you should actually log on and see what your own guild is/has been doing then take your own advice. What you say is true but you have no credibility when you have recently bashed Havoc saying ''which is why you have to farm level 45s at their gates, I suppose- you can't do stuff like that without losing a lot of respect from the community and other guilds... it just makes your whole guild seem egotistical and unpleasant.'' Keep saying the ''right'' things when it suits your agenda.I guess AD doesn't watch GoT?!What yesterday proved was GoT > ESO
You can say anything you want about Decibel, God knows we've farmed gates ( never for too long, the core members get bored real fast), but Winnie is the first person to leave group or push us not to take that last keep or scroll. And many times we have actually left the map without talking a single scroll cuz blue or red have low pop. What happened last night was another thing entirely, you guys had 3 bars and acording to Agrippa farmed the many AD there. Better be informed before you make stupid accusations, little dog! Also please have the decency to not whine about other people zerging, makes you look even more stupid.
Speaking of maturity, why do you always mock our guild name and misspell my name? I don't see eye to eye with you or your guild on everything, but I do give you the respect of getting your names right, hell, I even said that Havoc is talented, and I've defended you many times on the forums against "lagsploitation" accusations, because I don't think they're fair.
As for Decibel camping gates, I don't approve, tea pot is correct, I leave group if we even attack a faction's last keeps, drives WRX nuts, but it's just not my scene. But, these are my personal beliefs, I'm not the GM of Deci, I don't lead raids, and I can't make the whole group do what I want them to do. Aside from all that, I've been away for the past couple of weeks, and I hardly see how you can blame me for what happens when I'm not even there.Back on topic, I'm rly confused at the AD guild stack. it's wierd cuz Pact guilds are all spread out atm, but if it keeps up we will definitely see more of them converging to Azura.
If everyone would just stay put now and let it happen, we could have are rise of a new main server here! I'm just worried that the second opposition shows up in force, everyone's gonna scatter again and restack elsewhere. Cuz that seems to be the pattern.
Ve, nexus and havoc and lord knows who else all showing on Azura. So where is this "spread"? Who is left on Chill? Not arguing. I really am curious.
VE is homed Chillrend, that's where we spend our time mostly. We come to Azuras when action is low or on request, but we don't put time into points or controlling the map. As far as I know Nexus and Havoc don't spend their full time there either, much less the other EP guilds.
Don't get me wrong I'm all for it, we all want a new Thornblade to invest in and fight for. Just seems whenever we do that, all the competition leaves and restack a elsewhere
We leave because the server can't handle all of us being there, do you remember the lag on Thorn after 1.6 came out? We only played there maybe twice before we decided to rehome. It was bad, it was beyond bad, keep takes were like watching abnormally long powerpoint presentations. I was actually missing the FPS bug. And that wasn't even all of the main guilds, Misfitz, Alacrity, DiE, they were all on Chill already.
We all want that one big server with all the main guilds fighting each other again, but we can't get anywhere near that now without the lag becoming unplayable, and then people rage quit group, or stop playing, or just blame everyone else for it, it sucks.
Maybe if we could get it down to like, one main guild per faction on each campaign? That might be workable server-wise, but Idk how we'd actually get people to agree to do it.
If everyone knows the server can't handle it why is AD stacking the server with multiple raids. That's why people are going there, because there are so many AD.
I agree.
We need to spread out.
I don't know what all lead to the AD guild stack on Azuras, I'm in Morocco
Deciblob is just the norm on EP side. I haven't even written your name and i have no idea how my maturity level is based of me misspelling it lol. How you think i would know you are in Morocco and been gone for weeks, i have no clue. What i do know is that you are a Deci-Officer, talking about the negatives of gatecamping while your guild is actively doing it. You also talk about how your guild didn't play on Thornblade because of stacking of AD guilds and how it affected the server, yet deci is in Azura with 3-4 other AD guilds. Nothing more, nothing less. It speaks for itself.
I didn't expect you to know I was in Morocco, that's why I told you. I was explaining that not only was I not involved in any gate camping, I haven't been there for the past two weeks at all because I have been away, so whatever Decibel has done in that time, you'll need to take up with someone else.
And I did not say that we left Thorn because of AD guild stacking affecting the server, I said that even without the other AD guilds there, the server couldn't handle all the organized groups. Which is why all the guilds can't be on one server, not just the AD guilds.
You don't seem to understand and i'll repeat myself, only reason why i'm taking it up with you is because you say gatecamping is bad, stacking AD guilds in one server is bad, misquoted my guildies to put us in a bad light, you've insulted my guild in the past falsely claiming we camp lvl 45's at the gates of Thorn, and the guild you are officer in is actively doing it in Azura. Any guild can do whatever they please, but the moment i hear sheer hypocrisy is the moment i react. I'm not blaming you for what your guild is doing, just, adding up all these things makes you seem clueless, and not agree with alot of what your guild is currently doing.I am sure EP made fine points farming the AD that let them die to siege. I was telling people to go get kills on them actually so we would have had people to fight still.
As for that scroll Agrippa, we could have farmed that for as long as we would of liked honestly, but felt poorly about doing so and decided instead to give it back to red and just continue to fight in the gate. We have no interest in the scroll. If your AP was as good as ours I would be impressed. Finally broke 100k+/hr in that gate.
As for emma, you guys farmed PvE players with trebs in the respawn, then came to the forums saying how it was "planet havoc" and tons of other things. We were fighting multiple organized groups behind there, and still believe it to be poor sportsmanship. I also have video last night of you guys attempting to take chalman with your 15 or so and another raid of 24, only to get wiped by our 15. Much of yesterday the "Deciblob" was capped at 16 or 18, but then we got some tells saying how you were coming to dethrone with xyz soo decided to crank it up. Seemed to work.
Anyways, if anyone remembers the EP buff server azura's was going to be day 1, I am sure we would be having a different conversation. But as I said, we will be looking other places for fights now as well. Should be fun.
We took chalman only to keep AD pressure off Farragut to close our gates which obviously worked. I jokingly wrote Manoe that we would dethrone while GoT was running and then send book spoilers to your guild... LOLS. Didn't know you would take it seriously
You can say anything you want, it's simply ironic seeing Deciblob members telling people to stop gatecamping, bash other guilds for doing it (which never really took place) and then that exact guild is doing it every night for the last couple of days. My guild took chalman, lost it for farra, took arrius and kings with the help of EP. Then we got pushed to our gates, again. One guildgroup of 10-15 can not win against 2-3 full organized farming raids. I don't whine about people zerging, sometimes i point out the obvious. Your own GM agreed and told me he is aware of his zerg even lol. The insulting comments is no surprise coming from you and speaks for itself and your maturity level. ^_^olemanwinter wrote: »Is this the Azura QQ thread? Okay cool.
So, I defending Ash against a ton of AD and we were doing a great defense. 2 counter siege for every siege out there. It took them probably 25 minutes to breach the outer. And when they rush in.....everyone lags and DCs. We come back to a lost cause.
So, whoever is to blame. Zos, EP on the other side of the map, the AD that we were fighting. Talos just hates DC (yeah I know Talos isn't around yet..whatevs)....you suck.
The AD currently on Azura are a league of revenge squads. They're doing what ep has done to TB and Chillrend. Dc is just caught in the middle. Ad will force everyone off Azura and it will be a perma yellow map.
Then ad and ep will come to these forums and QQ hard about how there is no competetive campaigns and they can't find anyone to play with.
People are going to mass quit pvp. And it will be OUR fault. It won't matter how ZOS has failed the servers and neglected the issues. Player behavior is the root of the problem.
Not every yellow wants to smash the competition in so that they leave the server. Don't lump us in with that loud idiot that posted that thread recently, he speaks only for himself.
I'd Agree with this twice if I could
OTOH, maybe we could all agree to try to keep competition alive by avoiding things like gate camping, pushing a faction's last keeps, painting the whole map one color, etc. ?
I believe I read earlier in this thread from DC people that they feel these tactics are acceptable for them to employ because it has been done to them, and because DC has had it very rough.
I understand that, but I also remember it is the exact same thing that EP said to AD when we complained about them doing it to us, and we all saw how that turned out.
It's a vicious circle, we've all been gate camped, every faction has at one time or another, on one server or another, been zerged down and crushed, and every faction has been guilty of it too. If we keep excusing these tactics by saying "Well, it's fair bc they've been doing it to us," then it will never stop.
Maybe you should actually log on and see what your own guild is/has been doing then take your own advice. What you say is true but you have no credibility when you have recently bashed Havoc saying ''which is why you have to farm level 45s at their gates, I suppose- you can't do stuff like that without losing a lot of respect from the community and other guilds... it just makes your whole guild seem egotistical and unpleasant.'' Keep saying the ''right'' things when it suits your agenda.I guess AD doesn't watch GoT?!What yesterday proved was GoT > ESO
You can say anything you want about Decibel, God knows we've farmed gates ( never for too long, the core members get bored real fast), but Winnie is the first person to leave group or push us not to take that last keep or scroll. And many times we have actually left the map without talking a single scroll cuz blue or red have low pop. What happened last night was another thing entirely, you guys had 3 bars and acording to Agrippa farmed the many AD there. Better be informed before you make stupid accusations, little dog! Also please have the decency to not whine about other people zerging, makes you look even more stupid.
Speaking of maturity, why do you always mock our guild name and misspell my name? I don't see eye to eye with you or your guild on everything, but I do give you the respect of getting your names right, hell, I even said that Havoc is talented, and I've defended you many times on the forums against "lagsploitation" accusations, because I don't think they're fair.
As for Decibel camping gates, I don't approve, tea pot is correct, I leave group if we even attack a faction's last keeps, drives WRX nuts, but it's just not my scene. But, these are my personal beliefs, I'm not the GM of Deci, I don't lead raids, and I can't make the whole group do what I want them to do. Aside from all that, I've been away for the past couple of weeks, and I hardly see how you can blame me for what happens when I'm not even there.Back on topic, I'm rly confused at the AD guild stack. it's wierd cuz Pact guilds are all spread out atm, but if it keeps up we will definitely see more of them converging to Azura.
If everyone would just stay put now and let it happen, we could have are rise of a new main server here! I'm just worried that the second opposition shows up in force, everyone's gonna scatter again and restack elsewhere. Cuz that seems to be the pattern.
Ve, nexus and havoc and lord knows who else all showing on Azura. So where is this "spread"? Who is left on Chill? Not arguing. I really am curious.
VE is homed Chillrend, that's where we spend our time mostly. We come to Azuras when action is low or on request, but we don't put time into points or controlling the map. As far as I know Nexus and Havoc don't spend their full time there either, much less the other EP guilds.
Don't get me wrong I'm all for it, we all want a new Thornblade to invest in and fight for. Just seems whenever we do that, all the competition leaves and restack a elsewhere
We leave because the server can't handle all of us being there, do you remember the lag on Thorn after 1.6 came out? We only played there maybe twice before we decided to rehome. It was bad, it was beyond bad, keep takes were like watching abnormally long powerpoint presentations. I was actually missing the FPS bug. And that wasn't even all of the main guilds, Misfitz, Alacrity, DiE, they were all on Chill already.
We all want that one big server with all the main guilds fighting each other again, but we can't get anywhere near that now without the lag becoming unplayable, and then people rage quit group, or stop playing, or just blame everyone else for it, it sucks.
Maybe if we could get it down to like, one main guild per faction on each campaign? That might be workable server-wise, but Idk how we'd actually get people to agree to do it.
If everyone knows the server can't handle it why is AD stacking the server with multiple raids. That's why people are going there, because there are so many AD.
I agree.
We need to spread out.
I don't know what all lead to the AD guild stack on Azuras, I'm in Morocco
Deciblob is just the norm on EP side. I haven't even written your name and i have no idea how my maturity level is based of me misspelling it lol. How you think i would know you are in Morocco and been gone for weeks, i have no clue. What i do know is that you are a Deci-Officer, talking about the negatives of gatecamping while your guild is actively doing it. You also talk about how your guild didn't play on Thornblade because of stacking of AD guilds and how it affected the server, yet deci is in Azura with 3-4 other AD guilds. Nothing more, nothing less. It speaks for itself.
I didn't expect you to know I was in Morocco, that's why I told you. I was explaining that not only was I not involved in any gate camping, I haven't been there for the past two weeks at all because I have been away, so whatever Decibel has done in that time, you'll need to take up with someone else.
And I did not say that we left Thorn because of AD guild stacking affecting the server, I said that even without the other AD guilds there, the server couldn't handle all the organized groups. Which is why all the guilds can't be on one server, not just the AD guilds.
You don't seem to understand and i'll repeat myself, only reason why i'm taking it up with you is because you say gatecamping is bad, stacking AD guilds in one server is bad, misquoted my guildies to put us in a bad light, you've insulted my guild in the past falsely claiming we camp lvl 45's at the gates of Thorn, and the guild you are officer in is actively doing it in Azura. Any guild can do whatever they please, but the moment i hear sheer hypocrisy is the moment i react. I'm not blaming you for what your guild is doing, just, adding up all these things makes you seem clueless, and not agree with alot of what your guild is currently doing.I am sure EP made fine points farming the AD that let them die to siege. I was telling people to go get kills on them actually so we would have had people to fight still.
As for that scroll Agrippa, we could have farmed that for as long as we would of liked honestly, but felt poorly about doing so and decided instead to give it back to red and just continue to fight in the gate. We have no interest in the scroll. If your AP was as good as ours I would be impressed. Finally broke 100k+/hr in that gate.
As for emma, you guys farmed PvE players with trebs in the respawn, then came to the forums saying how it was "planet havoc" and tons of other things. We were fighting multiple organized groups behind there, and still believe it to be poor sportsmanship. I also have video last night of you guys attempting to take chalman with your 15 or so and another raid of 24, only to get wiped by our 15. Much of yesterday the "Deciblob" was capped at 16 or 18, but then we got some tells saying how you were coming to dethrone with xyz soo decided to crank it up. Seemed to work.
Anyways, if anyone remembers the EP buff server azura's was going to be day 1, I am sure we would be having a different conversation. But as I said, we will be looking other places for fights now as well. Should be fun.
We took chalman only to keep AD pressure off Farragut to close our gates which obviously worked. I jokingly wrote Manoe that we would dethrone while GoT was running and then send book spoilers to your guild... LOLS. Didn't know you would take it seriously
I see little hypocrisy here. We aren't calling it planet havok, or saying we are the best, or farming low level PvE players, or running around gloating about anything of last night. We were so damn bored just proxy deting everyone to death lol. The worst thing you can say we did was open field the other guilds in the game in a gate temple.
We here at Decibel are kind-hearted righteous men and women, that do kind acts such as return scrolls and build large ticks so others can enjoy in the glory of the AP.
Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »You can say anything you want, it's simply ironic seeing Deciblob members telling people to stop gatecamping, bash other guilds for doing it (which never really took place) and then that exact guild is doing it every night for the last couple of days. My guild took chalman, lost it for farra, took arrius and kings with the help of EP. Then we got pushed to our gates, again. One guildgroup of 10-15 can not win against 2-3 full organized farming raids. I don't whine about people zerging, sometimes i point out the obvious. Your own GM agreed and told me he is aware of his zerg even lol. The insulting comments is no surprise coming from you and speaks for itself and your maturity level. ^_^olemanwinter wrote: »Is this the Azura QQ thread? Okay cool.
So, I defending Ash against a ton of AD and we were doing a great defense. 2 counter siege for every siege out there. It took them probably 25 minutes to breach the outer. And when they rush in.....everyone lags and DCs. We come back to a lost cause.
So, whoever is to blame. Zos, EP on the other side of the map, the AD that we were fighting. Talos just hates DC (yeah I know Talos isn't around yet..whatevs)....you suck.
The AD currently on Azura are a league of revenge squads. They're doing what ep has done to TB and Chillrend. Dc is just caught in the middle. Ad will force everyone off Azura and it will be a perma yellow map.
Then ad and ep will come to these forums and QQ hard about how there is no competetive campaigns and they can't find anyone to play with.
People are going to mass quit pvp. And it will be OUR fault. It won't matter how ZOS has failed the servers and neglected the issues. Player behavior is the root of the problem.
Not every yellow wants to smash the competition in so that they leave the server. Don't lump us in with that loud idiot that posted that thread recently, he speaks only for himself.
I'd Agree with this twice if I could
OTOH, maybe we could all agree to try to keep competition alive by avoiding things like gate camping, pushing a faction's last keeps, painting the whole map one color, etc. ?
I believe I read earlier in this thread from DC people that they feel these tactics are acceptable for them to employ because it has been done to them, and because DC has had it very rough.
I understand that, but I also remember it is the exact same thing that EP said to AD when we complained about them doing it to us, and we all saw how that turned out.
It's a vicious circle, we've all been gate camped, every faction has at one time or another, on one server or another, been zerged down and crushed, and every faction has been guilty of it too. If we keep excusing these tactics by saying "Well, it's fair bc they've been doing it to us," then it will never stop.
Maybe you should actually log on and see what your own guild is/has been doing then take your own advice. What you say is true but you have no credibility when you have recently bashed Havoc saying ''which is why you have to farm level 45s at their gates, I suppose- you can't do stuff like that without losing a lot of respect from the community and other guilds... it just makes your whole guild seem egotistical and unpleasant.'' Keep saying the ''right'' things when it suits your agenda.I guess AD doesn't watch GoT?!What yesterday proved was GoT > ESO
You can say anything you want about Decibel, God knows we've farmed gates ( never for too long, the core members get bored real fast), but Winnie is the first person to leave group or push us not to take that last keep or scroll. And many times we have actually left the map without talking a single scroll cuz blue or red have low pop. What happened last night was another thing entirely, you guys had 3 bars and acording to Agrippa farmed the many AD there. Better be informed before you make stupid accusations, little dog! Also please have the decency to not whine about other people zerging, makes you look even more stupid.
Speaking of maturity, why do you always mock our guild name and misspell my name? I don't see eye to eye with you or your guild on everything, but I do give you the respect of getting your names right, hell, I even said that Havoc is talented, and I've defended you many times on the forums against "lagsploitation" accusations, because I don't think they're fair.
As for Decibel camping gates, I don't approve, tea pot is correct, I leave group if we even attack a faction's last keeps, drives WRX nuts, but it's just not my scene. But, these are my personal beliefs, I'm not the GM of Deci, I don't lead raids, and I can't make the whole group do what I want them to do. Aside from all that, I've been away for the past couple of weeks, and I hardly see how you can blame me for what happens when I'm not even there.Back on topic, I'm rly confused at the AD guild stack. it's wierd cuz Pact guilds are all spread out atm, but if it keeps up we will definitely see more of them converging to Azura.
If everyone would just stay put now and let it happen, we could have are rise of a new main server here! I'm just worried that the second opposition shows up in force, everyone's gonna scatter again and restack elsewhere. Cuz that seems to be the pattern.
Ve, nexus and havoc and lord knows who else all showing on Azura. So where is this "spread"? Who is left on Chill? Not arguing. I really am curious.
VE is homed Chillrend, that's where we spend our time mostly. We come to Azuras when action is low or on request, but we don't put time into points or controlling the map. As far as I know Nexus and Havoc don't spend their full time there either, much less the other EP guilds.
Don't get me wrong I'm all for it, we all want a new Thornblade to invest in and fight for. Just seems whenever we do that, all the competition leaves and restack a elsewhere
We leave because the server can't handle all of us being there, do you remember the lag on Thorn after 1.6 came out? We only played there maybe twice before we decided to rehome. It was bad, it was beyond bad, keep takes were like watching abnormally long powerpoint presentations. I was actually missing the FPS bug. And that wasn't even all of the main guilds, Misfitz, Alacrity, DiE, they were all on Chill already.
We all want that one big server with all the main guilds fighting each other again, but we can't get anywhere near that now without the lag becoming unplayable, and then people rage quit group, or stop playing, or just blame everyone else for it, it sucks.
Maybe if we could get it down to like, one main guild per faction on each campaign? That might be workable server-wise, but Idk how we'd actually get people to agree to do it.
If everyone knows the server can't handle it why is AD stacking the server with multiple raids. That's why people are going there, because there are so many AD.
I agree.
We need to spread out.
I don't know what all lead to the AD guild stack on Azuras, I'm in Morocco
Deciblob is just the norm on EP side. I haven't even written your name and i have no idea how my maturity level is based of me misspelling it lol. How you think i would know you are in Morocco and been gone for weeks, i have no clue. What i do know is that you are a Deci-Officer, talking about the negatives of gatecamping while your guild is actively doing it. You also talk about how your guild didn't play on Thornblade because of stacking of AD guilds and how it affected the server, yet deci is in Azura with 3-4 other AD guilds. Nothing more, nothing less. It speaks for itself.
I didn't expect you to know I was in Morocco, that's why I told you. I was explaining that not only was I not involved in any gate camping, I haven't been there for the past two weeks at all because I have been away, so whatever Decibel has done in that time, you'll need to take up with someone else.
And I did not say that we left Thorn because of AD guild stacking affecting the server, I said that even without the other AD guilds there, the server couldn't handle all the organized groups. Which is why all the guilds can't be on one server, not just the AD guilds.
You don't seem to understand and i'll repeat myself, only reason why i'm taking it up with you is because you say gatecamping is bad, stacking AD guilds in one server is bad, misquoted my guildies to put us in a bad light, you've insulted my guild in the past falsely claiming we camp lvl 45's at the gates of Thorn, and the guild you are officer in is actively doing it in Azura. Any guild can do whatever they please, but the moment i hear sheer hypocrisy is the moment i react. I'm not blaming you for what your guild is doing, just, adding up all these things makes you seem clueless, and not agree with alot of what your guild is currently doing.I am sure EP made fine points farming the AD that let them die to siege. I was telling people to go get kills on them actually so we would have had people to fight still.
As for that scroll Agrippa, we could have farmed that for as long as we would of liked honestly, but felt poorly about doing so and decided instead to give it back to red and just continue to fight in the gate. We have no interest in the scroll. If your AP was as good as ours I would be impressed. Finally broke 100k+/hr in that gate.
As for emma, you guys farmed PvE players with trebs in the respawn, then came to the forums saying how it was "planet havoc" and tons of other things. We were fighting multiple organized groups behind there, and still believe it to be poor sportsmanship. I also have video last night of you guys attempting to take chalman with your 15 or so and another raid of 24, only to get wiped by our 15. Much of yesterday the "Deciblob" was capped at 16 or 18, but then we got some tells saying how you were coming to dethrone with xyz soo decided to crank it up. Seemed to work.
Anyways, if anyone remembers the EP buff server azura's was going to be day 1, I am sure we would be having a different conversation. But as I said, we will be looking other places for fights now as well. Should be fun.
We took chalman only to keep AD pressure off Farragut to close our gates which obviously worked. I jokingly wrote Manoe that we would dethrone while GoT was running and then send book spoilers to your guild... LOLS. Didn't know you would take it seriously
I see little hypocrisy here. We aren't calling it planet havok, or saying we are the best, or farming low level PvE players, or running around gloating about anything of last night. We were so damn bored just proxy deting everyone to death lol. The worst thing you can say we did was open field the other guilds in the game in a gate temple.
We here at Decibel are kind-hearted righteous men and women, that do kind acts such as return scrolls and build large ticks so others can enjoy in the glory of the AP.
So, which kind and gentle AD guild decided to knock every single wall, door, and roof open at Kingscrest?
Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »You can say anything you want, it's simply ironic seeing Deciblob members telling people to stop gatecamping, bash other guilds for doing it (which never really took place) and then that exact guild is doing it every night for the last couple of days. My guild took chalman, lost it for farra, took arrius and kings with the help of EP. Then we got pushed to our gates, again. One guildgroup of 10-15 can not win against 2-3 full organized farming raids. I don't whine about people zerging, sometimes i point out the obvious. Your own GM agreed and told me he is aware of his zerg even lol. The insulting comments is no surprise coming from you and speaks for itself and your maturity level. ^_^olemanwinter wrote: »Is this the Azura QQ thread? Okay cool.
So, I defending Ash against a ton of AD and we were doing a great defense. 2 counter siege for every siege out there. It took them probably 25 minutes to breach the outer. And when they rush in.....everyone lags and DCs. We come back to a lost cause.
So, whoever is to blame. Zos, EP on the other side of the map, the AD that we were fighting. Talos just hates DC (yeah I know Talos isn't around yet..whatevs)....you suck.
The AD currently on Azura are a league of revenge squads. They're doing what ep has done to TB and Chillrend. Dc is just caught in the middle. Ad will force everyone off Azura and it will be a perma yellow map.
Then ad and ep will come to these forums and QQ hard about how there is no competetive campaigns and they can't find anyone to play with.
People are going to mass quit pvp. And it will be OUR fault. It won't matter how ZOS has failed the servers and neglected the issues. Player behavior is the root of the problem.
Not every yellow wants to smash the competition in so that they leave the server. Don't lump us in with that loud idiot that posted that thread recently, he speaks only for himself.
I'd Agree with this twice if I could
OTOH, maybe we could all agree to try to keep competition alive by avoiding things like gate camping, pushing a faction's last keeps, painting the whole map one color, etc. ?
I believe I read earlier in this thread from DC people that they feel these tactics are acceptable for them to employ because it has been done to them, and because DC has had it very rough.
I understand that, but I also remember it is the exact same thing that EP said to AD when we complained about them doing it to us, and we all saw how that turned out.
It's a vicious circle, we've all been gate camped, every faction has at one time or another, on one server or another, been zerged down and crushed, and every faction has been guilty of it too. If we keep excusing these tactics by saying "Well, it's fair bc they've been doing it to us," then it will never stop.
Maybe you should actually log on and see what your own guild is/has been doing then take your own advice. What you say is true but you have no credibility when you have recently bashed Havoc saying ''which is why you have to farm level 45s at their gates, I suppose- you can't do stuff like that without losing a lot of respect from the community and other guilds... it just makes your whole guild seem egotistical and unpleasant.'' Keep saying the ''right'' things when it suits your agenda.I guess AD doesn't watch GoT?!What yesterday proved was GoT > ESO
You can say anything you want about Decibel, God knows we've farmed gates ( never for too long, the core members get bored real fast), but Winnie is the first person to leave group or push us not to take that last keep or scroll. And many times we have actually left the map without talking a single scroll cuz blue or red have low pop. What happened last night was another thing entirely, you guys had 3 bars and acording to Agrippa farmed the many AD there. Better be informed before you make stupid accusations, little dog! Also please have the decency to not whine about other people zerging, makes you look even more stupid.
Speaking of maturity, why do you always mock our guild name and misspell my name? I don't see eye to eye with you or your guild on everything, but I do give you the respect of getting your names right, hell, I even said that Havoc is talented, and I've defended you many times on the forums against "lagsploitation" accusations, because I don't think they're fair.
As for Decibel camping gates, I don't approve, tea pot is correct, I leave group if we even attack a faction's last keeps, drives WRX nuts, but it's just not my scene. But, these are my personal beliefs, I'm not the GM of Deci, I don't lead raids, and I can't make the whole group do what I want them to do. Aside from all that, I've been away for the past couple of weeks, and I hardly see how you can blame me for what happens when I'm not even there.Back on topic, I'm rly confused at the AD guild stack. it's wierd cuz Pact guilds are all spread out atm, but if it keeps up we will definitely see more of them converging to Azura.
If everyone would just stay put now and let it happen, we could have are rise of a new main server here! I'm just worried that the second opposition shows up in force, everyone's gonna scatter again and restack elsewhere. Cuz that seems to be the pattern.
Ve, nexus and havoc and lord knows who else all showing on Azura. So where is this "spread"? Who is left on Chill? Not arguing. I really am curious.
VE is homed Chillrend, that's where we spend our time mostly. We come to Azuras when action is low or on request, but we don't put time into points or controlling the map. As far as I know Nexus and Havoc don't spend their full time there either, much less the other EP guilds.
Don't get me wrong I'm all for it, we all want a new Thornblade to invest in and fight for. Just seems whenever we do that, all the competition leaves and restack a elsewhere
We leave because the server can't handle all of us being there, do you remember the lag on Thorn after 1.6 came out? We only played there maybe twice before we decided to rehome. It was bad, it was beyond bad, keep takes were like watching abnormally long powerpoint presentations. I was actually missing the FPS bug. And that wasn't even all of the main guilds, Misfitz, Alacrity, DiE, they were all on Chill already.
We all want that one big server with all the main guilds fighting each other again, but we can't get anywhere near that now without the lag becoming unplayable, and then people rage quit group, or stop playing, or just blame everyone else for it, it sucks.
Maybe if we could get it down to like, one main guild per faction on each campaign? That might be workable server-wise, but Idk how we'd actually get people to agree to do it.
If everyone knows the server can't handle it why is AD stacking the server with multiple raids. That's why people are going there, because there are so many AD.
I agree.
We need to spread out.
I don't know what all lead to the AD guild stack on Azuras, I'm in Morocco
Deciblob is just the norm on EP side. I haven't even written your name and i have no idea how my maturity level is based of me misspelling it lol. How you think i would know you are in Morocco and been gone for weeks, i have no clue. What i do know is that you are a Deci-Officer, talking about the negatives of gatecamping while your guild is actively doing it. You also talk about how your guild didn't play on Thornblade because of stacking of AD guilds and how it affected the server, yet deci is in Azura with 3-4 other AD guilds. Nothing more, nothing less. It speaks for itself.
I didn't expect you to know I was in Morocco, that's why I told you. I was explaining that not only was I not involved in any gate camping, I haven't been there for the past two weeks at all because I have been away, so whatever Decibel has done in that time, you'll need to take up with someone else.
And I did not say that we left Thorn because of AD guild stacking affecting the server, I said that even without the other AD guilds there, the server couldn't handle all the organized groups. Which is why all the guilds can't be on one server, not just the AD guilds.
You don't seem to understand and i'll repeat myself, only reason why i'm taking it up with you is because you say gatecamping is bad, stacking AD guilds in one server is bad, misquoted my guildies to put us in a bad light, you've insulted my guild in the past falsely claiming we camp lvl 45's at the gates of Thorn, and the guild you are officer in is actively doing it in Azura. Any guild can do whatever they please, but the moment i hear sheer hypocrisy is the moment i react. I'm not blaming you for what your guild is doing, just, adding up all these things makes you seem clueless, and not agree with alot of what your guild is currently doing.I am sure EP made fine points farming the AD that let them die to siege. I was telling people to go get kills on them actually so we would have had people to fight still.
As for that scroll Agrippa, we could have farmed that for as long as we would of liked honestly, but felt poorly about doing so and decided instead to give it back to red and just continue to fight in the gate. We have no interest in the scroll. If your AP was as good as ours I would be impressed. Finally broke 100k+/hr in that gate.
As for emma, you guys farmed PvE players with trebs in the respawn, then came to the forums saying how it was "planet havoc" and tons of other things. We were fighting multiple organized groups behind there, and still believe it to be poor sportsmanship. I also have video last night of you guys attempting to take chalman with your 15 or so and another raid of 24, only to get wiped by our 15. Much of yesterday the "Deciblob" was capped at 16 or 18, but then we got some tells saying how you were coming to dethrone with xyz soo decided to crank it up. Seemed to work.
Anyways, if anyone remembers the EP buff server azura's was going to be day 1, I am sure we would be having a different conversation. But as I said, we will be looking other places for fights now as well. Should be fun.
We took chalman only to keep AD pressure off Farragut to close our gates which obviously worked. I jokingly wrote Manoe that we would dethrone while GoT was running and then send book spoilers to your guild... LOLS. Didn't know you would take it seriously
I see little hypocrisy here. We aren't calling it planet havok, or saying we are the best, or farming low level PvE players, or running around gloating about anything of last night. We were so damn bored just proxy deting everyone to death lol. The worst thing you can say we did was open field the other guilds in the game in a gate temple.
We here at Decibel are kind-hearted righteous men and women, that do kind acts such as return scrolls and build large ticks so others can enjoy in the glory of the AP.
So, which kind and gentle AD guild decided to knock every single wall, door, and roof open at Kingscrest?
That one would be the sinister and diabolical guild of the Tamriel Knights. From what the banner said at the keep, they have a keep wrecking crew in hopes that the kingscrest keep will never be rebuilt and simply a thing of the past.
I am sure though that the vigorous and determined EP will band together as one to reform their destroyed land, and perhaps return the favor to the keep owners.
Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »You can say anything you want, it's simply ironic seeing Deciblob members telling people to stop gatecamping, bash other guilds for doing it (which never really took place) and then that exact guild is doing it every night for the last couple of days. My guild took chalman, lost it for farra, took arrius and kings with the help of EP. Then we got pushed to our gates, again. One guildgroup of 10-15 can not win against 2-3 full organized farming raids. I don't whine about people zerging, sometimes i point out the obvious. Your own GM agreed and told me he is aware of his zerg even lol. The insulting comments is no surprise coming from you and speaks for itself and your maturity level. ^_^olemanwinter wrote: »Is this the Azura QQ thread? Okay cool.
So, I defending Ash against a ton of AD and we were doing a great defense. 2 counter siege for every siege out there. It took them probably 25 minutes to breach the outer. And when they rush in.....everyone lags and DCs. We come back to a lost cause.
So, whoever is to blame. Zos, EP on the other side of the map, the AD that we were fighting. Talos just hates DC (yeah I know Talos isn't around yet..whatevs)....you suck.
The AD currently on Azura are a league of revenge squads. They're doing what ep has done to TB and Chillrend. Dc is just caught in the middle. Ad will force everyone off Azura and it will be a perma yellow map.
Then ad and ep will come to these forums and QQ hard about how there is no competetive campaigns and they can't find anyone to play with.
People are going to mass quit pvp. And it will be OUR fault. It won't matter how ZOS has failed the servers and neglected the issues. Player behavior is the root of the problem.
Not every yellow wants to smash the competition in so that they leave the server. Don't lump us in with that loud idiot that posted that thread recently, he speaks only for himself.
I'd Agree with this twice if I could
OTOH, maybe we could all agree to try to keep competition alive by avoiding things like gate camping, pushing a faction's last keeps, painting the whole map one color, etc. ?
I believe I read earlier in this thread from DC people that they feel these tactics are acceptable for them to employ because it has been done to them, and because DC has had it very rough.
I understand that, but I also remember it is the exact same thing that EP said to AD when we complained about them doing it to us, and we all saw how that turned out.
It's a vicious circle, we've all been gate camped, every faction has at one time or another, on one server or another, been zerged down and crushed, and every faction has been guilty of it too. If we keep excusing these tactics by saying "Well, it's fair bc they've been doing it to us," then it will never stop.
Maybe you should actually log on and see what your own guild is/has been doing then take your own advice. What you say is true but you have no credibility when you have recently bashed Havoc saying ''which is why you have to farm level 45s at their gates, I suppose- you can't do stuff like that without losing a lot of respect from the community and other guilds... it just makes your whole guild seem egotistical and unpleasant.'' Keep saying the ''right'' things when it suits your agenda.I guess AD doesn't watch GoT?!What yesterday proved was GoT > ESO
You can say anything you want about Decibel, God knows we've farmed gates ( never for too long, the core members get bored real fast), but Winnie is the first person to leave group or push us not to take that last keep or scroll. And many times we have actually left the map without talking a single scroll cuz blue or red have low pop. What happened last night was another thing entirely, you guys had 3 bars and acording to Agrippa farmed the many AD there. Better be informed before you make stupid accusations, little dog! Also please have the decency to not whine about other people zerging, makes you look even more stupid.
Speaking of maturity, why do you always mock our guild name and misspell my name? I don't see eye to eye with you or your guild on everything, but I do give you the respect of getting your names right, hell, I even said that Havoc is talented, and I've defended you many times on the forums against "lagsploitation" accusations, because I don't think they're fair.
As for Decibel camping gates, I don't approve, tea pot is correct, I leave group if we even attack a faction's last keeps, drives WRX nuts, but it's just not my scene. But, these are my personal beliefs, I'm not the GM of Deci, I don't lead raids, and I can't make the whole group do what I want them to do. Aside from all that, I've been away for the past couple of weeks, and I hardly see how you can blame me for what happens when I'm not even there.Back on topic, I'm rly confused at the AD guild stack. it's wierd cuz Pact guilds are all spread out atm, but if it keeps up we will definitely see more of them converging to Azura.
If everyone would just stay put now and let it happen, we could have are rise of a new main server here! I'm just worried that the second opposition shows up in force, everyone's gonna scatter again and restack elsewhere. Cuz that seems to be the pattern.
Ve, nexus and havoc and lord knows who else all showing on Azura. So where is this "spread"? Who is left on Chill? Not arguing. I really am curious.
VE is homed Chillrend, that's where we spend our time mostly. We come to Azuras when action is low or on request, but we don't put time into points or controlling the map. As far as I know Nexus and Havoc don't spend their full time there either, much less the other EP guilds.
Don't get me wrong I'm all for it, we all want a new Thornblade to invest in and fight for. Just seems whenever we do that, all the competition leaves and restack a elsewhere
We leave because the server can't handle all of us being there, do you remember the lag on Thorn after 1.6 came out? We only played there maybe twice before we decided to rehome. It was bad, it was beyond bad, keep takes were like watching abnormally long powerpoint presentations. I was actually missing the FPS bug. And that wasn't even all of the main guilds, Misfitz, Alacrity, DiE, they were all on Chill already.
We all want that one big server with all the main guilds fighting each other again, but we can't get anywhere near that now without the lag becoming unplayable, and then people rage quit group, or stop playing, or just blame everyone else for it, it sucks.
Maybe if we could get it down to like, one main guild per faction on each campaign? That might be workable server-wise, but Idk how we'd actually get people to agree to do it.
If everyone knows the server can't handle it why is AD stacking the server with multiple raids. That's why people are going there, because there are so many AD.
I agree.
We need to spread out.
I don't know what all lead to the AD guild stack on Azuras, I'm in Morocco
Deciblob is just the norm on EP side. I haven't even written your name and i have no idea how my maturity level is based of me misspelling it lol. How you think i would know you are in Morocco and been gone for weeks, i have no clue. What i do know is that you are a Deci-Officer, talking about the negatives of gatecamping while your guild is actively doing it. You also talk about how your guild didn't play on Thornblade because of stacking of AD guilds and how it affected the server, yet deci is in Azura with 3-4 other AD guilds. Nothing more, nothing less. It speaks for itself.
I didn't expect you to know I was in Morocco, that's why I told you. I was explaining that not only was I not involved in any gate camping, I haven't been there for the past two weeks at all because I have been away, so whatever Decibel has done in that time, you'll need to take up with someone else.
And I did not say that we left Thorn because of AD guild stacking affecting the server, I said that even without the other AD guilds there, the server couldn't handle all the organized groups. Which is why all the guilds can't be on one server, not just the AD guilds.
You don't seem to understand and i'll repeat myself, only reason why i'm taking it up with you is because you say gatecamping is bad, stacking AD guilds in one server is bad, misquoted my guildies to put us in a bad light, you've insulted my guild in the past falsely claiming we camp lvl 45's at the gates of Thorn, and the guild you are officer in is actively doing it in Azura. Any guild can do whatever they please, but the moment i hear sheer hypocrisy is the moment i react. I'm not blaming you for what your guild is doing, just, adding up all these things makes you seem clueless, and not agree with alot of what your guild is currently doing.I am sure EP made fine points farming the AD that let them die to siege. I was telling people to go get kills on them actually so we would have had people to fight still.
As for that scroll Agrippa, we could have farmed that for as long as we would of liked honestly, but felt poorly about doing so and decided instead to give it back to red and just continue to fight in the gate. We have no interest in the scroll. If your AP was as good as ours I would be impressed. Finally broke 100k+/hr in that gate.
As for emma, you guys farmed PvE players with trebs in the respawn, then came to the forums saying how it was "planet havoc" and tons of other things. We were fighting multiple organized groups behind there, and still believe it to be poor sportsmanship. I also have video last night of you guys attempting to take chalman with your 15 or so and another raid of 24, only to get wiped by our 15. Much of yesterday the "Deciblob" was capped at 16 or 18, but then we got some tells saying how you were coming to dethrone with xyz soo decided to crank it up. Seemed to work.
Anyways, if anyone remembers the EP buff server azura's was going to be day 1, I am sure we would be having a different conversation. But as I said, we will be looking other places for fights now as well. Should be fun.
We took chalman only to keep AD pressure off Farragut to close our gates which obviously worked. I jokingly wrote Manoe that we would dethrone while GoT was running and then send book spoilers to your guild... LOLS. Didn't know you would take it seriously
I see little hypocrisy here. We aren't calling it planet havok, or saying we are the best, or farming low level PvE players, or running around gloating about anything of last night. We were so damn bored just proxy deting everyone to death lol. The worst thing you can say we did was open field the other guilds in the game in a gate temple.
We here at Decibel are kind-hearted righteous men and women, that do kind acts such as return scrolls and build large ticks so others can enjoy in the glory of the AP.
So, which kind and gentle AD guild decided to knock every single wall, door, and roof open at Kingscrest?
That one would be the sinister and diabolical guild of the Tamriel Knights. From what the banner said at the keep, they have a keep wrecking crew in hopes that the kingscrest keep will never be rebuilt and simply a thing of the past.
I am sure though that the vigorous and determined EP will band together as one to reform their destroyed land, and perhaps return the favor to the keep owners.
All_Bizniz wrote: »Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »You can say anything you want, it's simply ironic seeing Deciblob members telling people to stop gatecamping, bash other guilds for doing it (which never really took place) and then that exact guild is doing it every night for the last couple of days. My guild took chalman, lost it for farra, took arrius and kings with the help of EP. Then we got pushed to our gates, again. One guildgroup of 10-15 can not win against 2-3 full organized farming raids. I don't whine about people zerging, sometimes i point out the obvious. Your own GM agreed and told me he is aware of his zerg even lol. The insulting comments is no surprise coming from you and speaks for itself and your maturity level. ^_^olemanwinter wrote: »Is this the Azura QQ thread? Okay cool.
So, I defending Ash against a ton of AD and we were doing a great defense. 2 counter siege for every siege out there. It took them probably 25 minutes to breach the outer. And when they rush in.....everyone lags and DCs. We come back to a lost cause.
So, whoever is to blame. Zos, EP on the other side of the map, the AD that we were fighting. Talos just hates DC (yeah I know Talos isn't around yet..whatevs)....you suck.
The AD currently on Azura are a league of revenge squads. They're doing what ep has done to TB and Chillrend. Dc is just caught in the middle. Ad will force everyone off Azura and it will be a perma yellow map.
Then ad and ep will come to these forums and QQ hard about how there is no competetive campaigns and they can't find anyone to play with.
People are going to mass quit pvp. And it will be OUR fault. It won't matter how ZOS has failed the servers and neglected the issues. Player behavior is the root of the problem.
Not every yellow wants to smash the competition in so that they leave the server. Don't lump us in with that loud idiot that posted that thread recently, he speaks only for himself.
I'd Agree with this twice if I could
OTOH, maybe we could all agree to try to keep competition alive by avoiding things like gate camping, pushing a faction's last keeps, painting the whole map one color, etc. ?
I believe I read earlier in this thread from DC people that they feel these tactics are acceptable for them to employ because it has been done to them, and because DC has had it very rough.
I understand that, but I also remember it is the exact same thing that EP said to AD when we complained about them doing it to us, and we all saw how that turned out.
It's a vicious circle, we've all been gate camped, every faction has at one time or another, on one server or another, been zerged down and crushed, and every faction has been guilty of it too. If we keep excusing these tactics by saying "Well, it's fair bc they've been doing it to us," then it will never stop.
Maybe you should actually log on and see what your own guild is/has been doing then take your own advice. What you say is true but you have no credibility when you have recently bashed Havoc saying ''which is why you have to farm level 45s at their gates, I suppose- you can't do stuff like that without losing a lot of respect from the community and other guilds... it just makes your whole guild seem egotistical and unpleasant.'' Keep saying the ''right'' things when it suits your agenda.I guess AD doesn't watch GoT?!What yesterday proved was GoT > ESO
You can say anything you want about Decibel, God knows we've farmed gates ( never for too long, the core members get bored real fast), but Winnie is the first person to leave group or push us not to take that last keep or scroll. And many times we have actually left the map without talking a single scroll cuz blue or red have low pop. What happened last night was another thing entirely, you guys had 3 bars and acording to Agrippa farmed the many AD there. Better be informed before you make stupid accusations, little dog! Also please have the decency to not whine about other people zerging, makes you look even more stupid.
Speaking of maturity, why do you always mock our guild name and misspell my name? I don't see eye to eye with you or your guild on everything, but I do give you the respect of getting your names right, hell, I even said that Havoc is talented, and I've defended you many times on the forums against "lagsploitation" accusations, because I don't think they're fair.
As for Decibel camping gates, I don't approve, tea pot is correct, I leave group if we even attack a faction's last keeps, drives WRX nuts, but it's just not my scene. But, these are my personal beliefs, I'm not the GM of Deci, I don't lead raids, and I can't make the whole group do what I want them to do. Aside from all that, I've been away for the past couple of weeks, and I hardly see how you can blame me for what happens when I'm not even there.Back on topic, I'm rly confused at the AD guild stack. it's wierd cuz Pact guilds are all spread out atm, but if it keeps up we will definitely see more of them converging to Azura.
If everyone would just stay put now and let it happen, we could have are rise of a new main server here! I'm just worried that the second opposition shows up in force, everyone's gonna scatter again and restack elsewhere. Cuz that seems to be the pattern.
Ve, nexus and havoc and lord knows who else all showing on Azura. So where is this "spread"? Who is left on Chill? Not arguing. I really am curious.
VE is homed Chillrend, that's where we spend our time mostly. We come to Azuras when action is low or on request, but we don't put time into points or controlling the map. As far as I know Nexus and Havoc don't spend their full time there either, much less the other EP guilds.
Don't get me wrong I'm all for it, we all want a new Thornblade to invest in and fight for. Just seems whenever we do that, all the competition leaves and restack a elsewhere
We leave because the server can't handle all of us being there, do you remember the lag on Thorn after 1.6 came out? We only played there maybe twice before we decided to rehome. It was bad, it was beyond bad, keep takes were like watching abnormally long powerpoint presentations. I was actually missing the FPS bug. And that wasn't even all of the main guilds, Misfitz, Alacrity, DiE, they were all on Chill already.
We all want that one big server with all the main guilds fighting each other again, but we can't get anywhere near that now without the lag becoming unplayable, and then people rage quit group, or stop playing, or just blame everyone else for it, it sucks.
Maybe if we could get it down to like, one main guild per faction on each campaign? That might be workable server-wise, but Idk how we'd actually get people to agree to do it.
If everyone knows the server can't handle it why is AD stacking the server with multiple raids. That's why people are going there, because there are so many AD.
I agree.
We need to spread out.
I don't know what all lead to the AD guild stack on Azuras, I'm in Morocco
Deciblob is just the norm on EP side. I haven't even written your name and i have no idea how my maturity level is based of me misspelling it lol. How you think i would know you are in Morocco and been gone for weeks, i have no clue. What i do know is that you are a Deci-Officer, talking about the negatives of gatecamping while your guild is actively doing it. You also talk about how your guild didn't play on Thornblade because of stacking of AD guilds and how it affected the server, yet deci is in Azura with 3-4 other AD guilds. Nothing more, nothing less. It speaks for itself.
I didn't expect you to know I was in Morocco, that's why I told you. I was explaining that not only was I not involved in any gate camping, I haven't been there for the past two weeks at all because I have been away, so whatever Decibel has done in that time, you'll need to take up with someone else.
And I did not say that we left Thorn because of AD guild stacking affecting the server, I said that even without the other AD guilds there, the server couldn't handle all the organized groups. Which is why all the guilds can't be on one server, not just the AD guilds.
You don't seem to understand and i'll repeat myself, only reason why i'm taking it up with you is because you say gatecamping is bad, stacking AD guilds in one server is bad, misquoted my guildies to put us in a bad light, you've insulted my guild in the past falsely claiming we camp lvl 45's at the gates of Thorn, and the guild you are officer in is actively doing it in Azura. Any guild can do whatever they please, but the moment i hear sheer hypocrisy is the moment i react. I'm not blaming you for what your guild is doing, just, adding up all these things makes you seem clueless, and not agree with alot of what your guild is currently doing.I am sure EP made fine points farming the AD that let them die to siege. I was telling people to go get kills on them actually so we would have had people to fight still.
As for that scroll Agrippa, we could have farmed that for as long as we would of liked honestly, but felt poorly about doing so and decided instead to give it back to red and just continue to fight in the gate. We have no interest in the scroll. If your AP was as good as ours I would be impressed. Finally broke 100k+/hr in that gate.
As for emma, you guys farmed PvE players with trebs in the respawn, then came to the forums saying how it was "planet havoc" and tons of other things. We were fighting multiple organized groups behind there, and still believe it to be poor sportsmanship. I also have video last night of you guys attempting to take chalman with your 15 or so and another raid of 24, only to get wiped by our 15. Much of yesterday the "Deciblob" was capped at 16 or 18, but then we got some tells saying how you were coming to dethrone with xyz soo decided to crank it up. Seemed to work.
Anyways, if anyone remembers the EP buff server azura's was going to be day 1, I am sure we would be having a different conversation. But as I said, we will be looking other places for fights now as well. Should be fun.
We took chalman only to keep AD pressure off Farragut to close our gates which obviously worked. I jokingly wrote Manoe that we would dethrone while GoT was running and then send book spoilers to your guild... LOLS. Didn't know you would take it seriously
I see little hypocrisy here. We aren't calling it planet havok, or saying we are the best, or farming low level PvE players, or running around gloating about anything of last night. We were so damn bored just proxy deting everyone to death lol. The worst thing you can say we did was open field the other guilds in the game in a gate temple.
We here at Decibel are kind-hearted righteous men and women, that do kind acts such as return scrolls and build large ticks so others can enjoy in the glory of the AP.
So, which kind and gentle AD guild decided to knock every single wall, door, and roof open at Kingscrest?
That one would be the sinister and diabolical guild of the Tamriel Knights. From what the banner said at the keep, they have a keep wrecking crew in hopes that the kingscrest keep will never be rebuilt and simply a thing of the past.
I am sure though that the vigorous and determined EP will band together as one to reform their destroyed land, and perhaps return the favor to the keep owners.
LOL @WRX. You have one good night because your group was FREAKING HUGE and you're 'touchdown dancing on the threads.' LuLz! Glad you and your friends can feel what victory feels like.
P.S. there was only 11 in our group for the bleakers/chalman capture.
All_Bizniz wrote: »Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »You can say anything you want, it's simply ironic seeing Deciblob members telling people to stop gatecamping, bash other guilds for doing it (which never really took place) and then that exact guild is doing it every night for the last couple of days. My guild took chalman, lost it for farra, took arrius and kings with the help of EP. Then we got pushed to our gates, again. One guildgroup of 10-15 can not win against 2-3 full organized farming raids. I don't whine about people zerging, sometimes i point out the obvious. Your own GM agreed and told me he is aware of his zerg even lol. The insulting comments is no surprise coming from you and speaks for itself and your maturity level. ^_^olemanwinter wrote: »Is this the Azura QQ thread? Okay cool.
So, I defending Ash against a ton of AD and we were doing a great defense. 2 counter siege for every siege out there. It took them probably 25 minutes to breach the outer. And when they rush in.....everyone lags and DCs. We come back to a lost cause.
So, whoever is to blame. Zos, EP on the other side of the map, the AD that we were fighting. Talos just hates DC (yeah I know Talos isn't around yet..whatevs)....you suck.
The AD currently on Azura are a league of revenge squads. They're doing what ep has done to TB and Chillrend. Dc is just caught in the middle. Ad will force everyone off Azura and it will be a perma yellow map.
Then ad and ep will come to these forums and QQ hard about how there is no competetive campaigns and they can't find anyone to play with.
People are going to mass quit pvp. And it will be OUR fault. It won't matter how ZOS has failed the servers and neglected the issues. Player behavior is the root of the problem.
Not every yellow wants to smash the competition in so that they leave the server. Don't lump us in with that loud idiot that posted that thread recently, he speaks only for himself.
I'd Agree with this twice if I could
OTOH, maybe we could all agree to try to keep competition alive by avoiding things like gate camping, pushing a faction's last keeps, painting the whole map one color, etc. ?
I believe I read earlier in this thread from DC people that they feel these tactics are acceptable for them to employ because it has been done to them, and because DC has had it very rough.
I understand that, but I also remember it is the exact same thing that EP said to AD when we complained about them doing it to us, and we all saw how that turned out.
It's a vicious circle, we've all been gate camped, every faction has at one time or another, on one server or another, been zerged down and crushed, and every faction has been guilty of it too. If we keep excusing these tactics by saying "Well, it's fair bc they've been doing it to us," then it will never stop.
Maybe you should actually log on and see what your own guild is/has been doing then take your own advice. What you say is true but you have no credibility when you have recently bashed Havoc saying ''which is why you have to farm level 45s at their gates, I suppose- you can't do stuff like that without losing a lot of respect from the community and other guilds... it just makes your whole guild seem egotistical and unpleasant.'' Keep saying the ''right'' things when it suits your agenda.I guess AD doesn't watch GoT?!What yesterday proved was GoT > ESO
You can say anything you want about Decibel, God knows we've farmed gates ( never for too long, the core members get bored real fast), but Winnie is the first person to leave group or push us not to take that last keep or scroll. And many times we have actually left the map without talking a single scroll cuz blue or red have low pop. What happened last night was another thing entirely, you guys had 3 bars and acording to Agrippa farmed the many AD there. Better be informed before you make stupid accusations, little dog! Also please have the decency to not whine about other people zerging, makes you look even more stupid.
Speaking of maturity, why do you always mock our guild name and misspell my name? I don't see eye to eye with you or your guild on everything, but I do give you the respect of getting your names right, hell, I even said that Havoc is talented, and I've defended you many times on the forums against "lagsploitation" accusations, because I don't think they're fair.
As for Decibel camping gates, I don't approve, tea pot is correct, I leave group if we even attack a faction's last keeps, drives WRX nuts, but it's just not my scene. But, these are my personal beliefs, I'm not the GM of Deci, I don't lead raids, and I can't make the whole group do what I want them to do. Aside from all that, I've been away for the past couple of weeks, and I hardly see how you can blame me for what happens when I'm not even there.Back on topic, I'm rly confused at the AD guild stack. it's wierd cuz Pact guilds are all spread out atm, but if it keeps up we will definitely see more of them converging to Azura.
If everyone would just stay put now and let it happen, we could have are rise of a new main server here! I'm just worried that the second opposition shows up in force, everyone's gonna scatter again and restack elsewhere. Cuz that seems to be the pattern.
Ve, nexus and havoc and lord knows who else all showing on Azura. So where is this "spread"? Who is left on Chill? Not arguing. I really am curious.
VE is homed Chillrend, that's where we spend our time mostly. We come to Azuras when action is low or on request, but we don't put time into points or controlling the map. As far as I know Nexus and Havoc don't spend their full time there either, much less the other EP guilds.
Don't get me wrong I'm all for it, we all want a new Thornblade to invest in and fight for. Just seems whenever we do that, all the competition leaves and restack a elsewhere
We leave because the server can't handle all of us being there, do you remember the lag on Thorn after 1.6 came out? We only played there maybe twice before we decided to rehome. It was bad, it was beyond bad, keep takes were like watching abnormally long powerpoint presentations. I was actually missing the FPS bug. And that wasn't even all of the main guilds, Misfitz, Alacrity, DiE, they were all on Chill already.
We all want that one big server with all the main guilds fighting each other again, but we can't get anywhere near that now without the lag becoming unplayable, and then people rage quit group, or stop playing, or just blame everyone else for it, it sucks.
Maybe if we could get it down to like, one main guild per faction on each campaign? That might be workable server-wise, but Idk how we'd actually get people to agree to do it.
If everyone knows the server can't handle it why is AD stacking the server with multiple raids. That's why people are going there, because there are so many AD.
I agree.
We need to spread out.
I don't know what all lead to the AD guild stack on Azuras, I'm in Morocco
Deciblob is just the norm on EP side. I haven't even written your name and i have no idea how my maturity level is based of me misspelling it lol. How you think i would know you are in Morocco and been gone for weeks, i have no clue. What i do know is that you are a Deci-Officer, talking about the negatives of gatecamping while your guild is actively doing it. You also talk about how your guild didn't play on Thornblade because of stacking of AD guilds and how it affected the server, yet deci is in Azura with 3-4 other AD guilds. Nothing more, nothing less. It speaks for itself.
I didn't expect you to know I was in Morocco, that's why I told you. I was explaining that not only was I not involved in any gate camping, I haven't been there for the past two weeks at all because I have been away, so whatever Decibel has done in that time, you'll need to take up with someone else.
And I did not say that we left Thorn because of AD guild stacking affecting the server, I said that even without the other AD guilds there, the server couldn't handle all the organized groups. Which is why all the guilds can't be on one server, not just the AD guilds.
You don't seem to understand and i'll repeat myself, only reason why i'm taking it up with you is because you say gatecamping is bad, stacking AD guilds in one server is bad, misquoted my guildies to put us in a bad light, you've insulted my guild in the past falsely claiming we camp lvl 45's at the gates of Thorn, and the guild you are officer in is actively doing it in Azura. Any guild can do whatever they please, but the moment i hear sheer hypocrisy is the moment i react. I'm not blaming you for what your guild is doing, just, adding up all these things makes you seem clueless, and not agree with alot of what your guild is currently doing.I am sure EP made fine points farming the AD that let them die to siege. I was telling people to go get kills on them actually so we would have had people to fight still.
As for that scroll Agrippa, we could have farmed that for as long as we would of liked honestly, but felt poorly about doing so and decided instead to give it back to red and just continue to fight in the gate. We have no interest in the scroll. If your AP was as good as ours I would be impressed. Finally broke 100k+/hr in that gate.
As for emma, you guys farmed PvE players with trebs in the respawn, then came to the forums saying how it was "planet havoc" and tons of other things. We were fighting multiple organized groups behind there, and still believe it to be poor sportsmanship. I also have video last night of you guys attempting to take chalman with your 15 or so and another raid of 24, only to get wiped by our 15. Much of yesterday the "Deciblob" was capped at 16 or 18, but then we got some tells saying how you were coming to dethrone with xyz soo decided to crank it up. Seemed to work.
Anyways, if anyone remembers the EP buff server azura's was going to be day 1, I am sure we would be having a different conversation. But as I said, we will be looking other places for fights now as well. Should be fun.
We took chalman only to keep AD pressure off Farragut to close our gates which obviously worked. I jokingly wrote Manoe that we would dethrone while GoT was running and then send book spoilers to your guild... LOLS. Didn't know you would take it seriously
I see little hypocrisy here. We aren't calling it planet havok, or saying we are the best, or farming low level PvE players, or running around gloating about anything of last night. We were so damn bored just proxy deting everyone to death lol. The worst thing you can say we did was open field the other guilds in the game in a gate temple.
We here at Decibel are kind-hearted righteous men and women, that do kind acts such as return scrolls and build large ticks so others can enjoy in the glory of the AP.
So, which kind and gentle AD guild decided to knock every single wall, door, and roof open at Kingscrest?
That one would be the sinister and diabolical guild of the Tamriel Knights. From what the banner said at the keep, they have a keep wrecking crew in hopes that the kingscrest keep will never be rebuilt and simply a thing of the past.
I am sure though that the vigorous and determined EP will band together as one to reform their destroyed land, and perhaps return the favor to the keep owners.
LOL @WRX. You have one good night because your group was FREAKING HUGE and you're 'touchdown dancing on the threads.' LuLz! Glad you and your friends can feel what victory feels like.
P.S. there was only 11 in our group for the bleakers/chalman capture.
This one is innocent, this one knows nothing!
Naw but really, I'm not going to gasp and faint at trash talk. I have a ridiculous number of screenshots at the things people have whispered me back in my ganking days, some of them from people in this thread (and a beauty the other night from AD after the dethrone). If there were a specialized naming and shaming thread I'd post em in a heartbeat.
Until than, /popcorn. Fight! Fight! Fight!really?
I'm legitimately shocked
Your name is waaaay too hard to spell to bother sending you rage tells.
This one is innocent, this one knows nothing!
Naw but really, I'm not going to gasp and faint at trash talk. I have a ridiculous number of screenshots at the things people have whispered me back in my ganking days, some of them from people in this thread (and a beauty the other night from AD after the dethrone). If there were a specialized naming and shaming thread I'd post em in a heartbeat.
Until than, /popcorn. Fight! Fight! Fight!really?
I'm legitimately shocked
Your name is waaaay too hard to spell to bother sending you rage tells.
This one is innocent, this one knows nothing!
Naw but really, I'm not going to gasp and faint at trash talk. I have a ridiculous number of screenshots at the things people have whispered me back in my ganking days, some of them from people in this thread (and a beauty the other night from AD after the dethrone). If there were a specialized naming and shaming thread I'd post em in a heartbeat.
Until than, /popcorn. Fight! Fight! Fight!really?
I'm legitimately shocked
Your name is waaaay too hard to spell to bother sending you rage tells.
@Teargrants gets mad at me, cuz his name is easy to spell but I get all the complaints. And of course I'm not even half the troll he is so they just go to waste on my hard-drive.
And no Agrippa, you may not haz them. Yet. If i ever finish with this game, for a brief moment there will be a most glorious thread full of lovely things people say to me. And then it will be gone... like tears in rain.
This one is innocent, this one knows nothing!
Naw but really, I'm not going to gasp and faint at trash talk. I have a ridiculous number of screenshots at the things people have whispered me back in my ganking days, some of them from people in this thread (and a beauty the other night from AD after the dethrone). If there were a specialized naming and shaming thread I'd post em in a heartbeat.
Until than, /popcorn. Fight! Fight! Fight!really?
I'm legitimately shocked
Your name is waaaay too hard to spell to bother sending you rage tells.
@Teargrants gets mad at me, cuz his name is easy to spell but I get all the complaints. And of course I'm not even half the troll he is so they just go to waste on my hard-drive.
And no Agrippa, you may not haz them. Yet. If i ever finish with this game, for a brief moment there will be a most glorious thread full of lovely things people say to me. And then it will be gone... like tears in rain.
And like an entire page of this thread, is it just me or did we get edited?
I'm honored that because I play on AS all of a sudden Alacrity has a major group here. Thank you all. I had fun last night making it a challenge to get past that gate lol.
Too much hate going on in this thread. People need to just hug it out already.
Simply you all aren't the top dogs anymore and cant stand it and find excuses when you get rolled.
Stay humble and stop all the hate mails and whispers.

I see all this QQ in this thread about massive numbers. Funny thing is when you EP guilds get rolled you blame it on the "we only run grp of 16 max" "you were zerging 2 full grps" Simply you all aren't the top dogs anymore and cant stand it and find excuses when you get rolled. Stay humble and stop all the hate mails and whispers. Oh yea....Katy Peri I heart you!!
This one is innocent, this one knows nothing!
Naw but really, I'm not going to gasp and faint at trash talk. I have a ridiculous number of screenshots at the things people have whispered me back in my ganking days, some of them from people in this thread (and a beauty the other night from AD after the dethrone). If there were a specialized naming and shaming thread I'd post em in a heartbeat.
Until than, /popcorn. Fight! Fight! Fight!really?
I'm legitimately shocked
Your name is waaaay too hard to spell to bother sending you rage tells.
@Teargrants gets mad at me, cuz his name is easy to spell but I get all the complaints. And of course I'm not even half the troll he is so they just go to waste on my hard-drive.
And no Agrippa, you may not haz them. Yet. If i ever finish with this game, for a brief moment there will be a most glorious thread full of lovely things people say to me. And then it will be gone... like tears in rain.
I still don't know why i get them, though. Pretty Nord princesses should not have to hear such rage.
I see all this QQ in this thread about massive numbers. Funny thing is when you EP guilds get rolled you blame it on the "we only run grp of 16 max" "you were zerging 2 full grps" Simply you all aren't the top dogs anymore and cant stand it and find excuses when you get rolled. Stay humble and stop all the hate mails and whispers. Oh yea....Katy Peri I heart you!!
This one is innocent, this one knows nothing!
Naw but really, I'm not going to gasp and faint at trash talk. I have a ridiculous number of screenshots at the things people have whispered me back in my ganking days, some of them from people in this thread (and a beauty the other night from AD after the dethrone). If there were a specialized naming and shaming thread I'd post em in a heartbeat.
Until than, /popcorn. Fight! Fight! Fight!really?
I'm legitimately shocked
Your name is waaaay too hard to spell to bother sending you rage tells.
@Teargrants gets mad at me, cuz his name is easy to spell but I get all the complaints. And of course I'm not even half the troll he is so they just go to waste on my hard-drive.
And no Agrippa, you may not haz them. Yet. If i ever finish with this game, for a brief moment there will be a most glorious thread full of lovely things people say to me. And then it will be gone... like tears in rain.
I still don't know why i get them, though. Pretty Nord princesses should not have to hear such rage.
FENGRUSH has, seen things you people wouldnt believe!