Should ESO have a global trading system

spoqster

There are multipel heated debates between players who are in favor of a more global trading system and those who like the current system. Both parties claim the majority of players is on their side. I'd be interested to see some actual numbers.

Arguments in favor of a more global system usually involve the request for a more simple way to sell what you have, buy what you need and usually come from players who have limited interest in bargains and selling overpriced items to noobs.

Arguments in favor of the current system usually involve the concern that a more global system would favor abuse in one way or another.

spoqster

I would like to see a hybrid solution (please specify in the comments).

See this thread for my suggestion:
Use the existing npc merchants to sell items for players

AlexDougherty

I would prefer a global auctioning house.

I want a system simialr to SWTORs galactic trade kiosks.

ers101284b14_ESO

I like the system as it is now (including the kiosks).

I'd like people to just bury the horse instead of continuously beating it.

seanolan

I like the system as it is now (including the kiosks).

Oh FFS not this daedra-bedamned topic again.

sotonin

I would prefer a global auctioning house.

seanolan wrote: »

Oh FFS not this daedra-bedamned topic again.

It's not going away until ZOS does something to rectify the situation.

smeeprocketnub19_ESO

I like the system as it is now (including the kiosks).

Where is the option to never have one of these threads ever again. Three hundred of them is enough (okay perhaps that is hyperbole.)

BBSooner

I like the system as it is now (including the kiosks).

spoqster wrote: »

There are multipel heated debates between players who are in favor of a more global trading system and those who like the current system.

There have also been multiple polls about it.

RoyMallis

I would like to see a hybrid solution (please specify in the comments).

Keep the guild trade and open a global AH but make specific items Guild Store only.

Ser Lobo

I like the system as it is now (including the kiosks).

Keep it as is. I like the addition of kiosks (exactly what the Cyrodiil guild vendors were supposed to be from the beginning), and like the smaller, mobile markets which allow for price fluctuation and even some level of trade. Only one of my trade guilds has a vendor, and while items do move faster there, I HAVE bought items at a local vendor and put them up in my trade guild for a profit.

It's a fairly simple system, but I've never been one to believe that convenience is the most important thing to worry about.

Hopefully guild vendors will become more predominant when/if guild houses become a thing in the future.

Resueht

I like the system as it is now (including the kiosks).

sotonin wrote: »

seanolan wrote: »

Oh FFS not this daedra-bedamned topic again.

It's not going away until ZOS does something to rectify the situation.

Call me ignorant but what exactly is the problem? I have no trouble with the current system.

Ser Lobo

I like the system as it is now (including the kiosks).

Resueht wrote: »

sotonin wrote: »

seanolan wrote: »

Oh FFS not this daedra-bedamned topic again.

It's not going away until ZOS does something to rectify the situation.

Call me ignorant but what exactly is the problem? I have no trouble with the current system.

ZOS said they wouldn't make an auction house because it cheapens the effect of end-game loot and destroys rarity, especially in a larger playerbase like we see with mega-servers.

Some players, who have grown accustomed to auction houses in other games, do not like that. They wish to force ZOS to change their principles and ideals to suit their need for convenience and accessibility.

So far, this is one of the issues ZOS has stood up on. And it's really hurting the play-time of players who are used to penny bids, auction bots, and spending money to buy gold so that they can get l33t lootz without ever having to actually run the content.

Pheefs

I would like to see a hybrid solution (please specify in the comments).

I mostly like the trading system "As is" ...but I think it would help to grant a perk to a guild that lets them set a 'Craft Bounty' to the general population at the kiosks.

the guild would earn the perk & set the bounty item, & non-guild members can fill the bounty & then the system would pay the player... so the guild would be generating commerce for the average player & getting a steady supply of the one material they need most.

Nazon_Katts

I would like to see a hybrid solution (please specify in the comments).

[Proposal] Localized Consigment Vendors

Or at the very least a buy order option for kiosks.

Probitas

Of course it should, the system we have now is unworkable, or rather, not working at all really. You can't easily find buyers or sellers. Guild vendors only sell, they do not buy, and that's not what a proper vendor is in my mind. If you are using the term as it's applied to vending machines, where transactions are one way only, then yes, it's working wonderfully. (that's sarcasm btw)

I sometimes wonder if this game is just a big science experiment to see how much design BS people can stomach.

smeeprocketnub19_ESO

I like the system as it is now (including the kiosks).

Buy orders would be awesome. That would be a good addition.

Elsonso

I like the system as it is now (including the kiosks).

I would not enjoy the pay cut the global auction house would bring.

PBpsy

I like the system as it is now (including the kiosks).

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

I'd like people to just bury the horse instead of continuously beating it.

I would prefer that we eat it , regurgitate it and and make horsy flesh atronach out of it and beat it again.

Ragefist

I like the system as it is now (including the kiosks).

Why those threads keep poping up? Did WoW players didnt grasp the concept of megaserver?

Just look at the GW2 global auction fail and the success of EvE decentralized market

Nazon_Katts

I would like to see a hybrid solution (please specify in the comments).

PBpsy wrote: »

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

I'd like people to just bury the horse instead of continuously beating it.

I would prefer that we eat it , regurgitate it and and make horsy flesh atronach out of it and beat it again.

If noone can be bothered to take care of the corpse, we'll continue beating it up again and again and again...

Martinus72

I like the system as it is now (including the kiosks).

I am the one of those spending loads of time in AH in every MMO I've been playing so far and have no problem with this system whatsoever, I'm selling my stuff and buying everything I need. Find and join big active trading guilds?

ers101284b14_ESO

I like the system as it is now (including the kiosks).

PBpsy wrote: »

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

I'd like people to just bury the horse instead of continuously beating it.

I would prefer that we eat it , regurgitate it and and make horsy flesh atronach out of it and beat it again.

Well your in luck cause I think that's what's happening. I'm not sure until someone makes a poll about

/gaveyouanlol

RoyMallis

I would like to see a hybrid solution (please specify in the comments).

Ragefist wrote: »

Why those threads keep poping up? Did WoW players didnt grasp the concept of megaserver?

Just look at the GW2 global auction fail and the success of EvE decentralized market

I haven't had issues with Tera's AH and they're on a mega server. The guild store makes finding a buy and finding appropriate prices difficult, while with a global AH I could find the general price range of an item and go off that. Currently I'm unsure of a reliable means of finding out what the market is for an item and if it's worth selling.

Wizzo91

I would prefer a global auctioning house.

I really hoped the trading-kiosks would of improved the situation.. but they did not for most players.

Trading is guild stores not worth the effort (and are also really annoying and a hassle).

You can make enough / more money more effectively and efficiently with just spamming the zone chats, having contacts, or in your real guild.

I went through 15+ trading guilds since release and have only found one that I've been in for more than 4 weeks.

Most new guilds I join want a fee of 5000g a week or some *** - seriously people.

I know there a lot of people are against an auction house (with no valid arguments).

I enjoy the most of the game. Big negative is the *** trading system- but I don't care because I literally swim in money and after every content patch build a new legendary armor with mats I got through hirelings / refining mats.

Also I have crafting toon for provisioning and alchemy. If I need new food / pots I go on a 2 hour farm .. no problem.

What I really think? Trading in ESO is obsolete compared to other mmos.

smeeprocketnub19_ESO

I like the system as it is now (including the kiosks).

RoyMallis wrote: »

Ragefist wrote: »

Why those threads keep poping up? Did WoW players didnt grasp the concept of megaserver?

Just look at the GW2 global auction fail and the success of EvE decentralized market

I haven't had issues with Tera's AH and they're on a mega server. The guild store makes finding a buy and finding appropriate prices difficult, while with a global AH I could find the general price range of an item and go off that. Currently I'm unsure of a reliable means of finding out what the market is for an item and if it's worth selling.

yea but don't like three people play tera currently at any given time?

AoEnwyr

I would prefer a global auctioning house.

I would like a global auction house because I believe it brings transparency and competition into the economy. As far as the Kiosks go I have brought a couple of items from them but I am not going to go out of my way to find a kiosk. Unless they are directly in a hub town they are not worth the time to hunt down on the off change I might get a better deal at one

smeeprocketnub19_ESO

I like the system as it is now (including the kiosks).

Wizzo91 wrote: »

I really hoped the trading-kiosks would of improved the situation.. but they did not for most players.

Trading is guild stores not worth the effort (and are also really annoying and a hassle).

You can make enough / more money more effectively and efficiently with just spamming the zone chats, having contacts, or in your real guild.

I went through 15+ trading guilds since release and have only found one that I've been in for more than 4 weeks.

Most new guilds I join want a fee of 5000g a week or some *** - seriously people.

I know there a lot of people are against an auction house (with no valid arguments).

I enjoy the most of the game. Big negative is the *** trading system- but I don't care because I literally swim in money and after every content patch build a new legendary armor with mats I got through hirelings / refining mats.

Black Market Wares, and the Royal Bank of Tamriel. They may be open to apps atm. I am in both and they are great, and members are very helpful to other members.

RoyMallis

I would like to see a hybrid solution (please specify in the comments).

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

RoyMallis wrote: »

Ragefist wrote: »

Why those threads keep poping up? Did WoW players didnt grasp the concept of megaserver?

Just look at the GW2 global auction fail and the success of EvE decentralized market

I haven't had issues with Tera's AH and they're on a mega server. The guild store makes finding a buy and finding appropriate prices difficult, while with a global AH I could find the general price range of an item and go off that. Currently I'm unsure of a reliable means of finding out what the market is for an item and if it's worth selling.

yea but don't like three people play tera currently at any given time?

Not when I was playing lol (my peak time spent playing it was roughly 2 years ago)

Wizzo91

I would prefer a global auctioning house.

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

Wizzo91 wrote: »

I really hoped the trading-kiosks would of improved the situation.. but they did not for most players.

Trading is guild stores not worth the effort (and are also really annoying and a hassle).

You can make enough / more money more effectively and efficiently with just spamming the zone chats, having contacts, or in your real guild.

I went through 15+ trading guilds since release and have only found one that I've been in for more than 4 weeks.

Most new guilds I join want a fee of 5000g a week or some *** - seriously people.

I know there a lot of people are against an auction house (with no valid arguments).

I enjoy the most of the game. Big negative is the *** trading system- but I don't care because I literally swim in money and after every content patch build a new legendary armor with mats I got through hirelings / refining mats.

Black Market Wares, and the Royal Bank of Tamriel. They may be open to apps atm. I am in both and they are great, and members are very helpful to other members.

Yea I know trading guilds can be very helpful. But only the chat.

I'd vote for bumping up the max number of guildies up to 1000+

Guild stores are useless in my opinion.

Resueht

I like the system as it is now (including the kiosks).

UlanX wrote: »

I would like a global auction house because I believe it brings transparency and competition into the economy. As far as the Kiosks go I have brought a couple of items from them but I am not going to go out of my way to find a kiosk. Unless they are directly in a hub town they are not worth the time to hunt down on the off change I might get a better deal at one

While I do see the practical benefits of this, I do like the "regional" economies. Rather than have a single market that with trends for all the goods, we have many markets, each with slight differences in their respective trends.

Just my opinion, but I kind of like the diversity. I don't fret too much with the kiosks anyway. I only look at them every now and then to see what is for sale, not with the intent of looking for something specific.

That being said, I could see buy orders being a nice addition for those seeking particular items.

smeeprocketnub19_ESO

I like the system as it is now (including the kiosks).

Wizzo91 wrote: »

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

Wizzo91 wrote: »

I really hoped the trading-kiosks would of improved the situation.. but they did not for most players.

Trading is guild stores not worth the effort (and are also really annoying and a hassle).

You can make enough / more money more effectively and efficiently with just spamming the zone chats, having contacts, or in your real guild.

I went through 15+ trading guilds since release and have only found one that I've been in for more than 4 weeks.

Most new guilds I join want a fee of 5000g a week or some *** - seriously people.

I know there a lot of people are against an auction house (with no valid arguments).

I enjoy the most of the game. Big negative is the *** trading system- but I don't care because I literally swim in money and after every content patch build a new legendary armor with mats I got through hirelings / refining mats.

Black Market Wares, and the Royal Bank of Tamriel. They may be open to apps atm. I am in both and they are great, and members are very helpful to other members.

Yea I know trading guilds can be very helpful. But only the chat.

I'd vote for bumping up the max number of guildies up to 1000+

Guild stores are useless in my opinion.

well, you can also sell things through them, and hook up with crafters and people with supplies that -may- give you a guild discount.