sotonin wrote: »

grimjim398 wrote: »

If you wanted to see some actual numbers you might have used the search feature to find the half a dozen other polls there have been on this subject. This is getting pretty tiresome, the same debate every week.

Yep. but it won't be going away until ZOS fixes the economic system so that it's not useless and discriminating.

It's both useful and indiscriminate. Basic trading guild membership usually just requires you to buy/sell from the store. And it works - our members have been using it since launch and get along very happily with it

sotonin wrote: »

Xabien wrote: »

sotonin wrote: »

grimjim398 wrote: »

If you wanted to see some actual numbers you might have used the search feature to find the half a dozen other polls there have been on this subject. This is getting pretty tiresome, the same debate every week.

Yep. but it won't be going away until ZOS fixes the economic system so that it's not useless and discriminating.

It's both useful and indiscriminate. Basic trading guild membership usually just requires you to buy/sell from the store. And it works - our members have been using it since launch and get along very happily with it

It doesn't work for everybody. It only works for a small fraction of the folks who get lucky and are in good trade guilds. Thats not working. thats useless.

There's other people like me, who are doing everything the way it is supposed to be done within their "system". Joining 5 max member guilds, yet still can not find anything worthwhile to buy. Selling my own items is slow as sin. Basically it's exactly as i described. Useless.

Discriminating because apparently the system is working for some lucky few. Your post alone concretes that and proves that it's discriminating because our experiences with the exact same guild store system are polar opposites.

Discrimination is action that denies social participation or human rights to categories of people based on prejudice.

You aren't denied anything. You have access to the exact same system the rest of us do. You can just as easily quit the guilds you are in as the rest of us can. You can just as easily look for new guilds just like the rest of us can

If you don't like the system, then fine. But please stop with this nonsense about how it's only working for a "small fraction of folks" that are "a lucky few".

And most of all, stop using the word discriminate. It doesn't even remotely apply to this discussion and it reeks of an attempt to get attention by using a powerful word.
You aren't being discriminated against every time you come across something you don't like.

Main Entry: dis·crim·i·na·tion
Pronunciation: \dis-ˌkri-mə-ˈnā-shən\
Function: noun
Date: 1648
1 a : the act of discriminating b : the process by which two stimuli differing in some aspect are responded to differently 2 : the quality or power of finely distinguishing 3 a : the act, practice, or an instance of discriminating categorically rather than individually b : prejudiced or prejudicial outlook, action, or treatment <racial discrimination>

By Merrian-Webster's definition of discrimination instead of the wiki one we could possibly squeeze this issue in. Unguilded and guilded are treated differently, as are high traffic/low traffic. But I agree, it's too harsh a word.

And as I have pointed out earlier, only a minority of the player base has access to it by design.

I'm not sure what harm would come with having a global trading system. Other than other games do it so therefore ESO should not.

I think posting should be global to all guilds. Basically you put your stuff up for sale, and it becomes available in all guilds you're in. If you switch guilds, then you take your stuff with you.

Buying stuff should stay as it is.