MornaBaine wrote: »I see the following appearing fairly frequently on various posts that have been edited/moderated but not entirely removed:
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Rude Comments]
Edited by ZOS_MichelleA on February 22, 2015 11:06AM
Is this not "naming and shaming," the very thing we are forbidden from doing? Is the offender not already getting a private message from staff regarding the specific moderation? This seems unnecessary to me and possibly just a little hypocritical.
MornaBaine wrote: »I see the following appearing fairly frequently on various posts that have been edited/moderated but not entirely removed:
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Rude Comments]
Edited by ZOS_MichelleA on February 22, 2015 11:06AM
Is this not "naming and shaming," the very thing we are forbidden from doing? Is the offender not already getting a private message from staff regarding the specific moderation? This seems unnecessary to me and possibly just a little hypocritical.
No, It's not naming and shaming, it's transparent moderation. If they didn't put it there, even if they notified the poster, there would be accusations of removing content even in places where they didn't touch it at all. And if they didn't tell the reason, the same thing would occur.
MornaBaine wrote: »MornaBaine wrote: »I see the following appearing fairly frequently on various posts that have been edited/moderated but not entirely removed:
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Rude Comments]
Edited by ZOS_MichelleA on February 22, 2015 11:06AM
Is this not "naming and shaming," the very thing we are forbidden from doing? Is the offender not already getting a private message from staff regarding the specific moderation? This seems unnecessary to me and possibly just a little hypocritical.
No, It's not naming and shaming, it's transparent moderation. If they didn't put it there, even if they notified the poster, there would be accusations of removing content even in places where they didn't touch it at all. And if they didn't tell the reason, the same thing would occur.
If a staff post MUST appear then perhaps it should simply state, "This posted has been edited by Staff." No reason why should be necessary as long as the poster is told privately the details of their infraction.
MornaBaine wrote: »MornaBaine wrote: »I see the following appearing fairly frequently on various posts that have been edited/moderated but not entirely removed:
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Rude Comments]
Edited by ZOS_MichelleA on February 22, 2015 11:06AM
Is this not "naming and shaming," the very thing we are forbidden from doing? Is the offender not already getting a private message from staff regarding the specific moderation? This seems unnecessary to me and possibly just a little hypocritical.
No, It's not naming and shaming, it's transparent moderation. If they didn't put it there, even if they notified the poster, there would be accusations of removing content even in places where they didn't touch it at all. And if they didn't tell the reason, the same thing would occur.
If a staff post MUST appear then perhaps it should simply state, "This posted has been edited by Staff." No reason why should be necessary as long as the poster is told privately the details of their infraction.
Then only the person would know... and accusations would happen. I've seen it before, and it would happen here. Especially when people complain about the moderation they've received. As, the part removed is removed from all quotes, not really sure where the 'naming and shaming' comes from, as there's nothing other than a general pointer to the rules that is there for the removal.
Is it me or has the forum activity recently increased significantly?
Dare I say that it coincides peculiarly with the new forum and/or removal of the LOL button?
I'm hoping ZOS will share a qualitative summary of what they've seen in terms of activity.
@ZOS_GinaBruno, @ZOS_JessicaFolsom, ZOS?
nerevarine1138 wrote: »Well, I doubt they'll be able to share much of that info, but I'd also assume that the increase in activity is from the impending changes coming to the game. Lots of people are coming back.
ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »Well, I doubt they'll be able to share much of that info, but I'd also assume that the increase in activity is from the impending changes coming to the game. Lots of people are coming back.
Your guess is good one! We have seen quite a few people returning for Update 6, and the upcoming Tamriel Unlimited conversion. Lots of new faces, too!
Hey @ZOS_JessicaFolsom any chance NA is getting copied to PTS Tomorrow, even if there's no 1.6.5? There's still tons of testing the NA folks want to do.
Sigh, maybe one of these days, a few years down the road, we'll get a real PTS where we can purchase anything in game for 1g form a central vendor that's already legendary and max level (like many MMO's do) and have the ability to Duel other Players with our own Characters to test things instead of spending forever trying to find People in Cyrodiil and just maybe we'll even have Target Dummies too. The flip flop on PTS is only a bandaid for ZoS not building 2 PTS's or figuring out a way so that all of our Characters can exist on the same PTS at the same time. Hopefully ZoS will bring such basic things to ESO one dayHey @ZOS_JessicaFolsom any chance NA is getting copied to PTS Tomorrow, even if there's no 1.6.5? There's still tons of testing the NA folks want to do.
They already said there will be no more transfers. Doesn't matter that NA's last test week was made hell since we couldn't craft gear above Vr9 and because every *** bag with a two handed weapon was running around one shooting everything on sight.
Sigh, maybe one of these days, a few years down the road, we'll get a real PTS where we can purchase anything in game for 1g form a central vendor that's already legendary and max level (like many MMO's do) and have the ability to Duel other Players with our own Characters to test things instead of spending forever trying to find People in Cyrodiil and just maybe we'll even have Target Dummies too. The flip flop on PTS is only a bandaid for ZoS not building 2 PTS's or figuring out a way so that all of our Characters can exist on the same PTS at the same time. Hopefully ZoS will bring such basic things to ESO one dayHey @ZOS_JessicaFolsom any chance NA is getting copied to PTS Tomorrow, even if there's no 1.6.5? There's still tons of testing the NA folks want to do.
They already said there will be no more transfers. Doesn't matter that NA's last test week was made hell since we couldn't craft gear above Vr9 and because every *** bag with a two handed weapon was running around one shooting everything on sight.
What is the proper amount of emotes required to mark the difference between irony/sarcasm and bannable offense?
Is lore-based hate still allowed? Can we still joke about orcs (pig-children), khajiits (thieves), argonians (slaves), nords (barbarians), altmers (daedra-worshippers), bretons (greedy) and bosmers (cannibals) ?
prototypefb wrote: »what a shame, now i'll have to spend more time actually playing the game...
i'm guessing forums will die out soon after first 100 of Ginas swings.
this is just too harsh, i get it trolls are powerfull in ESO but nerfing them is no fun
anyhow i hope game will be spot on on update 6 and no mor ecomplaints/suggestions will be necessary xD
may i complain we don't have monthly suggestion thread?
Because having the OPTION to buy such gear means he'll be forever prevented from using his 'normal' VR12?Sigh, maybe one of these days, a few years down the road, we'll get a real PTS where we can purchase anything in game for 1g form a central vendor that's already legendary and max level (like many MMO's do) and have the ability to Duel other Players with our own Characters to test things instead of spending forever trying to find People in Cyrodiil and just maybe we'll even have Target Dummies too. The flip flop on PTS is only a bandaid for ZoS not building 2 PTS's or figuring out a way so that all of our Characters can exist on the same PTS at the same time. Hopefully ZoS will bring such basic things to ESO one dayHey @ZOS_JessicaFolsom any chance NA is getting copied to PTS Tomorrow, even if there's no 1.6.5? There's still tons of testing the NA folks want to do.
They already said there will be no more transfers. Doesn't matter that NA's last test week was made hell since we couldn't craft gear above Vr9 and because every *** bag with a two handed weapon was running around one shooting everything on sight.
Why would you want such a vendor? Don't you like running your tests with vr12 gear you are well aware is not optimal for the new game stats? .
And yes, I use the word 'censor' deliberately, because this new regime will, and IMO is likely to be intended to, have a chilling effect on dissent .. Turbine did it with LOTRO and now there's barely a negative word about Turbine or the game due to fear of bans, which have been widely used in the past.
MADshadowman wrote: »@ZOS_GinaBruno here is something constructive that has been ignored by everyone for quite a while now.
Please, actively, respond to this thread, so i can feel like a part of this community.
Thank you very much.
If someone is calling you out and baiting you to try to get you to fight with them, they are violating the community guidelines and you should flag their post.prototypefb wrote: »what a shame, now i'll have to spend more time actually playing the game...
i'm guessing forums will die out soon after first 100 of Ginas swings.
this is just too harsh, i get it trolls are powerfull in ESO but nerfing them is no fun
anyhow i hope game will be spot on on update 6 and no mor ecomplaints/suggestions will be necessary xD
may i complain we don't have monthly suggestion thread?
it is a bit harsh in my opinion.
Now I can't even have an argument with someone... its a public forum.... in an M rated game; most of us are adults or have the mindset to take the posts to be expected on these forums.
If someone calls me out, I have to keep my mouth shut or I will get banned... thats not cool in my book;
the forums were fun for me for a time, but now... idk:/
ok, enough with my dramatic posts, this is not all about me:)
carry on:)
Because having the OPTION to buy such gear means he'll be forever prevented from using his 'normal' VR12?Sigh, maybe one of these days, a few years down the road, we'll get a real PTS where we can purchase anything in game for 1g form a central vendor that's already legendary and max level (like many MMO's do) and have the ability to Duel other Players with our own Characters to test things instead of spending forever trying to find People in Cyrodiil and just maybe we'll even have Target Dummies too. The flip flop on PTS is only a bandaid for ZoS not building 2 PTS's or figuring out a way so that all of our Characters can exist on the same PTS at the same time. Hopefully ZoS will bring such basic things to ESO one dayHey @ZOS_JessicaFolsom any chance NA is getting copied to PTS Tomorrow, even if there's no 1.6.5? There's still tons of testing the NA folks want to do.
They already said there will be no more transfers. Doesn't matter that NA's last test week was made hell since we couldn't craft gear above Vr9 and because every *** bag with a two handed weapon was running around one shooting everything on sight.
Why would you want such a vendor? Don't you like running your tests with vr12 gear you are well aware is not optimal for the new game stats? .
LOL?
If you're going to put forward an objection to this at least try to make it reasonable.
nerevarine1138 wrote: »MADshadowman wrote: »@ZOS_GinaBruno here is something constructive that has been ignored by everyone for quite a while now.
Please, actively, respond to this thread, so i can feel like a part of this community.
Thank you very much.
I think you're missing a link in there somewhere...
ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »Well, I doubt they'll be able to share much of that info, but I'd also assume that the increase in activity is from the impending changes coming to the game. Lots of people are coming back.
Your guess is good one! We have seen quite a few people returning for Update 6, and the upcoming Tamriel Unlimited conversion. Lots of new faces, too!
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hello everyone,
One of the goals of the official ESO forums is to provide a safe, welcoming place for our players and developers to read and talk about the game. We want to foster healthy and constructive discussions, debates and feedback, and with The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited quickly approaching, welcome new and returning players.
Effective immediately, we will be enforcing stricter moderation of the existing rules on our forums, and will be much less tolerant of any type of behavior that hurts everyone’s experience. We will not tolerate trolling, demands, abusive or insulting language toward our community members, developers, company, or ESO itself. Once you receive a warning for any moderation action, you will be suspended for 72 hours on your next offense. Any violation after your suspension will result in a permanent ban from our forums (note that this will not affect your in-game status).
We’d love for everyone to take another look at How to be an ESO Community Hero to really embrace the type of behavior we’d like to see. We also want to encourage you to continue using the Report button for any posts or threads that may require a moderator’s attention. We recognize this may require some adjustments in the way you communicate and interact with each other, but with your help, it will make for a healthier and more constructive community. If there’s any doubt about what you’re about to post, please double check the rules.
Thanks for your continued support and understanding!
Hypertionb14_ESO wrote: »ok, can you do the same for the game itself?
Ignore functions only go so far, and do so much to stem the tide of homophobic, racial slurring, violent, etc chat.
good game community start in the games themselves..