PVPers who kill Questers

jtm1018 · February 22

Kill the questor as many times as they see them. All people on the other factions are fair game.

Stay out of cry'o'dill if you dont want to be pk'd.

Its as easy as that.

This is the way.

Hapexamendios · February 22

There are other campaigns and I have characters in all alliances. Not really an issue for me.

OsUfi · February 22

Kill the person doing the quest, but if they see them again, let them pass and leave them be

Monte_Cristo wrote: »

4th option: It's part of the game, but it is rather unsporting.

My answer too.

I'm also going to say I do not take note of names, the only people I do remember are people who kill me a lot, or people on my side on I see on the kill feed a lot. Everyone else is just on the other faction.

If I do kill you a lot while questing, especially in IC, Greyhost, or Ravenwatch, I'm going to have assumed you were an enemy player, doing enemy player things, and attacked because you're the enemy. Not because you're questing. I'll have barely taken any note of what you're doing.

Araneae6537 · February 22

I collected some of the final delve Skyshards I needed in Cyrodiil in an impromptu “group” with two other players I came across, all of us from different alliances! We all kept an eye out for each other and took turns engaging enemies or were careful to use abilities with minimal aoe. It was fun!

Ugrak · February 22

Kill the questor as many times as they see them. All people on the other factions are fair game.

The game has two PVP areas. If you go there, be prepared for PVP. Anything else is unreasonable.

The PVP zone quests are mainly there to facilitate encounters between players.

That said, I don't get a kick out of hunting questers and fishers, so will tend to leave them alone, and have at times assisted opposing faction players with PVE objectives while being mindful about friendly fire.

FlopsyPrince · February 22

Monte_Cristo wrote: »

4th option: It's part of the game, but it is rather unsporting.

The worst part about it is that some seem to get much satisfaction from this behavior AND that keeps people from doing quests in IC many times. I quit last time around after getting ganked 5 or 6 times in a row on the "burn the catapults" one.

It surely made the gankers day, but ruined it for me. They were not doing anything else but hiding and ganking.

FlopsyPrince · February 22

DreamyLu wrote: »

If PvE players would go quest in version "no CP" of PvP, the problem would be rare. That's what I do. The map is mostly empty. I can wander freely nearly everywhere and never encounter anyone, neither allies nor enemies.

When I was still going to standard PvP so that it was populated, when I saw an enemy player, I was waving at him/her and in most cases, he was waving back and let me in peace. A few times I got attacked, but I didn't fight back, and the player then stopped before I died and let me go.

So all in all, I have a rather good experience of questing and/or picking up treasures in Cyrodiil. It makes me realize that maybe I have just been very lucky up to now.

I often just stand there, but others have never let me go that I can recall.

FlopsyPrince · February 22

Baccarooda wrote: »

I love beating questers to death, i will take their sweet ap all day!! Happy mayhem one and all!!

And you help ensure you have fewer people to play against!

Oznog666 · February 22

Kill the questor as many times as they see them. All people on the other factions are fair game.

I'm not a great PVPer but, yes, it's PVP area so what?

TempPlayer · February 22

I'm a PvE, so I hate getting killed by PvPer. But it is a PvP zone so it is fair game. The only request I have is please wait till player finish talking to quest giver before the shanking.

RetPing · February 22

Leave them alone. Under no circumstances should a PVP player kill someone just doing a quest.

People that do a lot of PvP in my experience usualy do not attack questers.
Usually they are attacked by PvErs that once in a while come in PvP zones

Of course there is some exception of pvpers that are to bad at pvp, since they cant fight another pvper they attack questers to feel that they are good.

AnduinTryggva · February 22

Araneae6537 wrote: »

While I believe it is poor sportsmanship to intentionally attack questers, the third option is really not fair as there are many instances in which a player cannot know the other’s intentions, both in Cyrodiil and Imperial City, and making the wrong split-second decision could mean a loss for yourself or your side.

When PVPing, I do try to avoid attacking people questing, collecting Skyshards, etc. and have had many peaceful encounters in both Cyrodiil and Imperial City. That said, I accept that these are PVP zones and am not upset when I am killed while there on PVE errands, but would go elsewhere or do another activity altogether if it became clear there were people deliberately seeking cheap kills in the area.

I've suggested once that players going in for the quests only can activate something (e.g. praying to a shrine) prior to entering that war zone that makes them invulnerable to player attacks but only lets them do quest stuff. With the aquired blessing however comes a curse: They don't get tel'vars, they cannot attack other players and I would even go so far to say that that blessing does not allow to do the district bosses in imperial city. I got badly flamed for that suggestion.

WitchyKiki · February 22

Leave them alone. Under no circumstances should a PVP player kill someone just doing a quest.

Sometimes I'm that quester.

Parrot1986 · February 22

Leave them alone. Under no circumstances should a PVP player kill someone just doing a quest.

colossalvoids wrote: »

Kill the questor as many times as they see them. All people on the other factions are fair game.

Personally don't care about quest spots, almost never around those but occasional Bruma. If someone starts on me that's fair, myself engage first only on flags there.

Yes but you’re a monster so that makes sense

thorwyn · February 22

Aaaah...
One of the very few remaining constants in an otherwise overly complex world: the annual debate about questers in pvp zones.

FeedbackOnly · February 22

♥️ Remember them for the undaunted event

shadyjane62 · February 22

Leave them alone. Under no circumstances should a PVP player kill someone just doing a quest.

Every year we lose more people who will never pvp again because of the griefing. People we will never get back. I personally never do dungeons because of bad experience with other people. So the game loses a healer.

Pvp needs player participation, I don't see the point in ruining some pver's experience.

karthrag_inak · February 22

Kill the questor as many times as they see them. All people on the other factions are fair game.

You are asking a lot of khajiit. It is hard enough for him to remember what he is doing himself when he is in cyrodiil, let alone to decipher what someone else is doing.

How does one recognize someone else is just doing a quest? Is there a special dance, or emote or some such?

Danikat · February 22

Monte_Cristo wrote: »

4th option: It's part of the game, but it is rather unsporting.

This is the option I was looking for.

I won't do it - if I'm in Cyrodiil and I see someone who is obviously just there to do quests I'm not going to attack them, but if I'm there to do quests I expect to be attacked at any time and if it happens (which is surprisingly rare) I just accept it, respawn and carry on.

I do think it's annoying when someone is camping a spot they know they're only going to meet players who are there to do quests - like right beside the door to a house in the middle of nowhere which is not part of an objective but does have a quest NPC inside. But I also know it's because they're so bad at PvP the only way they're ever going to get kills is by waiting for people who can't/won't fight back or run away. I'm not great at PvP but I'm not that bad so when it happens I'm willing to give them a pity kill, but then I go and do something else instead of letting them keep trying.

Silaf · February 22

Leave them alone. Under no circumstances should a PVP player kill someone just doing a quest.

SkaraMinoc wrote: »

Free AP / Tel Var

The difference between an animal and a person is not intelligence but the adesion to highter moral values.

Bjergenen · February 22

Leave them alone. Under no circumstances should a PVP player kill someone just doing a quest.

For all PvE questers, just make this time insufferable for them and build for this occasion heavy tank build. Its even more fun to just waste their time as they try really hard to break through your armor for 15 straight minutes

Neiska · February 22

Not a PVPer here, I dislike PVP. Not just in this game, but pretty much all games. I bare no ill will against PVPers, they are enjoying the content they like. If a game revolves or forces PVP, then it's just not a game for me.

That said, I go by the saying "Know the pool you swim in." If you enter a place that's open PVP, then those are the rules. You being there is more or less consenting to it. If you don't like PVP then don't go to pvp areas, its really that simple. I have never done any of the PVP quests, and if a build lists a skill from the assault tree or something I use something else.

Again, I bare PVPers no ill will. They just enjoy other things, and that's fine. I will cheer from the sidelines but have absolutely no intent on stepping foot into that arena. And while I am not a PVPer, I do feel kind of bad for them as even the few activities they have to themselves seems to be ridden with problems and issues that from an outsiders view, have never been fixed or addressed.

But the other side of the coin, is the thought that if a PVPer does repeatedly stomp someone just questing, they might be pushing someone who might be interested in PVP, into disinterest. This isn't the case for everyone, but some might see it as griefing. And as often as I hear pvpers asking for more players to get into pvp, you can't stomp someone until they like it.

Just my thoughts about it.

TLDR: If you are in a PVP area, then you are open to PVP.

ApoAlaia · February 22

Monte_Cristo wrote: »

4th option: It's part of the game, but it is rather unsporting.

This summarizes it quite aptly.

Said that there is room for nuance.

PvP (and more so PvPvE) is set up in such fashion that the players are the entertainment, whether they want to [entertain] or not.

So however unsporting it may seem to for instance camp quest givers (where the AP gains are poor compared to other activities and is mostly done for personal gratification at the expense of third parties) it is still well within the framework that we have been given.

Unless one or more players go out of their way to victimize/harass specific third parties (for instance following them across locations, engagements and campaigns while targeting them exclusively) is all 'within the rules'.

My recommendation for the PvP averse that is in it just for quick tickets is to either use stealth (easily and cheaply geared for with overland sets) or one of those 'max health/permablock' builds that are utterly tedious to take down while being as unengaging as is humanly possible.

LunaFlora · February 22

Leave them alone. Under no circumstances should a PVP player kill someone just doing a quest.

Aurielle wrote: »

Depends.

If it’s IC, everyone gets attacked, no questions asked. PVPers do the quests there too, so it’s usually impossible to tell who’s a PVPer and who’s a PVEer.

Same goes for towns with capture objectives. If you’re running around Bruma, I can’t always tell if you’re just questing there or if you’re going to flip the flags when I leave.

Chorrol? No one gets attacked in Chorrol. If you go to Chorrol to kill questers, you’re a bit of a coward, IMO.

i often go to the non objective towns, but as my character is AD they're way farther away than Vlastarus and Cropsford so not always.

Sadly for cropsford and Vlastarus it isn't actually possible to get quests and finish them without also capturing the flags nearby, because of the guards.

Gray_howling_parrot · February 22

Kill the questor as many times as they see them. All people on the other factions are fair game.

I'm purely a PvE player, but if I enter a PvP zone, I have the complete, 100% understanding that people can kill me whenever and wherever they want as that's the entire point of these zones. If you are questing, you need to have the mentality that this can happen. There's only 2 zones in the entire game where this happens.

Sluggy · February 22

The voting options are too limited and not indicative of the subtle nuance of the situation. So I didn't bother.

But here's my deal for Cyrodiil: I only play DC chars and generally stay away from Cropsford and Vvlastarus unless the situation on the map warrants it. If you're questing in Bruma and not on team blue though all bets are off. You aren't questing at that point you are engaging in the territory wars of Cyrodiil and thus partaking in PvP. Bruma is the home territory of DC so you have no business being there on any other faction as a mere ticket questor.

As for IC, I can pretty much tell just by looking at what you do in the first two seconds if you are there to do a quest or there to fight. If you're questing I'll leave you alone as long as you don't attack me or get in my way or inhibit my ability to go about my business whether that be pvping or doing quests of my own.

Veryamedliel · February 22

It's a biased and rather pointless poll in my opinion.

There's no way for people to smell why someone's in the area. So of course they consider anyone not in their alliance a potential challenge. You're on a PvP map, what do you expect to happen? And do you really thing that people will remember the name of the player they killed? Why should they unless said person has the 'former emperor' title above their heads? It's just another kill, nothing more.

wazzz56 · February 22

If I can tell somebody is questing I will certainly leave them be...if they are a low cp/lowbie toon I am not attacking them anyway....I will never attack somebody fishing....that being said, if you go into a pvp area (even to do PVE) you should expect that you will get to experience pvp and should be prepared for that.

ShadowPaladin · February 22

I experienced something really amazing two days ago regarding questing/doing something none-pvp in a pvp-zone.

What was it?

I was doing the quests in IC as preparation for the upcoming event. As always, if someone sees someone else in IC that person will get killed. Some even - as always - farmed some quest spots

. BUT! After I was finished with the quests, I decided to do some fishing, since I am still missing the fishes from IC for the achievement. Now guess what happened?! I WAS NOT KILLED !!! Hordes of Reds and Blues were fightning near me, but not one of them attacked me. All passed by and left me alone. One even joined me fishing

. You can imagine how surprised I was

.

That was for me 100% fairplay. They saw someone doing nothing but fishing, posing no threat, perhaps even not being able to play pvp against them (1 vs. 12) and left him alone. Instead of killing him over and over and over ... and over again, getting nothing in return (no Telvar, nearly no AP and extremly little satisfaction).

Xandreia_ · February 22

Kill the questor as many times as they see them. All people on the other factions are fair game.

its pvp, if people aren't willing to pvp in the only event we have then thats on them, suck it up or wait for the next pve event