Are You Enjoying Phase 1 of the Writhing Wall Event?

James-Wayne · October 14

No, I'm not enjoying it!

tomofhyrule wrote: »

Orbital78 wrote: »

Do they still have internal testers? It released broken, missing drops, etc. half the camp spawns deactivate, once that is fixed it may be better. I noticed I started getting the new motif and mats half way through my game session, which is an improvement. Bethesda charges AAA prices, we deserve AAA quality. Smaller teams will take their base if not.

I mean… they have PTS testers who volunteer their time.
(Who reported these issues and were summarily ignored)

I have been reporting issues on PTS for over 11 years and not once is my ticket ever answered or acknowledged outside the standard reply... I sometimes see my feedback on the patch notes but most I never hear from again. I understand everyone is busy and you cant reply to everything but there should be some kind of community issue log we can view in game so we can see what has been raised and what has been addressed but then we are talking full transparency right.

I reported in-game that the Phase 2 boss was spawning in Phase 1 and here we are today with the same issue, just give me access to DEV and let me fix it myself

tomofhyrule · October 14

spartaxoxo wrote: »

I also killed one of their generals. He was actually really tough with only 4 people. But not in a fun way because his attacks are poorly telegraphed. His health bar felt appropriate and he could have been more fun with better telegraphing. The drop from him was also garbage. I want to say his name was Gishvar or something Daedric like that. (ETA: It's Gishzor, found a thread) Idk I don't see anyone talking about him.

He’s not one of the generals. He’s a WB that’s not supposed to spawn until phase 2, so nothing about him is enabled yet (except him, because of a bug). He’s supposed to have a bit of lore as to why and how he’s there, but I guess it’s not as if lore matters for this event, right?

Vonnegut2506 · October 15

No, I'm not enjoying it!

It's just busy work for an inordinately long time. I will get the three golden coffers each day and that's it. Even the invaded delves and public dungeons are disappointing. How in the world can you make an invaded boss much harder than the normal delve boss and have it drop the exact same crap the delve boss would drop? It's a waste of time.

AvalonRanger · October 15

No, I'm not enjoying it!

Developer buy time by the chore event. And, players lose time by the chore event.

AvalonRanger · October 15

No, I'm not enjoying it!

Most terrible thing is that this stupid event destroy chance to play other grouping contents.

This type of event let people do repeatable stupid chore, and lose interest to play for WorldBoss,
or new dungeon, or new trial with people. What kind of MMO is this game? (LoL)

We are totally trapped by worm cult intriguer.

AvalonRanger · October 15

No, I'm not enjoying it!

Elder Scrolls Online Angry Joe show Review
Watch this from 22:21~24:39

11years later, ZOS still keep doing same stupid without reflecting on ZOS's huge mistake

https://youtu.be/Ov3B26h12C4?t=1341

DenverRalphy · October 15

No, I'm not enjoying it!

Vonnegut2506 wrote: »

It's just busy work for an inordinately long time. I will get the three golden coffers each day and that's it. Even the invaded delves and public dungeons are disappointing. How in the world can you make an invaded boss much harder than the normal delve boss and have it drop the exact same crap the delve boss would drop? It's a waste of time.

I'm bothered by the hype behind the invaded delves before the event started. Thinking that they'd play a party in the event. But they don't. They're just.. there. If you simply ignore them, you don't miss out on anything.

Vonnegut2506 · October 15

No, I'm not enjoying it!

DenverRalphy wrote: »

Vonnegut2506 wrote: »

It's just busy work for an inordinately long time. I will get the three golden coffers each day and that's it. Even the invaded delves and public dungeons are disappointing. How in the world can you make an invaded boss much harder than the normal delve boss and have it drop the exact same crap the delve boss would drop? It's a waste of time.

I'm bothered by the hype behind the invaded delves before the event started. Thinking that they'd play a party in the event. But they don't. They're just.. there.

Part of me thinks the invaded delves and public dungeons are test runs for bringing something similar for the overland content difficulty increase. They will just call it an invaded zone and add some new mobs without bothering to change loot or anything else.

jerrodbuffington · October 15

Can't get souls, fat, or furs. Takes way too long. The siege camps wasted my time because the indicator shows it is active, pay the gold to travel and and its not active. And no one is there. The fourth one actually was active. But the enemies died before I could get a hit.

Im out.

The rewards are dumb. Special event with non special rewards. Ive only gotten world drops.

duagloth · October 15

No, I'm not enjoying it!

As someone in zone char said "the writhing wall makes a great screen saver while I go watch my laundry dry"

SilverBride · October 15

I'm somewhere between liking it and not liking it. Being able to repeat "daily" quests multiple times a day is too repetitive. I'd rather see more variety in the activities from day to day. Also, I'd rather see more group activities so it would feel more like a community effort.

AvalonRanger · October 15

No, I'm not enjoying it!

I really can't understand why developer force us to play this nonsense.
There're so many of good contents already in this game. But why this?

Getsugatenso · October 15

No, I'm not enjoying it!

a marching army, a decent exciting war, exciting bosses is that too much to ask?

Soarora · October 15

No, I'm not enjoying it!

James-Wayne wrote: »

Phase 1 and phase 2 were always going to be terrible. Phase 3 allows us to access the Fortress content which is where its at. I feel they just held back dolmens and one world boss to extend the content over a longer period of time because there isnt much coming, sadly they should know events last a week at best before the majority of players move on.

The biggest problem I have about the event is that new content is released if you make it to Phase 3 on your server.

Lets break it down:
PC NA are averaging about 2% per 24 hours for Phase 1 on peak players (we may get more on the weekend).
100%/2 = 50% x 24 = 1,200 hours or 24 days for Phase 1.

But we know events for player counts last at most one week so its more like:
7 days x 2% = 14% and then 1% per day for the remainder of Phase 1 so...
7 days (14%) + 86 days (86%) = 93 days (100%) for Phase 1!

Phase 2 introduces one world boss and nothing else but seeing the boss is already available in Phase 1 most have already completed it so wont come back in Phase 2 to complete this.

We are looking like we can play new content in about 6.2 months from now.... working as intended? Does this seem fun to anyone?

I've been wondering what phase 2 could possibly be since what I thought was phase 2 is actually phase 1. I hope ZOS just scraps phase 2 and makes it a 2-part thing... I only really care about the caltrops style, phase 3, and well... gaining access to the rest of the main quest.

Islyn · October 15

No, I'm not enjoying it!

SerafinaWaterstar wrote: »

Need better drop rates, better rewards, better just everything.

Very very disappointed. Do better.

yes FARRRR TOO MUCH back and forth for *what even is this?*

Araneae6537 · October 15

Rufusstan wrote: »

On the first day I struggled to complete the quests, but persevered. In the first box opened I got the Coldharbour Surreal Estate, which was a delight until I actually went there.

Then I remembered about the house from when the Doomchar plateau was released, that it was also just a building site. All the fun went out of the event at that point.

Today, I completed the quests to get the gold boxes, and no more, having lost all interest in the event.

What fortune! Too bad you cannot sell it since open plots aren’t your thing. Or you might check out the home tours for inspiration.

Islyn · October 15

No, I'm not enjoying it!

colossalvoids wrote: »

One day was enough tbh. Will buy the pages later and finish GP some other day.

The GP are quite ez I did it in 1 day. Do the infected delve - find one - the bosses spawn every minute or so, kill mobs, spam the craft quests and done.

jad11mumbler · October 15

No, I'm not enjoying it!

Nope.

This is probably the most disappointing event I've ever done.

Was expecting more from a once in a lifetime event.

I am sitting this one out.

Frankly, I hope the wall stays up to show ZoS that they messed up this time.

But we all know that won't happen.
The event will reach 100% regardless.

Nemesis7884 · October 15

No, I'm not enjoying it!

Zos should start hiring gw2 devs who seem to do just about everything better...

BretonMage · October 15

No, I'm not enjoying it!

We need better loot in the reward boxes than just 1 or 2 pieces of gear.

Gankform · October 15

No, I'm not enjoying it!

boring! break the wall guys:D i will w8 out

Aliniel · October 15

No, I'm not enjoying it!

WoW: Legion Remix came out last week. This "special event" doesn't hold a candle to it.

I "only" do all the crafting dailies, one camp, and one souls daily for the golden boxes. But it feels quite like a chore. Nothing really fun or even remotely interesting about it.

colossalvoids · October 15

No, I'm not enjoying it!

AvalonRanger wrote: »

Elder Scrolls Online Angry Joe show Review
Watch this from 22:21~24:39

11years later, ZOS still keep doing same stupid without reflecting on ZOS's huge mistake

https://youtu.be/Ov3B26h12C4?t=1341

27:37 seems insanely appropriate for the event lmao. Was quite a time since the review, not much changed really in the grand scheme of things.

Skorro · October 15

No, I'm not enjoying it!

James-Wayne wrote: »

Phase 1 and phase 2 were always going to be terrible. Phase 3 allows us to access the Fortress content which is where its at. I feel they just held back dolmens and one world boss to extend the content over a longer period of time because there isnt much coming, sadly they should know events last a week at best before the majority of players move on.

The biggest problem I have about the event is that new content is released if you make it to Phase 3 on your server.

Lets break it down:
PC NA are averaging about 2% per 24 hours for Phase 1 on peak players (we may get more on the weekend).
100%/2 = 50% x 24 = 1,200 hours or 24 days for Phase 1.

But we know events for player counts last at most one week so its more like:
7 days x 2% = 14% and then 1% per day for the remainder of Phase 1 so...
7 days (14%) + 86 days (86%) = 93 days (100%) for Phase 1!

Phase 2 introduces one world boss and nothing else but seeing the boss is already available in Phase 1 most have already completed it so wont come back in Phase 2 to complete this.

We are looking like we can play new content in about 6.2 months from now.... working as intended? Does this seem fun to anyone?

There's no reason for it to have been terrible though.

They sold this as the "world changing 1st of it's kind" event they used to quieten down the frustrated people for an overly priced tiny "chapter" saying this event is going to make it worth it... And they give us buggy, tedious fetch quests and low drop rates and rewards.
They've apparently been working on this for months and it's bad.

Honestly my most memorable event was the elseweyr year event! Going dragon hunting with community managers when it dropped, getting wrecked, great treasures and rewards. Enough that there was something fun to do when you logged in, but it never felt like chores...

gary.mcleodeb17_ESO · October 15

Yes, I'm enjoying it!

I'm doing my best, to grind on, and on.. sigh. Ah, not out of some FOMO thinking, not just because this is the only game I have played, and have done since beta days. So why am I 'enjoying'? It's difficult to explain fully, perhaps anticpation of better things to follow? That I really want to support the game, and value the time and effort the entire team behind TESO and their input, no matter how small? (I am still in awe of how we can play an MMO) The reward for my effort so far has been the drop of the Coldharbour home on day 2 of the event. (Admitedly I didn't notice I'd acquired the home until much later) The Golden Pursuits were completed easily, I have so many pets and mounts already, so an extra one didn't really matter too much. To someone who hasn't, I hope the rewards are appreciated. ON the downside, of course the daily grind of collecting QM supplies, I try to off set the time spent on them slightly, by using a number of alt chars to do them on. And like today, just hand one in on a char already completed for speed essentially. I'm not too sure if I have effectively expressed my own opinion here. It is what it is, we aren't forced to do anything and as many have alluded to, chose their own path forward.
Thinking of the future of our game, long may it continue.
I'll leave you with the monologue given by Roy Batty, Nexus-6 replicant. It crossed my mind whilst reading many of the forum posts about the event earlier.

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.

Cheerio!

shadyjane62 · October 15

No, I'm not enjoying it!

Dock01 wrote: »

They’re intentionally making players who didn’t buy Solstice suffer, and it’s honestly demeaning. If it weren’t for one of my friends still playing, I’d have uninstalled without hesitation. It’s obvious they want everyone to buy the overpriced expansion. The problem isn’t the price, it’s the value compared to what they’re asking for. They forgot that competition exists,newer games give far more content and even free expansions. They call it a “choice,” but it’s just punishment for not buying the content pass, with horrible RNG and super random spawn rates. The Soul Reaper thing is just one example out of many.

All the good parts are locked behind Solstice. I promised myself I wouldn’t spend another dime after getting screwed by the deluxe edition that didn’t include “everything from previous chapters” like it claimed. The smaller DLCs are still sold separately. It’s $80, and other new games with better graphics,animation , ui , story , and all actually give everything for that price. I had to spend another $20 each for the missing stuff, and it left a terrible taste in my mouth. I’m done. I’m not paying double for what I already own. Solstice is full of recycled assets, and it’s not worth touching for the price they’re asking. My friend is really the only reason why i stayed XD so it a blessing and a curse

This guy nailed it. It's all about wringing us dry for money with as little as they could manage to put it. Didn't buy the half baked season pass and will never spend another penny on this game. I was not going to buy this years sub but didn't want to spend my time on inventory management.

But I play so little now it would have been been easy to manage, and I would be a lot happier not having wasted my money.

SolarRune · October 15

Still undecided at this point, what i am not enjoying is seeing ZoS value my efforts less than if I was playing on XBox or PS, if i max out my dailies i will impact the PCEU score significantly less than if i was doing it on either of those other platforms - feels like it's a set up for Xbox or PS to win in the server vs server battle.

code65536 · October 15

Yes, I'm enjoying it!

As someone who generally hates events, I like this event.

First, it helps to tune out the marketing noise.

ZOS: Once in a lifetime event! Be a part of history!
Me: *nods and smiles*

From having tested phase 1 on PTS, I knew that it was just fetch quests plus a standard daily incursion quest. Because this has the "glorious" box system, I knew that all the good rewards will come from that single daily box. And because of the time frames involved (you can't start the last phase until U48 has hit console), I knew that this would be a long event, not the usual 2-week affair, which means slow and steady.

So, I get my 3 daily golden boxes, which takes like 15 minutes, and then carry on as if there wasn't an event. Which, for someone who doesn't like events, is perfect!

I read in this thread people saying that they're grinding multiple quests on multiple toons and that the rewards suck. Well, yea, I can see how doing that would make someone hate this event really quick. Don't do that. The reward-to-time ratio is actually really good... if you just get the golden boxes and call it a day.

The other common complaint that I hear is about having to compete with other players for kills and loot, and, yea, they should've learned by now that this can cause problems. But I've been around the game long enough that my very first thought when I saw "kill undead" was, "I wonder if the zombies in the first room of normal Crypt of Hearts 1 will work?" (yes) On normal, things die as easily as they do in the overland, so it's easy to do solo, it's your own private instance with no other players to get in the way.

So I'll do a single event "writ", pick up the quests for siege camp, vitrified souls, and a kill-and-collect quest. I'll do the siege camp, and if I complete vitrified from doing the camp, then I'm done (since vitrified shares the same golden coffer as kill-and-collect), and if I'm not done, then I'll do the kill-and-collect in a private normal dungeon instance. Literally takes less than 15 minutes per server.

Kendaric · October 15

No, I'm not enjoying it!

Ulvich wrote: »

I feel like I am farming anchors in Alik'r.

Farming anchors in Alik'r would be more fun... and I avoid doing that due to how boring it is.

Azphel · October 15

No, I'm not enjoying it!

I didn't buy the season pass so I've only done the base-game quests. "Compete with other players to farm x items from mobs" is outdated quest design. This event feels like a cut dlc prologue and its dailies.