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Merge the servers to stop the games player population dying
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MISTFORMBZZZ✭✭✭✭✭katanagirl1 wrote: »Twohothardware wrote: »MISTFORMBZZZ wrote: »Twohothardware wrote: »Twohothardware wrote: »As for Cyrodiil, call me cynical, but I think that the main problem with Cyrodiil campaign population is Cyrodiil, not server population. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him go into Cyrodiil.
Having 100 horses instead of 50 won't change that.
There's a percentage of players on every platform playing in at least the main Cyrodiil campaign. From what I've seen all three platforms have around 3 bars on each Alliance during prime time for the one main Campaign. Crossplay between consoles or Crossplay between consoles and PC is going to combine all of those players that are already currently playing in Cyrodiil and that is going to double or triple PvP numbers regardless if Cyrodiil is popular right now.
The other thing to think about is that in a crossplay environment, the "main Cyrodiil campaign" would simply be locked (max pop) and they would have to open other campaigns if they wanted more people to play concurrently. Cyrodiil caps would not change under crossplay, as the caps are there to limit the number of people in the campaign.
They were just running a Cyrodiil stress test to see if they could raise the pop caps, but even if they stay the same, there are two other 30-day campaigns that are empty right now. Back in the day, we used to have two full campaigns running, and now we only have one during prime time.
Also, the point of getting more players in Cyrodiil is to keep the main campaign locked for longer than just a few hours at night. At this moment in the afternoon on PlayStation NA, we have Ebonheart with 3 bars, AD with 2, and DC with only 1. That lets EP run up a big score all day until prime time, when the numbers even out.
if they merged the servers all campaigns would be full probably again
They would likely be full. The next question is how long are you willing to wait to get into one of them so they remain that way?
They're fully capable of opening more Campaigns when the active player count requires it. They do this already during the Whitestrake's Mayhem event.
Players still wait for their home campaign for hours during the PvP event and the new campaigns sit empty.
thats not true. While mayhem queue for GH and go blackreach till queue pops. We doing this even as group. Nobody is forced to sit there and wait.
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✭✭✭✭MISTFORMBZZZ wrote: »katanagirl1 wrote: »Twohothardware wrote: »MISTFORMBZZZ wrote: »Twohothardware wrote: »Twohothardware wrote: »As for Cyrodiil, call me cynical, but I think that the main problem with Cyrodiil campaign population is Cyrodiil, not server population. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him go into Cyrodiil. Having 100 horses instead of 50 won't change that.
There's a percentage of players on every platform playing in at least the main Cyrodiil campaign. From what I've seen all three platforms have around 3 bars on each Alliance during prime time for the one main Campaign. Crossplay between consoles or Crossplay between consoles and PC is going to combine all of those players that are already currently playing in Cyrodiil and that is going to double or triple PvP numbers regardless if Cyrodiil is popular right now.
The other thing to think about is that in a crossplay environment, the "main Cyrodiil campaign" would simply be locked (max pop) and they would have to open other campaigns if they wanted more people to play concurrently. Cyrodiil caps would not change under crossplay, as the caps are there to limit the number of people in the campaign.
They were just running a Cyrodiil stress test to see if they could raise the pop caps, but even if they stay the same, there are two other 30-day campaigns that are empty right now. Back in the day, we used to have two full campaigns running, and now we only have one during prime time.
Also, the point of getting more players in Cyrodiil is to keep the main campaign locked for longer than just a few hours at night. At this moment in the afternoon on PlayStation NA, we have Ebonheart with 3 bars, AD with 2, and DC with only 1. That lets EP run up a big score all day until prime time, when the numbers even out.
if they merged the servers all campaigns would be full probably again
They would likely be full. The next question is how long are you willing to wait to get into one of them so they remain that way?
They're fully capable of opening more Campaigns when the active player count requires it. They do this already during the Whitestrake's Mayhem event.
Players still wait for their home campaign for hours during the PvP event and the new campaigns sit empty.
thats not true. While mayhem queue for GH and go blackreach till queue pops. We doing this even as group. Nobody is forced to sit there and wait.
Nobody is forced to wait, but many like me want to play on our home campaign with the other players we know and increase our rank on the leaderboards.
So yes, I do get on early in the morning during the event and wait in the queue.
EDIT: wait I just reread this. How can you queue for Gray Host and then Blackreach at the same time?
Edited by katanagirl1 on December 18, 2023 5:43AMKhajiit Stamblade main
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joergino✭✭✭✭✭katanagirl1 wrote: »EDIT: wait I just reread this. How can you queue for Gray Host and then Blackreach at the same time?
You can queue for as many camapaigns as you like. If you're in one campaign and the queue for another one allows you to enter, you just answer the promt and move over to the new campaign.3 -
MISTFORMBZZZ✭✭✭✭✭katanagirl1 wrote: »MISTFORMBZZZ wrote: »katanagirl1 wrote: »Twohothardware wrote: »MISTFORMBZZZ wrote: »Twohothardware wrote: »Twohothardware wrote: »As for Cyrodiil, call me cynical, but I think that the main problem with Cyrodiil campaign population is Cyrodiil, not server population. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him go into Cyrodiil. Having 100 horses instead of 50 won't change that.
There's a percentage of players on every platform playing in at least the main Cyrodiil campaign. From what I've seen all three platforms have around 3 bars on each Alliance during prime time for the one main Campaign. Crossplay between consoles or Crossplay between consoles and PC is going to combine all of those players that are already currently playing in Cyrodiil and that is going to double or triple PvP numbers regardless if Cyrodiil is popular right now.
The other thing to think about is that in a crossplay environment, the "main Cyrodiil campaign" would simply be locked (max pop) and they would have to open other campaigns if they wanted more people to play concurrently. Cyrodiil caps would not change under crossplay, as the caps are there to limit the number of people in the campaign.
They were just running a Cyrodiil stress test to see if they could raise the pop caps, but even if they stay the same, there are two other 30-day campaigns that are empty right now. Back in the day, we used to have two full campaigns running, and now we only have one during prime time.
Also, the point of getting more players in Cyrodiil is to keep the main campaign locked for longer than just a few hours at night. At this moment in the afternoon on PlayStation NA, we have Ebonheart with 3 bars, AD with 2, and DC with only 1. That lets EP run up a big score all day until prime time, when the numbers even out.
if they merged the servers all campaigns would be full probably again
They would likely be full. The next question is how long are you willing to wait to get into one of them so they remain that way?
They're fully capable of opening more Campaigns when the active player count requires it. They do this already during the Whitestrake's Mayhem event.
Players still wait for their home campaign for hours during the PvP event and the new campaigns sit empty.
thats not true. While mayhem queue for GH and go blackreach till queue pops. We doing this even as group. Nobody is forced to sit there and wait.
Nobody is forced to wait, but many like me want to play on our home campaign with the other players we know and increase our rank on the leaderboards.
So yes, I do get on early in the morning during the event and wait in the queue.
EDIT: wait I just reread this. How can you queue for Gray Host and then Blackreach at the same time?
we played on Blackreach during mym, traveled to ic - went into a queue for gh and after that traveling back to br.
I mean outside mym PS EU is far away from a queue now but yeahhh0 -
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✭MISTFORMBZZZ wrote: »The population on consoles are drastical low.
You cant find many trials, you cant find many group activities, you go in a zone and with luck there are 2-3 people somehow, you have less people online in the trading guilds and less people at the hot spots in the game.
Also in pvp the population also decreased a lot & noticeable.
At prime time during the week its max 2 bars each, we used to have a queue 2 years ago and now its rare we have 3 bars each 😂
You cant stop people from playing other games but now many people are stopping to play cuz there is not enough activity in this game anymore.
If you have to wait hours for a group finder, cant do the trial you want or dont find action in pvp, whats the point in playing this mmo?
My suggestion :
Merge the PS EU and PS NA server or merge the PS EU and XBox EU and the PS NA and Xbox NA server to avoid the game dying.
Yes the trading markets would probs crash but lets be honest wouldnt that be exciting in some way? It would be a bigger player base and there would be life in the game, it would be a healthy change overall!
I get cross play with PC might makes no sense cuz of their loads of addons etc but betwen consoles it should be absolutely a thing.
Zos gave us the group finder but lets be honest it doesnt really help.
The benefits of crossplay overhelm overall and zos should make this technical possible, better soon then later
Somehow I beg to differ.
The two hardware platforms Xbox & PS are vastly different and after many years have unique in-game coding solutions that would not easily be translated cross-platform.
Then we have the legal problem of licensing, ie how would the proprietors of the competing hardware platforms react to "their" customers playing on a competitors platform, invalidating their very own hardware lock-in?
N.B. (Nota Bene) I'm not at all against the concept of crossplay, just pointing out what I perceive as the the potential pitfalls.0 -
katanagirl1✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭katanagirl1 wrote: »EDIT: wait I just reread this. How can you queue for Gray Host and then Blackreach at the same time?
You can queue for as many camapaigns as you like. If you're in one campaign and the queue for another one allows you to enter, you just answer the promt and move over to the new campaign.
Wow I never knew that, I just assumed you could only be in one queue at a time.
I’ll try to remember that for the next PvP event. I can still get AP while waiting for Gray Host and not be bored.
Thanks
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MISTFORMBZZZ✭✭✭✭✭MISTFORMBZZZ wrote: »The population on consoles are drastical low.
You cant find many trials, you cant find many group activities, you go in a zone and with luck there are 2-3 people somehow, you have less people online in the trading guilds and less people at the hot spots in the game.
Also in pvp the population also decreased a lot & noticeable.
At prime time during the week its max 2 bars each, we used to have a queue 2 years ago and now its rare we have 3 bars each 😂
You cant stop people from playing other games but now many people are stopping to play cuz there is not enough activity in this game anymore.
If you have to wait hours for a group finder, cant do the trial you want or dont find action in pvp, whats the point in playing this mmo?
My suggestion :
Merge the PS EU and PS NA server or merge the PS EU and XBox EU and the PS NA and Xbox NA server to avoid the game dying.
Yes the trading markets would probs crash but lets be honest wouldnt that be exciting in some way? It would be a bigger player base and there would be life in the game, it would be a healthy change overall!
I get cross play with PC might makes no sense cuz of their loads of addons etc but betwen consoles it should be absolutely a thing.
Zos gave us the group finder but lets be honest it doesnt really help.
The benefits of crossplay overhelm overall and zos should make this technical possible, better soon then later
Somehow I beg to differ.
The two hardware platforms Xbox & PS are vastly different and after many years have unique in-game coding solutions that would not easily be translated cross-platform.
Then we have the legal problem of licensing, ie how would the proprietors of the competing hardware platforms react to "their" customers playing on a competitors platform, invalidating their very own hardware lock-in?
N.B. (Nota Bene) I'm not at all against the concept of crossplay, just pointing out what I perceive as the the potential pitfalls.
I agree there is things to sort but this is not on us as players.1 -
MISTFORMBZZZ✭✭✭✭✭Again the game feels empty af on PS EU.
Are there any plans for crossplay for example with Xbox EU?
I have friends there saying its really empty overall there aswell.
More and more people quitting the game / planning to go to new upcoming MMO's and i would like to know if Zos is aware of this and plans to keep the game nice and active.1 -
Four_Fingers✭✭✭✭✭
✭And yet 8 months after this thread was created the game is still going strong.
Who would have thought!
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Blood_again✭✭✭✭✭MISTFORMBZZZ wrote: »Again the game feels empty af on PS EU.
Your feelings don't lie to you.
Last time it was Xmas, today it is Summer.
Just let the schoolmates have their summer holidays and the old dudes their summer vacations. They all will be back soon and will run your game just in short three weeks.
Looking forward to seeing you necro this thread again in the end of December 0 -
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✭I don't want the PC-NA+PTS merger to accidentally repeat on a larger scale.PC-EU @maitsukas
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