New 2-piece sets and undaunted chests

Homm · November 2014

After some hardcore farming and doing dailies every day, I noticed one thing - Zenimax, what the heck is with the drop? I got like 20 set items from undaunted chests - ALL OF THEM were the wrong ones - medium with magicka, light for tank, heavy with magicka etc - I didn't get a single proper one. But ok, not really a problem cause they can be traded.
But what the *** hell is wrong with the 2-piece items? The drop rate for epaulets is horrid, and when we get them, we get heavy or medium on sorc, tank gets light etc.. There should be an option to trade them for a similar item (no trading for gold, that would be bad!) or change it to a proper type of armor. I know, grinding.. but you can only do it once a day! With my luck it will take me years to get one of the sets I want.
Also, the heads from dungeons.. I got 6 different, not a single light armor - [snip] me right?

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]

Voodoo · November 2014

how about a choice between the three Armour types!

Gyudan · November 2014

I have done all the pledges available on 1 character and received 3 unique shoulders so far:
- Scourge Harvester, light armor, reinforced
- Maw of the Infernal, medium armor, sturdy
- Valkyn Skoria, heavy armor, infused

Quite a few unique heads as well:
- Scourge Harvester, light armor, divines
- Maw of the Infernal, light armor, divines
- Blood Spawn, medium armor, reinforced
- Nerien'Eth, medium armor, impenetrable
- Nightflame, medium armor, sturdy
- Nightflame, heavy armor, sturdy

I think the droprates are appropriate and shouldn't be changed. Keep trying and you'll find something good.

eliisra · November 2014

Yeah, seems like the game keeps close track of your current build and makes sure you get the complete opposite lol.

I've completed every pledge since day one. My templar healer (so far) has 3 medium shoulders with well-fitted/sturdy. Than 2 heavy helms with reinforced. I cant use any of it. If I ever get anything with light it's obviously going to be well-fitted.

Also rng sucks...in every mmorgs on the planet. Yet, it's developers favourite system when distributing loot. I'm guessing because it's easier to have running than creating entire barter systems, with new NPC's and currency. Bloody slackers.

Really wish they increased the 2-set droprate from the chest, since traits and types are random. Getting a useful trait and the right type, you need either months of grinding, loads of luck or multiple VR14 characters to farm gold keys on. Not so viable options for players with actual real life obligations.

leandro.800ub17_ESO · November 2014

I have seen 2 types of head for same item. Medium and light to i think they all come in the 3 types possible

Thechemicals · November 2014

Build diversity.

Preyfar · November 2014

Thechemicals wrote: »

Build diversity.

I tend to run with 5 med, 2 light and would LOVE to be able to find sets that existed beyond a single armor class/item type.

xaraan · November 2014

Drop rates are ok on this. Shouldn't be able to get everything you want within a week or two of release, it's supposed to take time.

I have several combos I like, but still need to get versions with better traits or in light instead of heavy, etc.

Magdalina · November 2014

Gyudan wrote: »

I have done all the pledges available on 1 character and received 3 unique shoulders so far:
- Scourge Harvester, light armor, reinforced
- Maw of the Infernal, medium armor, sturdy
- Valkyn Skoria, heavy armor, infused

Quite a few unique heads as well:
- Scourge Harvester, light armor, divines
- Maw of the Infernal, light armor, divines
- Blood Spawn, medium armor, reinforced
- Nerien'Eth, medium armor, impenetrable
- Nightflame, medium armor, sturdy
- Nightflame, heavy armor, sturdy

I think the droprates are appropriate and shouldn't be changed. Keep trying and you'll find something good.

RNG likes you...afer running every single vet Undaunted pledge(hardmode, mind you), most of them several times, and rerunning vet DC 10+ times specifically for the helmet, I still have 0 heads. I'm beginning to get a sneaky suspicion heads just don't exist and all of ESO is screwing with me xD

I have 2 shoulders though, both infused, both light, so that's actually use-able. Spawn of Mephala's and Engine Guardian's ones.

Far as armor type goes, I'm actually a bit confused myself. I thought any set can come in any armor type and trait - the type part actually made sense because it allowed for wider build diversity: if I want to tank in light or medium armor, why can't I try that? But so far I got Undauned Bastion in ALL types of armor and about 30+ Unweaver(stamina bonuses) pieces...ALL in LIGHT. I can't remember much on the last set because I get it a lot less. But the Unweaver part is kind of confusing. Is rng just being weird with me or is there seriously ONLY light version?

Gyudan · November 2014

Magdalina wrote: »

I have 2 shoulders though, both infused, both light, so that's actually use-able. Spawn of Mephala's and Engine Guardian's ones.

I want that sphere!

Magdalina wrote: »

Far as armor type goes, I'm actually a bit confused myself. I thought any set can come in any armor type and trait - the type part actually made sense because it allowed for wider build diversity: if I want to tank in light or medium armor, why can't I try that? But so far I got Undauned Bastion in ALL types of armor and about 30+ Unweaver(stamina bonuses) pieces...ALL in LIGHT. I can't remember much on the last set because I get it a lot less. But the Unweaver part is kind of confusing. Is rng just being weird with me or is there seriously ONLY light version?

To clarify, there are 3 "common" undaunted sets:
- The Undaunted Unweaver, light armor, gives more dmg on light/heavy attacks when using a stamina ability
- The Undaunted Infiltrator, medium armor, gives more dmg on light/heavy attacks when using a magicka ability
- The Undaunted Bastion, heavy armor, gives a shield.

The traits are random (from what I've seen) but the armor weight isn't.

whsprwind · November 2014

If the goal is to make us work for the rewards, make it a definite fixed reward (like 10gold keys, to get choose a light, med or heavy shoulders piece, random trait or something)

Complete RNG is bs. The lucky ones will complete their sets in one try and the rest of us can do nothing but suck on it

Natjur · November 2014

If they allow craters to change traits on items, then 90% of this would not be an issue. The random dice of this game hate me.

Magdalina · November 2014

Gyudan wrote: »

Magdalina wrote: »

I have 2 shoulders though, both infused, both light, so that's actually use-able. Spawn of Mephala's and Engine Guardian's ones.

I want that sphere!

Magdalina wrote: »

Far as armor type goes, I'm actually a bit confused myself. I thought any set can come in any armor type and trait - the type part actually made sense because it allowed for wider build diversity: if I want to tank in light or medium armor, why can't I try that? But so far I got Undauned Bastion in ALL types of armor and about 30+ Unweaver(stamina bonuses) pieces...ALL in LIGHT. I can't remember much on the last set because I get it a lot less. But the Unweaver part is kind of confusing. Is rng just being weird with me or is there seriously ONLY light version?

To clarify, there are 3 "common" undaunted sets:
- The Undaunted Unweaver, light armor, gives more dmg on light/heavy attacks when using a stamina ability
- The Undaunted Infiltrator, medium armor, gives more dmg on light/heavy attacks when using a magicka ability
- The Undaunted Bastion, heavy armor, gives a shield.

The traits are random (from what I've seen) but the armor weight isn't.

I have received plenty of light Bastion pieces though, as well as a couple medium ones I think.

KenjiJU · November 2014

Keeps replayability. Screws some players unfortunately. I've been running both pledges every day -1 since they came out. All I have to show for it is two variants of blood maw shoulders and a vr5 maw hat.

Unknown_poster · November 2014

The armor sets are intended. They want light armor people to play with stamina, they want medium to play with magicka, and they gave the tank classes the hardest shaft of all, a worthless shield that only procs under 60 percent. If your dropping to under 60 as the tank you have bigger problems than that set is going to fix for you. They added the new undaunted passives that are only effective if you mix and match all 3 types. The helm and shoulders from completing the vet dungeon final bosses rock though, even worn as a single piece.

Homm · November 2014

whsprwind wrote: »

If the goal is to make us work for the rewards, make it a definite fixed reward (like 10gold keys, to get choose a light, med or heavy shoulders piece, random trait or something)

Complete RNG is bs. The lucky ones will complete their sets in one try and the rest of us can do nothing but suck on it

This. Making one work for reward is one thing, but this is a typical zenimax crap. I can make hundreds of pledges (which will take hundreds of days damn it) and get ***. I made all of them since the start and only got one shoulders - medium. Now, how many months do I have to farm to get the specific one I need? Even with ANY trait, doesn't matter, cause hoping for the ones with divines is just wishful thinking.

A1pharius · November 2014

20 gold chests - 2 identical shoulder.
40+ races in Darkshade Caverns - not a single piece of Engine Guardian set.
I do not understand why introduce the game such a horrible random. Those who love Korean games do not play in ESO.
Introduce a system of tokens or seriously increase the chance of Drop

whsprwind · November 2014

I wonder who was the designer that thought "With this drop rate, we'll have people running dungeons 40x but may possible end up with nothing. Yep, sounds about right"

Pyatra · November 2014

They look cool, but the final set property relies too much on RNG for my liking.

Magdalina · November 2014

15+ DC runs, no helmet. Also, my experience with ESO rng tells me that when I finally get it, it's gonna be well-fitted medium.
After total 40+ vet dungeon runs, I have 2 helmets, both dropped from same boss same day(Bloodspawn), both medium.

So...how about that token system, Zeni?

Tripwyr · November 2014

I nearly have the Veteran Flame Colossus achievement, but I have yet to see Valykn Skoria's helm drop in any way. The achievement requires 50 Flame Colossus kills, but there are only 4 in each dungeon, and on our speed run attempts (5), we skipped all but the first Flame Colossus. That means I have run the dungeon at least 15 times, wasting at least 11 hours of my life trying to get that helm.

Please improve the drop rate, I haven't even gotten the helm at all yet, and I still have to gamble with 24 possible configurations.

Armitas · November 2014

Something is bugged out on those drops. I have 2 valykn skoria helms, 4-5 shoulders and probably around 7 helms in total and others have 0 while doing every pledge since it began.

Could our finesse rating be bugged? Does anyone know if the challenge has any effect on chance for a boss helm to drop?

I feel your pain. The last game I played I had done over 300 runs of a dungeon (sword halls, lotro) for a shield and never saw it drop. That grind drove me to play another game and I never came back. Unmitigated RNG sux.

Tripwyr · November 2014

Armitas wrote: »

Something is bugged out on those drops. I have 2 valykn skoria helms, 4-5 shoulders and probably around 7 helms in total and others have 0 while doing every pledge since it began.

Could our finesse rating be bugged? Does anyone know if the challenge has any effect on chance for a boss helm to drop?

I do challenge mode on Skoria every time because its faster and easier, so unless doing the challenge mode reduces the drop rate, this can't be it.

Armitas · November 2014

Tripwyr wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Something is bugged out on those drops. I have 2 valykn skoria helms, 4-5 shoulders and probably around 7 helms in total and others have 0 while doing every pledge since it began.

Could our finesse rating be bugged? Does anyone know if the challenge has any effect on chance for a boss helm to drop?

I do challenge mode on Skoria every time because its faster and easier, so unless doing the challenge mode reduces the drop rate, this can't be it.

You guys are usually #1 at that stuff so your finesse should have been maxed out for your runs. I wonder if it's working right.

Tingles Combat addon is suppose to show finesse rating. I have not tried it and depending on where you look at it, it shows finesse as a future addition or a current addition on the download page. It's out of date but you could give it a try just to confirm if your finesse generation is bugged. T's Combat.

B11zzard · November 2014

Valkyn Skoria head: haavy - divines, medium - well-fitted/sturdy(i don't remember), light - divines. (10+ runs)
Engine Guardian head: heavy infused (6-7 runs)

Engine guardian pauldrons: heavy sturdy
Spawn of Mephala pauldrons: don't remember
Nightflame pauldrons: don't remember

7 daily quests. (+- 1)

I think drop rate is ok. This sets (atleast Valkyn Skoria and Engine guardian) are OP. I use 2 heavy parts of Engine Guardian for my healer and i even don't care.

itsBishop · November 2014

I thought the devs stated shortly after launch that the finesse system was scrapped. I have yet to see any other mention of it since then.

Homm · November 2014

Few days later, stil lgetting only medium and heavy, how the *** am I supposed to get any light 2 item set if I can't get even 1? Fix this, I don't want heavy on sorcerer, and I can't farm epaulets because of the *** prize system from the chest

Mud_Puppy · November 2014

Ive farmed the living hell out of these. Only hardmodes as well. Max scaling.
Gotten a few helms, a few of the same. However I keep farming due to I might get a better suited version since rng. Same with shoulders have doubles of engine and maw.

However the rng is strong. 30+ runs of darkshade completion - no helm
10+ runs of banished cells - no helm
4 completions of vet ash, plently of ember shield pieces but no helm or shoulders.

Tripwyr · November 2014

itsBishop wrote: »

I thought the devs stated shortly after launch that the finesse system was scrapped. I have yet to see any other mention of it since then.

Yes, as far as I know the finesse system was scrapped.

B11zzard wrote: »

Valkyn Skoria head: haavy - divines, medium - well-fitted/sturdy(i don't remember), light - divines. (10+ runs)
Engine Guardian head: heavy infused (6-7 runs)

Engine guardian pauldrons: heavy sturdy
Spawn of Mephala pauldrons: don't remember
Nightflame pauldrons: don't remember

7 daily quests. (+- 1)

I think drop rate is ok. This sets (atleast Valkyn Skoria and Engine guardian) are OP. I use 2 heavy parts of Engine Guardian for my healer and i even don't care.

I've done 15 runs now (browsing forums until my group is ready for the 16th), I have yet to get a helm from City of Ash. I'm getting extremely frustrated. EDIT: Nothing for run #16. EDIT2: Nothing for run #17. EDIT3: Nothing for run #18. EDIT4: Nothing for run #19. Taking a break after 5.5 hours straight.

I have 5 pairs of the Maw of the Infernal shoulders, 4 pairs of Spawn of Mephala, 2 pairs of Valkyn Skoria, 1 pair of Nerien'eth's Pauldrons, and 1 pair of Bogdon's shoulders. This is from doing an average of 2 undaunted pledges/day (I used to do 3/day for the first week or so, I've skipped days or only done 1-2/day since then).

These drop rates are seriously not acceptable.

The_Sadist · November 2014

I've received 3 hats in total (been doing 1-2 runs a day plus random runs) all of which are useless for me (medium Blood Spawn with well fitting, heavy Nerien'eth's with reinforced and heavy Maw of the Infernal with divines) alongside one 1 shoulder piece (heavy Spawn of Mephala with infused).

All in all I'm not happy. As I said I'm now doing 2-4 vet runs a day and while I've seen hats drop I've rarely gotten them myself. Obviously my luck with chests is way worse as I only received one and haven't skipped a pledge since the system came out.

I'd personally like to see some sort of luck / token system... or make them bloody exchangeable. The whole random nature (heavy v light v medium + random trait) is already very off putting, having to run a dungeon 30+ for a chance to drop an iffy trait wrong armour type hat is soso, doing countless daily pledges for a chance to get a more random shoulder piece is ridiculous.

@Tripwyr‌ I might have to annoy you for your CoA tactic, trying to farm it for the bloody head and shaving off time is always welcome!

Tripwyr · November 2014

The_Sadist wrote: »

I've received 3 hats in total (been doing 1-2 runs a day plus random runs) all of which are useless for me (medium Blood Spawn with well fitting, heavy Nerien'eth's with reinforced and heavy Maw of the Infernal with divines) alongside one 1 shoulder piece (heavy Spawn of Mephala with infused).

All in all I'm not happy. As I said I'm now doing 2-4 vet runs a day and while I've seen hats drop I've rarely gotten them myself. Obviously my luck with chests is way worse as I only received one and haven't skipped a pledge since the system came out.

I'd personally like to see some sort of luck / token system... or make them bloody exchangeable. The whole random nature (heavy v light v medium + random trait) is already very off putting, having to run a dungeon 30+ for a chance to drop an iffy trait wrong armour type hat is soso, doing countless daily pledges for a chance to get a more random shoulder piece is ridiculous.

@Tripwyr‌ I might have to annoy you for your CoA tactic, trying to farm it for the bloody head and shaving off time is always welcome!

Feel free to whisper me.

It is incredibly frustrating how low the drop rate is on these helms.