New 2-piece sets and undaunted chests

Magdalina

30+ vet DC. No helm. Just met a guy who did his 4th run with me(and predictably got no helm)....gee, I feel encouraged xD

AssaultLemming

Homm wrote: »

Natjur wrote: »

The helms have random traits but it appears only some have a random change of being light\med\heavy. It appears some are always one type.

No. I got all helms heavy/medium, not a single light, and I got all types by now, so where are the light ones? Same with eps, the only light one I have is the tank set from Wayrest, the rest is all heavy/med. Basically, after almost 30 days of doing 1/day I don't have a single item to wear. Thx ZOS.

This is my experience. I've got half a dozen helms and a couple shoulders and all are medium or heavy. It would be very underhanded if they made the drop rate for light less than the others instead of just fixing the armor imbalance that causes everyone to want light in the first place...

whsprwind

AssaultLemming wrote: »

Homm wrote: »

Natjur wrote: »

The helms have random traits but it appears only some have a random change of being light\med\heavy. It appears some are always one type.

No. I got all helms heavy/medium, not a single light, and I got all types by now, so where are the light ones? Same with eps, the only light one I have is the tank set from Wayrest, the rest is all heavy/med. Basically, after almost 30 days of doing 1/day I don't have a single item to wear. Thx ZOS.

This is my experience. I've got half a dozen helms and a couple shoulders and all are medium or heavy. It would be very underhanded if they made the drop rate for light less than the others instead of just fixing the armor imbalance that causes everyone to want light in the first place...

Yeah it seems that the devs might have figured out an alogrithm to give healer tank pieces and DPS tank pieces etc. And it works

I'm pretty sure they have that something of that sort going on in combat. Notice how in DSA the announcer calls out whose fault is it when the party wipes? It's rather accurate too lol

Septimus_Magna

I got Valkyn Skoria light infused and heavy impenetrable shoulders, Bogdan well-fitted medium helmet and Embershield heavy hands (from the first imp in CoH lol).

The Valkyn helmet hasn't dropped for me yet. Can anyone confirm if it procs of Crushing Shock? If it doesn't I'll try to find the Mephala, Nerien'eth or Engine Guardian set.

Tripwyr

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

I got Valkyn Skoria light infused and heavy impenetrable shoulders, Bogdan well-fitted medium helmet and Embershield heavy hands (from the first imp in CoH lol).

The Valkyn helmet hasn't dropped for me yet. Can anyone confirm if it procs of Crushing Shock? If it doesn't I'll try to find the Mephala, Nerien'eth or Engine Guardian set.

It does not proc from Crushing Shock, but it does proc from the Burning effect applied by Crushing Shock.

WhiskyBob

Well. If Blood Spawns pauldrons would drop they could even be light armor with sturdy trait and i would still use it.

But it never drops.
Never.

Septimus_Magna

WhiskyBob wrote: »

Well. If Blood Spawns pauldrons would drop they could even be light armor with sturdy trait and i would still use it.

But it never drops.
Never.

It should drop in the gold chest right? I got the idea the boss drops the head and the shoulders drop in the gold chest but I could be wrong. I will keep farming dungeons for head pieces and hope I get some matching shoulder pieces.

Homm

Zenimax get this crap right, make it even for everyone instead of crap RNG..

Bipolo

I'll throw myself on the bandwagon here, since i am mainly a PvPer. I log in everyday in this game to PvP, and ofc I like a lot of the new undaunted sets.

I have been running Silver and Gold Key Pledges close to everyday since it came out. Fair enough, i can live with that and i get to see places and do some PvE which i haven't done yet, however I have still to get a single full set i want to try.

Blood Spawn, the set i really want in Light Armor (Pref Impen/Infused) hasn't dropped once for me and not got a single piece from Chest.
Valkyn Skoria a set i would also try out and use if i got 2 pieces, i have so far picked up Medium and Heavy Shoulders but not a single Head piece... and ofc not Light Armor.

This is getting really frustrating as a PvP player, i feel forced to PvE because of Bind on Pickup, Undaunted Passives and i am getting even more frustrated by the RNG, which means i can do this over and over and might not get what i want to use...

Just sad, your Dungeons are nice ZoS, but running the same ones over and over and over is not why i play your game. And i don't like being cut off from these sets because i spend most of my time in Cyrodiil.

Magdalina

~35 runs and not one DC helmet. Just saying:)

My tank got it today though, was 45th run for him. So maybe in 10 more...

WhiskyBob

Got my Blood Spawn shoulders today. Medium, sturdy trait.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EQ6eHeBrhM
Still using it.

Iyas

58 runs in darkshade caverns and still no helm. its such a ... grind. Gimme tokens!

Homm

34 gold chests, not a single epaulet I can use.

ZENIMAX!?

Soulac

Undaunted Max rank now, still need dwemer shoulders, gg.
I got the head after 23 speed runs and it's not funny to get it in heavy armor then..

I got full Malubeth, blood spawn, Valkyn Skoria, deadroth set and two other head pieces without the shoulders.
Nothing of that is useful for me, I only need the dwemer shoulders.
So.. 3 weeks, daylis with two chars and still nothing.

Magdalina

Iyas wrote: »

58 runs in darkshade caverns and still no helm. its such a ... grind. Gimme tokens!

O.O Gods I feel encouraged now...and I thought I was bad at ~40 runs. Lol.

cote-bmsb16_ESO

You can get the "gold key" drops from vet City of Ash too.

Homm

cote-bmsb16_ESO wrote: »

You can get the "gold key" drops from vet City of Ash too.

Not the shoulders.

eliisra

So far 42 chests and only 1 light armor shoulder(Bogdan's crappy epaulets with sturdy).

I even started doing them on 2 characters.

What I fear is that these sets are going to be obsolete before any of us less fortunate has 2 pieces of something we can use

Pick one ZoS:

Make shoulders drops from bosses to, making the full set farm friendly.

Increase the chance of shoulder drops from chest.

Introduce a barter/token system. For example 30 tokens for one shoulder piece of choice, you get one token a day with the gold key.

LunaRae

Magdalina wrote: »

RNG likes you...afer running every single vet Undaunted pledge(hardmode, mind you), most of them several times, and rerunning vet DC 10+ times specifically for the helmet, I still have 0 heads. I'm beginning to get a sneaky suspicion heads just don't exist and all of ESO is screwing with me xD

I have 2 shoulders though, both infused, both light, so that's actually use-able. Spawn of Mephala's and Engine Guardian's ones.

Far as armor type goes, I'm actually a bit confused myself. I thought any set can come in any armor type and trait - the type part actually made sense because it allowed for wider build diversity: if I want to tank in light or medium armor, why can't I try that? But so far I got Undauned Bastion in ALL types of armor and about 30+ Unweaver(stamina bonuses) pieces...ALL in LIGHT. I can't remember much on the last set because I get it a lot less. But the Unweaver part is kind of confusing. Is rng just being weird with me or is there seriously ONLY light version?

I ran Vet CoA for my guildmate to help him get Valkyn helmet drop. I got it three times before he got it once, running the dungeon dozen's of times. When I get shoulders with Sturdy I rejoice knowing that most people don't even get shoulders to begin with.

Gyudan

eliisra wrote: »

What I fear is that these sets are going to be obsolete before any of us less fortunate has 2 pieces of something we can use

Those sets are not particularly OP and you shouldn't think your item build around them, unless you already have the ones you want.
In my opinion they're just cool to collect and add some nice effects for some builds, like the Scourge harvester deathray on my tank. Pew Pew gimme hp.

Just leave switchable gear on head/shoulders if you want to add them later.

cote-bmsb16_ESO

Homm wrote: »

cote-bmsb16_ESO wrote: »

You can get the "gold key" drops from vet City of Ash too.

Not the shoulders.

We just got the shoulders from city of ass on Sunday.

Mawhonic1990

Day 20, only one shoulder over all dropped for me...

eliisra

Gyudan wrote: »

eliisra wrote: »

What I fear is that these sets are going to be obsolete before any of us less fortunate has 2 pieces of something we can use

Those sets are not particularly OP and you shouldn't think your item build around them, unless you already have the ones you want.
In my opinion they're just cool to collect and add some nice effects for some builds, like the Scourge harvester deathray on my tank. Pew Pew gimme hp.

Just leave switchable gear on head/shoulders if you want to add them later.

Why would I run around with switch-able gear for something I might never get

I only use complete and optimized builds, like most players. If I ever get 2 pieces, than and only than will my build be adjusted accordingly.

But I get what you're saying, you think we should all be doing pledges only for fun and adventures, if we at one rare occasions get something we can use, than it's icing on the cake. I disagree, of course. I'm already capped on Undaunted, I've done these dungeons more times than I can count. There's no adventuring left.

Couple of these sets are so much more than cool collectibles. They're exceptionally useful to integrate in many builds. That's also the issue, we have awesome gear sets in-game, impossible to obtain for some due to rng. What's even the point of that besides making me and other item-hoarders frustrated?

44 chests now...and nothing I can use. WTF ZoS

Tripwyr

cote-bmsb16_ESO wrote: »

Homm wrote: »

cote-bmsb16_ESO wrote: »

You can get the "gold key" drops from vet City of Ash too.

Not the shoulders.

We just got the shoulders from city of ass on Sunday.

No you didn't. The shoulders only drop from the gold key chest, and the gold key pledge can not be City of Ash. You can only get the helm from City of Ash, the shoulders come randomly from any gold key chest.

Natjur

The helms and shoulders come with random traits and some appear to be random types (can get light, medium or heavy)

But some sets appear to be only one type. Anyone else noticed this or just random luck?

Engine Guardian, 7 helm drops, all heavy
Maw of the Infernal, 12 helm drops, all medium
Nerien’eth, 7 helm drops, 5 light, 2 heavy
Blood Spawn, 9 helm drops, 5 medium, 3 light, 1 medium

Tripwyr

Natjur wrote: »

The helms and shoulders come with random traits and some appear to be random types (can get light, medium or heavy)

But some sets appear to be only one type. Anyone else noticed this or just random luck?

Engine Guardian, 7 helm drops, all heavy
Maw of the Infernal, 12 helm drops, all medium
Nerien’eth, 7 helm drops, 5 light, 2 heavy
Blood Spawn, 9 helm drops, 5 medium, 3 light, 1 medium

Random. I have Engine Guardian in Light Infused, and Maw of the Infernal in Light Reinforced.

Natjur

Tripwyr wrote: »

Natjur wrote: »

The helms and shoulders come with random traits and some appear to be random types (can get light, medium or heavy)

But some sets appear to be only one type. Anyone else noticed this or just random luck?

Engine Guardian, 7 helm drops, all heavy
Maw of the Infernal, 12 helm drops, all medium
Nerien’eth, 7 helm drops, 5 light, 2 heavy
Blood Spawn, 9 helm drops, 5 medium, 3 light, 1 medium

Random. I have Engine Guardian in Light Infused, and Maw of the Infernal in Light Reinforced.

If only crafters could convert helm types (heavy to light) or change traits. Back to farming Dark Caverns some more, I am so tried of that last boss.

Magdalina

Natjur wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

Natjur wrote: »

The helms and shoulders come with random traits and some appear to be random types (can get light, medium or heavy)

But some sets appear to be only one type. Anyone else noticed this or just random luck?

Engine Guardian, 7 helm drops, all heavy
Maw of the Infernal, 12 helm drops, all medium
Nerien’eth, 7 helm drops, 5 light, 2 heavy
Blood Spawn, 9 helm drops, 5 medium, 3 light, 1 medium

Random. I have Engine Guardian in Light Infused, and Maw of the Infernal in Light Reinforced.

If only crafters could convert helm types (heavy to light) or change traits. Back to farming Dark Caverns some more, I am so tried of that last boss.

Well at least you get SOME drops. After 40+ DC runs I still have to see one.

If you're NA EP, I believe we could farm together;)

manny254

Tripwyr wrote: »

Natjur wrote: »

The helms and shoulders come with random traits and some appear to be random types (can get light, medium or heavy)

But some sets appear to be only one type. Anyone else noticed this or just random luck?

Engine Guardian, 7 helm drops, all heavy
Maw of the Infernal, 12 helm drops, all medium
Nerien’eth, 7 helm drops, 5 light, 2 heavy
Blood Spawn, 9 helm drops, 5 medium, 3 light, 1 medium

Random. I have Engine Guardian in Light Infused, and Maw of the Infernal in Light Reinforced.

Yeah at this point I have seen all the heads drop in pretty much all armor types, but it feels rare to actually get the good ones for yourself.

Natjur

Magdalina wrote: »

Natjur wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

Natjur wrote: »

The helms and shoulders come with random traits and some appear to be random types (can get light, medium or heavy)

But some sets appear to be only one type. Anyone else noticed this or just random luck?

Engine Guardian, 7 helm drops, all heavy
Maw of the Infernal, 12 helm drops, all medium
Nerien’eth, 7 helm drops, 5 light, 2 heavy
Blood Spawn, 9 helm drops, 5 medium, 3 light, 1 medium

Random. I have Engine Guardian in Light Infused, and Maw of the Infernal in Light Reinforced.

If only crafters could convert helm types (heavy to light) or change traits. Back to farming Dark Caverns some more, I am so tried of that last boss.

Well at least you get SOME drops. After 40+ DC runs I still have to see one.

If you're NA EP, I believe we could farm together;)

I am NA DC, but I found my drop rate when way up when I changed from tanking\healing the instance to dps. (I am a Templar)

Its 'felt' like the loot was based on damage done, the more % of the boss I kill compared to the rest of my group, the more likely I would get a helm. Sure its only a small sample size, but almost every run I did, the tank got no helm unless they were doing a lot of dps as well