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ESO & Kaizen: megathread: Based on the other games you know, how would you improve ESO?

  • loveeso
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    Jaustink wrote: »
    I personally would enjoy and think the average player would benefit from/enjoy:

    - Updated textures
    - More choice and role play options within dialogue (racial options, class options, etc)
    - Class based quest lines and cosmetic sets
    - Class based mounts that we earn from said quest lines
    - More content for the PvP folks
    - More content poured into things like dark brotherhood, thieves guild, etc
    - The option to purchase mount training in bulk with gold
    - Unarmed skill line
    - QOL features that are asked for by players
    - More pet options for sorcs, skins for bear ultimate for warden, etc
    - Ability to utilize companions to do our surveys for us :) or to go on missions to retrieve cosmetics, materials, etc

    Oh, and great suggestions by the way! :smile:
    MMOs: ESO (PS & PC), GW2 (😍) & Souls/Elden (😍)
  • harvey07
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    i would absolutely love a real sticky targeting system.....not this: a rodent comes out of no where and takes your cast.
  • hashii
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    I would love the following (not really inspired by other games, but more of personal wishes after experiencing ESO for 5 years)
    • Texture upgrades for the world
    • Different character physical behavior (after seeing one NPC have a certain body language, it's weird seeing other NPCs have the same body language and mannerism. I know this is very small and subtle, but a bit more variation would be awesome.
    • Furnishing recipe sticker book just like item set collections sticker book.
    • More weapons/weapon skill lines (tomes, magic with hands, spears, polearms, polearm + shield, etc)
    • More quests that build on top of previous quests, same applies for side quests. Often times I'm left wondering whatever happened to the person I just helped? Same goes with zone quests. A little bit more elaborate storytelling would be nice.
    • More appealing rewards from achievements/game modes
    • A game mode that I can just jump into solo/with a companion/with 1 friend. Should have good replay value + reward value, but fun to get into for quick action. I'm hoping the Endless Dungeon in Q4 2023 solves this.
    • Animation upgrades for older classes
    • A different "feel" and animation difference between Stamina playstyle versus Magicka playstyle. Unless you're a healer or tank, the DPS theme between Stamina vs Magicka characters mostly feels the same to me. A good distinction with how the gameplay feels with animation differences would be nice. Like my templar dual wielding character mostly feels the same as my templar mage. Just weapon differences.
    • More non-weapon/non-class offensive skill lines that you can obtain.
    • New features/interactivity with companions.
  • svendf
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    Jaustink wrote: »
    “The last great exodus from this game was during Update 35. That is when they tried to substantially alter the game.

    I am not sure if the ESO population has recovered from that.”

    It hasn’t and it’s because while you have all these people on the forums posting their wishes and desires, ZOS goes to left field completely away from what we ask for and are surprised when we don’t like it. The problem is not change, it is the implementation, communication and mentality behind the change ZOS implements.

    If their change was centered around FEEDBACK and what the customer wanted, people wouldn’t have left because they would’ve implemented real change that we asked for.

    I believe you are right. What´s behind it all ? For me it smells like sales have taken over and running things. I can be wrong and hope I am.

    There is alot of talk about other games, where this happens (on YT).

    Sorry OP didn´t mean to run some off topic. Maybe a new discussion would be in place, and see how people feel about it.
    Edited by svendf on August 24, 2023 3:55PM
  • ZOS_Volpe
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  • Displaced_Salad
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    harvey07 wrote: »
    i would absolutely love a real sticky targeting system.....not this: a rodent comes out of no where and takes your cast.

    I fought a WB today, and shot three tiny spiders in front of me hidden in the grass instead of the targeted creature. Small thing that is incredibly infuriating for sure. Actual targeting that works would be just GREAT.
    If it comes with strings, it ain't free. It isn't a gift with purchase; you were overcharged. Companies don't love you; they love money.

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  • vamp_emily
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    I don't play ESO anymore but I have a friend who plays Skyrim. He is very impressed how they implemented AI within the game. I have been told you can have conversations with the NPCs and they don't have the same responses.

    If they don't already have AI in ESO, I think it would make it a better game.

    If you want a friend, get a dog.
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  • loveeso
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    vamp_emily wrote: »
    I don't play ESO anymore but I have a friend who plays Skyrim. He is very impressed how they implemented AI within the game. I have been told you can have conversations with the NPCs and they don't have the same responses.

    If they don't already have AI in ESO, I think it would make it a better game.

    Thanks, would love to see that :smile:
    MMOs: ESO (PS & PC), GW2 (😍) & Souls/Elden (😍)
  • loveeso
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    New old feature: (re)enable the option to send crown-store gifts to your friends.

    Here is an interesting video from well-known and loved Azura which I hope ZOS will watch and finally decide to change their course, otherwise ESO will most likely die:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jBaV_09jSM

    And no, the video is not just about crown store and gifting.

    Edited by loveeso on September 2, 2023 12:35PM
    MMOs: ESO (PS & PC), GW2 (😍) & Souls/Elden (😍)
  • loveeso
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    How to improve ESO? Please ZOS watch this (and no, it's not a video about BG3 even though the title suggest it, not really - it deals with some hard truths about the current state of the gaming industry (including ZOS) and how to heal it (and not be replaced)):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aEQ2E3XSl8

    A very good video, you should definitely watch from start to end before you judge (and skipping the middle doesn't work either :lol:).

    Edited by loveeso on September 2, 2023 12:40PM
    MMOs: ESO (PS & PC), GW2 (😍) & Souls/Elden (😍)
  • loveeso
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    Here, yet another example of how much a game can be improved… by hobbyist. #Skyrim
    Think what a corporation could achieve over the years if they really wanted to improve the game.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuVyqnCtKnM
    MMOs: ESO (PS & PC), GW2 (😍) & Souls/Elden (😍)
  • NettleCarrier
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    I just want world levels (to scale things). There's some other games I play that use this kind of system where everything is scaled to your level but at various points you move up to a higher world level which scales everything (including drops). It would solve the common "vet overland" request as well as fix a lot of problems with the game's difficulty. There's at least major quest storylines I've skipped because it's just dialogue to me. None of the fights have any notable reward or challenge so I just skip them. I could remove my own gear to make the fight take longer, but the reward is unchanged so what's the point?
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  • GooGa592
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    Less focus on crown store and more focus on in game rewards and achievements, bug fixes and revive the PvP scene.
  • loveeso
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    I just want world levels (to scale things). There's some other games I play that use this kind of system where everything is scaled to your level but at various points you move up to a higher world level which scales everything (including drops). It would solve the common "vet overland" request as well as fix a lot of problems with the game's difficulty. There's at least major quest storylines I've skipped because it's just dialogue to me. None of the fights have any notable reward or challenge so I just skip them. I could remove my own gear to make the fight take longer, but the reward is unchanged so what's the point?

    Having that would be awesome. I usually did naked and firsts plus just one or two skills when following the story overland (incl. delves & public dungeons) - otherwise it's what you said: so easy that it is just boring... even without gear and weapons it's still too easy
    MMOs: ESO (PS & PC), GW2 (😍) & Souls/Elden (😍)
  • loveeso
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    GooGa592 wrote: »
    Less focus on crown store and more focus on in game rewards and achievements, bug fixes and revive the PvP scene.

    indeed... and so many of us have been requesting that for years
    MMOs: ESO (PS & PC), GW2 (😍) & Souls/Elden (😍)
  • loveeso
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    Update 40 lists very nice improvements to the game, including some requested in this thread :smile: so check out the news on the official web site and keep sharing your ideas!
    I am so happy that ZOS didn’t listen to the naysayers in this and other threads who claimed that the game was perfect as it was and didn’t need any new features or improvements (or that they were impossible) :smile:!
    Update 40 seems like a good first step. Now we hope for more :smiley:! Keep your suggestions coming, Everyone!
    Edited by loveeso on September 15, 2023 1:38PM
    MMOs: ESO (PS & PC), GW2 (😍) & Souls/Elden (😍)
  • loveeso
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    First new suggestion for class items (see: Update 40): please turn those into 3-piece sets. We already have too many 5-item sets and, apart from the overpowered DK set, the new 5-piece class sets do not seem worthy enough to make anyone give up any of the existing 5-piece meta sets. Even if they matched the meta sets, for most of us they would not be worthy of time and gold/mats needed to replace the 5-piece sets we currently have.
    Also, the arena sets tied to weapon skill lines are 2-item sets. It stands to reason that class sets tied to class skill lines should also be 2- or 3-item sets. These new sets should ideally either come with a 1-item bonus (like monster sets) or a bigger 2-item bonus. The 3-item bonus should be the special class-relates bonus.
    Having viable 3-item sets which one can combine with a mythic and/or monster/arena sets (and/or having the option to use up to 4 three-item sets at the same time), would revive theory crafting and make the game much more interesting. It would also make ESO content creators happy. It’s a win-win :smiley:
    Edited by loveeso on September 15, 2023 2:06PM
    MMOs: ESO (PS & PC), GW2 (😍) & Souls/Elden (😍)
  • Zastrix
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    kargen27 wrote: »
    Left handed characters.

    Yep, I'm lefthanded URL and this would be really cool for immersion. This would just require the changes to the skeleton movement to be mirrored (not the models themselves).
    110-114k Stage 4 Vamprie Magblade u39
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  • loveeso
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    Re. U40 & Endless Archive:

    1. Please make it possible to skip one or two first arcs. For many of us having to go through such easy content every time when we start a new run is just boring / tiring and will make many of us avoid EA (like many of us avoid vDSA) which would be a shame because it has potential to be fun if you improve it.
    2. Please make it possible to take a break and resume like we can with the vMA quest. Since score in EA is not related to time/speed and thus everyone who wishes can just switch builds (even without addons) while inside without any penalty, it should even allow us to still get onto the leaderboards after we resume.
    3. Please make a separate leaderboard for the player+companion duo as these will otherwise never hit leaderboards (companions cannot compete with players). An easy fix to keep it fair: Please permanently flag the duo as player+player if the group contained two players at any moment in the run. Otherwise, keep it player+companion.
    Edited by loveeso on September 15, 2023 4:40PM
    MMOs: ESO (PS & PC), GW2 (😍) & Souls/Elden (😍)
  • loveeso
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    Another way to improve EA:

    4. Please keep adding new locations (and, possibly, bosses) so that there is more and more variety and it gets more interesting with every update.
    MMOs: ESO (PS & PC), GW2 (😍) & Souls/Elden (😍)
  • ldzlcs065
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    Here are some QoL improvements that I think ESO can borrow from other successful mmos:

    GW2: Auction House.

    FFXIV: Recruitment Board.

    WoW: Phasing.
  • shadyjane62
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    I would like that High Elf General in AD base to cycle thru all scroll quests. I cannot tell you just how frustrating it is to get a scroll all the way thru enemy territory and no one can get the quest.

  • XSTRONG
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    I can think of a few things thats really annoying about ESO and works just fine in other games.

    1 of them are that console players are always getting chapters and updates 2 weeks after PC.

    Imagine d4 giving the new seasons and stuff 2 weeks later to console players or even the upcoming expansions 2 weeks later for PlayStation and xbox players.

    In my opinion Zos is getting away with this to easy...

    They also have a PTS server before launching new content so they cant blame it on that.
    Edited by XSTRONG on September 16, 2023 4:35PM
  • loveeso
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    loveeso wrote: »
    Another way to improve EA:

    4. Please keep adding new locations (and, possibly, bosses) so that there is more and more variety and it gets more interesting with every update.

    Went through the Endless Archive. It’s definitely a step in the right direction. My suggestions 1-4 (see above) still stand (in particular, the first arc is good and should stay, but players who go for leaderboards should have the option to skip it because it is just too easy (even for solo) and forcing everyone to waste ten or more minutes of our busy lives every single time we want to do an Endless Archive run is tedious and may put some of us off).

    But I have already written about it above so it’s not the reason I’m writing this post. I have yet another suggestion for an improvement that I believe should make EA even more attractive. Please make EA currency exchangeable to other ingame currencies. I’m talking about tel var, AP, and writs. I think one can already get gold. I believe that would make more players interested in going through EA on a regular basis as it would effectively become a great new way of acquiring many different rewards already available in game (e.g. some furniture or PvP sets). In order for this to work, the exchange rate would have to be set at a point which makes sense. E.g. buying 5000 gold for an hour of time spent in EA won’t cut it. EA would need to become a viable way of getting these other currencies in order to increase the player’s engagement. It’s super easy to implement (could even add it before U40 lands on live) and I do believe it is a great idea that would make EA much more attractive to everyone :smile:
    Edited by loveeso on September 19, 2023 1:48PM
    MMOs: ESO (PS & PC), GW2 (😍) & Souls/Elden (😍)
  • Túrin_Vidsmidr
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    Game needs improved character generation with pretty, more detailed models.
    I'm tired of having only a very few settings that look nice and the rest looks like Oblivion memes.

    Sailing boats and ships. For sea fishing, some pve content and daring to dream big, naval battles.
    I'm still disappointed High Isle didn't come with this but with a pointless card game.
    The best techniques are passed on by the survivors.
  • Shihp00
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    everything here looks "2D" compared to newer games. :D
  • Bo0137
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    I strongly believe next year's new system being spellcrafting would bring a lot of life and attract a lot of players to ESO!
    -On my shoulder, Ms. Ahvine
  • loveeso
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    Another improvement: since the widespread use of the so called dark patterns by the gaming industry, like designing mechanisms that induce FOMO, is not only unethical but also damaging to the players' psychological well-being, it would be great if ZOS could please do away with the practice of forcing players to log in every day to receive daily rewards. Especially in case of subscribers, daily rewards should be made available to the customer for each day when they were a subscriber without the need of logging in every day. We pay for those days. We should be able to collect all past rewards when our busy schedules allow as to log in.
    MMOs: ESO (PS & PC), GW2 (😍) & Souls/Elden (😍)
  • spartaxoxo
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    Lord of the Rings Online/Single Player TES Games

    Debuff Slider ala LOTRO and the single player games

    Little radiant quests at taverns that let you go kill 10 bandits or something from barkeeps for minor rewards.


    Perfect World
    Genie as a very minor buff pet, that you can dump you exp into to level. So that you can stay below level 50 if you wanted.

    A journal that lets you pickup daily quests from anywhere. You still need to turn them in the proper zone, but you can pickup and track progress in the journal

  • xclassgaming
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    let me romance mirri zos please
    Give us clannfear mounts!
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