Azureblight nerf needed

Tcholl

Azureblight is VERY popular on PvP now (it has been popular in PvE for a while).

The set is OP for sure, there is no question about it. It is very easy to get multiple pops even with a very small group and then its almost insta kill.

I have to say that is a fun set though and I have been using too.

Many players using the set together still feels like an exploit imo.

Aggrovious

Here is a solution. Nerf groups. Don't allow players to group in Cyrodiil. Then you will naturally be further apart. Nerf complete.

Antrox41

Aggrovious wrote: »

Here is a solution. Nerf groups. Don't allow players to group in Cyrodiil. Then you will naturally be further apart. Nerf complete.

Nice troll.

Aggrovious

Antrox41 wrote: »

Aggrovious wrote: »

Here is a solution. Nerf groups. Don't allow players to group in Cyrodiil. Then you will naturally be further apart. Nerf complete.

Nice troll.

Good idea! Have a 6mil health troll guard the keeps to require players to parse also.

Antrox41

Aggrovious wrote: »

Antrox41 wrote: »

Aggrovious wrote: »

Here is a solution. Nerf groups. Don't allow players to group in Cyrodiil. Then you will naturally be further apart. Nerf complete.

Nice troll.

Good idea! Have a 6mil health troll guard the keeps to require players to parse also.

Low key I wouldnt be opposed to a larger health pooled guards. They are big joke tbh. 1mil at least

Aggrovious

Antrox41 wrote: »

Aggrovious wrote: »

Antrox41 wrote: »

Aggrovious wrote: »

Here is a solution. Nerf groups. Don't allow players to group in Cyrodiil. Then you will naturally be further apart. Nerf complete.

Nice troll.

Good idea! Have a 6mil health troll guard the keeps to require players to parse also.

Low key I wouldnt be opposed to a larger health pooled guards. They are big joke tbh. 1mil at least

what good are the guards if they don't puncture your enemies?

Antrox41

Aggrovious wrote: »

Antrox41 wrote: »

Aggrovious wrote: »

Antrox41 wrote: »

Aggrovious wrote: »

Here is a solution. Nerf groups. Don't allow players to group in Cyrodiil. Then you will naturally be further apart. Nerf complete.

Nice troll.

Good idea! Have a 6mil health troll guard the keeps to require players to parse also.

Low key I wouldnt be opposed to a larger health pooled guards. They are big joke tbh. 1mil at least

what good are the guards if they don't puncture your enemies?

Dont they all puncture lmao? At least the ones S&B

Joy_Division

Antrox41 wrote: »

Aggrovious wrote: »

Antrox41 wrote: »

Aggrovious wrote: »

Antrox41 wrote: »

Aggrovious wrote: »

Here is a solution. Nerf groups. Don't allow players to group in Cyrodiil. Then you will naturally be further apart. Nerf complete.

Nice troll.

Good idea! Have a 6mil health troll guard the keeps to require players to parse also.

Low key I wouldnt be opposed to a larger health pooled guards. They are big joke tbh. 1mil at least

what good are the guards if they don't puncture your enemies?

Dont they all puncture lmao? At least the ones S&B

They do! They're also pretty good at communicating. "To the side!" "I need healing!" The mages are on point with their Negates. I'll give them that.

deadpool3431

Doesn't need a nerf. Ball groups should not exist. You are what is wrong with Cyrodiil.

CameraBeardThePirate

deadpool3431 wrote: »

Doesn't need a nerf. Ball groups should not exist. You are what is wrong with Cyrodiil.

As countless others have pointed out, this isn't a ballgroup thing. Azureblight is the best set against any group size larger than 3. That's the problem. Yes, there should be sets good against ballgroups, but Azureblight's scaling should be changed so that it isn't literally the best option for any PvP outside of Duels.

xylena_lazarow

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

As countless others have pointed out, this isn't a ballgroup thing. Azureblight is the best set against any group size larger than 3.

Does literal nothing to a mobile 4 person. Yeah it dunks on groups that do nothing but stack and eat dps to the face, exactly as it should, the more game mechanics that punish braindead face tank attempts, the better.

CameraBeardThePirate

xylena_lazarow wrote: »

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

As countless others have pointed out, this isn't a ballgroup thing. Azureblight is the best set against any group size larger than 3.

Does literal nothing to a mobile 4 person. Yeah it dunks on groups that do nothing but stack and eat dps to the face, exactly as it should, the more game mechanics that punish braindead face tank attempts, the better.

Exactly! It's not like there are tons of skills, sets, and ultimates that can force the enemy to move, get slowed, or group up in various ways! Oh wait...

You do realize if you are a group of four fighting a group of 4 that you are forced to stay together right?

Any 4man that fights a group that immediately splits up will just focus down one person at a time.

CameraBeardThePirate

All the people saying Azureblight is trash against 4 man groups are in for a rude awakening when the 2 team BGs drop, that's all I'm saying.

TechMaybeHic

I don't think many people care even if it is good in BGs. Ball groups don't like it, then more love it

ForumSavant

TechMaybeHic wrote: »

I don't think many people care even if it is good in BGs. Ball groups don't like it, then more love it

It's all I see in BGs and I would love for the base amount or early scaling to get reduced so I can play against other sets in higher MMR. It does too much damage.

kookie

Some people are definitely better than others at pulling off this set, this one guy is the best though, ONE GUY.

Miracle19

Azureblight is pretty balanced actually

dinokstrunz

justice 4 azureblight!
ZoS just can't even beat their "no fun allowed" allegations. PvP & PvE will forever remain the same & boring. Really weak change.

kookie

YES!!!
Thank you ZOS!!

TechMaybeHic

Feels like they have said what play style they want here. GL with that

BahometZ

Phew, ball groups are back baby.

Antrox41

deadpool3431 wrote: »

Doesn't need a nerf. Ball groups should not exist. You are what is wrong with Cyrodiil.

Tell me you're a Solo zergling or 1vXer without telling me you are one.

Iriidius

Antrox41 wrote: »

deadpool3431 wrote: »

Doesn't need a nerf. Ball groups should not exist. You are what is wrong with Cyrodiil.

Tell me you're a Solo zergling or 1vXer without telling me you are one.

Tell me you are ballgroupler without telling me you are one.

What is wrong with beeing Solo?
Not everyone has an always available group.
You do not start the game in a group, do usually not login as part of a group, not always find a group (getting no response to lfg) and ESO still wants to keep you as part of his daily active playerbase and do PvP Endeavours/Events.

Ballgroups are not only hated by soloplayers but also PuGs, zergguilds, smallscales and actually almost everyone not in a ballgroup.

Theignson

ZOS once again listens to the crying ball groups, that they are so vulnerable and underpowered--

while ZOS continues to ignore the abused set Rush of Agony...because it benefits ball groups...we can't take that away...

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

Theignson wrote: »

ZOS once again listens to the crying ball groups, that they are so vulnerable and underpowered--

while ZOS continues to ignore the abused set Rush of Agony...because it benefits ball groups...we can't take that away...

Personally I don't think ZOS is 'listening' to ball groups over other players (at least historically this definitely wasn't true as they did the complete opposite of what a couple of us told them in a few situations).

I think it's the case that they likely have some auto logging which is comparing sets vs damage output. I would imagine this is likely a change in response to PVE rather than PVP and coming up to the next chapter where some 'new BIS' is needed to sell it.

Also most of the changes made to pvp sets recently have been direct results of 'stream team' input. e.g. Elf bane, Heavy attack nerf etc.

Durham

Antrox41 wrote: »

I find it funny how people think you can just heal through this set.

You can't, its not possible. When you have 4, 8 or 12 man groups spamming acid spray at your group and constantly spamming dots ticking the burst practically every second (because the stacking mechanic is just not even a thing at the point). No amount of healing will ever be able to heal through that. I've seen ticks in 120k range, each burst on you can range anywhere from 10-25k damage and thats pretty much every other second (assuming you are not clumped up). So for anyone saying you can out heal this set please enlighten me with your cosmic wisdom.

But ok, "What about not stacking?"
Nope, not even possible either. You try having 5-8 people spamming dots on you procing it constantly you will still be taking unheard of amounts of damage, plus lets not even begin to get into the positioning because if your group is spread apart HoTs does jack.

And lastly, no blocking does nothing but instantly drain your resources from 2 procs.

I will end it with saying that; yes this set IS broken and most certainly abused. Is it a counter to ball groups? Yes sure it is. Does that make this ok and balanced? No it does not, it allows for people to turn their brains off and spam acid spray on groups. They are rewarded for basically doing nothing. The cross stacking is absolutely disgusting, and should not even be a thing on this set, thats poor balance and having something like that you cannot even counter is just not ok. This set is far worse then when Plaguebreak was introduced imo.

SPREAD OUT !!!!!!! That is how you counter it!!! I think ball group are absurd and just stupid super stale play ... PULL BOMB PULL BOMB PULL BOMB thats what you do all night!! A good ball group has no counter in the game not even a faction stack!

Duke_Falcon

The reasons for this set being nerfed are the exact same reasons Vicious Death and Plaguebreak should be nerfed. I don't see a reason to nerf the one without nerfing the others. When your in a 12 man group the proc sets for all these are easy to attain. I'd say don't nerf the set unless you also nerf the others.